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april flower
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« Reply #375 on: May 15, 2016, 08:54:54 PM »


This movie is like "The Curse of Michael Myers"...when the basic teen/camp killer caper has run dry, let's add all this weird shit and relatives and curses and other fantastic crazy ideas. Much like when a sitcom has run dry, they always add in that extra kid character.
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mnknut22
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« Reply #376 on: May 15, 2016, 09:48:47 PM »

Its more then that if you pay attention and not compare it to the curse which is not even close to what JGTH is.
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april flower
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« Reply #377 on: May 17, 2016, 06:55:39 AM »

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if you pay attention

Here he goes again  Roll Eyes

If you paid attention to the post instead of looking for fault , I was saying that JGTH was not like Hallowwen Curse as a clone movie...I was stating that it's followed the same suit as in coming up with odd fantastical random storylines/plots as a way to "change" from the norm kill teen slash.

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« Reply #378 on: May 17, 2016, 11:27:40 AM »

Here he goes again  Roll Eyes

If you paid attention to the post instead of looking for fault , I was saying that JGTH was not like Hallowwen Curse as a clone movie...I was stating that it's followed the same suit as in coming up with odd fantastical random storylines/plots as a way to "change" from the norm kill teen slash.



Im not looking for fault, its what you kinda said. Im not trying to be a dick but maybe i misinterpreted what you said. So for that, i apologize.
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« Reply #379 on: September 03, 2017, 12:56:35 AM »

All I can say about this movie is that when it came out way back in the day I of course had to wait for it to hid VHS. It didn't come to my local theater and driving to the Big Shitty(City) was kind of out of the options at the time, it was a several hours drive to a town that showed it and I had no way of finding out where it actually played. (it was the EARLY 90's, No Interwebs back then). So of course when I did get to see it I still had my Hard Core Bllinders on and had the pretty typical reaction every one else had. The WTF Is Going On?  WHERE IS JASON! Why does his head look like that? ETC.   So I didn't watch it for a darn long time.  It wasn't until DVD came along that I decided to get em all. Had to be a completionist and get Pt 9 too.  At first I still kind of felt the same way but had mellow'ed on it. It wasn't until I listened to the special features and watched the commentary that I then kind of seen what they were trying to do and I sort of agree'ed with them.   They were just trying to do something different with it ,which IMO F13 Kind of Really Needed.  Sure they totally FUBAR'ed it Up. But I do appreciate the movie more now.  And it does have some pretty kick ass kills, and it has Erin Grey in it.   Big Fan Boy Crush there from back in the day.   Oh Buck Rogers... Jason Pt. 9
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« Reply #380 on: September 08, 2017, 01:24:57 AM »

I'd like to know if they would've done things differently had they known it was going to be the first and last F13 film of the 90s.
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« Reply #381 on: September 08, 2017, 08:34:23 AM »

I'd like to know if they would've done things differently had they known it was going to be the first and last F13 film of the 90s.


Everyone likes to call sean cunningham the creator. But he hated the idea of jason. HATED it..theres a reason him and victor miller are in a lawsuit battle right now and its over royalties for the creation of that character in which victor never got paid for.  When this movie was in the beginning stages. Sean wanted it go to back to family themes and wanted the hockey mask and jason out of the picture. After the movie got bad reviews he started denying this. I talk to adam marcus fairly often on facebook. He was told strictly to get the mask out of the film. A recent interview sean was lashing out on the film and insulting marcus's integrity.

Its funny he denies telling adam that..because you know a 23 year old at the time was gonna get complete creative control (sarcasm) as he (sean) was taking the series back... dudes a hypocrite and a douchebag. He helped sabotage this film (although in honesty one of my favorites in the series) and helped sabotage jason X. Hes a basket case who wants to take credit for everything then once its not given a fair review blames it on others.  New line rejected the story and forced adam and sean to insert jason BACK into the story line. Which is funny because theres a stupid fucking youtube video called "How new line destroyed the friday the 13th series". It wasnt new line.. it was SEAN CUNNINGHAM WHO DID.
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« Reply #382 on: September 08, 2017, 03:41:50 PM »

The time to phase Jason out of the story would've been the early-mid 80s. I don't think it would've worked then either and it would've required an amazing film to get the audience to go along with it.

By the 90s, there was no reason to get rid of Jason. Jason IS F13. If they wanted to make a movie without Jason, don't create a F13 film.
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« Reply #383 on: September 09, 2017, 02:40:37 AM »

The time to phase Jason out of the story would've been the early-mid 80s. I don't think it would've worked then either and it would've required an amazing film to get the audience to go along with it.

By the 90s, there was no reason to get rid of Jason. Jason IS F13. If they wanted to make a movie without Jason, don't create a F13 film.

Isn't that what they tried with pt 5?

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« Reply #384 on: September 10, 2017, 02:26:18 AM »

A Jason impersonator and the promo revolves around Jason's mask?

I don't call that phasing Jason out of the story.


The only film to truly attempt such a thing out of these franchises is Halloween III.
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« Reply #385 on: September 24, 2017, 10:29:12 PM »

But it did  kind of try to bring back the "WhoDunnit" aspect of the first Friday.  Jason Pt. 5
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« Reply #386 on: October 24, 2017, 05:45:37 AM »

Sure it seems very different than the other films, but I kind of like this movie too. Sure it is a better "horror film" than it is a "Friday the 13th film" but there is nothing wrong with that. You have basically nine films in the franchise that do exactly the same thing [I am including the remake with the first eight Paramount films], then you have one film dealing with supernatural possession, one film in space, and one film featuring Freddy.

Jason Goes to Hell told a unique story. It had great gore effects. It also had interesting characters.

That is exactly how I feel about this movie and the others that went outside the box of familiar story telling. I understand why some would not like them, but I would also understand why some would appreciate the departure. You can always drop him back in the woods to chase teenagers. I thought these movies liberated Jason a bit and allowed his legacy to stretch in new directions. But more importantly, these were made when the studio was still invested in Jason and had the mind to be more creative. That will never happen again because these days it takes an act of God to create even a standard cat & mouse story at Crystal Lake.

Not to get off topic, but I will never understand the studio's reluctance. I could be an outside investor who never liked any of these films and easily see as clear as day how they could be profitable as hell when I look at budget compared to demand. Today's generation especially loves seeing horror films and Paramount is letting Jason sit on the sidelines when he could be owning this crowd of kids. The worst part about it is this is a license with generations of built in fans. I guess Paramount doesn't like making money.
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« Reply #387 on: December 11, 2017, 12:22:55 AM »

That is exactly how I feel about this movie and the others that went outside the box of familiar story telling. I understand why some would not like them, but I would also understand why some would appreciate the departure. You can always drop him back in the woods to chase teenagers. I thought these movies liberated Jason a bit and allowed his legacy to stretch in new directions. But more importantly, these were made when the studio was still invested in Jason and had the mind to be more creative. That will never happen again because these days it takes an act of God to create even a standard cat & mouse story at Crystal Lake.

Not to get off topic, but I will never understand the studio's reluctance. I could be an outside investor who never liked any of these films and easily see as clear as day how they could be profitable as hell when I look at budget compared to demand. Today's generation especially loves seeing horror films and Paramount is letting Jason sit on the sidelines when he could be owning this crowd of kids. The worst part about it is this is a license with generations of built in fans. I guess Paramount doesn't like making money.

New Jason films in the movie theaters would definitely own this generation if Paramount would actually put movies out. I think the rights went back to Warner for film production.
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