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Title: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 14, 2008, 12:14:06 PM
I can't believe we didn't have one already but here it is


You know the drill


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: shaunford1982 on June 14, 2008, 07:42:43 PM
does anyone else think that at the start of the movie that it might be a copy cat killer that kills alice?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SwanKong on June 14, 2008, 08:21:46 PM
The theories and conjecture about the Alice murder and what lead up to it are tiresome to say the least.  How did Jason find her?,  when did he put the head in the fridge?,  did Jason make the phone call?, who threw the cat through the open window?, did Jason make himself a cup of tea after he shut the water off?, they go on forever.   As far as it being someone else entirely is a new one on me.  I kind of like that theory because it eliminates Jason from the equation and all the dumb theories along with it.  I'll buy it, thank you.     


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 14, 2008, 09:21:29 PM
actally no because when i first saw part 2 it was after i saw part 4 so i know jason was the killer



HUH?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SwanKong on June 14, 2008, 09:27:28 PM
I read it twice Nancy and I still can't decipher what you are saying.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 14, 2008, 09:53:54 PM
I am little drunk tonight so i deleted it lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 14, 2008, 09:55:33 PM
Oh speaking of part 2 i wanted jason to kill Ted so bad he drove me crazy


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Count_Sarge on June 15, 2008, 01:26:13 AM
The theories and conjecture about the Alice murder and what lead up to it are tiresome to say the least.  How did Jason find her?   

Maybe he followed her. ::)

 ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on June 15, 2008, 02:32:01 AM
I hated that Ted didn't die. Jason doesn't kill that many people anyway, the body count is lowest.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Fallen on June 15, 2008, 06:21:02 AM
I loved ted im happy he didnt die =)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Maniac on June 15, 2008, 06:26:15 AM
Best film in the series IMO.

The only thing that saved Ted was he went to the bar with Paul, Ginny and the rest of those who went and instead of going back to camp he went to an after hours bar.

Dark


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 15, 2008, 10:23:12 AM
I heard a rumor that they flim Ted coming back to the Camp and he walk across Jason and Jason killed him. I do not know where i heard this rumor at but i believe it was on another message board a few years ago. I always wonder if it really happen


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 15, 2008, 02:37:01 PM
I thought Ted was wicked funny. I also think its cool that he's also in the movie Once Bitten.

The major thing that bothers me about this film is that a lot of people stayed at the bar so they weren't killed off. It might have been nice to know what happened to them after that. Maybe when they were carting off Ginny they could have been in the background with shocked faces.

I mean, how did the cops and everyone find Ginny? One would assume that if they had a phone, they would have used it earlier in the night lol. So I think its safe to say that the rest of the kids arrived and found Ginny.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SwanKong on June 15, 2008, 04:19:19 PM
The fact that the party people never made another appearance in the end of the movie always bothered me as well.  I'll bet that they didn't have enough money in the budget to pay them to appear again.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 15, 2008, 09:11:35 PM
I always thought that was funny,they went out to party and didnt come back,But what about the police car that was blocking the road?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on June 17, 2008, 01:36:13 PM
One of my favorite entries in the series, and likely my favorite of the 'serious' (pre-Jason Lives) films. I do have a few small quibbles - even before Jason was made bald because of the aesthetics of a hockey mask, his 'hairy' look simply doesn't quite do justice to the character I'd imagine him to be even if I were to watch it without bias - but it's still a solid movie all-around. And it really segues nicely with the first film, making it seem like one continuous story. After this film, none of the movies really did.

My biggest disappointment is with the introduction of the 'Jason didn't die lol!' meme, courtesy of Ginny. Most of the fanbase seem to have forgotten that she was drunk at the time, and most likely talking out of her ass. That they can't see that this notion is contradicted by virtually every later entry is their own fault, however.

That said, it's an appreciable entry, and I prefer it by far to the original. Jason is a much more effective screen slasher than his mother, and some of the kills remain effective even today (Mark's and the double-bed-spear in particular).


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 17, 2008, 02:28:22 PM
To me thats how a guy would look if he grew up in the woods,not clean shaven and a bicked head


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on June 17, 2008, 02:41:14 PM
To me thats how a guy would look if he grew up in the woods,not clean shaven and a bicked head

Jason didn't grow up in the woods. There is no evidence, aside from the drunken theorizing of Ginny at the bar, that he did.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Maniac on June 17, 2008, 03:58:44 PM
It's a good theory even if she was drunk, I share the same one.

Dark


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on June 17, 2008, 07:05:49 PM
It's a good theory even if she was drunk, I share the same one.

Dark

No, it isn't. In fact, it's a bad theory, precisely because there's empirical evidence that it is not true.

Ignore for a moment the link to which I posted in my thread on the subject in this forum that confirms his initial death in the lake. Assuming that Jason lived, why didn't he return to the Voorhees residence? Anyone capable of navigating the forest is capable of finding his way to his house in the dead center of it.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Count_Sarge on June 17, 2008, 07:20:16 PM
Whatever he was on I need it. ;D

If he did drown wouldn't they have found a body then? They said in Part 2 they didn't.....



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on June 17, 2008, 07:22:49 PM
Whatever he was on I need it. ;D

If he did drown wouldn't they have found a body then? They said in Part 2 they didn't.....

Why would they? He drowned in 1958. Sonar technology was a new invention at the time, and cost a great deal of money, much more than what seems to be a relatively rural county might afford. The Voorhees family must have been relatively poor, given Pamela's position as a camp cook, thus mitigating any desperate need to find young Jason. Furthermore, given that Jason Takes Manhattan has established that Crystal Lake has some waterway connection to the Atlantic Ocean, it's entirely possible he was swept up in the undertow and carried to a far-off region of the area.

See my other thread for proof positive of his initial death.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Count_Sarge on June 17, 2008, 07:35:27 PM
Sadly I have not seen all the Friday the 13th films :'( So I don't know what your talking about.

Before I say anything else do any of  the other 13th fans consider the New Line sequels as part of the series?




Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on June 17, 2008, 07:37:36 PM
Sadly I have not seen all the Friday the 13th films :'( So I don't know what your talking about.

Before I say anything else do any of  the other 13th fans consider the New Line sequels as part of the series?

I'd say a majority of them. There's a substantial minority of reactionary dead-enders who behave rather like Christian Fundamentalists in regards to the series, clinging to the first eight films alone as 'canon' and dismissing, without a shred of proof that they should or were intended to, the later three. But these are in the minority.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 17, 2008, 10:25:30 PM
Assuming that Jason lived, why didn't he return to the Voorhees residence? Anyone capable of navigating the forest is capable of finding his way to his house in the dead center of it.

Because it didn't exist when the theory of him drowning, or even not drowning was made up.

I know I normally say that saying "its only a movie" isn't something I like to hear, but think in this case that type of thing really does apply.

There was no Voorhees House...it was never discussed if the Voorhees' even lived in that area. For all we know she just worked there and her son went there because she worked there.

In Pt. 3 his house was that shack in the woods..the one with his shrine. Its obvious that he had been living there. EDIT: I mean in Pt. 2


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 18, 2008, 12:44:19 AM
Jason didn't grow up in the woods. There is no evidence, aside from the drunken theorizing of Ginny at the bar, that he did.


And besides the drunken people who made JGTH there is no evidence of the house either,and even if there was a house how would a handicaped 12 year old learn how to shave and cut hair?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 19, 2008, 02:23:06 AM
Sadly I have not seen all the Friday the 13th films :'( So I don't know what your talking about.

Before I say anything else do any of  the other 13th fans consider the New Line sequels as part of the series?




Well i do I guess. But the ones that New Line does not own IMO are better, You should check the rest out you will love them


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: LAZARUS on June 29, 2008, 10:37:35 PM
 Just saw this film again for the first time in many years.

The shrine in the woods with the bodies strewn around it's base is just so creepy. An obvious homage to Psycho? 

On the shack. Some have argued that Jason built the shack himself. Not necessarily so. He could have come across an abandoned shack or murdered the original inhabitant.

Have to take issue with the theory that Jason drowned in the lake. He is obviously very human in this movie.

The opening sequence is very similar to Halloween where the killer ventures into Suburbia.

Alice's drawings of Jason at the beginning of the film reminded me of the drawings in the film "The Howling". Both films released in 1981. "The Colony" in "The Howling" also reminds me of Camp Crystal Lake.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 29, 2008, 11:05:28 PM
I thought the shack was suposed to be the camp sight from part one,thats why the cop doesnt want anyone to trespass there


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SwanKong on June 29, 2008, 11:44:13 PM
Oh my.......


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 30, 2008, 09:17:03 AM
I thought the shack was suposed to be the camp sight from part one,thats why the cop doesnt want anyone to trespass there

yes, although it doesn't look like any of the cabins from the first one, that was always the impression I had, that it was part of Crystal Lake since it is next door to the training center.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 30, 2008, 01:27:46 PM
I thought the shack was suposed to be the camp sight from part one,thats why the cop doesnt want anyone to trespass there

I do not think its the camp sight from the first one. The Cop do not want anyone near or on Crystal Lake. And we all know Crystal Lake is big camp ground so that could be a differnt Camp sight since the shack look nothing like anything from the first movie


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 30, 2008, 01:38:27 PM
Its been a while since I've seen Pt. 2 with paying full attention to it (I've had it in the background)

But I'm pretty sure at some point the campground was said to have been taken down. I know they say this is Pt. 6, so maybe thats what I'm thinking of.

But, it has been 5yrs since anyone has been to that camp, so I think its very possible that its one of the cabins.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 30, 2008, 02:04:03 PM
In the begining of part 2 while driving to the camp,they stop and pull the tree out of the road,and while the guys are doing that sandra,finds the old sign that says camp crystal lake,and Ted says oh thats camp blood,its on the same lake that are camp is,and they start to ask questions about camp blood and ted says lets go You dont want to hear about it-and the same couple later on gets in trouble for wondering to the shack -Camp Blood - which is why the cop takes them back and has a talk with Paul and says he wants to keep it quiet for another 5 years-So yes its supposed to be the same place as in part 1


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on June 30, 2008, 03:53:40 PM
Yeah, it's the same place, but not nesecarily a cabin from the original.........I think it was supposed to have been built by Jason...but I could be wrong. *_*


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 01, 2008, 02:36:47 AM
Yeah, it's the same place, but not nesecarily a cabin from the original.........I think it was supposed to have been built by Jason...but I could be wrong. *_*

That's what I prefer to believe. And if a rebuttal returns with "why only part 2"?, I'd say..."Well, if people would quit killing Jason, he could enjoy his shack."


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 01, 2008, 07:26:52 PM
I thought all fans knew this shack was on the old campgrounds. It could be one of the old cabins, or it could just be some old shack out near Camp Blood. Old shacks can be found anywhere :)


This is still my fave of the original series. II, IV and VI are the most fun, and III and VII fit in there, too.
Pt. I has grown on me in 28 years. I just prefer II for some reason. I like the characters better.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 03, 2008, 08:38:41 PM
I doubt it's a cabin or shack built professionally. If so, they did a terrible job because it's horribly done and they built it surrounded by trees out in the middle of nowhere.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on July 03, 2008, 08:58:37 PM
I doubt it's a cabin or shack built professionally. If so, they did a terrible job because it's horribly done and they built it surrounded by trees out in the middle of nowhere.

I always thought that it was a shack in rambles that maybe Jason fixed up


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 03, 2008, 09:02:19 PM
I always like to think Jason had something to do with it. Either building it or making it his own.

The shack is the least of my thoughts on this movie. Another amazing installment to the series, not only did it establish a horror icon, but added a lot of story to the films.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on July 05, 2008, 09:25:11 PM
I just realized that the shack reminded me of the shack in (I think) Sleepaway Camp 2, maybe 3...I dunno, can't remember. It's where Pamela Springsteen hid the bodies. lol Pamela ^_^


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on July 06, 2008, 08:08:29 AM
Even that cabin was nicer LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on July 06, 2008, 10:01:17 AM
Even that cabin was nicer LOL

LOL Really!

Anyways i always though Jason built it by himself


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 18, 2008, 04:33:23 PM
Can you imagine how bad it stunk in there when the cop went inside? How could he not smell Jason coming up behind him, or hear the floor creaking? :)   Still my fave of the series.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on July 19, 2008, 02:49:31 AM
Can you imagine how bad it stunk in there when the cop went inside? How could he not smell Jason coming up behind him, or hear the floor creaking?

He couldn't because the shack already stunk beyond all levels.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 19, 2008, 03:13:57 AM
He couldn't because the shack already stunk beyond all levels.

Whatever was in the toliet was actually bad enough to grow something in it like soil


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Count_Sarge on July 20, 2008, 02:49:15 AM
Heh-heh.....I wonder if Jason pays his water bill. ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 20, 2008, 04:16:58 AM
He longer gets service due to complaints from the mailman about "murderous intent".


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: cabbagestew on August 25, 2008, 02:44:35 AM
Hope this doesn't sound too silly, but I am curious:

When Vickie goes back to the cabin to "freshen up" for Mark, I don't really understand what she did that was any more appealing?  She changed from black undies to dark brown?  I don't get it...

 ::)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on August 25, 2008, 08:10:03 AM
Have to take issue with the theory that Jason drowned in the lake. He is obviously very human in this movie.

Nonsense. Someone who is 'very human' doesn't simply get up from a machete blade driven that deeply into their shoulder - especially their shoulder, given the fact that the shoulder muscles control virtually all upper arm movement and are chock-full of vital veins and arteries.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 25, 2008, 10:00:21 AM
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Someone who is 'very human' doesn't simply get up from a machete blade driven that deeply into their shoulder

what was sthe length of time between 2 and 3??? maybe he had some time to heal up..... cause in 2 he has half a head of hair... in3 ..bald... not sayin it has anything to do with anything.... but it might(for the movies sake)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Maniac on August 25, 2008, 10:38:19 AM
Part 3 begins right after the events of Part 2. Basically that same night. We see Jason pull the machete out of his shoulder then head over to that store, steal cloths off the clothsline and then killing the couple (I don't recall their names) who live there.

Dark


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on August 25, 2008, 11:51:55 AM
Part 3 begins right after the events of Part 2. Basically that same night. We see Jason pull the machete out of his shoulder then head over to that store, steal cloths off the clothsline and then killing the couple (I don't recall their names) who live there.

Dark

Not to mention the fact he seems to have full use of his arm the very next day, and is strong enough to squeeze Rick's head to pulp just two nights afterwards, without having received any medical attention or treatment. In a normal human one would expect at the very least that he'd have no use of that arm, and he'd likely have died from blood loss.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 25, 2008, 03:51:00 PM
if  its the next night after... they should have made JASON look more like from 2... cause its mileadeing


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on August 28, 2008, 06:47:10 PM
Hope this doesn't sound too silly, but I am curious:

When Vickie goes back to the cabin to "freshen up" for Mark, I don't really understand what she did that was any more appealing?  She changed from black undies to dark brown?  I don't get it...

 ::)

I'm just guessing that she just wanted to make sure she wasn't gross smelling and a hair wasnt out of place. Maybe her undies were dirty or something, or she thought they weren't as cute as the other pair.

As for the machete wound...yeah, it makes sense that he wouldn't be human because he is able to use the arm with no issues. But in Pt. 3 he obviously feels pain as he grunts when Chris stabs him.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 28, 2008, 07:23:28 PM
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When Vickie goes back to the cabin to "freshen up" for Mark, I don't really understand what she did that was any more appealing?  She changed from black undies to dark brown?  I don't get it...


she also sprays some perfume "down there"... she probably was a little rank


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SwanKong on August 28, 2008, 09:16:54 PM
Girls have to sometimes do that when they are camping. ;)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on August 29, 2008, 02:22:52 AM
What I don't get is when Vicky sees Jason, she just stands there in the corner the whole time he walks to her, while the door is right there! What's wrong with her?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 29, 2008, 09:18:35 AM
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What I don't get is when Vicky sees Jason, she just stands there in the corner the whole time he walks to her, while the door is right there! What's wrong with her?


ive often asked myself that same question..... shock??? i dont buy it....


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Maniac on August 29, 2008, 10:31:22 AM
Typical horror movie female victim, sit there cowering and pleading with the killer instead of hauling butt!

Dark


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Undertaker on August 29, 2008, 07:19:38 PM
Typical horror movie female victim, sit there cowering and pleading with the killer instead of hauling butt!

Dark

Maybe she was trying to win him over with her beauty  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 29, 2008, 09:14:23 PM
Well it didn't work now did it lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 30, 2008, 12:45:54 AM
she was only "meeehh' any way ......


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on August 30, 2008, 05:18:20 PM
I thought she was beautiful, but obviously jason's only loved one was his dearest mommy


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 30, 2008, 07:33:13 PM
I thought she was beautiful, but obviously jason's only loved one was his dearest mommy

And Muffin lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 31, 2008, 10:38:30 AM
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I thought she was beautiful, but obviously jason's only loved one was his dearest mommy

she has that whole "girl next door" thang goin.... thats hott in a way lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on September 13, 2008, 10:09:05 AM
i have a flannel that looks like the one JV wears in friday2...i collect flannels(loser i know)..all i need now are a pair of overalls a pillow case... and a pitchfork... and im in BUISINESS!!! lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on September 16, 2008, 11:50:11 PM
The farming business


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on September 17, 2008, 01:22:34 AM
u know  what... i call JV "old man voorhees"  whenever i watch it.... funny u should say that


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SwanKong on September 17, 2008, 09:23:17 PM
The farming business

LMFAO!!! 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Machete J on October 22, 2008, 10:59:13 PM
When i i frst saw this,i always pictured Jason to steal the hockey mask from mister-wheel-chair-hockey-machete-in-the-face-pushed-down-the-stairs-boy(yes i saw this after the other ones because i fail like that)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on October 29, 2008, 05:43:20 PM
LOL, it's ok.....I saw Part 3 first I think, but I wanted to see them in order.

NOOBPWND lol j/k

I love you, Don't kill me  :-X


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 12, 2008, 08:53:14 AM
i dunno why.... but i laugh everytime ginny pees herself when seeing the mouse.... i dont see how that would put her over the top, and  to say "ok, thats it.. its comiin RIGHT now!...".... i mean.. with everything else that waas goin on.. :P


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MrsV on November 12, 2008, 02:03:32 PM
It's even funnier that Jason "seems" to hear the pee.  LOL!! What else made him turn around???   :D


EDIT: Fixed the font color as it was unreadable ~ Kat


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MichaelMyers1978 on November 12, 2008, 04:10:28 PM
i dunno why.... but i laugh everytime ginny pees herself when seeing the mouse.... i dont see how that would put her over the top, and  to say "ok, thats it.. its comiin RIGHT now!...".... i mean.. with everything else that waas goin on.. :P

well to be honest jimmyd i always thought the rat was the one doing the pissin :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MrsV on November 12, 2008, 09:07:24 PM
Thanks Kat. Sorry bout that.

That is a heck of alot of pee for a rat.  LOL!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 12, 2008, 11:34:29 PM
well to be honest jimmyd i always thought the rat was the one doing the pissin :)

a lot of people think that, in fact there is a huge debate on it somewhere around here....i still say it was her


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on November 13, 2008, 12:00:44 AM
Rats can't pee that much, it has to be Ginny.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Maniac on November 13, 2008, 10:45:42 AM
It was Ginny, she was scared $hitless and some people tend to piss their pants when they get frightened. I don't see how a rat can hold that much uring in it's tiny bladder.

Dark


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: tulsamike3434 on November 13, 2008, 11:56:28 AM
 :jason3:  The cabin......

I just watched the whole cabin/shack scene in slow motion  and in is not an old cabin it is a shack built with odds and ends of plywood, old doors, pallets and so on. as far as Jason growing up in the woods he had to be there a while because in the end scene when Genni turns around and see the shrine there is a body there on the left that was decade for at lease 4 or 5 years because in looks like leather. so imo I think he grew up in the woods. He could have  easily stayed out there raiding peoples camp sites, houses, cabins. 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MichaelMyers1978 on November 13, 2008, 12:19:25 PM
Rats can't pee that much, it has to be Ginny.

have you seen a rat piss ?

a lot of people think that, in fact there is a huge debate on it somewhere around here....i still say it was her

it might be her but ... ive been scared b4 and never pissed myself , i say pissing yourself while scared is a 'myth' lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 13, 2008, 10:52:21 PM
if u look closely.. she makes a face.... relizong shes peed... the "oh my god!" KIDA SQUINTS... JUST LOOK


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Maniac on November 14, 2008, 08:46:59 AM
if u look closely.. she makes a face.... relizong shes peed... the "oh my god!" KIDA SQUINTS... JUST LOOK


Exactly!

Dark


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on November 14, 2008, 05:57:26 PM
have you seen a rat piss ?

it might be her but ... ive been scared b4 and never pissed myself , i say pissing yourself while scared is a 'myth' lol

I think females pee easier then men,like when they get tickled or scared-no myth


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MichaelMyers1978 on November 16, 2008, 01:58:37 PM
I think females pee easier then men,like when they get tickled or scared-no myth

lol i suppose , women are the inferior species :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on November 17, 2008, 09:34:09 PM
Arghh please no-one mention species, I just had a Biology exam yesterday and all I wrote was species, species, species! It was horrible lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MichaelMyers1978 on November 18, 2008, 12:43:32 PM
Arghh please no-one mention species, I just had a Biology exam yesterday and all I wrote was species, species, species! It was horrible lol

SPECIES SPECIES SPECIES LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 18, 2008, 07:17:00 PM
I think females pee easier then men,like when they get tickled or scared-no myth

When I was like 7ish maybe a little older...my sisters bf at the time started to tickle me...I warned him that I'd pee if he didn't stop...well, he didn't listen...and I just so happened to be on his lap....LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: screamin_weasel75 on November 18, 2008, 11:55:02 PM
When I was like 7ish maybe a little older...my sisters bf at the time started to tickle me...I warned him that I'd pee if he didn't stop...well, he didn't listen...and I just so happened to be on his lap....LOL
Are you still on his lap??  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 24, 2008, 11:44:52 PM
:jason3:  The cabin......

I just watched the whole cabin/shack scene in slow motion  and in is not an old cabin it is a shack built with odds and ends of plywood, old doors, pallets and so on. as far as Jason growing up in the woods he had to be there a while because in the end scene when Genni turns around and see the shrine there is a body there on the left that was decade for at lease 4 or 5 years because in looks like leather. so imo I think he grew up in the woods. He could have  easily stayed out there raiding peoples camp sites, houses, cabins. 

I still think from the inside it looks like an old cabin, probably fallen apart and put back together with odds and ends...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on November 24, 2008, 11:50:30 PM
The inside looks kinda big,especially when the cop is searching it-it doesnt look to big from the outside..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: stain on December 03, 2008, 05:17:29 PM
The best part of 2 is Jason's cabin.  It's probably the only time Jason appeared human, they even included a toilet. 

I'm sure you guys have read the novelizations ... in the novels (part 1 & 2) you get a real sense of what Jason did while in the woods, being part alive and part dead (having not fully regenerated since the drowning).  He ate wild animals that he caught in traps and he had a need for sleep and shelter (the cabin).  Humanizing Jason, even though is part alive/dead, makes the story more interesting ... that is why I like parts 1-4 more than 5-FreddyvJason. 

I never understood why they never went back to Jason's cabin in the later sequels.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 03, 2008, 07:44:53 PM
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I never understood why they never went back to Jason's cabin in the later sequels. 
 
 



ive thought the same thing!.....i mean no one knows about it (other than ginny).. cause paul is thought to be dead i think....and it would have been nice to see some more of Mrs. Voorhees' head...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: stain on December 03, 2008, 08:16:02 PM


ive thought the same thing!.....i mean no one knows about it (other than ginny).. cause paul is thought to be dead i think....and it would have been nice to see some more of Mrs. Voorhees' head...

They really screwed up by not making that a larger part of the stories after part 4.  Now, one of the good things about the remake is that they are clearly going to have Jason's cabin. 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 03, 2008, 08:22:08 PM
yeah.. but i noticed a bed with jasons name on it... thats a little too much for me...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 03, 2008, 08:24:12 PM
yeah.. but i noticed a bed with jasons name on it... thats a little too much for me...

probably the same feeling most people got when they saw the FvsJ photo of Jason on the bed with the Teddy Bear lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: stain on December 03, 2008, 08:34:27 PM
yeah.. but i noticed a bed with jasons name on it... thats a little too much for me...

I also don't like the twinkle lights either.  LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 03, 2008, 08:49:02 PM
at the end of the movie... when it zooms in on  Mrs.Vs' head... i swear i remember seeing her eyes open once  as a kid... or tha just coulda been me..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on December 04, 2008, 01:14:11 AM
probably the same feeling most people got when they saw the FvsJ photo of Jason on the bed with the Teddy Bear lol

That's weird. I didn't remember anything like that?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 04, 2008, 01:44:59 PM
That's weird. I didn't remember anything like that?


http://www.campblood.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=46&pos=34

I don't know why I made the darn photo so small...LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on December 04, 2008, 02:53:33 PM
Thats funny ive never seen that before


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on December 08, 2008, 08:26:34 AM
Jason's cabin was a crime scene after Part II.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 08, 2008, 10:09:32 AM
Jason's cabin was a crime scene after Part II.

do they say that somewhere?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on December 08, 2008, 01:42:31 PM
At the begining of part 3 on the news,says they found bodies throughout a 5 mile radius of the lake,which most of those were at his cabin.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: screamin_weasel75 on December 08, 2008, 01:54:37 PM
at the end of the movie... when it zooms in on  Mrs.Vs' head... i swear i remember seeing her eyes open once  as a kid... or tha just coulda been me..
The head's eyes were supposed to open and smile at the camara, but that idea was dumped due it being kinda cheap.  Good idea it didn't happen.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 28, 2008, 11:07:16 PM
The head's eyes were supposed to open and smile at the camara, but that idea was dumped due it being kinda cheap.  Good idea it didn't happen.

yup.... right from IMD...

"Throughout the final scene, the mummified head of Mrs. Voorhees is noticeably an actress wearing makeup rather than a fake head. The final shot is a close-up of the head, ending in a freeze frame before the credits roll. Originally this shot ended with Mrs. Voorhees opening her eyes and smiling, but at the last minute Steve Miner decided this effect was hokey and cheapened the movie's impact."



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Mr Krueger on December 31, 2008, 03:24:11 PM
Part II is my favourite in the series, in my opinion parts I-IV are the best because they really emphasise what Jason is all about, if you can understand that.



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 31, 2008, 06:37:39 PM
Part II is my favourite in the series, in my opinion parts I-IV are the best because they really emphasise what Jason is all about, if you can understand that.



understood.. part 6 kinds hold to that with me .. only cause tommys charachter is still involved..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on January 03, 2009, 11:52:19 AM
Part II is my favourite in the series, in my opinion parts I-IV are the best because they really emphasise what Jason is all about, if you can understand that.



You don't think 6 did that? Is it the whole "zombie" Jason thing? Cuz it seems to me the first 6 stick togehter and flow well. Seven lost me.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on January 03, 2009, 06:06:06 PM
actally even though Jason was a zombie in part 6 i stll think it stick together to part 4 but part 7 went its on way. i guess you can say it went a differnt way when Kane Hodder took over the role of Jason from Part 7-Jason X. Not that i am bitching since Kane is one of my fav Jason with CJ been up there lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on January 03, 2009, 06:11:10 PM
actally even though Jason was a zombie in part 6 i stll think it stick together to part 4 but part 7 went its on way. i guess you can say it went a differnt way when Kane Hodder took over the role of Jason from Part 7-Jason X. Not that i am bitching since Kane is one of my fav Jason with CJ been up there lol

Yeah, Kane is my favorite Jason...I would have loved to see him in 2-6. :) Part 7 was still *kinda* in line with 1-6, IMO, but it had a different "feel." Then they just went bat.shit.insane.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on January 04, 2009, 01:03:45 AM
lol yea they did


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on February 08, 2009, 08:58:34 PM
who loves the sack head as much as i do?
its so great and creepy in my book the hockey mask and the sack head are at a tie! but hockey mask is so original! 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on February 08, 2009, 08:59:26 PM
who loves the sack head as much as i do?
its so great and creepy in my book the hockey mask and the sack head are at a tie! but hockey mask is so original! 


im also a fan of sackhead jason...the hockey mask is iconic.. but the sack head is creepy too..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on February 08, 2009, 09:00:18 PM
does anyone else think that at the start of the movie that it might be a copy cat killer that kills alice?
as many movies i have seen that the killer comes back to life i actually thought it was mrs voorhees!!!!! lol well thats what i thought the VERY first time i saw it


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on February 08, 2009, 09:01:12 PM
im also a fan of sackhead jason...the hockey mask is iconic.. but the sack head is creepy too..
the creepiest part for me of the sack head is when Ginny is in the dark yelling Paul? and then he pops up MAN THAT SCARED ME !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on February 08, 2009, 09:07:10 PM
the creepiest part for me of the sack head is when Ginny is in the dark yelling Paul? and then he pops up MAN THAT SCARED ME !


when ginny finds the shack.... she enters.. and you can see JV running twords the shack from the window... that always creepes me out...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on February 08, 2009, 09:19:43 PM
oh my gosh me too! the first time i saw it i didnt see it but when i watched it again it was like seeing a subliminal message so creeeeepy!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: stain on February 09, 2009, 02:54:23 PM
Part II is my favourite in the series, in my opinion parts I-IV are the best because they really emphasise what Jason is all about, if you can understand that.



I understand what you are talking about.  1-4 fit the best and tell on coherent story. 

I also like the sack head look, but like it's been mentioned before they ripped that from "The Town that Dreaded Sundown".




Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on February 09, 2009, 04:37:22 PM
my opinion is the whole series gets a 1,000,000,000,000,000 (INFINITY) out of 10 :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on February 10, 2009, 10:04:16 AM
The last time I was at the movies, I saw a preview for the new friday and I could swear there was a scene with Jason wearing the tater sack.........I hope so lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MichaelMyers1978 on February 10, 2009, 11:50:18 AM
The last time I was at the movies, I saw a preview for the new friday and I could swear there was a scene with Jason wearing the tater sack.........I hope so lol
yea in the remake/reboot he wears the ol' sack for a bit, but i doubt its for long.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on February 11, 2009, 10:02:41 AM
Long enough lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on February 11, 2009, 03:27:19 PM
i saw the preview in the theaters 3 times it was so enjoyable lol idk why but i love seeing it on big screen
BRING ON thruday night/friday morning (WHEN IM SEEING IT)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on March 29, 2009, 07:58:11 PM
I still can't quit laughing aat fat cop in Pt. 2. He was so lame.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MichaelMyers1978 on March 30, 2009, 12:29:36 PM
I still can't quit laughing aat fat cop in Pt. 2. He was so lame.

Lol. he was


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on March 30, 2009, 12:41:25 PM
The cop was funny,and had nothing better to do then keep an eye out for trespassers,of a camp that had ben closed for 5 years.Whats more funny is how he just leaves his car in the middle of the road to chase a guy in the woods?Who moved his damn car?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Fallen on March 31, 2009, 12:30:07 AM
The cop was funny,and had nothing better to do then keep an eye out for trespassers,of a camp that had ben closed for 5 years.Whats more funny is how he just leaves his car in the middle of the road to chase a guy in the woods?Who moved his damn car?

My thoughts exactly, also on top of that...Did you catch it when he stops to fix his hair? :D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on March 31, 2009, 09:32:05 PM
YES!!!.. one of my favorite parts out of ANY friday13 film.. haha.. good call


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on April 01, 2009, 06:37:59 AM
The cop was funny,and had nothing better to do then keep an eye out for trespassers,of a camp that had ben closed for 5 years.Whats more funny is how he just leaves his car in the middle of the road to chase a guy in the woods?Who moved his damn car?

You know i always wondering who move his car was it jason or what because we really do not know if jason can drive and we know the car was move because when the campers was going out to party that night they had to use the same road where he park his car and it was gone.



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on April 01, 2009, 06:38:24 AM
My thoughts exactly, also on top of that...Did you catch it when he stops to fix his hair? :D

OMG that was so funny.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 10, 2009, 01:44:42 AM
"as long as I keep my gun in my holster, I'll be ok" Is what he should've said.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on April 11, 2009, 09:06:30 PM
LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 11, 2009, 09:43:24 PM
when JV chases ginny into his shack... she half ass barricades the door... it seems to take JV  a little bit to break through it... .. ..but it looks like a harsh wind would have brought it down..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on April 13, 2009, 12:28:48 AM
Also do not forget she pissed her pants lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MichaelMyers1978 on April 15, 2009, 04:32:13 PM
when JV chases ginny into his shack... she half ass barricades the door... it seems to take JV  a little bit to break through it... .. ..but it looks like a harsh wind would have brought it down..
haha true  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 16, 2009, 12:47:57 PM
My favorite scene in the entire film (besides the campfire scene) is when Jason actually gets the cop to chase him through the woods and into the shelter. The cop looks around (with classic Manfredini music playing) and we actually see Jason's shelter. Then Jason puts the hammer in his head. I think that whole scene was absolutely suspensful and scary and perfectly done.

Then again, Friday the 13th Part 2 is just filled with great stuff.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 16, 2009, 09:44:28 PM
It is the best of the earlier movies. Hands down. This and the 4th one.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 22, 2009, 10:54:59 PM
just got done watchin this one...some un answered questions....


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 22, 2009, 11:36:01 PM
just got done watchin this one...some un answered questions....

which are?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 23, 2009, 01:20:07 AM
which are?

I'm going to take a guess at what he was referring to:

Did Jason drown or did he live in the woods the whole time?

Well, some folks (like myself) believe he did in fact drown and came back to life at some point supernaturally while others believe he just lived out in the woods the whole time. Being that the story is in the context of a campfire legend, ANYTHING is possible.

Were there two Jasons crashing through the window at the end of the film?

Nope, it was the same person (Warringtom Gillette) just shot from two different angles.

Did Ginny pee or was it the rat?

I think if it were Ginny, most of her pee would have been obsorbed by her pants, so it was probably the rat's.

After Jason dragged Vicky’s dead body down the stairs, why was there not blood?

Good question. That is a blooper. It would have made sense to have a trail of blood, but there wasn’t.

What happened to Paul?

Legend has it the actor left the set before the ending was shot. Some believe him dead. Others believe him missing. Maybe he and Gordon (Tommy’s dog) live out in the woods together somewhere.

Where is the hockey mask?

He doesn’t get that until about an hour into Part 3.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 23, 2009, 08:29:48 AM
hahaha... yeh.. i was way too wrecked to even try and think about it... i posted the only things i remembered in another thread... but ive always had those questions that rich posted.jwich is funny cause its like he just took then from my head haha..... i think i used the wrong term last night in my drunkenness..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on April 23, 2009, 10:30:04 AM
I'm going to take a guess at what he was referring to:

Did Jason drown or did he live in the woods the whole time?

Well, some folks (like myself) believe he did in fact drown and came back to life at some point supernaturally while others believe he just lived out in the woods the whole time. Being that the story is in the context of a campfire legend, ANYTHING is possible.

Were there two Jasons crashing through the window at the end of the film?

Nope, it was the same person (Warringtom Gillette) just shot from two different angles.

Did Ginny pee or was it the rat?

I think if it were Ginny, most of her pee would have been obsorbed by her pants, so it was probably the rat's.

After Jason dragged Vicky’s dead body down the stairs, why was there not blood?

Good question. That is a blooper. It would have made sense to have a trail of blood, but there wasn’t.

What happened to Paul?

Legend has it the actor left the set before the ending was shot. Some believe him dead. Others believe him missing. Maybe he and Gordon (Tommy’s dog) live out in the woods together somewhere.

Where is the hockey mask?

He doesn’t get that until about an hour into Part 3.

Ill try to answer a few.I think the piss was Ginnys-to much there to be a rat or even a cat.

The paul question is that it was basically a bad ending-when ginny was calling out for paul we were so supposed to hear the Parametic answer ginny-but we didnt leaving the ?.

Never heard anyone say there were 2 jason jumping through the window.

When it comes to the Drowning question-im not sure what I believe there.I wanna say he lived,because he grew in size-and people are aware that he streals things to survive.At the same time though-to go through some of the things Jason has it almost seems that he has to be supernatural in some ways.

I have a question for part 2,who called allice and hung up after her fight with her mom?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 23, 2009, 06:22:13 PM
haha.. thats 1  i thought of last night while watching..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 24, 2009, 12:46:52 AM
Paul died. They say that in Part 3. On the news.   Ginny pissed.

Kat, u need to get a sack icon for Part II.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 24, 2009, 07:11:48 AM
haha, sorry, when I asked the question "which are" it was cause Jimmy and I were watchin the movie together...and I couldn't remember which things he brought up either LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 24, 2009, 08:35:00 PM
yeah i was pretty out of it ..ha


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on April 25, 2009, 11:49:31 AM
Jimmy when are you not out of it?

J/K


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 25, 2009, 08:15:49 PM
Jimmy when are you not out of it?

J/K

haha.. :)..


i remember 3 cars... ginny's.. jeff's truck .. and vicki's car..... how did everyone else get there?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on April 26, 2009, 04:26:31 PM
Space ship.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on April 26, 2009, 07:04:48 PM

haha.. :)..


i remember 3 cars... ginny's.. jeff's truck .. and vicki's car..... how did everyone else get there?

They could have used Crazy ralfs bike...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 29, 2009, 01:14:14 AM
They either got rides from a realative, or maybe some of them shared and split the fair for a cab.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: xjediskywalkerx on May 04, 2009, 10:23:43 PM
i never got, if jason was alive, why didnt he just tell his mom he was fine?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on May 05, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
That is my arguement. If Jason did in fact survive the drowning experience, why would he not just go back to his mother instead of just live out in the woods? It really does not make sense. That is why I believe he just drowned and came back from the dead. Just say it is supernatural and you don't have to explain it.  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on May 05, 2009, 08:59:05 AM
thats the only thing that really bothers me too...i dont wanna think JV spent all that time out in the woods if he didnt drown.. cause that just plain stupid... and im not a real big fan of the supernatural..ill play along.... but theres a line...... i know that alot of horror movies are to a degree(halloween,ANOES,hellraiser).... but i guess one of the things that attract me to the TCM specifically.. is that its more realistic.. in the sense that leatherface hasnt been killed and just came back to life... he gets injured...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on May 05, 2009, 01:04:20 PM
The novels say he drowned.Jason survived either way and could have gone back to the camp,where his mom worked as the cook,but didnt?Im sure they would have seached the area for him because who saw him drown?if jasons body was never recovered from the Lake,and nobody was there to witness the drowning then who knows.Mrs Voorhees is the one who has flashbacks of it,maybe she was a part of it?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 05, 2009, 03:37:59 PM
Here's that part in the Pt. 2 book

Quote
She had wanted her son to experience the pleasures of a summer in the woods and so she had taken the job as cook at Camp Crystal Lake just so she could stay near him . Only as it turned out, she wasn’t able to stay near enough .   

She was beside herself with worry the night he disappeared, and when his clothes were found by the lake, Pamela Vorhees went berserk. It had been necessary to restrain her and take her to the county hospital, where she was sedated. Although they never found the body of the boy, the official verdict was that it was death by drowning. Pamela Vorhees never recovered from the shock.   

Jason’s memories of what happened on the night he drowned were very dim. He remembered being frightened as his legs cramped up and he start ed to slip beneath the surface of the lake. He had a vague memory of struggling to stay afloat, of water rushing down his throat and filling up his lungs; he could recall the terrifying sensation of sinking down into the murky lake, the fading light, the roaring in his ears. . . and then nothing.   

At some point, consciousness returned, but he had no way of telling how much time had passed. He came to on the shore, covered from head to toe with slime, apparently having dragged himself out of the lake somehow. He coughed up water for a very long time. He remembered lying in the bushes and retching, vomiting up slimy worms and maggots as his body fought its way back to life.   

It never occurred to him to wonder what it was that made him different from the others—why they shrank from him as rabbits shrank from snakes . He never asked himself why he was always healthy, why the slight injuries of childhood had always healed so quickly . He had never broken any bones, so no one ever had the opportunity to notice the supernatural way his body could repair itself . Pamela Vorhees never questioned it, just as she never questioned his peculiar silence . A mother lovers her child . She was simply grateful for having been blessed with a healthy little boy . Like father, like son .   

It did not occur to Jason Vorhees to winder just how long he had been underwater. He merely dragged himself deeper into the woods, some primitive urge driving him to find a hole somewhere that he could crawl into, a dark place where he could rest, and heal, and wait until he could think of what to do.   

After a while, he returned back to the camp, his simple mind telling him that perhaps it was what he was supposed to do . Only there was no longer anybody there . The season had ended and the camp was closed . He broke into several of the cabins and found some cans of food and some old clothes for himself . In the process, he happened to catch sight of himself in a mirror and he recoiled in horror from the image that confronted him . He had been at the bottom of the lake for much longer than he’d realized . His flesh was trying to regenerated and heal itself, but decomposition had set in . The worms had eaten at his face .   

He fled into the woods, terrified of his own reflection. After a while, he found a sack and cut some holes in it, then put it over his head and tied it down around his neck, so that he wouldn’t have to see the grotesque thing he had become if he saw his reflection in the lake.   

He had no idea what to do or where to go. He wondered why his mother didn’t come for him. He was afraid to leave the vicinity of the camp, for that was where he’d seen her last and he didn’t want to miss her if she came looking for him. He didn’t want to get into trouble.   

He lived like an animal, hiding in the woods, avoiding people, killing small creatures for food. He was vaguely aware of time passing, though his days became and endless succession of wondering in the woods and foraging. He was aware of feeling cold as winter came. He took shelter in the cabins at the camp and huddled before fires he built inside the hearths. He had learned to make fires in camp. Thought several times he did it wrong and let the flames get out of control, burning down a couple of the cabins before he got the hang of it.   

On occasion, a policeman would drive by and see smoke curling from the chimney of a cabin that was supposed to be locked up for the winter . He would stop to investigate, but Jason always ran back into the woods whenever anybody came . He was waiting for his mother and he did not want to get into trouble . He knew she would be very angry .   

And then, one day, his mother had returned .   

Some people had come to open up the camp again and he had run off into the woods, hiding from them and watching as they rebuilt the place . Years had passed and he was no full grown, though still with the mid of a small child . But whatever vestige of sanity might have been driven out by the hardships he had suffered and by t he sight of his mother, mad with grief, embarking upon her bloody murder spree . 
 

So, if you wanted to, you could go along completely with that story...or you could edit it to your liking, and change it so that he didn't really die, but perhaps got completely lost in the woods, maybe after his "death" they closed the camp so when he made it back there a few days later it was closed...and then you could follow the rest of the story.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: xjediskywalkerx on May 05, 2009, 04:48:36 PM
i like that story alot. tho when he saw his mother i dont know why he wouldnt stop her from killing people. and was jason forced into the lake by the other kids like shown in freddy vs jason? why else would someone who couldnt swim go into a lake by himself?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 05, 2009, 06:24:40 PM
i like that story alot. tho when he saw his mother i dont know why he wouldnt stop her from killing people. and was jason forced into the lake by the other kids like shown in freddy vs jason? why else would someone who couldnt swim go into a lake by himself?

Well, you can always say that it was just Freddy messing with Lori. I always believed Jason drowned at night, or at least it sorta seemed that way. The scene in FvsJ makes it seem like so many people were around and just nobody wanted to help him.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: xjediskywalkerx on May 05, 2009, 10:58:01 PM
unfortunatley the only answer is, is that we are putting more thought into this than the writers did at the time for part 2. lol. but its still  tied with the first for favorite friday movie


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on May 06, 2009, 05:59:52 PM
ginny is one of my favorite main gals (hard to choose i really love them all)
and the part where she pees many think it is funny but i dont i think it just shows how scared of jason she is! she put up a good fight to so ROCK ON GINNY!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 26, 2009, 06:00:48 PM
on imdb... theres a credit for jerry wallace as "the prowler".... who the hell is that? lol


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082418/fullcredits#cast


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on July 28, 2009, 03:57:01 AM
Good call!
wow i just spent a long time thinking i have no idea!
i have to give part 2 another watch


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SwanKong on July 28, 2009, 12:33:23 PM
on imdb... theres a credit for jerry wallace as "the prowler".... who the hell is that? lol


[url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082418/fullcredits#cast[/url]


Maybe that was who killed Alice?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: xjediskywalkerx on July 28, 2009, 04:00:27 PM
you think someone else killed alice and conveniently dropped her body off in jasons shack?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Ghost on July 28, 2009, 04:41:19 PM
you think someone else killed alice and conveniently dropped her body off in jasons shack?

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Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on August 04, 2009, 01:52:12 PM
Nope. She was staying at Crystal Lake and Jason found her and killed her.

Why do I think she was staying at Crystal Lake?

"I just need to put my life back together and this is the only way I know how!" - Alice (Friday the 13th Part 2, 1981)

She was saying she was facing her fears to put them to rest by staying in the town where she went through her most horrible experience of her life. There were no plane tickets like that idiot said in the documentary. Jason found her and took his revenge.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: stain on August 05, 2009, 11:11:59 AM
Nope. She was staying at Crystal Lake and Jason found her and killed her.

Why do I think she was staying at Crystal Lake?

"I just need to put my life back together and this is the only way I know how!" - Alice (Friday the 13th Part 2, 1981)

She was saying she was facing her fears to put them to rest by staying in the town where she went through her most horrible experience of her life. There were no plane tickets like that idiot said in the documentary. Jason found her and took his revenge.

Exactly.  They go slightly further in the book, but the that one line spoken to her mother says it all.  Alice was trying to face her fears and get over that part of her life, staying near Camp Crystal Lake was part of that experience. 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on August 05, 2009, 12:39:16 PM
They call that shock theropy.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 08, 2009, 10:41:16 AM
just like tina in part 7(shock therapy)......


but even if alice was staying in the crystal lake area... its a little far fetched that JV would have gone from house to house peeking in every window to see if alice was there... but if maybe he was lurking in the woods.. and saw her in town .. then followed her home??



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on August 13, 2009, 12:46:17 PM
He could have followed her home or looked her up in a phone book from a public phone. Even with the mind of an 11 year old, any 11 year old can look up a person's name in a phone book. He probably went into town at night and stole a phone book from a public pay phone and looked her up the next day. With the mind of an 11 year old I can see him doing that.

Today's 11 year olds don't know how to use a phone book because of yellow pages.com and all that stuff, but in Jason's day any 5 year old knew how to use one. Hell, I have had to show people who I work with who are in their 20s how to use one, but like I said, we are in a different generation.  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on August 26, 2009, 11:52:57 PM
Yeah, Jason could've just spottted her. I forget, in the novel, did Alice ever go back to the site after the massacre?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on August 27, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
She did not in the novel. I was never able to find the Part 2 novel, though still looking, so I couldn't answer that one.

I think it would be pretty damn twisted if she did you know. They would write it to where wherever she looked, she would have a flashback of a memory that happened in that particular spot being good or bad. That would make for some interesting psychological shock theoropudic story telling.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on August 27, 2009, 02:24:50 PM
In the Pt. 2 novel Alice does go back to the camp. She walks around. Jason sees her and follows her back to the place she's rented. Then he goes in and kills her.

I haven't gotten the Novel area back up (cause I do have a lot of excerpts posted in that area - if anyone owns some of the books and wants to help me out on a project please check out this thread (http://www.campblood.net/forum/index.php?topic=6099.0)) but here ya go

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Why couldn’t anybody understand? All right, maybe she had imagined it, how could the boy have come up from the bottom of the lake to drag her under? He had drowned years ago. His body would have decomposed long since. And if he had lived, he would have been a full grown man by now. Yet she was certain she had seen something...

According to the police report, she was hysterical when the officers swam out to get her. They said that she had fought them, clawing at them, screaming at them to let her go. She didn’t remember any of that. Perhaps she had fallen out of the boat and they had seen it, and when they swam out to rescue her, her tortured mind deceived her into thinking that it wasn’t a policeman trying to pull her to safety, but a rotting corpse trying to pull her under. Anyway, that was what the psychiatrist had suggested, and it seemed to make sense. After what she had been through, it wasn’t surprising that her mind should have come a bit unhinged.

But she wasn’t really sure. She knew she had seen something. And lately, ever since she had returned to Crystal Lake , she couldn’t shake the feeling that she was being watched. As if there was something out there, waiting for her...

Her mother thought that she was going crazy. Why, after all the horrible things that had happened to her there, would she want to re­turn to the town of Crystal Lake ? Every night, her mother called. Every night, it was the same discussion, always the same old arguments. ‘Come home, honey,” her mother always said, “come home where we can take care of you. We’ll see this thing through together. We’ll get the finest doctors, we’ll do whatever it takes. ”

Her parents simply didn’t understand. What it took was going back to where it had all happened. The camp itself had been shut down and the buildings had all been condemned, but she came back to the town of Crystal Lake where people did not know who she was since her picture had been kept out of the papers when it happened. There she could confront her private demons by herself. Confront them and heat them, or he constringed by them. She had no choice. There was just no other way.

In a sense, she had never really left the place. After being discharged from the hospital, she had gone home to her parents, but each night after she fell asleep, she wound up back at Camp Crystal Lake again, reliving the horror. She would try to stay awake, knowing that it was impossible, knowing that she had to get some sleep, hut dreading it because she knew what sleep would bring. And when, inevitably, she would finally fall asleep from sheer exhaustion, the nightmare would begin again.

She tried explaining it to her parents when they told her it was foolish to go back. “What do you mean, go back?’ she shouted at them in exasperation. “Don’t you understand? I’ve never left! I’m still trapped there! I’ll never get away!”

When she got up from the couch and went back toward the bathroom, her eyes fell on the sketches she had been working on earlier in the day. She had done them in charcoal, shades of gray and black. There was a time, not so very long ago, when she had been a talented, versatile artist. She had enjoyed drawing still-life studies and landscapes, full figures and portraits—but the last thing she had done that looked anything like her former work was the portrait she drew of Steve back at Camp Crystal Lake. That’s when the nightmare started.

Ever since, all her drawings came out looking like this—dark, gloomy and foreboding gray shading into darker gray shading into black, studies of faces with wide eyes and bulging, mouths open in soundless screams.

She had once seen a documentary on television about children who had suffered traumas from abuse. Their drawings didn’t look anything like children’s drawing. No sunlit houses with picket fences and gardens and stick-figure people drawn in warm, bright colors. No, those drawings looked like hers—dark, savage, terrifying, the subconscious mind revealing the violence that had been done to it and crying out for help.

She went into the bathroom and turned on the shower. The phone rang once again.

Sighing, she went back into the living room and picked up the phone. Why couldn’t her mother just leave her alone? Why wouldn’t she understand that the only chance she had of beating this thing was to come back here and face it, prove to herself once and for all that it was over, that there were no more monsters lurking in the dark?

“Mom... “ she said into the phone.

There was no answer on her end.

‘‘Hello?”

Still no response. It was not her mother. She could hear only the sound of heavy breathing.

She slammed the phone down and backed away from it, swallowing hard, trying to compose herself. It’s all right, she tried to tell herself. There’s nothing to worry about. It was probably just some kids playing games, nothing to be afraid of. People who called other people up just to breathe heavily into the phone weren’t really dangerous, were they?

She went over to the window and pulled back the drape, taking a look outside. It was dark and the streets of Crystal Lake were rain slicked. There didn’t appear to be anyone out there, but it was hard to tell with all those shadows. In her present state of mind, every shadow seemed to be a prowler, a huge shape lurking in the darkness, waiting, watching

Her heart started to beat faster. Okay, this is ridiculous, she told herself, the phone rings and all of a sudden, you’re jumping at shadows. It was probably a wrong number.

She checked the chain and deadbolt on the door, then she checked the hall. She knew it seemed foolish to be creeping around her own apartment, but she couldn’t shake the awful feeling that had suddenly come over her, the almost certain feeling that she was not alone.

She checked the bedroom, then looked in the kitchen. She felt a cool breeze. The window was wide open! A knot formed in her stomach. She was almost certain that she had shut it earlier.

She suddenly felt short of breath. There was a tightness in her chest. She couldn’t take her eyes away from the gently blowing curtains on either side of the wide open window. Slowly, she moved toward the window, picking up an ice pick from the sideboard on the sink and holding it like a knife, ready for stabbing. She shut her eyes and took a deep breath.

Suddenly something came flying through the window, straight at her, and she gasped and recoiled with shock, then leaned back against the refrigerator with relief when she realized it had only been the cat.

“Oh, it’s you,’’ she said, exhaling heavily, feeling foolish for overreacting like that. Obviously, she must have left the window open earlier and the cat got out that way. I’ve just got to calm down, she thought. I’ve got to relax before I lose my mind and run screaming out into the street.

She put the ice pick down on tile counter, then ran a little water into the tea kettle, which she set on the stove, turning the burner on high. She took down a box of tea bags and got out a cup and spoon. The cat rubbed against her legs, meowing.

“You want to eat, huh? Okay. ”

She went back to the refrigerator and opened it.

The severed, bloody head of Mrs. Vorhees was resting on the top shelf, between the milk and the half-empty box of chocolate graham crackers. The putrescent mouth was open and the tongue protruded from between the rotting teeth like a dead slug. The stench of decomposing flesh was overpowering. Alice threw her hands up to her face and screamed.

She backed away, turning to run... and suddenly a massive arm was clamped across her throat, throttling her scream, choking it off. She saw the flash of the ice pick she had left lying on the counter and she had only the briefest instant to register the awful realization that her worst nightmares were corning true before the point of the ice pick was driven through her temple. She felt a sharp, searing, white-hot pain, then she fell lifeless to the floor.

The tea kettle started whistling.

The killer took it off the burner and conscientiously turned off the gas.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: lopli321 on August 30, 2009, 10:01:28 PM
Thanks for making this thread. I love this movie. I need to watch it again. Sackhead Jason is my favorite. Why dont we have an avatar of him?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on August 30, 2009, 10:44:20 PM
Why dont we have an avatar of him?

Wow, I really thought we did?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: LOCOFOX 82 on September 01, 2009, 04:51:40 AM
Part 2 is a good little movie. IMO AMY STEEL was one of the strongest actors of the series. I wish she had done another one.  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on September 01, 2009, 02:47:08 PM
Part 2 is a good little movie. IMO AMY STEEL was one of the strongest actors of the series. I wish she had done another one.  ;D

I also liked Paul,to me he was a good fit for the movie


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on September 05, 2009, 11:57:23 AM
everyone from part 2 did a great job with their presence on camera.. i really liked everybody.....


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on September 07, 2009, 04:34:32 AM
watched this one last night for the sixth time this year. its always been my fave. fat cop kills me every time.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on September 07, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
I love that entire scene actually. Harry Manfredini really pulled out all of his musical greatness for that scene where the cop chases Jason through the woods.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on September 13, 2009, 10:42:46 PM
No ass crack footage of cop chasing Jason? LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on September 16, 2009, 12:10:09 AM
i wonder if the actual sack still exists. i kinda remember them talking about it.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on September 17, 2009, 12:02:10 AM
"Vicky? Is that you?"    WHACK!   Still makes me laugh. Sad that the actor died in '96 though.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MrsV on September 17, 2009, 12:00:30 PM
I would have loved to meet Tom McBride. Lauren says he was one of the greatest guys.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on September 17, 2009, 06:05:47 PM
"Vicky? Is that you?"    WHACK!   Still makes me laugh. Sad that the actor died in '96 though.

I always felt horrible for his character. Mark seemed like such a fun guy...I dunno how the actor was at all, but it seemed like he would have been playing himself almost


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on September 18, 2009, 11:53:17 AM
Yeah, he wasn't annoying like Franklin in Texas Chainsaw, he was actually a real nice guy which makes it kind of sad when he gets the machette to the head. Then again, he was smoking weed and about to get laid, and those are the Friday the 13th rules.  ;D

I remember, on the Jason X DVD during the "Many Lives of Jason Voorhees" documentary, when they listed all the possible reasons why Jason'll kill ya. It was a funny segment:

- have sex, smoke pot, drink alcohol, wear too much make-up, wear too little make-up, be fat, be ugly, be pretty, be a bitch, say "Jason is dead," show boobies, show ass, go skinny dipping

It was actually very funny the way they listed everything. They could have summed it up by just saying, "go to Crystal Lake."

Even an episode of TV's Buffy the Vampire Slayer listed one:
Buffy: Let's split up.
Xander: That's the Camp Crystal Lake approach, and it usually winds up with a machette to the head.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on September 24, 2009, 12:59:42 AM
Didn't think he was smoking dope (Mark, the wheelchair dude in 2).
Wasn't Mcbride the first gay actor in the series? I know 7 had a shitload of 'em.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on September 24, 2009, 09:54:30 PM
Nah, he didn't smoke the weed, he refused it.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on September 26, 2009, 08:07:45 AM
Nah, he didn't smoke the weed, he refused it.

ya... he was "in training" lol ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on October 27, 2009, 12:30:39 PM
This is on Spike TV right now...

I haven't watched these on TV in awhile..its funny how much they edit.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: mangler on October 28, 2009, 07:29:37 AM
This is anotha one I ain't see til after I already saw the later ones. Almost couldn't believe he had a bag over his head instead of a mask. And Jason is tiny in part 2. He even gets hurt by kicks to the nuts n shit like that. But Jason v Ginny is 1 of the best final confrontations in any of the slasher movies. She puts up a good physical and psychological fight. Just wish Paul's death was shown, even if they were gonna have Ginny survive. Wheelchair death scene is classic too.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Starman on October 28, 2009, 05:00:19 PM
ok i got question (probably there answer in the post that i didnt read cause im lazy to long page anyway) i just done watching in my dvd on friday night and is really jason have hair?.... or just in ginny's dream sequence? in next part 3 jason is bald if so probably jason shave his hair or something?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: mangler on October 28, 2009, 07:42:10 PM
ok i got question (probably there answer in the post that i didnt read cause im lazy to long page anyway) i just done watching in my dvd on friday night and is really jason have hair?.... or just in ginny's dream sequence? in next part 3 jason is bald if so probably jason shave his hair or something?

He got hair and a beard at the end of part 2. He also got the machete in his shoulder at the end, but is pullin it out in 3. They don't explain what happens between the end of 2 and the start of 3. I always assumed Paul got killed and Ginny survived somehow. Maybe Jason knew wit a survivor seein his face, she'd have cops lookin around. So he hit up the cabin for a shave, haircut, and machete removal before rollin out to Higgins Haven.  :D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Starman on October 29, 2009, 04:26:32 PM
what about that since jeff died by jason..what with do his truck? probably ted will keep it?

jeff & sandra is the hilarious character! ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on October 31, 2009, 12:02:27 PM
Still pissed after 28 years> No nude scene for Sandra.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 31, 2009, 12:34:19 PM
Still pissed after 28 years> No nude scene for Sandra.


for reals.. i bet she had perect nipple placement too  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SwanKong on October 31, 2009, 01:05:41 PM
She had lots of things that were in perfect placement.  ;)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Giganta on November 24, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
Terri was the hot girl in this movie. I would love to meet her. awesome body


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Starman on November 24, 2009, 04:39:04 PM
Terri was the hot girl in this movie. I would love to meet her. awesome body

i agree and i like that character also with scott too that who crazy about her lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MrsV on November 30, 2009, 08:12:39 PM
That was Terri that Scott liked.

I never quite got the big deal about Sondra though...her hair was nothing but frizz! LOL! Vicki was cute and she still looks amazing.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 30, 2009, 08:54:19 PM
agreed.. vicky is scrumpious these days  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on December 01, 2009, 09:03:05 PM
Vicki was a Cripple Whore. Or groupie. LOL. No offense, the dude wasn't really handicapped.:)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 01, 2009, 10:34:00 PM
Vicki was a Cripple Whore. Or groupie. LOL. No offense, the dude wasn't really handicapped.:)

thats a good angle .. a criplle "in training".. gets all the girls.. ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: wheres paul on January 08, 2010, 09:01:52 AM
The best part of 2 is Jason's cabin.  It's probably the only time Jason appeared human, they even included a toilet. 

I'm sure you guys have read the novelizations ... in the novels (part 1 & 2) you get a real sense of what Jason did while in the woods, being part alive and part dead (having not fully regenerated since the drowning).  He ate wild animals that he caught in traps and he had a need for sleep and shelter (the cabin).  Humanizing Jason, even though is part alive/dead, makes the story more interesting ... that is why I like parts 1-4 more than 5-FreddyvJason. 

I never understood why they never went back to Jason's cabin in the later sequels.

I had a theory years back that the cops on the day after the end of part 2/beginning of part 3 discovered the shack and the remains of everything and possibly tore it down. Although in part 6 you do see Jason carrying Sissy's headless body "somewhere" as he walks past the kids cabin. Wonder if he thought his shack was still there?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on January 08, 2010, 02:16:01 PM
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I had a theory years back that the cops on the day after the end of part 2/beginning of part 3 discovered the shack and the remains of everything and possibly tore it down.

That's a good theory! And, probably what would have happened. However, if Jason lived so deep in the woods and was never found before, how could the cops have found it at that point? I guess Paul was able to find it, so why not the cops.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SwanKong on January 08, 2010, 03:39:08 PM
That's a good theory! And, probably what would have happened. However, if Jason lived so deep in the woods and was never found before, how could the cops have found it at that point? I guess Paul was able to find it, so why not the cops.

"Deep in the woods" is a relative term.  What one person thinks is deep in the woods is downtown Main street to another.  Judging by how long it took the cop in part 2 to chase him from the road to his cabin was not very far.  I bet in the autumn and winter you could almost see Jason's cabin from some point on the road. Plus Jason would have fairly visible trails going to and from the cabin in various directions.  Supposing the cops car remained in that spot on the road, a quick search of the area would either happen upon a trail (IE paths of least resistance) leading to the cabin or the cabin itself. 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: wheres paul on January 09, 2010, 12:00:55 PM
I would love if the powers that be could've somehow tied the 5 year interval between parts 1-2 and the police investigative work (tips, foot work, etc, etc) of the week of the Crystal Lake Massacre somehow onto the new DE DVDs as its own backstory.

Would've been real cool. I once had an off the wall theory that Paul was a Satanist and a distant Voorhees relative helping set the kills for Jason in part 2 and his disappearance was him "getting out of there" before he could be tied to the murders.  A stretch I know, but I love to dabble in the "what ifs..." of the series. Peace!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jameslofton on January 10, 2010, 10:08:39 PM
Best film in the series IMO.
I agree. I actually think it's one of the greatest horror films ever made. One of the best slashers and while Black Christmas is superior in certain aspects and basically started it all, I place this film up there with it, Halloween, and the criminally underrated film The Burning.

I just love the realism of this film, which all the other entries in the series lack to varying degrees. Jason is a real person in this, which makes it much scarier than a 7 foot tall zombie being struck by lightning. The sack makes him so much more creepier than any hockey mask ever will.

Off topic, but your font color is terrible. You're one of the active posters here and a moderator obviously, but while you are a good poster I simply scroll past any long post of yours because I'm not straining my eyes to such a degree. You should lighten up that font a bit.




Hope this doesn't sound too silly, but I am curious:

When Vickie goes back to the cabin to "freshen up" for Mark, I don't really understand what she did that was any more appealing?  She changed from black undies to dark brown?  I don't get it...

 ::)
A woman putting on a clean pair of panties is a foreign concept to you?  :P


Nonsense. Someone who is 'very human' doesn't simply get up from a machete blade driven that deeply into their shoulder - especially their shoulder, given the fact that the shoulder muscles control virtually all upper arm movement and are chock-full of vital veins and arteries.
I guess you've never heard of adrenaline, or the fact you can receive non fatal wounds in that area of your body.

Oh wait, you're that guy who thinks there's no 'reveal' of the killer in part 5.......

I bet a thesis on this series written by you would be comedy gold.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on January 17, 2010, 07:38:59 PM
Watched this one again last week.  Ralph dying pisses me off. Cheap. Still laugh at fat cop, but REALLY laughed at wheelchair death this time.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Dizzy on January 17, 2010, 08:52:05 PM
Still pissed after 28 years> No nude scene for Sandra.

I fully concur!  >:(

Marta Kober actually did a nude scene for something a few years later, but I can’t seem find it (or even photos of it) anywhere.

Nowadays, she’s had lots of trouble in her life…. heard she got arrested in the last couple years and went AWOL from her family.   :(


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FinalChapter on January 27, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
I didnt look through all 15 pages of this topic, but is there a section or topic that we talk about the uncut scenes.. any proof outside of that vhs copy maybe from the workers on the makeup having a copy. Any proof?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on February 03, 2010, 01:27:20 AM
I still don't get why Ralph would've been out at the training camp. He KNEW it wasn't safe out there. His getting killed sucked.

Love the daytime scenes in this one. They have a colorful look. Especially down at the "beach" and in the woods.  My all-time fave of the series.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on February 04, 2010, 01:33:14 PM
I still don't get why Ralph would've been out at the training camp. He KNEW it wasn't safe out there. His getting killed sucked.

Love the daytime scenes in this one. They have a colorful look. Especially down at the "beach" and in the woods.  My all-time fave of the series.

Ralph did the same thing in part 1,warned people not to go there because its doomed but still rides his bike all the way out there?To much moon shine...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: HorrorFan13 on February 04, 2010, 09:29:58 PM
haha yeah that would make sense


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 07, 2010, 03:30:20 PM
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Still pissed after 28 years> No nude scene for Sandra

She did have a nice rack, BUT then again, we got a nice full frontal scene, so I can't complain. Friday 2 delivered on ALL the criteria.

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I didnt look through all 15 pages of this topic, but is there a section or topic that we talk about the uncut scenes

Probably. ;D Any footage that once existed pretty much no longer does. The legendary photo on the back of the VHS tape was a still photo and never shot on moving footage.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on February 07, 2010, 03:56:16 PM
ya that really sucks.. 2 being my favorite as well...id love to see some unseen footage.. one can hope..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on February 09, 2010, 04:12:56 PM
it really does i would love to see that double impalement scene in its entirety


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on February 14, 2010, 05:21:25 PM
This one is one of the best to indulge in adult beverages while viewing.


Title: 'This one is one of the best to indulge in adult beverages while viewing.'
Post by: Sir Snooty Tooty on February 14, 2010, 08:40:45 PM
Hell yes. My friends and use to have this game in watching Part 2. By the time they got to the bar you had to have as many empty beer bottles as Ted did right before Ginny and Paul left. When they left the one one who had the most over won. Good times. 8)

About the cut footage, who knows really. I know IMDb isn't the most reliable venue but I've read on there several times that supposedly Carl Fullerton has some of the footage. I'm not saying one way or the other if that's true or not but that's what I heard.

I think both Paramount and Steve Miner where being lazy on the DVD for 2. Look at My Bloody Valentine.



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on February 21, 2010, 11:33:31 PM
I just don't get why Miner is so distant to the series now. Didn't participate in '04 or last year's DVD releases of 2 or 3. But he makes those shitty DAY OF THE DEAD redos.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on February 22, 2010, 01:30:04 AM
Well Miner is booked for the 30th Reunion in August, so if he does indeed attend and talk to fans, maybe he will start to lighten up and embrace the franchise.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on March 17, 2010, 11:08:37 PM
Yeah, Miner made 2 of the best in the series.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on March 23, 2010, 11:41:04 AM
For years he has had the attidude that he is "too good" for the Friday the 13th movies. After he made Halloween H20 and Lake Placid, he never wanted to talk about Friday the 13th Parts 2 and 3. Since those days, the only film he made that I know of it the direct to video remake of Day of the Dead.

Friday the 13th Part 2 is by far Steve's best movie.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on March 25, 2010, 07:24:00 PM
For years he has had the attidude that he is "too good" for the Friday the 13th movies. After he made Halloween H20 and Lake Placid, he never wanted to talk about Friday the 13th Parts 2 and 3. Since those days, the only film he made that I know of it the direct to video remake of Day of the Dead.

Friday the 13th Part 2 is by far Steve's best movie.

100% agreed.... his movies seemed to move in a downward direction(although i love H20)..... his remake of DOTD being the weakest..... friday 13 pt 2 had it all...suspense, humor, gore, and a GREAT cast that  was very relatable.. imo thats what really made this film great.. was all the actors/actreses..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on March 31, 2010, 12:01:02 PM
The thing about his Day of the Dead is that it was an enjoyable modern zombie movie. It just wasn't Day of the Dead.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 09, 2010, 01:50:24 PM
this was the very 1st horror movie i ever saw !!
 i was about 6 , and we actualy WERE at a camp in the woods . it scared the sh*t out of me , and is STILL my fav horror flick of all time !!!

i think it's the best  and most 'real' , of all the sequels ....
Jason , with the potatoe sack , is awesome !!! Amy Steele , is by far , the best heroine in the series ..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 09, 2010, 08:37:50 PM
this was the very 1st horror movie i ever saw !!
 i was about 6 , and we actualy WERE at a camp in the woods . it scared the sh*t out of me , and is STILL my fav horror flick of all time !!!

i think it's the best  and most 'real' , of all the sequels ....
Jason , with the potatoe sack , is awesome !!! Amy Steele , is by far , the best heroine in the series ..


haha yeah that must have been somethin freaky to be at camp.. in the woods... and to see THAT off all movies lol.. i i also agree with the potato sack..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 10, 2010, 01:44:40 PM
this was the very 1st horror movie i ever saw !!
 i was about 6 , and we actualy WERE at a camp in the woods . it scared the sh*t out of me , and is STILL my fav horror flick of all time !!!

i think it's the best  and most 'real' , of all the sequels ....
Jason , with the potatoe sack , is awesome !!! Amy Steele , is by far , the best heroine in the series ..

When I went to PA for a week long sleepover camp, we were in the woods and on a lake. Of course they showed us Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter. Some of the kids were scared shitless. At night when they turned the lights out I would do chchchhahaha and I made someone cry. At the time, as a kid it was funny. Now-a-days it was pretty messed up of me.

Anyway, I had a great time at that camp. By the time I went there I was already a huge fan of the series.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 12, 2010, 07:43:04 AM
thanks for the replies , jimmyd , and Rich !!
i guess we all have our memories of these movies !? the F13 series is awesome , and l love them all....

i've played lead guitar in a local rock band for years , and we were called " Voorhees " lol  ...
the only one of these i've seen in the theatre , was the F13 remake .
we went about 4 weeks after the opening , and there were literally only 4 people in the audience !!  it was great .., i had Jason , almost all to myself ........can't wait for the part 2 remake !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 13, 2010, 01:24:29 PM
I have another one for you. I may have even shared this one with this board but I will again anyway.

when I was in the 5th or 6th grade my friends and I watched my copy of Jason Goes to Hell on VHS at my friend Joe's house. I also had a hockey mask in my backpack. After the movie I put it on and scared the shit out of our friend Larry who actually ran home. :D It was so funny.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: CmpBldHottie on April 13, 2010, 03:40:06 PM
Best Friday the 13th movie ever!! Its the first f13th movie i remember watching as a kid, and i loved it ever since!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Starman on April 13, 2010, 04:00:49 PM
Best Friday the 13th movie ever!! Its the first f13th movie i remember watching as a kid, and i loved it ever since!

nice :) this movie is great than first one. i got this dvd (probably 2002 i think) and this is my first time i saw it and im glad i like i guess :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 13, 2010, 11:42:47 PM
Best Friday the 13th movie ever!! Its the first f13th movie i remember watching as a kid, and i loved it ever since!

ya... can never get tired of this one... i love how there are unanswered questions.. i love ginny.. well the whole cast for that matter...the vibe the movie gives is almost indescribable.... even during the non-scary parts.. theres this.. dark underlying feeling.. that you know somethin bads gonna go down...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 15, 2010, 12:10:14 AM
Watched it again  Tuesday night. Addictive. I think I've watched it 7 times this year! The feel is genuinely creepy,  especially in 1,2 and 4.
LOVE the cast and the entire movie. Indeed the best of the series.

Sometimes I wish it would just start with Jeff and Sandra coming into town. The prologue drags sometimes. That's my ONLY complaint.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 17, 2010, 09:08:06 PM
i like the prologue.. i smoke during it  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on April 18, 2010, 01:11:18 AM

I love the prologue as well. Though I don't smoke during it. What effects does it add Jimmy? ;)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: CmpBldHottie on April 18, 2010, 08:36:10 PM
What does paul say as him and ginny are going downstairs towards the end before jason attacks? "the kitchen lights still on , must be ..... "


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on April 19, 2010, 11:33:04 AM
I seen this movie so many times,yet it never bores me.This movie is already one of the best in the franchise could you image if the mpaa didnt cut everything to hell?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 19, 2010, 06:53:34 PM
I seen this movie so many times,yet it never bores me.This movie is already one of the best in the franchise could you image if the mpaa didnt cut everything to hell?


for reals.... i think then we would have THE definitive  friday 13th flick.. pt 2 is my fav already.. but to see it in its original intended form...would be.. AWESOME...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 21, 2010, 11:53:11 AM
The MPAA did a butcher job on it, but in a way we still got the barbed wire choke and the machette to the face scene fully intact, so all wasn't lost. Also, sometimes less is more. I liked how the scene with the butcher knife kill didn't show that much. It made it feel like a Hitchcock scene.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 21, 2010, 07:46:04 PM
i agree that less can be more sometimes.. and it does fit into this film at parts.. the knife scene being one i agree.. and to be honest.. as much as i would LOVE to see the double spear kill.. the fact that we dont see it does leave it to your mind to picture the rest...which can be portrayed any way you want it to.. which is kool....


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 22, 2010, 11:24:32 AM
I really liked the set design in this. I wish they later movies, such as Part 7, would have revisited the shack and showed it in an even more run down state with maybe only a skull laying on the table.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 25, 2010, 10:40:14 PM
I agree with that post. Would've been cool to see the shack again. Part 2 is my fave location.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on April 27, 2010, 08:20:36 AM
It would have been really cool to see the shack again. I watched Part 2 last night when I went to bed. I love that movie.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 27, 2010, 10:40:23 PM
The BEST in the series.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 03, 2010, 08:03:24 PM

for reals.... i think then we would have THE definitive  friday 13th flick.. pt 2 is my fav already.. but to see it in its original intended form...would be.. AWESOME...

that would make me act like an 8 year old at Christmas !!!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Shifty on May 09, 2010, 10:39:48 PM
Part 2 never disappoints. Popped it in today and had a fun time with it. This movie just has so much going for it - Crazy Ralph, Fat Cop's slow speed pursuit, Sack-head Jason, the 'Did that broad just piss herself?' scene, Wheels' death (which is near the top of my list of best F13th deaths), a good amount of suspense, and a surprisingly solid cast of characters. I also like the somewhat open-ended ending in regards to Paul and what really happened to Ginny after she got back to the cabin after seemingly finishing Jason.

Changed my avatar because of this movie too. Sack-head Jason for life!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on May 10, 2010, 12:55:16 PM
Ah yes, Part 2, one of the few sequels better than its predecessor.

The opening sequence is great. It gives motivation to the Jason character and makes the audience understand his actions. It sets up the notion that this is all revenge for his mother's death. He is so determined to get his revenge that he follows and stalks Alice a la Michael Myers. Really, Alice's kill is the only kill that makes sense in the entire franchise.

Jason's a legend, but the filmmakers give credence to the legend: Jason has a home, and even a little toilet. He steals what he needs and lives off of wild animals and vegetation. At this point, Jason is human and believable. I also love his look (the flannel shirt and overalls) but the mask confuses me. I love the potato sack look, don't get me wrong, but why would a demented man living alone in the woods hide his face? Is Jason so ashamed of his looks that even he can't stand it?

Ginny is a formidable foe, but something tells me her character was trimmed in the script. By the time she puts on the sweater and tricks Jason, we, at least on our first viewing, almost forget that she is a child psychologist. I think the Ginny character could have been fleshed out a little more, but she is still the best "final girl" in the Friday films with an almost Laurie Strode-like quality to her.

The kills are pretty good in this one, even without Savini. Mark's machete to the face is one of my all time favorites. I also like the slow intimacy of Vicki's death. Jason takes his time with her, almost as if he enjoys watching her scream.

This is also one of the few Friday films that's actually scary. The movie is relentless with jump out of your seat moments seemingly every few minutes. There's also an ominous dark mood that hangs over the entire film, slowly building the suspense for the first hour. It's almost Hitchcokian in that regard. Miner did a wonderful job.

Whether it was Steve Dascawicz or Warrington Gillete, I am not sure, but the overall performance of Jason was superb. He moved like an overgrown man-child, a motif I believe the later films, until Jason Takes Manhattan, ignored. Later on, Chris Durand's movements as The Shape in Halloween: H20 would remind me of Jason in Part 2.

Overall, I think Part 2 is a wonderful film and it works on so many levels. It's my favorite film in the franchise, and I wish the later sequels, instead of mostly following the path blazed by Part III, would have continued in the same vein as Part 2.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 10, 2010, 04:53:04 PM
Ah yes, Part 2, one of the few sequels better than its predecessor.

The opening sequence is great. It gives motivation to the Jason character and makes the audience understand his actions. It sets up the notion that this is all revenge for his mother's death. He is so determined to get his revenge that he follows and stalks Alice a la Michael Myers. Really, Alice's kill is the only kill that makes sense in the entire franchise.

Jason's a legend, but the filmmakers give credence to the legend: Jason has a home, and even a little toilet. He steals what he needs and lives off of wild animals and vegetation. At this point, Jason is human and believable. I also love his look (the flannel shirt and overalls) but the mask confuses me. I love the potato sack look, don't get me wrong, but why would a demented man living alone in the woods hide his face? Is Jason so ashamed of his looks that even he can't stand it?

Ginny is a formidable foe, but something tells me her character was trimmed in the script. By the time she puts on the sweater and tricks Jason, we, at least on our first viewing, almost forget that she is a child psychologist. I think the Ginny character could have been fleshed out a little more, but she is still the best "final girl" in the Friday films with an almost Laurie Strode-like quality to her.

The kills are pretty good in this one, even without Savini. Mark's machete to the face is one of my all time favorites. I also like the slow intimacy of Vicki's death. Jason takes his time with her, almost as if he enjoys watching her scream.

This is also one of the few Friday films that's actually scary. The movie is relentless with jump out of your seat moments seemingly every few minutes. There's also an ominous dark mood that hangs over the entire film, slowly building the suspense for the first hour. It's almost Hitchcokian in that regard. Miner did a wonderful job.

Whether it was Steve Dascawicz or Warrington Gillete, I am not sure, but the overall performance of Jason was superb. He moved like an overgrown man-child, a motif I believe the later films, until Jason Takes Manhattan, ignored. Later on, Chris Durand's movements as The Shape in Halloween: H20 would remind me of Jason in Part 2.

Overall, I think Part 2 is a wonderful film and it works on so many levels. It's my favorite film in the franchise, and I wish the later sequels, instead of mostly following the path blazed by Part III, would have continued in the same vein as Part 2.
pt 2 is the best , in my book !!
i really like your comments on it !!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on May 10, 2010, 08:23:25 PM
Ah yes, Part 2, one of the few sequels better than its predecessor.

The opening sequence is great. It gives motivation to the Jason character and makes the audience understand his actions. It sets up the notion that this is all revenge for his mother's death. He is so determined to get his revenge that he follows and stalks Alice a la Michael Myers. Really, Alice's kill is the only kill that makes sense in the entire franchise.

Jason's a legend, but the filmmakers give credence to the legend: Jason has a home, and even a little toilet. He steals what he needs and lives off of wild animals and vegetation. At this point, Jason is human and believable. I also love his look (the flannel shirt and overalls) but the mask confuses me. I love the potato sack look, don't get me wrong, but why would a demented man living alone in the woods hide his face? Is Jason so ashamed of his looks that even he can't stand it?





Alices kill really is the only understandable one... i can slightly understand why with the victims of pt 2.. but why pt 3-4?..   guess hes just on the run at that point and leavin a trail of bodies for the cope to follow  ;D...



as for the potato sack in 2... who knows.. maybe he decided to put it on when he started stalking around the councilor training camp??


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 12, 2010, 10:24:54 AM


Alices kill really is the only understandable one... i can slightly understand why with the victims of pt 2.. but why pt 3-4?..   guess hes just on the run at that point and leavin a trail of bodies for the cope to follow  ;D...



as for the potato sack in 2... who knows.. maybe he decided to put it on when he started stalking around the councilor training camp??
a pretty good guess jimmy !
i have the place to myself tonight , i think pt2 on the 50" plasma sounds like a plan !!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on May 22, 2010, 04:49:29 AM
Friday the 13th Part 2, to me, it just as good as the original, but I wouldn't say better. Despite the popularity of the Jason character and the image of the mask, I think the first two movies are the best by far, and the third and fourth are probably the second best.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on May 22, 2010, 07:29:32 AM
I think in Jason's simple brain the sack is just worn so that noone will recognize him. Seems to me like something a child (or a man with a childs brain) would do to make it easier to "sneak up" on someone.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 22, 2010, 05:48:38 PM
Friday the 13th Part 2, to me, it just as good as the original, but I wouldn't say better. Despite the popularity of the Jason character and the image of the mask, I think the first two movies are the best by far, and the third and fourth are probably the second best.

again Rich , i have to agree !
i actually like all the F13th films , however the 1st 4 were pretty neat .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on May 24, 2010, 03:02:18 PM
Parts 1 thru 4 are the best. Then 6 and 7.  JGTH thru FVSJ were crap. Redo was fun. Best since 7.


The atmosphere of the first 4 is genuine.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 28, 2010, 07:53:25 PM
Parts 1 thru 4 are the best. Then 6 and 7.  JGTH thru FVSJ were crap. Redo was fun. Best since 7.


The atmosphere of the first 4 is genuine.
i like the last line of your post , ProwlerChad .
"genuine" is a great word to describe the first 4 in the series .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on May 29, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
The first two? Genuine? Sure. Three and Four? Genuine? Genuine crap maybe.

The first two have the camp motif and they both have Ralph. Part 2 feels like a sequel to the original.

3 and 4 are just dumb teenage kids getting hacked to pieces. I'm sorry, sometimes it seems like there's parts 1 and 2. And then, 3 through 8 is a whole other series.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 29, 2010, 04:39:21 PM
Batty , i just replied to your post re : pt5
i thought the first 4 were great . obviously pt 1&2 win hands down , but 3&4 had Jason and a silmilar-ish feel to them .

starting with #5 , the series took a nose dive IMO , and had increasingly bizzare stories/plots . (imposters, frankenstein, ESP, moonwalking , etc....)




Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on May 29, 2010, 06:50:03 PM
Frankenstein? I don't know what you're referring to. But, I appreciate the later movies, and that includes the New Line ones. Just a difference of taste really. Jason Goes to Hell is one of my favorites, while I think Part 3 is just plain garbage.

*shrugs*


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 29, 2010, 07:01:17 PM
Frankenstein? I don't know what you're referring to. But, I appreciate the later movies, and that includes the New Line ones. Just a difference of taste really. Jason Goes to Hell is one of my favorites, while I think Part 3 is just plain garbage.

*shrugs*
the 'Frankie' reference was something i read on here a while back from an older post . meaning the lightning brings the monster to life....pt6
and truth be told , i like ALL the F13th films . just some for different reasons , like you said , a difference in taste .

nothing personal from me at all my friend , just a healthy debate !
cheers bro....:)

 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on June 07, 2010, 12:05:40 PM
Frankenstein? I don't know what you're referring to. But, I appreciate the later movies, and that includes the New Line ones. Just a difference of taste really. Jason Goes to Hell is one of my favorites, while I think Part 3 is just plain garbage.

*shrugs*

One word? WHAT?!

Anyway, yeah the first two are basically the original and 3 and 4 are basically the first sequel. Friday the 13th really is all about the first four. After that I still love them, but none of the series came even close to the first four. They are really the best of the series.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 07, 2010, 12:53:44 PM
I also agree that the first four films in the F13th series are the best, but Part 3 ranks a little bit lower on my list compared to the other three, especially Part 4 which is a definite favorite of mine.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 22, 2010, 07:44:19 PM
Gonna watch this one again over vacation. Its going with us to the beach.
Ginny and the chainsaw= Hot. :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 22, 2010, 09:07:08 PM
Ginny and the chainsaw= Hot. :)

haha I love that scene, and especially when Jason is backing away doing a seizure movement with his arms. I can only wonder what he's thinking "This bitch is crazy! Get that chainsaw away Noooo!!"


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on June 23, 2010, 01:35:57 PM
haha I love that scene, and especially when Jason is backing away doing a seizure movement with his arms. I can only wonder what he's thinking "This bitch is crazy! Get that chainsaw away Noooo!!"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the only time in the series we see Jason a little scared. Right? I mean Kane Hodder-Jason would have grabbed her arm, pushed it away so that the chainsaw could not hurt him, and then ripped her arm out of its socket. Then, he'd do that big heaving chest breath thing, turn his head, and then move his body in the direction in which he just moved his head...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 23, 2010, 01:47:07 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the only time in the series we see Jason a little scared. Right?

I think your right Batty but Jason in Parts 3 and 4 did some things which were also kind of unusual for Jason. For example in Part 3 he leaps to get away from the oncoming van, and groans in pain, grabbing his knee when Chris stabs him. Also in Part 4 when Trish has the machete and he is trying to get near her, he dodges the blows and looks like he also shields himself with his arms.

So before Jason became officially undead zombie he did a lot of quirky things but I like to think that it was his human to killing machine phase.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 23, 2010, 03:28:32 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the only time in the series we see Jason a little scared. Right? I mean Kane Hodder-Jason would have grabbed her arm, pushed it away so that the chainsaw could not hurt him, and then ripped her arm out of its socket. Then, he'd do that big heaving chest breath thing, turn his head, and then move his body in the direction in which he just moved his head...

I think he might have been a little scarred when chris was stab crazy coming out of the closet


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 23, 2010, 03:41:11 PM
I think he might have been a little scarred when chris was stab crazy coming out of the closet

Ah that's right, I remember now he does start to back away as Chris is coming at him with the knife before she buries it in his knee. Had that been Kane Hodder as Jason I know he would stand there and let her stab him like the badass he is, but it's perfectly normal for "Human Jason" to react the way he did.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on June 23, 2010, 06:30:19 PM
Oh, that's right. Chris actually hands him his ass for a second there.

I guess you're right. It's post dead Jason that seems to not react to anything at all.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 23, 2010, 06:36:02 PM
Oh, that's right. Chris actually hands him his ass for a second there.


Yeah she definitely has a Norman Bates Psycho moment, because she swipes the knife left, right, the middle, and repeats until she goes in for the hit. Before Chris I don't think I've seen the lone survivor girl go that ape shit. It must have been from all that repressed anger when she bumped into him in the woods, anyways far from the topic of Part II haha.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on June 23, 2010, 06:40:38 PM
Yeah she definitely has a Norman Bates Psycho moment, because she swipes the knife left, right, the middle, and repeats until she goes in for the hit. Before Chris I don't think I've seen the lone survivor girl go that ape shit. It must have been from all that repressed anger when she bumped into him in the woods, anyways far from the topic of Part II haha.

LOL @ ape shit. Haven't heard that term in a long time.

Anyway, yeah, that's the scene I remember. They probably did it for the 3-D effect, and I seem to remember she's swiping the knife toward the camera. Then she stabs Jason and he's all, "Buwaaaaah!" Yeah, she certainly went ape shit, but Tina still puts up the best fight in the series.

What I like about Ginny though (to steer this back on topic) is that she's the only one to fight him psychologically. For lack of a better term, she fucked with his head. That was cool.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 23, 2010, 06:49:28 PM
LOL @ ape shit. Haven't heard that term in a long time.

What I like about Ginny though (to steer this back on topic) is that she's the only one to fight him psychologically. For lack of a better term, she fucked with his head. That was cool.

haha that is the first thing that came to mind when viewing her actions, and it makes sense considering her mental state at the end of the film.

I also really liked how Ginny handled Jason in the finale of the film. Didn't she say to someone, maybe Paul, that she was studying Psychology? I could of sworn it was mentioned somewhere and even in the bar scene she is talking to Paul and Ted about how the only person he ever had was his Mother so it's interesting to see someone sympathize with the killer, on a psychologist point of view.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 23, 2010, 07:09:10 PM
it was either psychology or child psychology.. i plan on watching pt2 soon.. lol i'll know then 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 23, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
it was either psychology or child psychology.. i plan on watching pt2 soon.. lol i'll know then 

Me too I haven't watched it or #3 in HD yet, and I only have another couple days of that free preview of that channel.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 23, 2010, 07:43:18 PM
well.. tonight then!!! lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 23, 2010, 07:44:49 PM
well.. tonight then!!! lol

When are you free? Did you feel the earthquake today? LOL randomly inserted off topic question...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on June 23, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
Yes, Ginny was studying child psychology in school. Paul mentions it when he fixes her car.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 23, 2010, 09:38:05 PM
I'm finally watching it in HD now...the beginning was a little grainey until Paul's story...but its a lot brighter, and I noticed in the scene where Ginny tells Paul there is someone in the room, you can't see anyone at first. So how did she know. He was hiding down below something.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 24, 2010, 03:24:54 PM
I dunno if I like HD all that much. My TWIN PEAKS box set shows WAAAY more brightness than the t.v. and VHS versions did. Sometimes things can look TOO bright, especially in horror.

Ginny is still my fave heroine in the series.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on June 24, 2010, 10:37:22 PM
Ginny is still my fave heroine in the series.

Word.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 25, 2010, 05:58:27 PM
I dunno if I like HD all that much. My TWIN PEAKS box set shows WAAAY more brightness than the t.v. and VHS versions did. Sometimes things can look TOO bright, especially in horror.

Ginny is still my fave heroine in the series.
regarding the last line of your post ?
Ginny has been my fav. all along !!!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 27, 2010, 06:14:46 PM
I'm watching part 3 in HD for the first time now. And I'm right in the beginning where Ginny is on the TV...the news guy says that she has multiple stab wounds...interesting. I thought she only had the "scratch" on her leg.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 27, 2010, 06:17:11 PM
I'm watching part 3 in HD for the first time now. And I'm right in the beginning where Ginny is on the TV...the news guy says that she has multiple stab wounds...interesting. I thought she only had the "scratch" on her leg.

Multiple stab wounds? I only remember her getting that large gash in her leg from the pick-axe. Tsk..Tsk Gotta love continuity issues.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 13, 2010, 07:28:33 PM
Ted was cool. I'm glad he didn't get killed.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on July 14, 2010, 07:53:42 AM
Agreed. Fianally someone comes out on top for drinking.  :P


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on July 14, 2010, 01:38:43 PM
Agreed. Fianally someone comes out on top for drinking.  :P

Ginny was drunk and she survived as well


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on July 14, 2010, 01:48:44 PM
Ginny was drunk and she survived as well

Maybe that explains why she lets herself go in the pee scene..damn brew. I don't think she was that far gone as Ted, and in the novel he stayed behind because of the waitress who had an eye on him.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on July 14, 2010, 02:03:30 PM
Maybe that explains why she lets herself go in the pee scene..damn brew. I don't think she was that far gone as Ted, and in the novel he stayed behind because of the waitress who had an eye on him.

Hey that does make good sence,cause im sure she had to pee when they got back to the house-


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on July 14, 2010, 04:24:05 PM
Ah yes...I bet her bladder was full.

I guess if Jasosn IS going to kill you too...being drunk is probably best.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 18, 2010, 03:00:58 AM
lol that does make perfect sense... her bladder was full of beer.. but .. this is just me.. even if i peed.. and realized it.. id try like hell to just let a little out.. so it would only really absorb into my jeans.. not just say "opp! i peed!" and just let loose all over the fuckin floor haha...damn im readin into this way too far..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on July 18, 2010, 04:07:49 PM
lol that does make perfect sense... her bladder was full of beer.. but .. this is just me.. even if i peed.. and realized it.. id try like hell to just let a little out.. so it would only really absorb into my jeans.. not just say "opp! i peed!" and just let loose all over the fuckin floor haha...damn im readin into this way too far..

LOl its a good point but Im not sure if females can hold there bladder like that-


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on July 18, 2010, 04:29:24 PM
LOl its a good point but Im not sure if females can hold there bladder like that-


Yeah there is no way she could, guys can hold their bladder much longer and not to mention I bet she was scared shitless. The only thing that bugs me is that her pants aren't wet afterwords and not to mention those pants would chafe like the fires of hell.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 18, 2010, 06:49:25 PM
 I bet Ted NAILED that waitress. LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 18, 2010, 06:59:21 PM
I bet Ted NAILED that waitress. LOL

thats why he held onto those bottles... foreplay.... :-X


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 18, 2010, 07:04:13 PM
He told her to keep the uniform on. Partially.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Zombiemaniac on July 23, 2010, 12:52:17 AM
I don't think it's a good idea to get drunk when returning to a haunted camp Ginny had  awareness that Jason could been lurking around the camp so why even bother getting
drunk when there maybe some angry hellbent zombie slashing kids at the camp you're at
I mean she wasn't heavily drunk like some college frat girl but she wasn't sober and steady either like every horror movie heroine should be maybe i'm just nitpicking but that's JMO


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on July 23, 2010, 02:39:32 AM
I don't think it's a good idea to get drunk when returning to a haunted camp Ginny had  awareness that Jasion could been lurking around the camp so why even bother getting
drunk when there maybe some angry hellbent zombie slashing kids at the camp you're at
I mean she wasn't heavily drunk like some college frat girl but she wasn't sober and steady either like every horror movie heroine should be maybe i'm just nitpicking but that's JMO

Well in that essence it's nice because it makes the characters much more realistic. Compared to a final girl who is a virgin, wears white, and does absolutely no wrong..that would be cliche and boring. It's nice though to see characters like Laurie in Halloween smoking a joint or Ginny drinking in a bear. I'd rather see someone who would be believable and is not an angel embodiment. To nitpick myself, Jason wasn't a hellbent zombie in Part 2, just a crazed and deformed man in the woods.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Zombiemaniac on July 23, 2010, 04:45:43 AM
Well in that essence it's nice because it makes the characters much more realistic. Compared to a final girl who is a virgin, wears white, and does absolutely no wrong..that would be cliche and boring. It's nice though to see characters like Laurie in Halloween smoking a joint or Ginny drinking in a bear. I'd rather see someone who would be believable and is not an angel embodiment. To nitpick myself, Jason wasn't a hellbent zombie in Part 2, just a crazed and deformed man in the woods.
Jason as a boy drowned in the lake and he came back to life somehow so he would fit in to the category as undead and inplus zombies don't always have to be creatures with low intelligence who want to spill you're guts Jason may not eat people alive but he did arise from the bottom of crystal lake which would make him at least a undead being.  
 
About the  "virginal, innocent girl"  that character aspect doesn't bother me because there have been horror films were the final girl where was a virgin but she was imperfect because she was a female dog at times and she was anti social and not exactly friendly smoking and drinking doesn't make the final girl imperfect but character traits and actions do


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 23, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Yeah..although JV "drowned" as a boy....most like to think he washed up ashore somewhere on the other side of the lake and lived off of wild animals and vegetation..that he was still somewhat alive...with the ability of regenertation...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on July 23, 2010, 11:26:16 AM
Jason as a boy drowned in the lake and he came back to life somehow so he would fit in to the category as undead and inplus zombies don't always have to be creatures with low intelligence who want to spill you're guts Jason may not eat people alive but he did arise from the bottom of crystal lake which would make him at least a undead being.  
 

The way I look at this theory is that Jason was caught in a sort of limbo between life and death, he wasn't dead but not alive either, hence why he can handle the pain more as the sequels go on. Others have a theory that he did drown in the lake and he returns but he still thinks he is alive, hence why he would think he still has to eat, use the bathroom etc. But there was absolutely no need for him to, and it was only because he remembers doing those things while he was still alive. The same thing goes for when he is hurt and grunts in pain, he may think that it hurts him but it doesn't really, it is just something he remembered that if he were still alive it would be something he would do.

It's not until Part 6 that he is truly dead, and 2-4 he is a conundrum plain and simple.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Zombiemaniac on July 23, 2010, 12:55:10 PM
The way I look at this theory is that Jason was caught in a sort of limbo between life and death, he wasn't dead but not alive either, hence why he can handle the pain more as the sequels go on. Others have a theory that he did drown in the lake and he returns but he still thinks he is alive, hence why he would think he still has to eat, use the bathroom etc. But there was absolutely no need for him to, and it was only because he remembers doing those things while he was still alive. The same thing goes for when he is hurt and grunts in pain, he may think that it hurts him but it doesn't really, it is just something he remembered that if he were still alive it would be something he would do.

It's not until Part 6 that he is truly dead, and 2-4 he is a conundrum plain and simple.


Would you contemplate in the remake he was alive and human or dead and zombie like?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on July 23, 2010, 02:36:12 PM

Would you contemplate in the remake he was alive and human or dead and zombie like?

I think that in the remake he is definitely alive and human, deformed yes but not stupid. In the remake he is smart, fast, and has the basic training of Rambo, if not to his level already. He definitely had practice doing what he does, and isn't just a man living off the land, he is a trained killer in the woods and an expert marksman as we saw when he shot the bow.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Zombiemaniac on July 24, 2010, 06:00:10 PM
Did ginny's boyfriend and camp counselor Paul die in this film? I liked his character and i guess the writers didn't want have the girl survives guy trend like in the remake, part 7, and Jason Vs Freddy


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on July 24, 2010, 06:02:30 PM
Did ginny's boyfriend and camp counselor Paul die in this film? I liked his character and i guess the writers didn't want have the girl survives guy trend like in the remake, part 7, and Jason Vs Freddy

From what I heard the actor who played Paul walked off the set, so his disappearance from the film is ambiguous. I think that it can be up to the viewer to decide if he lived or died.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on July 24, 2010, 06:04:22 PM
Did ginny's boyfriend and camp counselor Paul die in this film? I liked his character and i guess the writers didn't want have the girl survives guy trend like in the remake, part 7, and Jason Vs Freddy

Yeah its said that he died,Just doesnt show it-but the end is a dream right so how did he die?I know its been talked about many many times


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 3timesbefore on August 03, 2010, 01:27:59 AM
Whenever I watch Part 2 I'm struck by how much of a campfire tale it really is, with slasher elements thrown in of course. But that was how the original was, and that's why it was important to have Mrs. Voorhees doing all those things after she killed Barry and Claudette like setting fires, poisoning the water supply, and whatever else she may have done in that 20+ year period. A campfire tale is all about mysterious, sinister things that keep happening every so often and nobody has any idea who or what is doing them. That's why I think the remake did the campfire aspect of it a disservice by having Mrs. Voorhees go berserk right after Jason's...incident. No more 20 years of campfire fuel.

But with Part 2 the campfire tale is literally the story of the little boy who either drowned or vanished in 1957, and all the horrible things done in his name ever since. When Paul tells the story, you've got to wonder if Jason was nearby listening in the darkness. What did he think of it all? Could he comprehend how larger than life he already was to the area?

There's also a nice mystery as to exactly how long Jason has been living in the shack. If he somehow survived the drowning, that's 27 years because the 2nd film is set in 1984. That's why I tend to think he did drown because not only was he just a little boy at that time, he was at least somewhat mentally challenged. Not the best recipe for building a nice sturdy dwelling. And I don't see him just sleeping under a tree until he got big enough to do some construction work, plus him living in a camp cabin doesn't wash because there would have been no food left behind. All an 11 year old is going to be killing is rabbits and such. How can that sustain him until he's old enough to bring down deer on a regular basis? Also, eating wild animals raw in the woods is a good way to get very, very sick. Jason has got no way to get to an ER I'm fairly sure, and would he know to sterilize the meat and that lake water he must have had to drink by putting them over fire?

So if he sprang back to life when Alice did the chop-chop to his mother, that's 5 years of him getting the parts together in his new, fully grown body. Either way, you wonder what he did during those lonely years in the woods. Maybe some of his own campfire stuff before the massacre at Packanack?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 03, 2010, 09:13:49 AM
Whenever I watch Part 2 I'm struck by how much of a campfire tale it really is, with slasher elements thrown in of course. But that was how the original was, and that's why it was important to have Mrs. Voorhees doing all those things after she killed Barry and Claudette like setting fires, poisoning the water supply, and whatever else she may have done in that 20+ year period. A campfire tale is all about mysterious, sinister things that keep happening every so often and nobody has any idea who or what is doing them. That's why I think the remake did the campfire aspect of it a disservice by having Mrs. Voorhees go berserk right after Jason's...incident. No more 20 years of campfire fuel.

But with Part 2 the campfire tale is literally the story of the little boy who either drowned or vanished in 1957, and all the horrible things done in his name ever since. When Paul tells the story, you've got to wonder if Jason was nearby listening in the darkness. What did he think of it all? Could he comprehend how larger than life he already was to the area?

There's also a nice mystery as to exactly how long Jason has been living in the shack. If he somehow survived the drowning, that's 27 years because the 2nd film is set in 1984. That's why I tend to think he did drown because not only was he just a little boy at that time, he was at least somewhat mentally challenged. Not the best recipe for building a nice sturdy dwelling. And I don't see him just sleeping under a tree until he got big enough to do some construction work, plus him living in a camp cabin doesn't wash because there would have been no food left behind. All an 11 year old is going to be killing is rabbits and such. How can that sustain him until he's old enough to bring down deer on a regular basis? Also, eating wild animals raw in the woods is a good way to get very, very sick. Jason has got no way to get to an ER I'm fairly sure, and would he know to sterilize the meat and that lake water he must have had to drink by putting them over fire?

So if he sprang back to life when Alice did the chop-chop to his mother, that's 5 years of him getting the parts together in his new, fully grown body. Either way, you wonder what he did during those lonely years in the woods. Maybe some of his own campfire stuff before the massacre at Packanack?

The shack is supossed to be one of the cabins from part one,just years without maintenance-thats why the sheriff doesnt want any wonderers over at Camp Blood


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 03, 2010, 09:26:10 AM
I'm pretty sure its an endless debate whether JV built the shack or if it was a cabin from pt1....I mesh em together...it was an old run down cabin that JV fixed up with some pieces of wood/ miscellaneous things he could find :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 3timesbefore on August 03, 2010, 02:37:52 PM
The shack is supossed to be one of the cabins from part one,just years without maintenance-thats why the sheriff doesnt want any wonderers over at Camp Blood

I don't think that's supposed to be a cabin from Camp Crystal Lake. Yes, it's inside that no trespassing perimeter and close to the camp, but it doesn't really look like a typical log cabin at all. It's cobbled together from scrap wood and metal. Jason must have loaded up his truck - or Pam's Jeep - with whatever discarded junk he could find.  :D That town Annie walks through in the original, it's old timey and looks like it would have plenty of old wood lying around in backyards, side alleys and antique stores.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 03, 2010, 03:11:27 PM
Yeah Jason's shack seems to be out in the middle of nowhere, there are no other cabins surrounding it so I always figured it was cobbled together from some of the other cabins and random items he came across that he could use for housing.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 03, 2010, 03:12:48 PM
I don't think that's supposed to be a cabin from Camp Crystal Lake. Yes, it's inside that no trespassing perimeter and close to the camp, but it doesn't really look like a typical log cabin at all. It's cobbled together from scrap wood and metal. Jason must have loaded up his truck - or Pam's Jeep - with whatever discarded junk he could find.  :D That town Annie walks through in the original, it's old timey and looks like it would have plenty of old wood lying around in backyards, side alleys and antique stores.

Well yeah its a different location all together.Even the sheriff says your to close.Why would Jason need to build a shack?After the murders the camp was closed again,a perfect place for jason to live.I know it doesnt resemble the cabins from the original at all but these are low budget movies and a shack is what you end up with lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on August 03, 2010, 03:38:36 PM
I assumed Jasons shack was just some building from another time having nothing to do with the camp. Maybe from something there before that even?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 03, 2010, 04:23:48 PM
Well yeah its a different location all together.Even the sheriff says your to close.Why would Jason need to build a shack?After the murders the camp was closed again,a perfect place for jason to live.I know it doesnt resemble the cabins from the original at all but these are low budget movies and a shack is what you end up with lol

Well Jason needed some housing while living out in the woods and I don't think that he would have resorted back to the campgrounds because who knows if law enforcement was keeping tabs on the place. And by the time Pamela was dispatching the kids at Crystal Lake Jason would already have had the shack built out in the woods, he was just snatching up resources here and there to build the support for the shack so the whole thing wouldn't fall apart.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Struckworld on August 03, 2010, 04:29:24 PM
It look's like Jason Built it, because since he's been out in the woods, he probalydoesn't know how to build houses and stuff. Because he was probaly more focused on hunting and stuff, plus you can see tin sheets all stuck together, so it looks he used what he had :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 04, 2010, 03:43:12 PM
Well Jason needed some housing while living out in the woods and I don't think that he would have resorted back to the campgrounds because who knows if law enforcement was keeping tabs on the place. And by the time Pamela was dispatching the kids at Crystal Lake Jason would already have had the shack built out in the woods, he was just snatching up resources here and there to build the support for the shack so the whole thing wouldn't fall apart.

IDk,ever since he drowned the place was closed except for the few times someone tried to reopen the place.With a local cop coming every now and then it would be easy to stay hidden.I mean he was what 11 when he died?Dont think hes building skills were to great.
Even if the shack isnt camp blood its so close that people would know its there.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 04, 2010, 06:18:28 PM
I mean he was what 11 when he died?Dont think hes building skills were to great.
Even if the shack isnt camp blood its so close that people would know its there.

Well in Part 2 they state that he didn't drown in the lake, so I don't know whether to think of him as living or dead (Fan theories can differ either way) Eventually he ends up crawling out from the lake, most likely confused, and bewildered. So he survived the only way that a boy at his age could and I don't mean that he built a shack at that age, but as he grew older survival instincts kicked in and he began to live off the land.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on August 04, 2010, 06:28:56 PM
I don't think that's supposed to be a cabin from Camp Crystal Lake. Yes, it's inside that no trespassing perimeter and close to the camp, but it doesn't really look like a typical log cabin at all. It's cobbled together from scrap wood and metal. Jason must have loaded up his truck - or Pam's Jeep - with whatever discarded junk he could find.  :D That town Annie walks through in the original, it's old timey and looks like it would have plenty of old wood lying around in backyards, side alleys and antique stores.
i'm gonna agree with you on this as well .
the shack looked like it was pieced together very randomly , and just as a shelter for Jason . doesn't seem to be well constructed at all ? IMO


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 01:33:17 PM
i'm gonna agree with you on this as well .
the shack looked like it was pieced together very randomly , and just as a shelter for Jason . doesn't seem to be well constructed at all ? IMO

As the sheriff walkes upon the shack,look how big it is.It has multiple rooms and even a bathroom with a toilet.The sheriff even says that place is condemed.certain scenes inside you can see well built walls still.Even as ginny is running through the woods you can see shes comes to what is an old overgrowth road which leads her right to the cabin/shack


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 02:39:08 PM
I'm going to say that it's pretty obvious that Jason's shack is NOT a cabin from the original camp. It's a hodgepodge of sheet metal and particle board. It's not a log cabin.

Also, the camp closed down five years prior. If that were a cabin, neglected for five years, it wouldn't have looked that bad.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 03:14:03 PM
I'm going to say that it's pretty obvious that Jason's shack is NOT a cabin from the original camp. It's a hodgepodge of sheet metal and particle board. It's not a log cabin.

Also, the camp closed down five years prior. If that were a cabin, neglected for five years, it wouldn't have looked that bad.

Its actually called Jason cabin in the making of Friday the 13th-Iwas going to say its obvious that it is-its got doors and windows a bathroom and shelves multiple rooms-cmon Jason doesnt build housing structures.Its even has an old road going to it-I dont think the sheriff would be so adamant to keep people out if it wasnt in fact supposed to be camp blood-


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 11, 2010, 03:16:51 PM
Its actually called Jason cabin in the making of Friday the 13th-Iwas going to say its obvious that it is-its got doors and windows a bathroom and shelves multiple rooms-cmon Jason doesnt build housing structures

Well he definitely had a lot of free time in the woods, so maybe he ended up going back to the camp, taking the supplies and taking notes of the things he saw in the cabin. I'm sure it's nothing that Bob Vila would have been impressed with.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 03:23:54 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/Batman1031/FridayThe13th_Cabin.jpg?t=1281554557)
Camp Crystal Lake Cabin.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/Batman1031/5.jpg?t=1281554602)
Jason's shack.

See how they're not even remotely similar?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 03:25:13 PM
Well he definitely had a lot of free time in the woods, so maybe he ended up going back to the camp, taking the supplies and taking notes of the things he saw in the cabin. I'm sure it's nothing that Bob Vila would have been impressed with.

He would just live at the camp its closed.Theres way to much stuff going on at the Shack for him to make.Look at the wall behind mrs v head,its a solid wall-jason would basically be walking around stealing things off of peoples houses to make that-which theres not a hole lot of people out there to steal from-and you cant rip that stuff off a log cabin,because its a log cabin not a trailer.Not plausable


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 11, 2010, 03:29:03 PM
He would just live at the camp its closed.Theres way to much stuff going on at the Shack for him to make.Look at the wall behind mrs v head,its a solid wall-jason would basically be walking around stealing things off of peoples houses to make that-which theres not a hole lot of people out there to steal from-and you cant rip that stuff off a log cabin,because its a log cabin not a trailer.Not plausable

Then could it be that the shack which Jason lives in, is an existing building of some sort (definitely not a log cabin) but maybe all the way back from the 50s when the camp was still in full swing. Maybe Jason stumbled upon it, and continued patching it up over the years due to the elements, so then what we're left with is a gritty and crude shack, possibly made from an existing building seperate from the camp.

I never once thought that Jason would move into the campgrounds, I think that he would much rather have lived off the radar and in a place more secluded.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 03:30:32 PM
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/Batman1031/FridayThe13th_Cabin.jpg?t=1281554557[/url])
Camp Crystal Lake Cabin.

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/Batman1031/5.jpg?t=1281554602[/url])
Jason's shack.

See how they're not even remotely similar?


hmm your point?Does Jason look the same from part 2 to 3?No does that mean its not Jason?these are low budget films-virgina fields bought the Shack for bottles of scotch.The wouldnt have a place condemed and blocked off if its not camp blood -dont you think?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 03:33:24 PM
hmm your point?Does Jason look the same from part 2 to 3?No does that mean its not Jason?these are low budget films-virgina fields bought the Shack for bottles of scotch.The wouldnt have a place condemed and blocked off if its not camp blood -dont you think?

Let me get this straight. You're saying this is Friday the 13th Part 2's art department's rendering of the cabins at Camp Crystal Lake? Is this what you're trying to tell me?

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and believe something much more probable.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on August 11, 2010, 03:39:31 PM
i say this very lightheartedly , but i think Killer-C may have been drinking some of those bottles of scotch !!! LOL

gonna side with brother Batty on this one ... those two are nothing alike and not even remotely similar .. , IMO


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 03:42:02 PM
Let me get this straight. You're saying this is Friday the 13th Part 2's art department's rendering of the cabins at Camp Crystal Lake? Is this what you're trying to tell me?

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and believe something much more probable.

Its pretty much stated in the movie-Like your to close that place is condemed-meaning not livable-The only thing more probably is what systematic said-its  also stated more than once in the making of-pages 82-83 that its jasons CABIN-remember looks can be decieving


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 03:47:33 PM
Saying that Camp Crystal Lake has been condemned (more than likely due to the bad luck there over the years than to any wear and tear of the cabins) is not the same thing as saying that Jason's shack is one of the camp cabins. 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 03:52:07 PM
Saying that Camp Crystal Lake has been condemned (more than likely due to the bad luck there over the years than to any wear and tear of the cabins) is not the same thing as saying that Jason's shack is one of the camp cabins. 

Again thats opinion,and im going by The Making of-which states cabin multiple times-So let me get this straight-you think the art depatment and the writers of The making of friday the 13th are both wrong?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 03:58:14 PM
Again thats opinion,and im going by The Making of-which states cabin multiple times-So let me get this straight-you think the art depatment and the writers of The making of friday the 13th are both wrong?

No. I think you're wrong.

You keep saying that some book (I'll use the actual films for reference) calls it a cabin. I call my grandmother's house a house. And that wouldn't make it the White House any more than a structure referred to a cabin is a camp cabin from Crystal Lake.

I've always called it a shack. By your rationale, I'm saying it's the same as Radio Shack. Just because some book calls it "a cabin" does not mean it's a camp cabin from Crystal Lake. A cabin is structure or dwelling. It's not a proper noun.

Also, instead of making strawman arguments, can you please answer my question? Because you seemed to imply that it looks nothing like a camp cabin because the look of Jason is inconsistent from film to film. So, I want to know if you honestly think that that is Steve Miner and company's idea of what Camp Crystal Lake should look like.

Also--again, pertaining to what is said here rather than making stuff up as we go along--saying the camp has been condemned does in no way verify that Jason's home is in fact a camp cabin. You've got to provide better proof than that if you want to get me to see things from your point of view.

 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 04:15:59 PM
Yeah I would say so.To me it just doesnt make sense for it not to be.Why make a big deal out of something for nothing?Im mean 2 people trespassed and almost go to jail-The way they talk about camp blood and it being off limits is for a reason-

I take it you have never read The Making of friday the 13th?Its actually pretty cool and has a lot of info about all the films.It doesnt go into great detail about Shack but is referred to many times as Jason cabin


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 04:23:46 PM
The way they talk about camp blood and it being off limits is for a reason

Yes, but I always thought the reason it's off limits is because of the past the camp has. Notice when the cop is talking with Paul, he says "it's been quiet for five years and that's the way we want to keep it." I always got the impression they had a live and let live mentality. People got killed at the camp, so the made the camp off limits rather than try and apprehend anyone. But that's just a guess. However, it's a good guess within the context of the film.

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I take it you have never read The Making of friday the 13th?Its actually pretty cool and has a lot of info about all the films.It doesnt go into great detail about Shack but is referred to many times as Jason cabin

No. I have the Crystal Lake Memories book, which doesn't really talk about it.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on August 11, 2010, 05:39:36 PM
I just have to say that I do not believe that Jason's shack is an old cabin. Jason was a hermit and definetley lived off of the grid. When the cop chased Jason, it was by total coincidence that he saw Jason run across the street. Not many people drove down that rode, so Jason didn't thin kthe cop would be out there.

A few things about Jason's shack. Yes, it had a toilet, but in the original film, the counselors had to go to the bathroom at the outhouse. So, if Jason's shack was an old cabin, there would be no toilet in there. It really does look like a pieced together shack with many different objects found thorughout the woods and possibly Camp Crystal Lake itself. I mean, stuff was falling apart in the shack and no way would the cabins have aged that badly in 5 years. Where did Jason live before the cabins were abandoned then? He was alive a lot longer than the 5 years after Mrs. Voorhees met her demise.

As for the Making of Friday the 13th book, is it possible that their choice of words, cabin, was just the term they used for Jason's shack and not really implying that it was an old cabin?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 06:03:32 PM
I just have to say that I do not believe that Jason's shack is an old cabin. Jason was a hermit and definetley lived off of the grid. When the cop chased Jason, it was by total coincidence that he saw Jason run across the street. Not many people drove down that rode, so Jason didn't thin kthe cop would be out there.

A few things about Jason's shack. Yes, it had a toilet, but in the original film, the counselors had to go to the bathroom at the outhouse. So, if Jason's shack was an old cabin, there would be no toilet in there. It really does look like a pieced together shack with many different objects found thorughout the woods and possibly Camp Crystal Lake itself. I mean, stuff was falling apart in the shack and no way would the cabins have aged that badly in 5 years. Where did Jason live before the cabins were abandoned then? He was alive a lot longer than the 5 years after Mrs. Voorhees met her demise.

As for the Making of Friday the 13th book, is it possible that their choice of words, cabin, was just the term they used for Jason's shack and not really implying that it was an old cabin?

I dont think him running across the road was a coincidence,Jason probably saw the sheriff take in the trespassers and was waiting for him to drive back by.

As for the shack-if its not the original cabin then its placed conveniently so close to both that nobody noticed?I mean if a kids gone missing and they cant find a body they would probably search the surrounding area-and they would know about the shack.Especailly when Mrs v head was never found im sure someone would have looked for it?

As for the book,they call it jasons lair/shack like one time-the rest of the time its Jasons cabin.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: 3timesbefore on August 11, 2010, 06:46:14 PM
I think that Jason's shack is not a cabin or part of Camp Crystal Lake but close enough that it falls within that No Trespassing zone the cop was whining to Paul about in Part 2. Like a halfway point between Camp Blood and Packanack. It's in the zone so that Jason can keep an eye on the camp, a holy place to him because of his mother; plus the area is home to him. Why would he wander miles and miles away to build himself a shelter? Might as well go to sunny California and get a beach house. There are well built walls in there, though, so it's possible that Jason found a shed or something that had been used for storing equipment, maybe even a place for keeping those canoes that reboot Jason throws around. He expands it, puts that scrap wood and sheet metal over what was a smaller structure, adds the bathroom, and basically it becomes the lair of a backwoods hermit.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 07:49:14 PM
I think that Jason's shack is not a cabin or part of Camp Crystal Lake but close enough that it falls within that No Trespassing zone the cop was whining to Paul about in Part 2. Like a halfway point between Camp Blood and Packanack. It's in the zone so that Jason can keep an eye on the camp, a holy place to him because of his mother; plus the area is home to him. Why would he wander miles and miles away to build himself a shelter? Might as well go to sunny California and get a beach house. There are well built walls in there, though, so it's possible that Jason found a shed or something that had been used for storing equipment, maybe even a place for keeping those canoes that reboot Jason throws around. He expands it, puts that scrap wood and sheet metal over what was a smaller structure, adds the bathroom, and basically it becomes the lair of a backwoods hermit.

In the reboot his home is the last cabin


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on August 11, 2010, 07:52:24 PM
good post 3timesbefore !
i agree with all of it , and you make some great points .
that's kind of always what i thought too , about Jason expanding on a shed or storage unit .

you can tell he didn't do the framing or install the windows , but certainly , it looks like all the other improvised add ons  stemmed from his needs at the time .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on August 13, 2010, 12:51:47 PM
When you look at the shack from the outside is looks like it was built out of scrap metal. I looks like Jason took apart various victim's cars and built himself a "place of solitude" out of it. It is definitely NOT a cabin. It isn't made of wood logs like the cabins in the original. Oddly enough on the inside it does have some wook finish, but I would not consider it a cabin. It is a half assed made structure by Jason himself. Thatis how I see it anyway.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 17, 2010, 10:01:21 PM
I really dont go by the novels but I found this interesting to the topic as it fits my posts

 "He was aware of feeling cold as winter came. He took shelter in the cabins at the camp and huddled before fires he built inside the hearths. He had learned to make fires in camp. Thought several times he did it wrong and let the flames get out of control, burning down a couple of the cabins before he got the hang of it.

On occasion, a policeman would drive by and see smoke curling from the chimney of a cabin that was supposed to be locked up for the winter. He would stop to investigate, but Jason always ran back into the woods whenever anybody came. He was waiting for his mother and he did not want to get into trouble.

Everyone would want to know how the manic had been able to live out there on the grounds of the old camp without anyone spotting him and why he hadn’t been arrested. "


Also,when Ted and couple are driving to the cousling center,theres a log in the road.In the bushes sandra finds a camp sign-which is very well grown in-just stating that the original camp is that close


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on August 19, 2010, 12:05:15 PM
That actually is an interesting concept.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 20, 2010, 07:40:50 PM
That actually is an interesting concept.

Thats funny cause its always how I thought of it


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Twistedfool on October 07, 2010, 01:01:28 AM
I have such fond memories of part 2, thanks to USA repeating the films over and over, I must've been 10 or 11, it was before my dad left, we watched part 2, or as much as I could get through, I was a kid and it freaked me out. Especially the head in the fridge cause right after that scene my dad looked at me and said "Go get me a beer from the ice box" That moment just sticks with me. Then TNT nitro played 1-3 back to back. Stayed up watching them. Made it to the end of part 2, the scene that got to me the most was Jason leaping across the road in front of the cops car. Seemed so much scarier and more detailed as a kid. Now it just looks funny.

When I was 17 I finnally found an old VHS copy and got to watch it unedited, before I had only seen it on cable, and missed all the good bits. When me and my ex wife first got together, she understood my love of Jason films and had never seen them, so we bonded over them, Especially part 2. So it's always been a huge part of my life.

Things I love, the face that its the only one in the series that attempts to explain what Jason is, sort of. It is more atmopshere then anything else, lots of random shots of trees and skylines. The charicters are not so flat and predictable, they have their own back stories and stuff. Its a good movie, with a wierd twisted ending that I cannot really explain


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on March 09, 2011, 11:36:22 PM
Always my fave in the series. Don't care for the dream ending, but better JV makeup than in Part 3.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: coolj712 on May 16, 2011, 10:12:04 PM
i really liked this one not my favriot in the series but still like it


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Tord on June 03, 2011, 08:03:01 PM
To be honest about Muffins,

I think the reason Jason wouldn't kill her/him is because Jason knew that the humans came in at warning and own risk, Muffins didn't have a choice but to come because Terri brought her/him.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 03, 2011, 09:46:35 PM
So what was that white mangled mess with a ribbon on it that Jeff and Sandra ran across while trying to find
" Camp Blood"?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Tord on June 03, 2011, 09:51:29 PM
So what was that white mangled mess with a ribbon on it that Jeff and Sandra ran across while trying to find
" Camp Blood"?

That's the question, it's always tangled that if Jason would ever kill animals. You never know what it was, Jeff & Sandra never claimed that it was an animal. Could of been anything.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 03, 2011, 09:58:19 PM
The ribbon is still a big coincidence, though.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Tord on June 04, 2011, 06:41:25 AM
Maybe, and Jeff even said, "Should we tell Terri?"

They never got a real clear look after the Officer pulls them.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 04, 2011, 03:56:13 PM
I suppose it's all academic.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 04, 2011, 08:14:55 PM
didn't Sandra say that it 'looks like a dog' ??

maybe my memory is tricking me ...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on June 04, 2011, 08:18:47 PM
didn't Sandra say that it 'looks like a dog' ??

maybe my memory is tricking me ...

Yeah, she does.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 04, 2011, 08:24:57 PM
Yeah, she does.
i thought so !
thanks Marie ...

so what are the odds that 2 little dogs , about the same size and wearing a ribbon , are at Crystal Lake/Camp Blood at close to the same time ?
the mangled mess hadn't been decomposed or ripped apart by scavengers ..? a fairly new kill , IMO ?

seems pretty cut and dried to me , as to Muffin's fate ...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on June 04, 2011, 10:30:09 PM
I agree. Muffin is toast.  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Tord on June 04, 2011, 10:46:49 PM
I disagree,

I can't find a way of Jason killing Muffins in the first place, but we will never 100% know if Muffin died.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 04, 2011, 11:27:39 PM
Along with the bow....its the same size/color as muffin...you can see the teeth/jaw too..I think JV killed muffin for food...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Tord on June 04, 2011, 11:35:02 PM
I see, but again I can't find Jason Voorhees killing things for food, especially what people thought in part 3. Jason killed people for food.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 07, 2011, 06:42:53 AM
I see, but again I can't find Jason Voorhees killing things for food, especially what people thought in part 3. Jason killed people for food.

Where did you see that?  My memory must be failing me.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on June 11, 2011, 04:54:33 AM
Muffin is definitely dead, you can see her teeth and everything.

What is with the actors staring directly into the camera all the time? E.g Alice in the beginning and Terry later on (she does it quite a few times).

Vickie was on the prowl wasn't she? lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: sake on June 11, 2011, 10:18:05 PM
Is there any name for camp from this part? what does Vickie take from the car.. something stick, but what is it?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on June 12, 2011, 08:03:37 AM
Is there any name for camp from this part? what does Vickie take from the car.. something stick, but what is it?

She gets a hair brush.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on June 12, 2011, 10:46:32 AM
Is there any name for camp from this part? what does Vickie take from the car.. something stick, but what is it?
Camp Packanack.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: sake on June 12, 2011, 11:02:46 AM
okey thank you very much Marie and Black_Panther


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on June 12, 2011, 11:29:30 AM
lol you're welcome!

I always wondered why Vickie takes so long to 'get ready' for Mark, she gets the brush, goes back to her cabin and changes and in the mean time her hot date gets a machete in the face. Silly girl she should've jumped him right then and there, she seemed desperate enough lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Tord on June 12, 2011, 11:49:15 AM
Muffin is definitely dead, you can see her teeth and everything.

What is with the actors staring directly into the camera all the time? E.g Alice in the beginning and Terry later on (she does it quite a few times).

Vickie was on the prowl wasn't she? lol

No, never saw her teeth. I don't think she is dead, I can't find the right proof yet..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 12, 2011, 12:29:44 PM
No, never saw her teeth. I don't think she is dead, I can't find the right proof yet..

When we see the remains of the animal you can see an upturned snout with dog teeth. Let's face it, Jason got a little hungry and wanted a canine McMuffin :emojack:


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on June 12, 2011, 01:38:32 PM
^^^
yeah that. Plus I'm sure you can see her ribbon, if I could take a screenshot of it I would. Everything about it told you it was Muffin, the snout, the fur colour and I'm pretty sure you can see her paws. Idk someone needs to capture it so and we can 'CSI' it lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on June 12, 2011, 01:55:45 PM
Yeah it's pretty clear. LOL @ McMuffin!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 12, 2011, 10:48:22 PM
I think its funny that Paul says they only have 2 cars...but Vicki runs out to hers later...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: sake on June 12, 2011, 10:55:10 PM
I think its funny that Paul says they only have 2 cars...but Vicki runs out to hers later...
haha.. never have realized that thing.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 12, 2011, 10:58:56 PM
Lol for reals....and think..there's at least 1w councilors there for training...how'd they all get thee..a bus? Cab? Did snotty beam them there? Lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 13, 2011, 06:25:28 AM
haha.. never have realized that thing.

No one ever sais the scripts made sense, which is what makes this so funny.  Especially since Ginny's car was such a dud.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 13, 2011, 12:13:01 PM
I was flippin thru channels last week and I saw John Furey (Paul) in an episode of DAYS OF OUR LIVES. He was some dude looking for an "upscale" female escort.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 13, 2011, 08:03:54 PM
I was flippin thru channels last week and I saw John Furey (Paul) in an episode of DAYS OF OUR LIVES. He was some dude looking for an "upscale" female escort.

You mean like Client number 9?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 20, 2011, 04:39:02 PM
He was on like 3 episodes. The chick got him drunk so she wouldn't have to do him. LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 20, 2011, 10:30:35 PM
Out of all the friday leading ladies....I like ginny the most...I dunno what it is about her...but she comes of so...real? I dunno..she's just so laid back...id love to see a friday13 with her and Megan from 6...she's my other fav...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 21, 2011, 05:20:56 AM
Out of all the friday leading ladies....I like ginny the most...I dunno what it is about her...but she comes of so...real? I dunno..she's just so laid back...id love to see a friday13 with her and Megan from 6...she's my other fav...
they're both my two favs as well !!

yummy ....:)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Robot5 on June 22, 2011, 05:38:22 AM
I agree with you Jimmy, Ginny is one of my favorite leading ladies. I like how she uses psychology against Jason. It adds a good depth to the character and the story. 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 22, 2011, 06:37:24 AM
I agree with you Jimmy, Ginny is one of my favorite leading ladies. I like how she uses psychology against Jason. It adds a good depth to the character and the story. 

The psychology only worked until she moved just enough to have Jason see his mother's head, and it was all downhill from there.  You make a good point though.

Consider this - was Tommy Jarvis using psychology when he said, " no matter what you call it, it's still camp Crystal lake to him". ?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: sake on June 23, 2011, 05:50:16 AM
I have always wondered how Jason got his mother's head.. Did he dig up Pamela's grave or something?? any idea?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 23, 2011, 06:36:15 AM
I have always wondered how Jason got his mother's head.. Did he dig up Pamela's grave or something?? any idea?

Well, it's possible, like Ginny said, that he was watching the night she was beheaded, and when Alice was in the boat asleep, he grabbed the head and took it with him.  But why not go out and finish Alice for what happened to his mother?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 26, 2011, 05:53:32 PM
Maybe JV didn't actually see the beheading...but came up on the body shortly after..and didn't see alice int the lake with it being night...cause ginny is pretty much speculating about the entire JV legend...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 27, 2011, 05:46:39 AM
Maybe JV didn't actually see the beheading...but came up on the body shortly after..and didn't see alice int the lake with it being night...cause ginny is pretty much speculating about the entire JV legend...

The remake seems to suggest he was watching that night, but it's all academic.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: sake on July 07, 2011, 09:48:39 AM
Do anybody else think that Jason didn't really drown as a kid?? I have always thought that he didn't die


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on July 07, 2011, 10:43:26 AM
Do anybody else think that Jason didn't really drown as a kid?? I have always thought that he didn't die
i always thought that too !!!!!  i totally agree with you on that :)

there was never any talk about Jason's body being found in the lake , or that a funeral was held for him .....

in the novels , JV drowned , BUT lots of movies are made from novels , that deviate from the written storyline ? plus , the novels were written AFTER the movies came out , so they just played up the drowning theory .

in pt2 Jason was clearly a human being with human emotions .
ie: fear - cowering away when Ginny came at him with the chainsaw ; anger-- when he realised Ginny wasn't his mommy at the shack ; guilt - his not wanting to be caught by the cop in the woods ; etc....

plus he did the automatic 'grunt and grab my crotch' when Ginny kicked him in the balls ..ouch !  lol

 Jason probably went into hiding as a child out of shame over his deformities and his crazy mother ??
he didn't drown , IMO


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 07, 2011, 10:52:32 AM
Do anybody else think that Jason didn't really drown as a kid?? I have always thought that he didn't die

Well, he might have gone underwater, but people may have thought he drowned because they couldn't find him later.  He may have gone somewhere, and people didn't see him right away and make a leap in logic.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: sake on July 07, 2011, 12:25:53 PM
i always thought that too !!!!!  i totally agree with you on that :)

there was never any talk about Jason's body being found in the lake , or that a funeral was held for him .....

in the novels , JV drowned , BUT lots of movies are made from novels , that deviate from the written storyline ? plus , the novels were written AFTER the movies came out , so they just played up the drowning theory .

in pt2 Jason was clearly a human being with human emotions .
ie: fear - cowering away when Ginny came at him with the chainsaw ; anger-- when he realised Ginny wasn't his mommy at the shack ; guilt - his not wanting to be caught by the cop in the woods ; etc....

plus he did the automatic 'grunt and grab my crotch' when Ginny kicked him in the balls ..ouch !  lol

 Jason probably went into hiding as a child out of shame over his deformities and his crazy mother ??
he didn't drown , IMO
great, that someone thinks same way : ) about those same things I have thought too, he didn't die.. I thought that he got underwater and went ashore somewhere near.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on July 07, 2011, 01:01:48 PM
Actually, Eric Morse answered this question in one of his novels. You can find it here:

http://f13bloodbath.homestead.com/preview.html (http://f13bloodbath.homestead.com/preview.html)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: AnnieCooks on July 08, 2011, 12:32:34 AM
He was on like 3 episodes. The chick got him drunk so she wouldn't have to do him. LOL

I watch Days of our Lives everyday.  I had no idea that was Paul! 

" I thought you said I was the best ever "   LOL

go Furey ,  I think this is really what happened to Paul Holt


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Mangler312 on July 08, 2011, 01:57:15 AM
Do anybody else think that Jason didn't really drown as a kid?? I have always thought that he didn't die

I always thought he didn't really drown.

He was just washed out far down the lake and they were never able to find him. He got outta the lake and didn't know how to get back or contact anyone, so he just became a hermit.

This is all way before the supernatural elements of the series kicked in, so him drownin then miraculously comin back to life makes no sense. Granted, sense is largely irrelevant in these movies, but it's never been explained in any of the films so I took it to mean he didn't really die in the lake.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 08, 2011, 06:44:41 AM
I always thought he didn't really drown.

He was just washed out far down the lake and they were never able to find him. He got outta the lake and didn't know how to get back or contact anyone, so he just became a hermit.

This is all way before the supernatural elements of the series kicked in, so him drownin then miraculously comin back to life makes no sense. Granted, sense is largely irrelevant in these movies, but it's never been explained in any of the films so I took it to mean he didn't really die in the lake.

and i'm pretty sure it never will be explained why he didn't drown in the lake.  and if it was, I hope they don't use some stupid supernatural explananation as to how he got out of the lake.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: sake on July 08, 2011, 08:15:17 AM
I always thought he didn't really drown.

He was just washed out far down the lake and they were never able to find him. He got outta the lake and didn't know how to get back or contact anyone, so he just became a hermit.

This is all way before the supernatural elements of the series kicked in, so him drownin then miraculously comin back to life makes no sense. Granted, sense is largely irrelevant in these movies, but it's never been explained in any of the films so I took it to mean he didn't really die in the lake.
Yup, I agree so much


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 08, 2011, 10:43:59 AM
Yup, I agree so much

I'm with you both.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jasonkiller on July 27, 2011, 04:17:31 PM
me and my friends are big friday
the 13th fans what happened to paul at the end of part 2 and where can i see the original ending of part 3


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on July 27, 2011, 04:31:55 PM
me and my friends are big friday
the 13th fans what happened to paul at the end of part 2 and where can i see the original ending of part 3

Paul's dead. & as for your other question, its been answered in the other thread you asked in


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on August 14, 2011, 03:15:09 PM
I think Paul is dead too.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 14, 2011, 08:21:52 PM
Paul's assumed dead, but it would have been nice to see him get dispatched.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on August 15, 2011, 05:38:04 AM
Paul's assumed dead, but it would have been nice to see him get dispatched.

I think we did see him die. I think Paul died in the fight with Jason at the lodge and Ginny dreamed about him rescuing her.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 15, 2011, 12:39:37 PM
I think we did see him die. I think Paul died in the fight with Jason at the lodge and Ginny dreamed about him rescuing her.

So how did she get back to the camp with a bad leg?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on September 05, 2011, 08:19:59 PM
Since Ginny put on the mother's sweater, she too can now regenerate lost and damaged tissue.  8)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on September 06, 2011, 07:16:53 AM
Since Ginny put on the mother's sweater, she too can now regenerate lost and damaged tissue.  8)

So we go straight to JGTH with this one then?  Imagine that!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on September 18, 2011, 08:09:34 PM
So where and when did Paul die?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on September 19, 2011, 07:11:48 AM
So where and when did Paul die?

I'm still thinking in the lodge, even though I think he was supposed to survive and Furey's suddenly walking off the set screwed up everybody's plans.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on September 19, 2011, 01:11:49 PM
I'm still thinking in the lodge, even though I think he was supposed to survive and Furey's suddenly walking off the set screwed up everybody's plans.

Of course, running into JASON can screw up anyone's plans.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on September 19, 2011, 01:21:10 PM
Of course, running into JASON can screw up anyone's plans.

Yeah, inconsiderate fucker, that Voorhees. See if I ever invite him to another party.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on September 19, 2011, 01:42:12 PM
Yeah, inconsiderate fucker, that Voorhees. See if I ever invite him to another party.

I don't think he'll take it personally.  But, if he's holding a machete, maybe he will!!!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on September 20, 2011, 04:44:27 AM
I don't think he'll take it personally.  But, if he's holding a machete, maybe he will!!!!

I dunno, now that you mention the machete, it's harder for me to not invite him. I mean, that guy can do amazing ice sculptures with that thing. For some reason his mother's severed head seems to be a recurring theme though....


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on September 20, 2011, 10:05:14 AM
I dunno, now that you mention the machete, it's harder for me to not invite him. I mean, that guy can do amazing ice sculptures with that thing. For some reason his mother's severed head seems to be a recurring theme though....

I guess he's a momma's boy.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jason V on September 20, 2011, 04:33:14 PM
Alright Friday the 13th Part 2. Or as I like to call it "the one that caught me off guard" When I was like 17,18 years old and started to watch all the films for the first time I only knew Jason as the unstoppable killer with the hockey mask. I knew he wasnt the killer in the original so that wasnt a surprise but well Part 2 did surprise me. Here I was imagining Jason as the massive killing machine in the hockey mask and then there was this almost awkward and rather human behaving Jason with a burlap sack on his head. And I was like "what the fuck?"

That certainly took some getting used to but now about 10 years later I honestly wouldnt want to have it any other way. After being a fan for such a long time of the genre and this series I actually really like it that Jason starts out as this almost boyish young guy with the bag on his head and wearing the flanell shirt. Today it gives me this "this was the beginning of Jason"-feeling. The early days. And today I do love the fact that Jason over the course of the series evolved from the deformed child into the invincible killing machine with the hockey mask and that it was an evolution in several stages. Jason isnt always the same kind of guy in these movies like you have it for instance with Freddy or Leatherface. And I find that really exciting.

While I was watching Part 2 a few days ago as part of my currently ongoing F13 DVD-marathon I had to smile when I saw this still so inexperienced, running and hurting Jason with the bag on his head bc he is so different from how he became later on. And that to me are always great stories where you can see a character over time changing into someone new. Stronger and better. And it makes you feel more for the character as well. Its like a journey you make with Jason.

Part 2 is actually a really great movie. the music and atmosphere is on the same level as the original and you got some really cool kills (even though they unfortunately were heavily trimmed down by the MPAA and Paramount and as such arent as satisfying as in the original) and I really liked Amy Steel as Ginny as well. The scenes in Jasons shack were truly awesome and very creepy.

Oh and ofc there is Alice. I am really happy that we see her again in Part 2 cause she really is my favorite "Friday-girl" (And Adrienne King is such a wonderful person) but I was really upset when she got killed. She was the only one in these movies that I never wanted to die. Ofc I was shocked when I saw it the first time that Jason killed her so early on. It really was hitting me hard and now that I look back at it I think Kevin Williamson referenced this in the opening of Scream when Drew Barrymore got killed. Nobody sees this coming. Though when Casey was killed in Scream I was actually excited about that while in the case of Alices death I was shocked and a bit upset. Which ofc is great^^

All in all a great Friday-film with a Jason in his early killing days and at the beginning of his journey. Only downsides to that film really are the trimmed down kills and the fact that Alice dies so early on.

Rating: 7.5/10



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on October 13, 2011, 11:27:19 PM
Just watched this one again on DVD last night. The prologue kinda drags. I like it from Jeff and Sandra's arrival in town on.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on October 14, 2011, 06:39:38 AM
Just watched this one again on DVD last night. The prologue kinda drags. I like it from Jeff and Sandra's arrival in town on.

After Alice dies, the movie DOES seem to pick up speed.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 16, 2011, 07:27:19 PM
Just watched this one again on DVD last night. The prologue kinda drags. I like it from Jeff and Sandra's arrival in town on.
i was just watching Saw VI with my gf last night , and she mentioned that it was boring in most spots ?

i think a lot of horror movies have those lulls in excitment .
as much as we may want it , there isn't a cool death scene every 5 seconds !!  lol

the pt 2 Alice dream sequence never seemed boring to me though ?
i loved it , the atmosphere , and the music .

when the kid playing in the puddles is told to comes inside , then Jason splashes into the scene ??
holy f**k i love that part !!!!  ki ki ki ma ma ma :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on October 17, 2011, 03:18:29 AM
the pt 2 Alice dream sequence never seemed boring to me though ?
i loved it , the atmosphere , and the music .

when the kid playing in the puddles is told to comes inside , then Jason splashes into the scene ??
holy f**k i love that part !!!!  ki ki ki ma ma ma :)

Yeah, I love both of those parts. The atmosphere is just so creepy and the impending dread when you see that foot splash down in the puddle, shit!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on October 17, 2011, 10:50:07 AM
Yeah, I love both of those parts. The atmosphere is just so creepy and the impending dread when you see that foot splash down in the puddle, shit!

And you know the little kid may soon have more probelms than just his mother asking him to come inside.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Starman on October 17, 2011, 04:20:03 PM
Just watched this one again on DVD last night. The prologue kinda drags. I like it from Jeff and Sandra's arrival in town on.

same and i like when jeff pissed when his truck is towed (prank by ted) lol.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on October 17, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
same and i like when jeff pissed when his truck is towed (prank by ted) lol.
Jeff sure got excited, didn't he?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on October 18, 2011, 11:04:50 AM
same and i like when jeff pissed when his truck is towed (prank by ted) lol.

Classic prank by the seminal practical joker.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: wheres paul on October 21, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
I always wanted some back story on the 5 year interval between part 1 and part 2. Just to see how uneasy life in Crystal Lake was. I attempted to write a story once about the interval told from Sgt Tierney's perspective but I didn't go far. I can imagine how eerie the town was in Aug 79 when Alice was killed by an unknown assailant and especially the MO.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on October 23, 2011, 10:36:39 AM
I always wanted some back story on the 5 year interval between part 1 and part 2. Just to see how uneasy life in Crystal Lake was. I attempted to write a story once about the interval told from Sgt Tierney's perspective but I didn't go far. I can imagine how eerie the town was in Aug 79 when Alice was killed by an unknown assailant and especially the MO.
Maybe they could show people talking in the diner Annie walked into.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 27, 2011, 07:45:01 PM
I too often wonder about the 5 yrs between 1 and 2... his shack...his food..and how many ( if any) people he took out...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on October 28, 2011, 12:32:18 PM
I too often wonder about the 5 yrs between 1 and 2... his shack...his food..and how many ( if any) people he took out...

There's always some dumbass transient going through little towns like that.  I'm sure more than a few didn't make it home.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 30, 2011, 11:15:53 AM
There's always some dumbass transient going through little towns like that.  I'm sure more than a few didn't make it home.
this is another god angle for a F13th prequel .....


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on October 31, 2011, 11:29:20 AM
this is another god angle for a F13th prequel .....

Really is!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on October 31, 2011, 09:39:57 PM
this is another god angle for a F13th prequel .....

Maybe people like US could write the script and FILM it too.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on November 02, 2011, 08:17:02 AM
Maybe people like US could write the script and FILM it too.
yeah , we've hinted on that before !!

i'm still waiting on your first draft of the script .... :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 02, 2011, 01:46:02 PM
yeah , we've hinted on that before !!

i'm still waiting on your first draft of the script .... :)
Are you planning on being my agent?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on November 02, 2011, 01:47:06 PM
Are you planning on being my agent?
i only get paid in beer !
deal ?  LOL :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on November 03, 2011, 12:00:18 AM
I still hate how they offed Ralph in Pt. 2. He would NOT have been out there at night.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on November 03, 2011, 03:38:59 AM
I still hate how they offed ralph in Pt. 2. He would NOT have been out there at night.
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a very good point !!!
i used to wonder why Ralph was out in the darkness , when he was so vocal about the Camp Blood curse ??


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 03, 2011, 07:07:24 AM
i only get paid in beer !
deal ?  LOL :)
Just be sober when you negotiate our fees.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on November 06, 2011, 11:26:57 PM
Just be sober when you negotiate our fees.
*hiccup*
where do i sign ?  LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 08, 2011, 10:59:59 PM
Ralph's death always bothered me too...not that I find it hard to believe he'd be snooping around at night...but that he was killed off so quickly...it would have been kool if ralph was in 3 and 4...warning the kids of their impending doom...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 09, 2011, 07:12:54 AM
Ralph's death always bothered me too...not that I find it hard to believe he'd be snooping around at night...but that he was killed off so quickly...it would have been kool if ralph was in 3 and 4...warning the kids of their impending doom...
And adults too.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: JDW89 on November 11, 2011, 03:18:48 PM
Have any of you also noticed that in most if not all the other sequels that they try to have someone that's creepy and telling the kids about their impending doom? LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 11, 2011, 05:22:27 PM
Have any of you also noticed that in most if not all the other sequels that they try to have someone that's creepy and telling the kids about their impending doom? LOL
Yep.  Just wish Ralph was in more of them.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on November 12, 2011, 01:21:15 PM
Have any of you also noticed that in most if not all the other sequels that they try to have someone that's creepy and telling the kids about their impending doom? LOL

Okay, part 3 had Abel. Nobody in 4, 5, or 6, unless you count Rick or Tommy as the creepy doomsayer. Nobody in 7, either, unless you want to count Tina telling what she saw. There was the deckhand in 8, Creighton Duke in JGTH, I guess you could count Rowan in Jason X, and you could definitely count Will's friend, Mark, in FvJ and the old lady in the reboot. But Rick, Tommy, Tina, and Rowan are kinda sketchy if they count or not.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on December 04, 2011, 03:27:03 AM
There were not a lot of Ralph like characters in the series. You have the old guy sleeping in the road in Part 3 and that janitor guy in Part 8. In the remake you have the old lady with the dog.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 04, 2011, 05:05:04 PM
Ralph was killed off WAY too early.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on December 05, 2011, 06:25:40 AM
Ralph was killed off WAY too early.

Yeah, and I think the producers probably regret that. They could've really gotten more mileage out of Ralph.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 05, 2011, 07:06:47 AM
Yeah, and I think the producers probably regret that. They could've really gotten more mileage out of Ralph.
A LOT more.


Title: Ugly as Hell
Post by: Ado Lucky on December 09, 2011, 12:36:53 PM
anyone agree terri isn't as hot as they thought she would? :jason72:


Title: Re: Ugly as Hell
Post by: Jet on December 10, 2011, 10:44:09 AM
anyone agree terri isn't as hot as they thought she would? :jason72:

Sorry, got to disagree there.


Title: Re: Ugly as Hell
Post by: Stalker on December 10, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
Sorry, got to disagree there.
She could do in a pinch, but I can think of better.  Scott might be doing the pinching though.


Title: Re: Ugly as Hell
Post by: Jet on December 11, 2011, 09:40:47 PM
She could do in a pinch, but I can think of better.  Scott might be doing the pinching though.

I wouldn't mind a pinch myself.....


Title: Re: Ugly as Hell
Post by: Stalker on December 12, 2011, 06:54:08 AM
I wouldn't mind a pinch myself.....
From Scott or Terri?


Title: Re: Ugly as Hell
Post by: Jet on December 13, 2011, 11:49:07 AM
From Scott or Terri?

A pinch OF Terri! Scott touches me I'll kick his ass. Jason will be the least of his problems!


Title: Re: Ugly as Hell
Post by: Stalker on December 13, 2011, 02:23:32 PM
A pinch OF Terri! Scott touches me I'll kick his ass. Jason will be the least of his problems!
A man's got to know his limitations.  And have his priorities.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on January 24, 2012, 04:06:16 AM
and i'm pretty sure it never will be explained why he didn't drown in the lake.  and if it was, I hope they don't use some stupid supernatural explananation as to how he got out of the lake.
The story states that Jason is a child with special needs, but it never does really specify what his impairment(s) are. I am inclined to believe that Jason was autistic. This would explain a lot (and open up a can of worms). I don't think that Jason actually drowned as a child. His body was never recovered from the lake, and I find that odd that they can conclude that he drowned without finding a body. Someone would have actually had to see him drown to make this assumption, and if they witnessed his drowning, wouldn't they have tried to rescue him and even if they were not successful at his rescue, a body would still be recovered. I think Mrs. Voorhees assumed that he drowned, but perhaps he wandered off deep into the woods. Being autistic, he could have an inability to communicate, interract, or develop relationships with others, his mother included, so he did not seek anyone out or call out for help. When his mother and the other camp counselors discovered Jason was missing, the police would have been notified and they would have searched for him. After an unsuccessful search effort, it was presumed that he drowned, when he actually wandered off deep into the woods and became feral. This theory actually makes a lot of sense when you consider Jason's behavior and mannerisms from the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th films of the series where Jason was still human. He was much easier to injure (Ginny dropping him by kicking him in the nuts) but still basically a wild animal (his encounter with Chris) roaming around in the wilderness. With Mrs. Voorhees actually believing him to be dead, it still ties in with the vengeful mother story. However, it also opens up the possibility of Mrs. Voorhees having an accomplice in the original. At some point after Alice decapitated Mrs. Voorhees and before the police arrived, Jason stole his mother's head from the crime scene. Jason had to play a role in the original film (besides the jumping out of the lake scene), otherwise, how did he get his mom's head? Unless Jason really did, in fact, drown and was resurrected when his mother's blood spilled..........Hmm.....some thing to think about I guess.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on January 24, 2012, 11:23:47 AM
The story states that Jason is a child with special needs, but it never does really specify what his impairment(s) are. I am inclined to believe that Jason was autistic. This would explain a lot (and open up a can of worms). I don't think that Jason actually drowned as a child. His body was never recovered from the lake, and I find that odd that they can conclude that he drowned without finding a body. Someone would have actually had to see him drown to make this assumption, and if they witnessed his drowning, wouldn't they have tried to rescue him and even if they were not successful at his rescue, a body would still be recovered. I think Mrs. Voorhees assumed that he drowned, but perhaps he wandered off deep into the woods. Being autistic, he could have an inability to communicate, interract, or develop relationships with others, his mother included, so he did not seek anyone out or call out for help. When his mother and the other camp counselors discovered Jason was missing, the police would have been notified and they would have searched for him. After an unsuccessful search effort, it was presumed that he drowned, when he actually wandered off deep into the woods and became feral. This theory actually makes a lot of sense when you consider Jason's behavior and mannerisms from the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th films of the series where Jason was still human. He was much easier to injure (Ginny dropping him by kicking him in the nuts) but still basically a wild animal (his encounter with Chris) roaming around in the wilderness. With Mrs. Voorhees actually believing him to be dead, it still ties in with the vengeful mother story. However, it also opens up the possibility of Mrs. Voorhees having an accomplice in the original. At some point after Alice decapitated Mrs. Voorhees and before the police arrived, Jason stole his mother's head from the crime scene. Jason had to play a role in the original film (besides the jumping out of the lake scene), otherwise, how did he get his mom's head? Unless Jason really did, in fact, drown and was resurrected when his mother's blood spilled..........Hmm.....some thing to think about I guess.

Very interesting theory. I like it.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on January 24, 2012, 02:12:32 PM
I think he simply just swam to shore and wandered off. After all, it was stated that the children were poorly supervised. Something distracted him. My aunt used to babysit an autistic girl, and she told me a story about her wandering off and climbing a tree (I'm talking waaaay high up in the tree, not typical tree climbing for a kid) and she just sat up there making animal noises and they had to call 911 to get her out of the tree because they didn't have a ladder big enough and they were afraid of her falling. (This was a story her parents told my aunt. This did not happen while she was in my aunt's care.) So it would not be too farfetched to say Jason just wandered off while being poorly supervised. It does only take a second for a child to sneak off out of sight. If Jason never developed verbal skills, he would not be able to call out to a search party. And Mrs. V said herself, "Jason should have been watched, every minute." She was a struggling single mom working as a cook at the camp.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: PhenomenalTLD on January 24, 2012, 02:17:01 PM
If he drowned and was never found, why the hell didn't they just drag the lake? Surely it couldn't have been so big that they couldn't find him. If they dragged the lake and didn't find him, it's doubtful they would have assumed he drowned.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on January 25, 2012, 04:10:35 AM
If he drowned and was never found, why the hell didn't they just drag the lake? Surely it couldn't have been so big that they couldn't find him. If they dragged the lake and didn't find him, it's doubtful they would have assumed he drowned.
True. They should have dragged the lake, but did they? It was stated that his body was never recovered from the lake after he drowned. No body-no evidence that he drowned.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on January 25, 2012, 11:37:51 AM
If he drowned and was never found, why the hell didn't they just drag the lake? Surely it couldn't have been so big that they couldn't find him. If they dragged the lake and didn't find him, it's doubtful they would have assumed he drowned.

Again, you have to remember this was 1957, when there was no such thing as mandatory sensitivity training for lawmen and when mentally handicapped children (which I still don't buy Jason as) or children with cranial/facial deformities (which he obviously was) were something people were ashamed of and frightened by. I very seriously doubt the police really gave too much of a shit about finding "the retarded kid" ergo no lake dragging.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on February 15, 2012, 06:40:38 PM
I always thought that was funny,they went out to party and didnt come back,But what about the police car that was blocking the road?
Who misses a nice, shiny police car in the woods? 

Anyway, when I saw this movie the first time, I never thought of a copycat killer.  My big question is this:  Who didn't check to see why the cop didn't come back from camp?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on February 16, 2012, 09:56:48 AM
Who misses a nice, shiny police car in the woods? 

Anyway, when I saw this movie the first time, I never thought of a copycat killer.  My big question is this:  Who didn't check to see why the cop didn't come back from camp?

Well, if it was a county that was large in land area and short on manpower he might go days and days without checking in. We have a county nearby here, Glades County, that's very rural and large and Deputies will sometimes go days without going to the HQ.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 17, 2012, 01:05:54 PM
I can not even walk through woods without making the chchchhahaha sound and thinking about the reverse chase scene between Jason and the cop. I also keep an eye out for shacks!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on February 17, 2012, 07:50:50 PM
Well, if it was a county that was large in land area and short on manpower he might go days and days without checking in. We have a county nearby here, Glades County, that's very rural and large and Deputies will sometimes go days without going to the HQ.
Keep in ind this was near the site of a mass murder and vandalism.  they were keeping an eye on the place.  But who knows?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on March 15, 2012, 06:51:00 AM
Ok, so a lot of people think that Muffin and Paul are dead. I have done some careful research on this topic and neither Muffin or Paul died. The end was NOT a dream sequence. I will not discount everything that happened in this film just because the minute of news report in part 3 that may lead you to believe that Ginny was the sole survivor. It did not say she was the SOLE survivor, just said she survived. News reports are often very inaccurate. So do not believe everything you hear.

As far as Muffin is concerned, the dead animal that Jeff and Sandra found wasn't wearing the purple bow in it's hair. So I am thankful for that. Muffin is alive and well!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on March 15, 2012, 07:05:07 AM
Ok, so a lot of people think that Muffin and Paul are dead. I have done some careful research on this topic and neither Muffin or Paul died. The end was NOT a dream sequence. I will not discount everything that happened in this film just because the minute of news report in part 3 that may lead you to believe that Ginny was the sole survivor. It did not say she was the SOLE survivor, just said she survived. News reports are often very inaccurate. So do not believe everything you hear.

As far as Muffin is concerned, the dead animal that Jeff and Sandra found wasn't wearing the purple bow in it's hair. So I am thankful for that. Muffin is alive and well!
Do you think Jason has a new pet?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 15, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
(http://www.campblood.net/gallery/albums/uploads/DVD_Stills/Pt2/cap073.jpg)

EW! Haha


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on March 15, 2012, 07:41:44 PM
([url]http://www.campblood.net/gallery/albums/uploads/DVD_Stills/Pt2/cap073.jpg[/url])

EW! Haha
Still looks like Muffin to me!!!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 04, 2012, 03:02:55 AM
I thought Jason's shelter was very creepy. It was totally Texas Chainsaw Massacre quality stuff.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 04, 2012, 03:07:38 AM
Nooooooo!!!!! Not Muffin!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 04, 2012, 06:53:43 AM
I thought Jason's shelter was very creepy. It was totally Texas Chainsaw Massacre quality stuff.
Without the cannibals.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jet on April 05, 2012, 11:56:06 AM
Without the cannibals.

You think. Remember part III "Rumors of cannibalism haven't been confirmed." Jason was eating something......


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 05, 2012, 12:37:04 PM
You think. Remember part III "Rumors of cannibalism haven't been confirmed." Jason was eating something......
Actually, I don't think I've ever heard that in the newscast in part 3, and I've listened to it a few times.  I've always seen Jason as a venison guy myself. 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 09, 2012, 07:59:15 PM
Its in Part 3. The newscast mentions rumors of cannibalism.  We do know that JV ate animals. Not sure about humans. :jason3:


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 10, 2012, 03:08:41 PM
Its in Part 3. The newscast mentions rumors of cannibalism.  We do know that JV ate animals. Not sure about humans. :jason3:
I'll listen to it again, but I'm not sure I'll find it.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Slimpy79 on April 14, 2012, 10:23:06 AM
I never once thought it could be anyone BUT Jason that killed Alice.  Why would they have an alternate killer that somehow obtained Mom's head?  That's overthinking it!  ;)  It was Jason...he found Alice why?  Because the screenwriter made it happen!  :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jasonmichael on April 16, 2012, 01:35:29 PM
Just finished watching Part 2 in full for the first time on Blu-ray, and I have to say it is the worst one from the original quadrilogy.  After seeing Part 3 and Part 1, Part 2 has the least impact IMO.  The characters were not as good, and the movie was less scary.  

It's hard to say though whether Part 2 is worse than parts 5-8.  I would say Parts 5 and 8 are worse than Part 2, but Parts 6 and 7 are better.  

It's probably worth having in the collection though simply for historical value (the original quadrilogy).

After seeing pretty much the whole series recently (except Part 8 and 5, which I saw a while back), I have to say the best ones are Part 1, 3, 4, and 7.  Part 1 was the original, and I thought it was done well for that kind of movie.  Part 3 was classic, in 3D, and I think had slightly better characters (biker gang!).  Part 4 was basically Part 3 on steroids!  And Part 7, although I don't like the concept of the story, had great special effects. 

Part 5 I thought was a terrible movie, as well as Part 8 (Part 8 was funner than 5).  Part 2 like I said before had less of an impact, and just seemed worse.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 17, 2012, 07:16:58 AM
Can't win 'em all can you?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jasonmichael on April 17, 2012, 09:49:12 AM
Can't win 'em all can you?

Nope.  ;D 



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on April 17, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
Wow...Just wow.

Never met anyone with so much to say against Part 2.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jasonmichael on April 17, 2012, 02:02:38 PM
Wow...Just wow.

Never met anyone with so much to say against Part 2.

I guess giving a disappointed review of Part 2 on a Part 2 forum was not such a good idea.   ;D

It's not that I'm against part 2, it's that I was expecting it to be just as good as part 1, 3, and 4.  So I was disappointed because my expectations were too high.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on April 17, 2012, 03:07:59 PM
I guess giving a disappointed review of Part 2 on a Part 2 forum was not such a good idea.   ;D

It's not that I'm against part 2, it's that I was expecting it to be just as good as part 1, 3, and 4.  So I was disappointed because my expectations were too high.
No, it's not that. It's just that Part 2 seems to be one of those ones that's universally loved.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jasonmichael on April 17, 2012, 03:41:00 PM
No, it's not that. It's just that Part 2 seems to be one of those ones that's universally loved.

I can see why, considering it was the first movie with Jason, and that it was a continuation of the first one.

But I feel the characters, and just the way the whole movie was done felt lackluster compared to part 1 (and some of the other Parts). 

I do find it interesting, though, that this movie is considered one of the better ones in the series.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: PhenomenalTLD on April 17, 2012, 03:53:46 PM
I have a question. How does everyone know it's Jason's mom's head in the fridge? It doesn't even look like the head from later on in the film where we know it's her head...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on April 17, 2012, 04:18:01 PM
I can see why, considering it was the first movie with Jason, and that it was a continuation of the first one.

But I feel the characters, and just the way the whole movie was done felt lackluster compared to part 1 (and some of the other Parts). 

I do find it interesting, though, that this movie is considered one of the better ones in the series.
Now, I think 3 and 4 are the weak ones, so go figure.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jasonmichael on April 17, 2012, 04:39:16 PM
Now, I think 3 and 4 are the weak ones, so go figure.

I think they're all weak. 

Let's just leave it at that.   8)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 17, 2012, 07:14:57 PM
I have a question. How does everyone know it's Jason's mom's head in the fridge? It doesn't even look like the head from later on in the film where we know it's her head...
Good question.  When I first saw the movie, I thought it was the little kid's head.  Don't ask me why.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on April 17, 2012, 08:00:12 PM
A better question is, why would it be anyone else's head?

Think of the context of the scene and then ask yourself who else it could have possibly been. Mrs. Voorhees is the only answer that makes any sense.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: HockeyMasked on April 17, 2012, 09:31:37 PM
Yep, it does make sense that's Mrs. Voorhees head, according to the context of F13th and the start of this sequence. However I always feel that Jason would have to be to much of a thinker to plan something so elaborate (putting the head in Alice's fridge and then after kiling her, taking it back to the woods with him)... what do you guys think?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: PhenomenalTLD on April 18, 2012, 09:00:18 AM
Yep, it does make sense that's Mrs. Voorhees head, according to the context of F13th and the start of this sequence. However I always feel that Jason would have to be to much of a thinker to plan something so elaborate (putting the head in Alice's fridge and then after kiling her, taking it back to the woods with him)... what do you guys think?
Maybe. I think living Jason was a bit more elaborate than the later undead Jason from part 6 and beyond.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on April 18, 2012, 11:06:27 AM
Yep, it does make sense that's Mrs. Voorhees head, according to the context of F13th and the start of this sequence. However I always feel that Jason would have to be to much of a thinker to plan something so elaborate (putting the head in Alice's fridge and then after kiling her, taking it back to the woods with him)... what do you guys think?
That's why I'm a big fan of this one. Jason actually does some thinking.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 18, 2012, 01:51:27 PM
Yep, it does make sense that's Mrs. Voorhees head, according to the context of F13th and the start of this sequence. However I always feel that Jason would have to be to much of a thinker to plan something so elaborate (putting the head in Alice's fridge and then after kiling her, taking it back to the woods with him)... what do you guys think?
I'd like to know how he got the head there unnoticed.  Jason's not the kind of guy who'd be incognito.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: mike on April 18, 2012, 03:06:16 PM
he's got a thing with carrying heads around... sicko lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: HockeyMasked on April 19, 2012, 02:15:48 AM
That's why I'm a big fan of this one. Jason actually does some thinking.

I feel the same. He's more of a 'real' psycho.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 23, 2012, 01:54:54 PM
I feel the same. He's more of a 'real' psycho.
As opposed to a " fake " one?  Jason thinks all the time, man!!!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 23, 2012, 02:03:04 PM
I have a question. How does everyone know it's Jason's mom's head in the fridge? It doesn't even look like the head from later on in the film where we know it's her head...
Well, the head wasn't refrigerated for freshness the entire time. It decomposed some. I've found stuff way in the back of my fridge that I wasn't really sure what it was. It just makes good sense for it to be Mrs. V's head. Jason probably transported the head in his sack.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 23, 2012, 03:11:34 PM
Well, the head wasn't refrigerated for freshness the entire time. It decomposed some. I've found stuff way in the back of my fridge that I wasn't really sure what it was. It just makes good sense for it to be Mrs. V's head. Jason probably transported the head in his sack.
So what he wearing when he was carrying this head in a sack?  He's gonna stand out pretty well no matter what.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 24, 2012, 04:52:25 AM
So what he wearing when he was carrying this head in a sack?  He's gonna stand out pretty well no matter what.
Even if someone did see him, what are they going to do about it? I think Jason would do his best to ensure there aren't any witnesses.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 24, 2012, 07:16:13 AM
Even if someone did see him, what are they going to do about it? I think Jason would do his best to ensure there aren't any witnesses.
Assuming he sees them, but there are always people looking out windows....


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: mike on April 24, 2012, 01:25:12 PM
Assuming he sees them, but there are always people looking out windows....
There's plenty of people who hear screams and witness things that they don't report lol.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 24, 2012, 01:31:47 PM
Assuming he sees them, but there are always people looking out windows....
I think he could definitely pass for a disfigured drifter so long as he was hauling mommy's head around in his sack and not just carrying it around like a basketball. He ain't so pretty to look at, but at least in part 2 he looks more human than in his later years.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 24, 2012, 02:29:02 PM
There's plenty of people who hear screams and witness things that they don't report lol.
True, but all it takes is one person to report something.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: voorhees55 on July 01, 2012, 09:34:31 PM
 :jason5: this one my favs because i liked how they introduced jason with bag and all.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 02, 2012, 07:50:46 AM
:jason5: this one my favs because i liked how they introduced jason with bag and all.
The bag was awesome.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 03, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Rewatched Part 2 on DVD again last Wednesday. Still FUN.


Happy Fourth of July, everbody!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FunkyNick on July 06, 2012, 10:23:21 AM
So Alice returns to Crystal Lake to deal with her demons.  According to the novel, she had actually been at the camp -- makes sense, that would eliminate Jason having to a) know how to read, b) know how addresses work, c) know how to read a map to get to the address. 

But if she was in the camp, in an isolated setting, then WHY wouldn't he just kill her then and there rather than go so far out of his element as into the city?

Nick's theory time: I think that he'd never killed anyone before, and simply hesitated, psyching himself up for doing the deed.   And then, when he broke into where she was staying, and it went off without a hitch, maybe he realized that actually he kinda enjoyed taking life. 

Otherwise, why would he continue to do so?  Out of some kind of sacrifice to the memory of his mother?  Particularly later on, that doesn't seem plausible, as he ends up in New York among other places. 

I actually like the idea of his being a territorial animal more than anything, where when people invade his space, he kills them, rather than having some kind of beef with teenagers.  In any case, how would he know that the reason why no counselors helped him when he "drowned" was because they were having sex or doing drugs?  He was busy drowning. You can't really multi-task when you're drowning.

I like the theory posed over the past six or so pages, where he did drown, but emerged from the lake as a half-alive/half-dead THING, with regenerative powers.  Being half alive, that would explain how his body was able to grow into an adult form, and as he went through various pain and punishment at the hands of teens that just for whatever reason won't die, he started to lose touch with those things that no longer applied: pain, and indeed any emotional sentiment whatsoever. 

I love characters that grow and change over a series.  :-)

Anyway, that's my two cents...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: James M on July 13, 2012, 02:58:05 PM
Though I feel like the first four Fridays are all equally great parts of one big story, Part 2 is probably my personal favorite of the series (hence the avatar). Let me list the reasons why.

Characters: The best bunch in the series in my opinion. Ginny was the most well developed heroine with her psychological background, which she uses to temporarily fend off Jason. Paul is a likeable character, as are basically all the other counselors. Vicky dying is actually sad to watch, as she came off as a real sweet girl. To sum it up, if I could hang out with any Friday cast of characters, I'd choose these folks.

Direction: Don't really have to go into details here. You know what I'm talking about. Not that Part 1's directing is bad, but Part 2 improved on it, in my opinion. Only flaw though is on the POV shots, Miner had the actors basically look right into the camera, which you'd think would mean they are looking right at Jason. Oh well.

Jason: Jason is damn creepy in this movie. A deranged mongoloid living in the woods and killing anyone who happens upon his "territory." It could really happen, which makes it scary. Jason himself is more realistic here. This makes him more vunerable, but it also makes him more realistically scary.

Kills: These were highly improved over Part 1. While the deaths of Jack (while fake looking) and Mrs. Voorhees were great, there were a couple deaths where people just stood and screamed to take their fate. In Part 2, everything but Terri's death (and even she was caught off guard) and Vicky (see below), they don't see coming. And it's primarily more creative too. I guess I can be called on talking about people standing to take it in Part 1 while Part 2 has Vicky just slowly backing away to get knifed. But that worked very well due to what I said above.

Final chase: Ginny vs. Jason is, to me, the best end chase of the series. Not just for the chase itself, but again, how it was directed. You gotta love stuff like showing the moon, then Ginny running, then the moon, then Jason running. Or how Jason can suddenly be seen in the background through the window, baghead flopping in the darkness as he's running towards the shack.

Ending: I know Jason jumping out from the lake is classic, but I think Part 2 even improved here. I think Jason popping through the window suddenly is a better chair jumper. It was much more effective on me the first time I saw it compared to the first time I saw the Part 1 ending.

Music: I'm not sure if I'd call it better than Part 1's score, but I dig the sort of more manic sound added to it, as well as the sort of voices in the quiet parts in scenes like Ginny fooling Jason (the ooo-ooo type stuff).

One of the top slasher films ever made, no doubt.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Starman on July 13, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Final chase: Ginny vs. Jason is, to me, the best end chase of the series. Not just for the chase itself, but again, how it was directed. You gotta love stuff like showing the moon, then Ginny running, then the moon, then Jason running. Or how Jason can suddenly be seen in the background through the window, baghead flopping in the darkness as he's running towards the shack.

i did like jason chasing ginny scene too and notice jason miss to catch ginny and then he in the ground is totally cracks me up  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: voorhees55 on July 15, 2012, 10:33:10 AM
 :jason5: I always wanted to know why they didnt keep the bag.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 15, 2012, 03:41:56 PM
seeing JV running in the window is probably ny fav scene in the series... it creeps the shit outta me to see him runnin up behind her and shes absolutly clueless to it briefly...ginny is also the smartest heroine IMO.. using her child pshycology on him..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 15, 2012, 07:28:54 PM
His face looks much better in 2 than in 3. Realistic.

I never get tired of watchin this one.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 16, 2012, 05:44:21 PM
seeing JV running in the window is probably ny fav scene in the series... it creeps the shit outta me to see him runnin up behind her and shes absolutly clueless to it briefly...ginny is also the smartest heroine IMO.. using her child pshycology on him..
I think the funniest part of the whole chase is when Ginny's head is plainly sticking out over the hood of the VW, and Jason STILL DOESN'T SEE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 17, 2012, 09:58:46 AM
I think the funniest part of the whole chase is when Ginny's head is plainly sticking out over the hood of the VW, and Jason STILL DOESN'T SEE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol for reals.. i also love when ginny cracks him in thre nuts.. he recovers quite quickly for a shot square in the nuts...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 17, 2012, 02:39:09 PM
lol for reals.. i also love when ginny cracks him in thre nuts.. he recovers quite quickly for a shot square in the nuts...
You wouldn't think he'd run real well, wouldn't you?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 17, 2012, 03:48:18 PM
You wouldn't think he'd run real well, wouldn't you?

he seems to run fine to me in pts 2-4.. i like the 'alive" JV more than "undead" JV... running builds adrenaline when i watch..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 20, 2012, 07:17:16 PM
he seems to run fine to me in pts 2-4.. i like the 'alive" JV more than "undead" JV... running builds adrenaline when i watch..
Being kicked in the groin isn't great for most people's running though.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on July 21, 2012, 11:15:26 AM
Being kicked in the groin isn't great for most people's running though.
You forget who we're talking about here. Jason's really tough and recovers quite quickly whether it be a kick in the nuts or a stab wound. Only phases him for a minute.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 21, 2012, 11:29:56 PM
You forget who we're talking about here. Jason's really tough and recovers quite quickly whether it be a kick in the nuts or a stab wound. Only phases him for a minute.
Great plot device, don't you think?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 22, 2012, 11:39:29 AM
Being kicked in the groin isn't great for most people's running though.

ahh my bad..i thought were talking about him running in general..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 23, 2012, 06:01:56 PM
ahh my bad..i thought were talking about him running in general..
That's ok. 


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FunkyNick on July 28, 2012, 11:33:00 AM
Maybe we should start a whole new thread and call it "Jason's Nuts" -- I think there's a lot to contemplate here.

Actually, one of the things I don't get is why Jason, even when he is alive, is not a sexual being in the slightest.  The camp counselors are all a bunch of horny little rabbits, but Jason, who's been in the woods all his life, he doesn't seem to much care there are nekkid ladies all over his camp.  I guess you could argue that the weapons are in their way phallic, and that's he's running around penetrating guys and girls alike with equal vigor, but c'mon...and the way he lays out the dead bodies in his shrine to his mother?  That suggests he's holding on to those bodies for a reason.

Although I suppose having a necrophiliac Jason might have been a bit too strong for the teenage audience they were aiming for when these films were released....

FRIDAY THE 13TH PART IX: Jason Gone Wild

Yeah...OK, maybe that's a terrible idea.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Lynch on August 06, 2012, 08:34:56 PM
You forget who we're talking about here. Jason's really tough and recovers quite quickly whether it be a kick in the nuts or a stab wound. Only phases him for a minute.

Yeah, but. A kick in the balls, is a kick in the balls.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on August 09, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
Yeah, but. A kick in the balls, is a kick in the balls.
Only a guy can understand.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on September 06, 2012, 03:24:48 AM
A kick on the nuts put Jason on the ground on Friday 2. In Friday 9 he didn't even seem to feel the kick in the balls he got.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on September 08, 2012, 06:15:41 AM
A kick on the nuts put Jason on the ground on Friday 2. In Friday 9 he didn't even seem to feel the kick in the balls he got.
And he probably didn't.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 15, 2012, 10:26:00 PM
Didn't Freddy try to kick him there in F Vs J?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 15, 2012, 11:14:50 PM
A kick on the nuts put Jason on the ground on Friday 2. In Friday 9 he didn't even seem to feel the kick in the balls he got.
In pt2 Jason was still human and could feel pain and even fear .
By pt9 he was a zombie or something else entirely . That's why i prefer the earlier films and the 2009 remake .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on December 16, 2012, 09:10:06 AM
In pt2 Jason was still human and could feel pain and even fear .
By pt9 he was a zombie or something else entirely . That's why i prefer the earlier films and the 2009 remake .
glad I'm not the only one.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 16, 2012, 12:53:20 PM
glad I'm not the only one.
You're not alone by a long shot , my horror brother !!!

I often wonder if the fans merely 'put up' with the later entries because they liked these movies ? Does Jason as a zombie really scare anyone , or should he have stayed as a deranged and deformed human mongoloid ?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on December 16, 2012, 02:45:05 PM
You're not alone by a long shot , my horror brother !!!

I often wonder if the fans merely 'put up' with the later entries because they liked these movies ? Does Jason as a zombie really scare anyone , or should he have stayed as a deranged and deformed human mongoloid ?
Deranged and deformed = one scary man!!!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 16, 2012, 03:53:45 PM
Deranged and deformed = one scary man!!!!
Total agreement with you on that !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 22, 2012, 11:31:31 PM
I love the hockey mask but the bag scares the bejeebus out of me! Just proved Jason made everything they put on him scary u know?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 22, 2012, 11:59:42 PM
Jason was terrifying with the bag look . He had some great scary moments wearing the hockey mask too.
It's really a win for the audience either way !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on December 23, 2012, 07:29:16 AM
Jason was terrifying with the bag look . He had some great scary moments wearing the hockey mask too.
It's really a win for the audience either way !
Just get me some popcorm and I'm all set, man.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 23, 2012, 04:35:12 PM
I've always said that i'd take a 'bad' Jason movie over most others in any genre .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on December 23, 2012, 05:43:34 PM
Even JGTH or JasonX?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 23, 2012, 06:10:47 PM
Even JGTH or JasonX?
In some ways , yes .
Even though those are my two least entries in the series , I'd rather watch them than say 'The Notebook' or 'Transformers' for example .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on December 24, 2012, 04:38:10 AM
So you're picky about your lousy movies?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on December 26, 2012, 02:37:47 PM
The words good and bad are subjective. Some people think Jason Goes to Hell is a bad movie. I think it is a good movie. The same goes for Jason X.

Personally, I do not think there is a such thing as a bad Jason movie.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 05, 2013, 05:06:22 PM
So you're picky about your lousy movies?
Nah , i just meant that i'd rather watch Jason than stuff the general public would consider to be 'blockbusters'


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 05, 2013, 05:07:29 PM
The words good and bad are subjective. Some people think Jason Goes to Hell is a bad movie. I think it is a good movie. The same goes for Jason X.

Personally, I do not think there is a such thing as a bad Jason movie.
Amen to this post !
We all have our favs , but a Jason movie beats almost everything else out there , right out of the gate !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on January 06, 2013, 09:00:24 AM
Nah , i just meant that i'd rather watch Jason than stuff the general public would consider to be 'blockbusters'
You mean like the Twilight movies????


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 06, 2013, 01:14:52 PM
I've never seen any of the following "essential" movies :
Twilight series , Harry Potter series , Lord of the Rings series , Shrek series , etc...

I guess i go against the norm that way ?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on January 06, 2013, 03:07:38 PM
I've never seen any of the following "essential" movies :
Twilight series , Harry Potter series , Lord of the Rings series , Shrek series , etc...

I guess I go against the norm that way ?
So do I.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on January 06, 2013, 03:13:46 PM
I've never seen any of the following "essential" movies :
Twilight series , Harry Potter series , Lord of the Rings series , Shrek series , etc...

I guess i go against the norm that way ?

I've never seen Harry Potter...I LOVE Shrek and LOTR...and actually just saw Twilight for the first time last week. I refused for so long but I liked it ok.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 06, 2013, 03:34:21 PM
I almost watched one of the Twilight movies on tv the other night , but decided against it .
If i'm gonna do it i'll get a dvd copy for the full experience .

I'm a Star Wars buff too and i like special effects and science fiction , so i'm surprised i haven't seen LOTR ?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on January 06, 2013, 03:56:45 PM
I almost watched one of the Twilight movies on tv the other night , but decided against it .
If i'm gonna do it i'll get a dvd copy for the full experience .

I'm a Star Wars buff too and i like special effects and science fiction , so i'm surprised i haven't seen LOTR ?
I've never seen The WizARD OF oZ, SO DON'T FEEL BAD.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 06, 2013, 04:23:58 PM
Wow , that one really is a classic . I get your point though .
It's all good .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 07, 2013, 11:16:50 PM

A lot of people seem to dislike the ending to this film, but I never had a problem with it. I kind of wish they would've shown Mrs. Vorhees face smiling but I in a way it's a little bit creepier without it. I think part 2 is the best in the series. It actually surpasses the original by a long shot.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 08, 2013, 12:10:42 AM
A lot of people seem to dislike the ending to this film, but I never had a problem with it. I kind of wish they would've shown Mrs. Vorhees face smiling but I in a way it's a little bit creepier without it. I think part 2 is the best in the series. It actually surpasses the original by a long shot.
I agree with you and like the way you think !!!
Awesome .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on January 08, 2013, 12:55:47 PM
What is there not to like about a rotting head stairing at you?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 08, 2013, 03:09:00 PM

Good to know I'm not the only who likes the ending.  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 08, 2013, 06:47:15 PM
Good to know I'm not the only who likes the ending.  ;D
Not by a long shot !
The whole film was brilliant IMO .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on January 08, 2013, 06:57:34 PM
What is there not to like about a rotting head stairing at you?
When it's the last thing you see while you are still alive.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 08, 2013, 07:05:23 PM
When it's the last thing you see while you are still alive.
Sounds like quote from "Madman" !!
I just bought the 30th anniversary dvd .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 08, 2013, 07:16:58 PM
Not by a long shot !
The whole film was brilliant IMO .

Yeah, it made the first one look pretty weak by comparison. The pacing was better, the acting was better, the characters were better, the suspense was better, and the score was better. The first film is just boring. But I will say the first film does have a better ending. Jason jumping out of the lake is classic.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 08, 2013, 07:21:37 PM
Lots of folks say that the first F13th and Halloween flicks were slow moving and boring . Then again , millions of people love those films too .

I thought F13th pt 2 was great from start to finish . Better than the first one on every level you mentioned .
But you didn't like the ending of Jason crashing through the window ???

That scene has scarred me for life ! :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 08, 2013, 07:49:48 PM
Lots of folks say that the first F13th and Halloween flicks were slow moving and boring . Then again , millions of people love those films too .

I thought F13th pt 2 was great from start to finish . Better than the first one on every level you mentioned .
But you didn't like the ending of Jason crashing through the window ???

That scene has scarred me for life ! :)

Don't get me wrong I love that scene, but I just like the Jason jumping out of the water better.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 08, 2013, 09:55:16 PM
It's all good !
Both scenes were very effective . The lake jump it pt 1 was spectacular ! By comparison , the intended scare generated by the same motif at the end of pt 3 , fell very flat .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 08, 2013, 10:09:05 PM

yeah, I didn't like the one from part 3 at all. I wish they would've kept the original ending where Chris gets her head chopped off. I still want to see that one day.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 08, 2013, 10:17:44 PM
I love the movie though ! Part 3 was a fav of mine .
The end scare was a bit lame , but i'd also love to see the lost footage of the decapitation .
Maybe one day ?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 08, 2013, 10:23:52 PM

Oh yeah part 3 is my third favorite. It was the first one I ever saw and it scared the crap out of me. We used have this little tv and we only got three channels and they showed part 3 at midnight. The memories.... :jason3:


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 08, 2013, 10:25:22 PM
We all have memories of seeing these flicks ! Very cool indeed .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: scabboy on January 12, 2013, 03:56:31 PM
This movie was obviously making Jason out to be a survivalist-style hunter\gatherer\vagrant\transient style person. No matter where the movies took us after it, Alice was killed by Jason.

Jason could have been stalking her for lord knows how long. Jason was made to be in this film, pretty astute. He made snares, drove the deputy's car, built a house, etc. Even in Part III Jason was made to have been staying at Higgins Haven inside the cabin (that part of the script never made it to film), eating, sleeping, etc.

Jason obviously knew the area and we have no idea how far the community Alice was staying in was away from the woods. For all we know it's only a mile or two away.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 12, 2013, 05:00:29 PM
You make a lot of good points . Your description of Jason in this movie was spot on , and these are the reasons that pt 2 is my all time favorite .

Cheers :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 12, 2013, 06:34:09 PM

I love the opening of the movie when the little girl is playing "itsy bitsy spider" in the water and then has to go inside her house and then Jason's boot steps into the water. And the ki,ki,ki starts up. That sounds really good on a surround system.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 13, 2013, 02:06:33 AM
The intro scene is what sucked me in at first , as a kid ! It seems so innocent . The girl is playing without a care in the world and she's oblivious to the fact the Jason is nearby ...

For some reason this scene never gets old to me , with the contrast between wholesome child and demented killer . We all know what happens next !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 13, 2013, 02:15:41 AM

That's a great summary for that little scene. You  hit it right on the dot.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 13, 2013, 02:20:42 AM
It's my favorite horror movie . From start to finish it's got all the elements that i love about the genre .
That opening scene was fantastic ! Quite the thrill for me when i first saw it , and everytime since .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: scabboy on January 13, 2013, 01:41:16 PM
I love 1-5 and all hold a special place in my heart. I think Part 2 is great and it's impossible to top the 2,3,4 trio.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on January 13, 2013, 03:26:14 PM
I love 1-5 and all hold a special place in my heart. I think Part 2 is great and it's impossible to top the 2,3,4 trio.

The original 4 are great, I cant say the same for part 5.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 13, 2013, 08:05:33 PM
I love 1-5 and all hold a special place in my heart. I think Part 2 is great and it's impossible to top the 2,3,4 trio.
I have to agree , but i'd include pt 1 on the 'hard to top' list .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 13, 2013, 08:22:13 PM

Part 1 sadly is on my bottom list. I just find it very boring. Usually when I watch it I'm skipping through most of it to get to the gore/sex scenes and the ending.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 13, 2013, 08:30:38 PM
It does take a while to get to the good stuff .
To me it's a good movie for setting up the series and the ending lake scare !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 13, 2013, 08:50:38 PM

I also like the music and the Mrs. Vorhees stuff too. Its not a horrible film by any means but the pacing is off.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 13, 2013, 09:10:10 PM
I find that other horror movies are like that too . Takes a while to get the action started .
With the original F13th they were going out on a limb and not every scene was supposed to be a gore shot .

They wouldn't have had the money to do that even if they wanted to .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 13, 2013, 09:23:27 PM

I wasn't expecting gore in every scene but I guess I didn't care for the characters to much in that film like I did for the one's in part 2. I liked Alice but that's about it. Maybe that's why it feels so slow to me.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 13, 2013, 09:57:20 PM
After the intro of the camp kids being killed i thought the whole movie was gonna be off the hook !

Sadly after the chase scene and then death of Annie , the movie took a long time to get interesting . I didn't care too much for the characters either , not like i did in pt 2 .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 14, 2013, 07:43:03 AM

Yeah the middle act is a tough one to get through in the first Friday the 13th. Part 2 starts off with a bang and never lets up until the final shot of Mrs. Vorhees face.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 14, 2013, 11:33:42 AM
Part 2 was a non stop thrill ride . To me it has never been topped in the whole franchise's catalog .
Steve Miner did an outstanding job !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: scabboy on January 14, 2013, 02:39:53 PM
Part II was pieced together well, I agree. It had a lot of aspects that I look for in horror and I liked being taken away from the "danger" area to a place where we know we are safe. I also liked that the movie took its heroine away from the danger for the entire movie (aside from the start and end). Its rare that it happens that way. Generally the end heroes make themselves likable throughout the movie so at the end you can cheer. Paul and Ginny were very well made characters, but we still loved them.

One gripe with the movie would be that we never knew what happened to ted!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 15, 2013, 12:19:50 AM
I always thought that Ted should've been brought back for more in the later films ...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on January 15, 2013, 06:49:17 AM
I always thought that Ted should've been brought back for more in the later films ...

They should have had Ted hunting Jason instead of Creighton Duke. :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on January 15, 2013, 12:20:28 PM
Ted went to that "after hours place" and actually survived. How is that for irony? Ted (and a lot of those other councelors) were actually SAVED by alcohol.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Pablo on January 15, 2013, 01:23:25 PM

does anyone else think that at the start of the movie that it might be a copy cat killer that kills alice?
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Is it possible that it was Roy from part 5 that killed her, but idk if he has a reason to kill her but could have known her from her being at the hospital at the end of part 1


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 15, 2013, 01:27:55 PM
Ted went to that "after hours place" and actually survived. How is that for irony? Ted (and a lot of those other councelors) were actually SAVED by alcohol.
I always wanted to see the aftermath of that . Having the survivors find out about the murders and maybe even showing them returning later to the camp ...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 16, 2013, 05:34:57 PM

In the novel doesn't it tell what happened with Ted? I swore somewhere I heard it did.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 16, 2013, 11:37:31 PM
In the novel doesn't it tell what happened with Ted? I swore somewhere I heard it did.
I haven't read the novel . I had hoped that someone on here owned it and could tell us some of it's contents . Not that the movies always follow the books , but hearing some of the written stuff could help us make our judgments with some of the questions we have from the films ...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Pablo on January 16, 2013, 11:49:11 PM
did the novels come out before the movies?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 16, 2013, 11:53:08 PM
I'm not sure ? My guess would be 'no' , because the films were made so rapidly when a new one was green lit due to the profits earned by each prior movie .

I think each novel came later . Much like any kind of merchandise tied to these films .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: JDW89 on January 17, 2013, 07:43:52 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Friday-13th-Part-II-Novel/dp/0451153375/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1358469779&sr=1-1&keywords=friday+the+13th+part+2 (http://www.amazon.com/Friday-13th-Part-II-Novel/dp/0451153375/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1358469779&sr=1-1&keywords=friday+the+13th+part+2) That's outrageously expensive.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 17, 2013, 08:17:36 PM

Good LORD a new copy for $800!!!!! Now $60 for the used copy is starting to look good.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 29, 2013, 04:30:59 PM
I saw that too ! What an insane price to be asking . I wonder if the seller has got any hits for that book ?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 29, 2013, 05:48:09 PM

Doubtful. That's a house payment right there.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 29, 2013, 05:55:28 PM
Doubtful. That's a house payment right there.
Very true !
The seller is asking that for a reason though , i wonder it that's market value for that item ? Seems waaay too  high to me !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 29, 2013, 06:08:19 PM
Very true !
The seller is asking that for a reason though , i wonder it that's market value for that item ? Seems waaay too  high to me !

To be honest he's just looking for a desperate fan to buy it for that much. He'll never find one...at least I hope not. Because at the end of the day all you're paying for is paper and ink.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 29, 2013, 06:14:41 PM
I guess there's a market for everything as long as someone is willing to pay the price .
There's no way i'd fork over that much scratch for a novel ..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 29, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
I guess there's a market for everything as long as someone is willing to pay the price .
There's no way i'd fork over that much scratch for a novel ..


If someone paid that much for that book this is the look I'd give them.

the Hamster Stare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uV5-XiwjrI#)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 29, 2013, 06:25:32 PM
LOL that's about right !

To each their own , i guess .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Pablo on January 29, 2013, 10:07:31 PM
now ill never get a hamster

or a $800 novel


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: scabboy on January 30, 2013, 09:20:32 PM
For people who collect OOP and rare books, this may be for them...
I had every F13th novel and I sold them in one lot for something like $80.
Wish I would have kept them!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 02, 2013, 06:08:04 PM
For people who collect OOP and rare books, this may be for them...
I had every F13th novel and I sold them in one lot for something like $80.
Wish I would have kept them!
You could've made a fortune !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on February 02, 2013, 06:09:08 PM

I wish they would just re-release. I just want to read is all. Is that to much to ask?  :'(


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 02, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
Not at all . I kind of wish they would too .
I'd like to read the whole series actually .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 07, 2013, 09:50:33 AM
They never did novels for the whole series. They did them for the first three, including two versions of Part 3, and Jason Lives.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 07, 2013, 02:53:10 PM
They never did novels for the whole series. They did them for the first three, including two versions of Part 3, and Jason Lives.
I didn't know that ?
Thanks , Rich .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Pablo on February 11, 2013, 09:55:56 PM
what happened to the sack used in part 2? i bet it would be worth a ton of money!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 11, 2013, 11:54:36 PM
what happened to the sack used in part 2? i bet it would be worth a ton of money!
That's a GREAT question !
I've never thought about it , and you're probably right about its value ...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 12, 2013, 03:35:44 AM
I didn't know that ?
Thanks , Rich .

You are welcome. They also did ones for Jason X, including sequels in novel form, and a Freddy vs. Jason one.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 15, 2013, 03:44:22 PM
You are welcome. They also did ones for Jason X, including sequels in novel form, and a Freddy vs. Jason one.
What were the two versions for pt 3 , do you know ?
I would almost assume it to be for one with the lost ending with Chris' decapitation .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 16, 2013, 12:28:06 PM
I never read either one of them, so I couldn't tell you, but I do know that two different authors released a novelization of Friday 3.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 16, 2013, 12:40:00 PM
That's interesting !
I'm going to try and look up some of those novels . The more i think about it , the more i want to get my hands on them !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 17, 2013, 07:34:17 AM
That's interesting !
I'm going to try and look up some of those novels . The more i think about it , the more i want to get my hands on them !

So did I till I saw the prices...ouch!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 17, 2013, 01:52:26 PM
Ebay has the novel for pt 1 -$99.00
pt 6 -$60.00

Amazon has the same novels for much cheaper , plus i found both versions for pt 3 .
Still haven't ordered any though .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on February 17, 2013, 05:44:06 PM

I keep a look out at used books stores all the time. I did see the part 6 novel one time but didn't get it.  :( I feel like such a jackass now.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 17, 2013, 05:45:18 PM
I keep a look out at used books stores all the time. I did see the part 6 novel one time but didn't get it.  :( I feel like such a jackass now.

"Boy, are you dumb!" - Chris


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on February 17, 2013, 05:50:21 PM
"Boy, are you dumb!" - Chris

"Yeah, I know I'm just some dumb country boy with no feelings." - Rick


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 17, 2013, 05:51:48 PM
"Yeah, I know I'm just some dumb country boy with no feelings." - Rick

Well. Played.  8)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on February 17, 2013, 05:54:36 PM
Well. Played.  8)

I thought you like that comeback. It's the most logical comeback.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 17, 2013, 05:55:53 PM
I thought you like that comeback. It's the most logical comeback.

Where can I find a dumb country boy w no feelings?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 17, 2013, 05:57:58 PM
I keep a look out at used books stores all the time. I did see the part 6 novel one time but didn't get it.  :( I feel like such a jackass now.
I'm interested in the parts that deal with Elias .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on February 17, 2013, 06:00:57 PM
Where can I find a dumb country boy w no feelings?

Right here.  8)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 17, 2013, 06:01:29 PM
Right here.  8)

Wait....how dumb are you?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 17, 2013, 06:02:37 PM
Right here.  8)
Careful what you wish for .And cover your eyes ... LOL


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 17, 2013, 06:03:49 PM
Careful what you wish for .And cover your eyes ... LOL

COVER UR EYES! How friggin repulsive am I? Remind me not to play monopoly w u...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 17, 2013, 06:09:23 PM
COVER UR EYES! How friggin repulsive am I? Remind me not to play monopoly w u...
You're gorgeous .

I was referring to Rick's eye popping scene . You wanted a country boy ...
Strip Monopoly is so 1981 . I like naked Twister  :P


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 17, 2013, 06:12:16 PM
You're gorgeous .

I was referring to Rick's eye popping scene . You wanted a country boy ...
Strip Monopoly is so 1981 . I like naked Twister  :P


I have actually never watched the eye pop. Not once.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 17, 2013, 06:15:14 PM
I have actually never watched the eye pop. Not once.
WTF ??

How is that possible ? It's THE talked about scene from that movie !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 17, 2013, 06:16:01 PM
WTF ??

How is that possible ? It's THE talked about scene from that movie !

I have a MAJOR eyeball "thing." Just...no.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on February 17, 2013, 08:41:04 PM
Wait....how dumb are you?

I guess as dumb as they come.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 17, 2013, 08:41:42 PM
I guess as dumb as they come.

Impressive.  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 17, 2013, 11:25:25 PM
I have a MAJOR eyeball "thing." Just...no.
Suddenly i don't feel so silly about our prior Jamie sister/niece thing . :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 18, 2013, 07:32:16 AM
Suddenly i don't feel so silly about our prior Jamie sister/niece thing . :)

That was awesome...if Betty didn't speak up you'd still be all "UH HUUUU!!! He did too knock his sister up!!!"


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 18, 2013, 10:54:22 AM
That was awesome...if Betty didn't speak up you'd still be all "UH HUUUU!!! He did too knock his sister up!!!"
God Bless BJ Betty ... lol



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 18, 2013, 10:55:26 AM
God Bless BJ Betty ... lol



Indeed.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 18, 2013, 11:03:09 AM
I know this thread is for the original pt 2 , but are there any snippets of info on the pt 2 remake we've been waiting for ?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Marie on February 18, 2013, 11:05:44 AM
I know this thread is for the original pt 2 , but are there any snippets of info on the pt 2 remake we've been waiting for ?

I wish...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 23, 2013, 01:11:44 PM
I know this thread is for the original pt 2 , but are there any snippets of info on the pt 2 remake we've been waiting for ?

I think it is safe to say that the project is officially dead.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 23, 2013, 01:42:34 PM
Have you heard anything , or just guessing because of the long wait ?
I haven't heard news one way or the other .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 23, 2013, 01:51:04 PM
Since there has been no new information on this project in four years, I am just pretty much coming to my own conclusion that it is a dead project.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 23, 2013, 01:54:17 PM
It sure seems that way doesn't it ?
I can't figure out why they've dropped the ball on this . They had some good momentum in 2009/10.

The fans want it to happen .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 23, 2013, 01:57:47 PM
It had great momentum with the 2009 film opening up at number 1 and all that. Since then, the slasher genre has been kind of slow. Texas Chainsaw 3D opening up at number 1 I think may just help the slasher genre regain some interest. With that film, they went back to the original franchise, despite the remake. I wonder if other franchises will do that now.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 23, 2013, 02:01:34 PM
I hope this is just the calm before the storm !

With the last F13th , NOES and TCM movies having done so well , it doesn't make sense why the anticipated follow up films haven't happened yet .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: scabboy on March 02, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
I believe that the great opening of F13 2009 was a fluke. It was released and it garnered a lot of interest from non-genre fans. I think the second week was more true to how many fans there are of the franchise.

People go for name recognition and that helps, but it isn't enough.



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 04, 2013, 06:11:55 PM
I didn't think that the remake got an abundance of hype .

The die hards knew about it , but there wasn't a mass media ceremony about it's release . Not in my neck of the woods anyway .

Opening weekend success for these films isn't a fluke , it's a marketing strategy and a way of life in the horror industry .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on March 05, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
Hollywood had a huge premier for it. The trailers were all over on tv. The name, character, date, and marketing all helped the film have the huge opening it did. It was not a fluke, but typical opening weekend for a horror film. Texas Chainsaw 2013 and A Nightmare on Elm Street 2010 were the same story. Horror films always have big opening weekends and then drop off.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 05, 2013, 03:11:44 PM
Hollywood had a huge premier for it. The trailers were all over on tv. The name, character, date, and marketing all helped the film have the huge opening it did. It was not a fluke, but typical opening weekend for a horror film. Texas Chainsaw 2013 and A Nightmare on Elm Street 2010 were the same story. Horror films always have big opening weekends and then drop off.
We got less of the Hollywood treatment in Ontario Canada .
At least from what i remember , and i knew about the release date for the movie .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on March 22, 2013, 11:09:43 PM
Hope the next time that MTV gives it more promotion. Last time it was sad how little they seemed to promote it u know?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 30, 2013, 01:54:14 PM
Hope the next time that MTV gives it more promotion. Last time it was sad how little they seemed to promote it u know?
I hope so too !
A new F13th sequel would prove that the remake/reboot wasn't a one off fluke . To that end , i hope the producers really try to hype the new franchise and promote the hell out of it .

Keep Jason in the public eye and treat him like the icon he truly is .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: wheres paul on March 31, 2013, 04:43:20 PM
I guess I am in the minority, but I wouldn't mind a sequel, in 2455, that ties up all the originial Paramount movies with JX. We could let Jason Goes to Hell, and fvsj STAND ALONE.

Oh, and it would be DTV. Don't want the MPAA to mess with the series any longer. Just me.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 31, 2013, 05:30:05 PM
I guess I am in the minority, but I wouldn't mind a sequel, in 2455, that ties up all the originial Paramount movies with JX. We could let Jason Goes to Hell, and fvsj STAND ALONE.

Oh, and it would be DTV. Don't want the MPAA to mess with the series any longer. Just me.
I'm gonna say that yup , you're in the minority ! LOL

Good call on the MPAA though :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 03, 2013, 03:06:54 PM
MPAA needs an overhaul badly. People should be on the board who are impartial for the most part, especially since it seems a lot of the people who have served seem to despise the horror genre. The New Blood is definitely proof of that.

I hope they keep being released in Theatres. There's just something about the experience of watching these movies in the cinemas.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 03, 2013, 03:12:25 PM
It would be great if they had members who actually liked the genre .
Can you imagine what we'd see onscreen ?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 03, 2013, 03:26:15 PM
I don't know why they pick the members they do. How do they pick them?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: DUKE1 on April 03, 2013, 03:41:44 PM
I don't know why they pick the members they do. How do they pick them?
Check out a pretty good Documentary called "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" came out in 06 i think. dont remember if they say how exactly they get picked, but does shine some light on the MPAA.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 03, 2013, 05:02:21 PM
I remember that movie although i never saw it .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 03, 2013, 05:35:54 PM
However they do it the system needs an overhaul ASAP. It feels like they have a vendetta against horror movie and if they're supposed to be impartial then that's not right.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 03, 2013, 07:47:06 PM
However they do it the system needs an overhaul ASAP. It feels like they have a vendetta against horror movie and if they're supposed to be impartial then that's not right.
They seem to really dislike Friday the 13th movies.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 03, 2013, 08:23:22 PM
They don't seem to like Wes Craven either. I know he's had problems with them too.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 03, 2013, 10:05:56 PM
However they do it the system needs an overhaul ASAP. It feels like they have a vendetta against horror movie and if they're supposed to be impartial then that's not right.
It's the same as the folks who are anti smoking , drinking , premarital sex , swearing , etc.

They are anything but impartial IMO .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 04, 2013, 01:30:20 PM
Movies these days get away with a hell of a lot more then they used to. Plus today you have uncut DVDs and Blu-rays so the MPAA has lost a lot of ground. Back in the 80s, when they made you cut something, some of the footage was lost forever because there was no such thing as a DVD. Today, they can make you cut it, but the whole world is going to see the footage in like four months anyway, so they let a lot more go now. Basically, because of the DVD and Blu-ray market, the MPAA has been rendered powerless, because they can make you cut theatrical releases all they want but unrated DVDs is another story. That might be why they have seemed to have thrown in the towel and allow a lot more now a days. Look at how much they allowed films like Dawn of the Dead, Land of the Dead, Texas Chainsaw, Friday the 13th, Freddy vs. Jason, Texas Chainsaw 3D to get away with, even the R rated versions.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 04, 2013, 04:51:29 PM
You made a strong case with those facts , Rich .
I like the unrated dvd stuff we get today . The fans don't have to miss out on anything . It would still be nice to see some of the bonus feature footage on the big screen , as part of the actual movie !


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 07, 2013, 07:09:15 PM
They don't seem to like Wes Craven either. I know he's had problems with them too.
You seem to be correct.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 09, 2013, 12:11:16 AM
I think Wes Craven and Tom Savini probably had some wars with the MPAA in the past.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 13, 2013, 12:14:47 AM
I think the director of The New Blood got hit hardest when he was making his movie.

They should have 4 horror fans and 4 non horror fans be on the ratings board for horror movies. That's the only way I can see to make it more fair towards the genre.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 13, 2013, 01:45:25 PM
I do not even think the MPAA is needed once a film reaches the level of rated R. If a studio wants a film to be PG-13 or lower, then I can see why they are needed, but if a film is going for an R rating, you don't even need them.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 13, 2013, 03:12:51 PM
The MPAA is just taking good care of us. They LOVE us and want what's best for us.

No shit, once you get up to an R rating, you have to be 17 to watch anyway, at least at the theaters. So they're pretty much just telling a bunch of grown adults and 17 years olds what they should and should not watch. Fucking dickwads!

Rich, I hereby give you my vote to take over the MPAA.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Gash on April 13, 2013, 03:37:44 PM
It's just a group of asshole that thinks they know what's good for everyone they won't even come forward with there identities. I saw a show or documentary on it and none of them would even go in front of a camera or show there face. It's useless the movie theateres themselves should be able to tell if someone is too young for a movie. Hell I was like 12-13 renting rated r movies from blockbuster by myself they only asked if my parents knew and I was like that's my dad's card he knows what I'm doing.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 13, 2013, 11:19:09 PM
I do not even think the MPAA is needed once a film reaches the level of rated R. If a studio wants a film to be PG-13 or lower, then I can see why they are needed, but if a film is going for an R rating, you don't even need them.

I'll second that emotion. Personally I think they need to make the R and PG-13 ratings stronger.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 15, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
The MPAA is just taking good care of us. They LOVE us and want what's best for us.

No shit, once you get up to an R rating, you have to be 17 to watch anyway, at least at the theaters. So they're pretty much just telling a bunch of grown adults and 17 years olds what they should and should not watch. Fucking dickwads!

Rich, I hereby give you my vote to take over the MPAA.
Why can't it be ME that takes over?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 16, 2013, 06:43:31 PM
Why can't it be ME that takes over?
I'm all about playing fair. You and Rich can rock, paper, scissors to see who gets to take over.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 17, 2013, 01:17:41 PM
Why can't it be ME that takes over?

Punisher, we can BOTH take it over. As a matter of fact, I would be willing to bet that we should get more community members in on this take over. I hear the MPAA is a pretty sizable group of people. We could use a nice little army of hockey masked wearing machete sharpening warriors to battle for our cause.  8)

STORM THE MPAA!

LIGHT YOUR TORCHES!

SHARPEN YOUR MACHETES! AND GO!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 17, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
Punisher, we can BOTH take it over. As a matter of fact, I would be willing to bet that we should get more community members in on this take over. I hear the MPAA is a pretty sizable group of people. We could use a nice little army of hockey masked wearing machete sharpening warriors to battle for our cause.  8)

STORM THE MPAA!

LIGHT YOUR TORCHES!

SHARPEN YOUR MACHETES! AND GO!
Sorry i'm late for the party , but count me in !!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Ramse on April 18, 2013, 06:11:09 AM
Me too!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 21, 2013, 10:35:22 PM
I remember when PG-13 used to mean something. It really needs an overhaul. I'm watching Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. That's definitely one of the only times I feel the rating was correct u know?

Pretty funny how movies like Army Of Darkness would be rated PG-13 today. It was an R back then but I feel like the board had a problem with Raimi for releasing the first two Evil Deads unrated because the ratings board gave him headaches. AOD is no more violent than Raimi's Spider-Man movies IMHO.

Pt 2 was pretty violent but compared to R rated horror today it's not nearly at the level as those r. I still love 2 though but u can tell they cracked the whip majorly on Jason's first full outing huh?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 22, 2013, 03:13:16 PM
If Part 2 was released today it still would be R because of the wonderful full frontal.  :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 22, 2013, 04:52:51 PM
I wouldn't mind if it still got the R but put more blood in. Jason revels in the red stuff.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 22, 2013, 07:17:59 PM
I wouldn't mind if it still got the R but put more blood in. Jason revels in the red stuff.
I feel the same way .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 24, 2013, 01:31:10 PM
TV Guide Network did a countdown of the 20 sequels better than the first. If I saw correctly they listed Friday The 13th Part 2 as number 16!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MarkRooster on April 24, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
The MPAA seems to do a better job these days; they were kind of all over the place in the eighties.  The one thing I've noticed in the last fifteen-plus years is that they don't like blood.  A movie can have lots of violence and get a PG-13 rating, but when the red stuff comes out, it's more likely an R.  

The two-for-one bed impaling in Part 2 would still warrant an R rating nowadays, as would the machete across the throat and the machete in Mark's face.

And speaking of Indiana Jones--look at the difference in the way people take a bullet in Raiders or Temple of Doom, compared to Crystal Skull.  I'd go so far as to suggest you couldn't show that many bloody bullet hits in a PG-13 movie with today's MPAA.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 24, 2013, 06:00:46 PM
TV Guide Network did a countdown of the 20 sequels better than the first. If I saw correctly they listed Friday The 13th Part 2 as number 16!
That's awesome !
Considering the amount of movies out there , it's nice to see F13th pt 2 get some credibility , of sorts .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 25, 2013, 01:14:04 AM
I thought they were gonna say Pt 4 since that seems to be the one that collectively gets the best reviews. Happy that Pt 2 got it thiugh.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on April 25, 2013, 05:53:20 AM
I don't know if I would consider any of the sequels better the. The original, but I think if you asked me what the key sequel is I would say Part 2 as a horror film and The Final Chapter as a pop culture film. I would also say that Jason Lives probably is another pop culture film, along with the obvious Freddy vs Jason.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 29, 2013, 12:08:38 AM
I love them all but The Final Chapter is my favorite. Part 2 definitely holds a special place in my heart though. First time we meet Jason and the many deaths that are even more inventive than the original. These movies keep getting better and better. Even the end was a great cliffhanger.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 30, 2013, 10:36:38 PM
i recently dug up my old vhs copies of these that I never returned to the video store back in like 1990.. and it has the still shot of jeff and Sandra on the back which I never knew was  deleted at the time.. obviously lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 30, 2013, 11:08:30 PM
i recently dug up my old vhs copies of these that I never returned to the video store back in like 1990.. and it has the still shot of jeff and Sandra on the back which I never knew was  deleted at the time.. obviously lol

Nice! I remember renting the movies so much I think they needed a new copy of each one lol! Is that video store still around or did they close?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: DUKE1 on May 01, 2013, 12:01:37 AM
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Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MarkRooster on May 01, 2013, 03:19:05 PM
I used to love looking at the boxes of these movies in the video store as a kid.  Definitely never parting with my VHS F13s.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on May 01, 2013, 11:28:39 PM
I remember the boxes of some of those ones scared the bejeebers outta me. Now I love them and kinda hope WB will carry them over to the blu rays they're gonna do.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MarkRooster on May 02, 2013, 11:35:16 AM
I hope so too.  I never liked the newer covers that Paramount did; or the new font they used for the titles.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on May 03, 2013, 01:54:43 PM
I had that VHS back in the day. I got rid or gave away my VHS copies a long time ago when the DVDs came out. Now I wish I hadn't. I hope the Blu-rays give us classic artwork.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Pablo on May 05, 2013, 04:46:17 PM
Yea i was defiantly born 20 years late! I really would like to have the original boxes.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Pablo on May 06, 2013, 04:56:01 PM
I just watched part two and was looking at the EMS at the end after the dream sequence and was thinking that one of the guys in the ambulance looks like axle from part 4


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on May 07, 2013, 09:49:46 PM
I met a guy the other day named Axle. I asked if he watched Pt 4 and he said yeah so I quoted the Superbowl of self abuse line. He and his wife laughed and said they thought I was cool. :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on May 09, 2013, 01:23:22 PM
Of course that part was not a dream. Paul was killed and Ginny was carried off.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on May 10, 2013, 08:59:15 AM
I just watched part two and was looking at the EMS at the end after the dream sequence and was thinking that one of the guys in the ambulance looks like axle from part 4
That would make really good sense. I think Axel is a pretty experienced EMT. Not much really seems to phase the guy. Definitely has been in his profession for several years, as he was very cavalier while they were bringing in all the corpses in part 4. Just seemed like a busy night to the guy. At least he took time to have a sandwich. Hard to work on an empty stomach.

I'll have to pay closer attention to the ambulance guys next time I watch 2.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on May 13, 2013, 11:19:56 PM
Didn't even think about that either. Good call!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on June 09, 2013, 03:58:07 PM
I feel the same way .
So does Jason.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: JasonV on July 01, 2013, 03:04:03 PM
I thought Ted was wicked funny. I also think its cool that he's also in the movie Once Bitten.

The major thing that bothers me about this film is that a lot of people stayed at the bar so they weren't killed off. It might have been nice to know what happened to them after that. Maybe when they were carting off Ginny they could have been in the background with shocked faces.

I mean, how did the cops and everyone find Ginny? One would assume that if they had a phone, they would have used it earlier in the night lol. So I think its safe to say that the rest of the kids arrived and found Ginny.

I still believe Ted believed there was more to the legend than he may have acted in front of Paul and Ginny. I think he may have drank more and called the police, believing there was gonna be a massacre at the camp, it would also explain why he never went back (apart from sleeping with the bar tender :p)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Pablo on July 05, 2013, 10:41:22 AM
So when Steve was in the car with the cop and he gets the call about a crash was that Ted that wrecked?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on July 06, 2013, 11:12:04 AM
So when Steve was in the car with the cop and he gets the call about a crash was that Ted that wrecked?
Wasn't that from pt 1 ?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Pablo on July 10, 2013, 08:25:15 PM
Wasn't that from pt 1 ?

just a thought i had when i was reading the previous post when they commented on calling the police


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Bobbygoreful on July 15, 2013, 10:14:28 PM
I rewatched this last night. For a while it was out of my top 4. I was starting to think it was overrated, but it's back in my top 4, and sits at 3 now. I thought I was officially burnt out from it the last time I watched it, but nope! Love it tons again.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: JasonV on July 18, 2013, 08:48:22 AM
This movie along with the first gave me sleepless nights and scary thoughts in my head when I was much younger. I still love them for that  :)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on July 18, 2013, 07:05:01 PM
This movie along with the first gave me sleepless nights and scary thoughts in my head when I was much younger. I still love them for that  :)
Me too !
Those first couple of movies are hard to top .


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 18, 2013, 07:10:20 PM
This movie along with the first gave me sleepless nights and scary thoughts in my head when I was much younger. I still love them for that  :)
I love them no matter what.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 31, 2013, 10:57:16 PM
I rewatched this last night. For a while it was out of my top 4. I was starting to think it was overrated, but it's back in my top 4, and sits at 3 now. I thought I was officially burnt out from it the last time I watched it, but nope! Love it tons again.


i too at times question the order in which i rank the series... 2 has always been in my top 3.. bumping around in position... it will always be a solid film with one of my fav female leads..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 01, 2013, 01:24:05 PM
I think this is my favorite, followed closely by 6. I like 4, but mainly because of the gruesome kills and gore. Something about part 2 makes me wanna travel back in time and be in that movie, the atmosphere, the ladies, the weed and partying....


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on August 01, 2013, 01:40:29 PM
Part 2 was so damn creepy at times. The music and camera angles were awesome! Also, living in Hawaii, there are a lot of wooded areas all over the place, naturally. Every time I walk along the outskirts or through woods, I always tend to look for the shack! It has a way of imprinting itself on the average (or highly above average) fan's psyche.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 01, 2013, 03:42:54 PM
I think this is my favorite, followed closely by 6. I like 4, but mainly because of the gruesome kills and gore. Something about part 2 makes me wanna travel back in time and be in that movie, the atmosphere, the ladies, the weed and partying....


same here bro!... somethin about this flick just draws me to it..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: wheres paul on August 04, 2013, 08:47:35 PM
I can say that about the first 4 installments equally. I willingly ignore EVERYTHING after TFC.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 04, 2013, 10:16:17 PM
yeah the first 4 watched back to back... to back... to back... almost feel like one big film..they all have that certain vibe to them...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: wheres paul on August 08, 2013, 09:47:28 PM
yeah the first 4 watched back to back... to back... to back... almost feel like one big film..they all have that certain vibe to them...

Well, the 1st stands on it's own. But yeah, 2-4 all within the same week feels like one big movie. Would've loved to know more about the 5 year interval other than Jason attacking Chris Higgins.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 08, 2013, 11:45:42 PM
Well, the 1st stands on it's own. But yeah, 2-4 all within the same week feels like one big movie. Would've loved to know more about the 5 year interval other than Jason attacking Chris Higgins.

yeah it is but i love how 2 recaps then takes off from thee... and ties into pt2..


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: wheres paul on August 09, 2013, 04:56:50 PM
You're right. The 1st 15 minutes of part 2 is from "five years earlier".

Part 1 June 79
Alice's murder Aug 79
part 2,3,4 July 84


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on August 30, 2013, 11:42:39 AM
I see the first two as linked together as one story. They are two halves of one whole. Then Parts 3 and 4 are another one whole story, but closely linked to the first two.

The best thing about the first two is that they really are A STORY. They are a plot that truly comes together well, with three reoccurring characters (two who die and one who is a hallucination), and they share the same setting, which is VERY important to me.

I like how Part 2 is shot on the East Coast, making it look like it is the same town as the original. None of the films that came after actually LOOK like they are in the same setting. To be even more lazy, none of them even happen at a summer camp (except Part 6). I was never crazy over the idea of the sequels happening at personal residences and other areas. Friday the 13th is a SUMMER CAMP story line, and it just does not feel the same when the plot takes place in other settings.

My all time favorite scene in the entire franchise must be when Jason leads the cop into the woods and to the shack. To me, that scene was the most exciting and suspenseful scene in the entire franchise. The music is at it's height and when the cop finally gets to the shelter, it is pretty frightening.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Sir Snooty Tooty on September 02, 2013, 02:29:00 AM
I see the first two as linked together as one story. They are two halves of one whole. Then Parts 3 and 4 are another one whole story, but closely linked to the first two.

The best thing about the first two is that they really are A STORY. They are a plot that truly comes together well, with three reoccurring characters (two who die and one who is a hallucination), and they share the same setting, which is VERY important to me.

I like how Part 2 is shot on the East Coast, making it look like it is the same town as the original. None of the films that came after actually LOOK like they are in the same setting. To be even more lazy, none of them even happen at a summer camp (except Part 6). I was never crazy over the idea of the sequels happening at personal residences and other areas. Friday the 13th is a SUMMER CAMP story line, and it just does not feel the same when the plot takes place in other settings.

My all time favorite scene in the entire franchise must be when Jason leads the cop into the woods and to the shack. To me, that scene was the most exciting and suspenseful scene in the entire franchise. The music is at it's height and when the cop finally gets to the shelter, it is pretty frightening.

I agree with everything Rich said here. Contrary to popular belief I didn't see the first two films in the theater when they came out. The first one I saw on RCA Selectavision Video Disc in late 1981 thanks to my Grandparents. Part 2 I first saw on a double-bill on ONTV with Part 1 on Aug. 13th 1982- the date Part III was released. And it really was a benefit to see them for the first time back to back and then see Part III in the theater the next day. Part II I know they started shooting before the first one box office was even cold. So they were able to keep going with a lion share of the same crew. So they both feel very much like 'siblings'. My only problem was Jason's design in Part 2. It's not that I'm not a fan of sack-head Jason. I just don't think I would have used that look the same year as The Elephant Man came out, (Also a Paramount Picture, by the by.).

I understand your chagrin though, Rich, about the loss of the camp setting after Part 2. But really, how many more camps could possibly have been at Crystal Lake? I always thought they could have gone the Piranha route in Part III and had there been like some kind of RV/ Waterpark  that could have been opened around the same time as the counselor training center. Had Jason go after that. But they made Part III what it is and with it's rolling foothills, sand and a roadside market that could pass as a saloon in an episode of the original Kung-Fu you can tell we are no where near the East Coast. (As a near lifelong CA resident the landmarks are easy to point out.) And all the New Jersey State Lottery signs in the world can't change that.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 31, 2014, 09:51:33 PM
IFC is gonna air Parts 2 & 3 next Friday, Feb 7th! Cannot wait and I hope they do two a month from now on. Part 2 is always one I love to watch and I absolutely look forward to watching it.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: mnknut22 on May 12, 2014, 12:41:50 AM
I see the first two as linked together as one story. They are two halves of one whole. Then Parts 3 and 4 are another one whole story, but closely linked to the first two.

The best thing about the first two is that they really are A STORY. They are a plot that truly comes together well, with three reoccurring characters (two who die and one who is a hallucination), and they share the same setting, which is VERY important to me.

I like how Part 2 is shot on the East Coast, making it look like it is the same town as the original. None of the films that came after actually LOOK like they are in the same setting. To be even more lazy, none of them even happen at a summer camp (except Part 6). I was never crazy over the idea of the sequels happening at personal residences and other areas. Friday the 13th is a SUMMER CAMP story line, and it just does not feel the same when the plot takes place in other settings.



My all time favorite scene in the entire franchise must be when Jason leads the cop into the woods and to the shack. To me, that scene was the most exciting and suspenseful scene in the entire franchise. The music is at it's height and when the cop finally gets to the shelter, it is pretty frightening.

I agree with all of this!!! F13th series was ment to be a summer camp movie for me..and they only really established it with part 1,2,6. I liked that element to the story.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 19, 2014, 11:41:35 AM
I see the first two as linked together as one story. They are two halves of one whole. Then Parts 3 and 4 are another one whole story, but closely linked to the first two.

The best thing about the first two is that they really are A STORY. They are a plot that truly comes together well, with three reoccurring characters (two who die and one who is a hallucination), and they share the same setting, which is VERY important to me.

I like how Part 2 is shot on the East Coast, making it look like it is the same town as the original. None of the films that came after actually LOOK like they are in the same setting. To be even more lazy, none of them even happen at a summer camp (except Part 6). I was never crazy over the idea of the sequels happening at personal residences and other areas. Friday the 13th is a SUMMER CAMP story line, and it just does not feel the same when the plot takes place in other settings.

My all time favorite scene in the entire franchise must be when Jason leads the cop into the woods and to the shack. To me, that scene was the most exciting and suspenseful scene in the entire franchise. The music is at it's height and when the cop finally gets to the shelter, it is pretty frightening.
Nice props and kudos given to pt 2 !!!
I agree with a lot of what you said . F13th movies should be placed at a summer camp or in the woods . Interesting that you comment on the 'other locations not having the same feel' ... I've said that from day one  ;D


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Ishy on July 01, 2014, 07:12:29 PM
Just rewatched it again and although I had a better impression of it before, it's still a great movie. The chase, killing the cop, machete to the face and Ginny tackling Jason's mind were all memorable and watchworthy. Also I have a soft spot for the puppy eyed Jason in the sack haha.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 24, 2014, 07:53:23 PM
Noticed something i was watching Part 2 earlier this summer on the local CW station here and at the part where Ginny gets to the camp and is talking to Paul in the cabin. She kisses him and says "Im sorry Paul". However if u watch the dvd of the movie she actually says "Bulls*** Paul". I thought maybe it was just the CW network doing it but then i watched the movie twice on Syfy last wk and the same thing happened.

Why did they do such a weird edit? When I've watched the movie before i could swear they just censored the bs word. Is this new or has it been happening for yrs and i just didnt notice? I could swear every other time they shortened the word to just Bull.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MarkRooster on September 25, 2014, 11:37:16 AM
The networks probably don't use the same TV edit version as back in the day, and when they did the new edit, they decided to change the words instead of blank out the profanities.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on September 25, 2014, 01:00:56 PM
They also edited out the word retard when Ginny was talking about Jason


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 25, 2014, 10:10:15 PM
They also edited out the word retard when Ginny was talking about Jason

That one im kinda glad they took out because i always had a problem with that word. I got called it in elementary school and high school.

The networks probably don't use the same TV edit version as back in the day, and when they did the new edit, they decided to change the words instead of blank out the profanities.

I get what u r saying but it just seems so awkward to me. U can see her mouth say the full word so why not just use the old edit? Just seems weird u know? I would've just done the same edit as before. Wouldnt it be cheaper to just keep using whats been used instead of going in and redoing it?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: mnknut22 on September 25, 2014, 11:44:42 PM
I'd rather have them bleep the swear word out, half the time i know which one they are using anyways.  Instead of using a voiceover, and changing it into a different word. Some movies have been ruined for me, because of them doing that on TV.  Watch casino on TV. IT IS SO BAD!!!! Pesci in the movie "Motherfuck you, Go fuck yourself"   TV edit " Mother punk you, Go Friend yourself"


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 20, 2014, 04:33:54 PM
They also edited out the word retard when Ginny was talking about Jason

It got through today on AMC channel during the marathon. Weird theyre usually pretty strict.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MotaroRIP on October 23, 2014, 05:09:45 AM
It got through today on AMC channel during the marathon. Weird theyre usually pretty strict.

I noticed this as well. I was quite surprised.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 23, 2014, 08:37:21 PM
yeah i was too..but i liked that it was left in... is that bad? lol


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: MotaroRIP on October 23, 2014, 08:41:48 PM
yeah i was too..but i liked that it was left in... is that bad? lol

Nah, it was the times, and it adds a bit more character to the movie. The un-PCness is a bit refreshing.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: WYL2K on November 02, 2014, 11:07:01 AM
Just watched 1-6 last night and at the end of 2 when ginny is being put in the ambulance is one of the emt's axel from part 4? looks like the dude that played him.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Ramse on November 02, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
Just watched 1-6 last night and at the end of 2 when ginny is being put in the ambulance is one of the emt's axel from part 4? looks like the dude that played him.




Ahh, i'll have to see those movies again!

Had no idea about that!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jessica on January 30, 2015, 02:38:38 AM
I don't think it's the same actor. But I suppose you can pretend it's the same character.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: JDL2112 on February 22, 2015, 09:02:49 PM
I just got done watching Part II for the 500th time or so and I still get a laugh out of one part:  Ginny is under the bed in a cabin and has just been chased around the camp by Jason...I would find this relatively frightening personally...but of course, as she's under the bed and Jason is strolling around in the room there, she sees a rat and loses control of her bladder.  Ya, I'd have done that long before some house rat was next to me.  I mean who'd want to be chased around by Jason???   :P  I just joined this board and I'm looking forward to reading!!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jessica on February 23, 2015, 01:07:49 AM
I guess it was the "piling on" effect. Jason is in the room. She's trying not to make any noise. And now there's a rat right by her face. You might say he was the straw and her bladder was the camel's back.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Rich on May 25, 2015, 03:19:35 AM
I agree with the piling on effect. A person can only take so much. I wonder if she had offered Jason the rat as a temporary peace offering, if he would have stopped chasing her to eat the rat or something.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Blane on August 16, 2015, 08:11:57 PM
yeah i was too..but i liked that it was left in... is that bad? lol

I use the word "retarded" all the time. Usually to describe things, not people. Like, "This new phone is retarded!"



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on August 28, 2015, 01:17:06 AM
The thing with her hiding under the bed. If I remember correctly the actress Amy Steel doesn't buy that she is the one who peed. She was like "a rat makes her pee? I'm not buying it" or something like that. I gotta agree. I still think the rat peed.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Blane on August 29, 2015, 06:36:26 PM
I still think the rat peed.

Well if we go by evidence (the lack of wet spot on her pants) we'd have to assume the original intention was that the rat peed. But the way they show her face scrunch up before showing the pee, I think in post production, they decided to make it look as if SHE peed. See what I mean? Original intentions are sometimes changes in post, right? I bet that happened here.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Body Boy on August 30, 2015, 12:49:18 PM
The rat peeing makes no sense.

Ginny pissed her pants. End of story, lol.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 02, 2015, 02:46:54 AM
If she did pee I wouldn't blame her at all to be honest.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Blane on September 03, 2015, 01:43:18 AM
The rat peeing makes no sense.

Ginny pissed her pants. End of story, lol.

That's what I always assumed. Then somebody pointed out she has no wet spot on her pants which makes about as much sense as the rat peeing. So I can see why the debate continues.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 04, 2015, 01:24:11 AM
I like that Amy Steel has a good sense of humor about the whole thing.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Stebob1984 on September 04, 2015, 05:07:22 PM
That's what I always assumed. Then somebody pointed out she has no wet spot on her pants which makes about as much sense as the rat peeing. So I can see why the debate continues.

Very good point didn't think of that


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on September 04, 2015, 08:18:49 PM
I like that Amy Steel has a good sense of humor about the whole thing.
She really does! Amy's been a good sport since the get go...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 08, 2015, 09:28:17 PM
She always jokes around about it and says how breakfast for them was like bacon, sausage, eggs, Jack Daniels and other stuff.

Yeah the peeing thing. I always just thought it was the rat. I was like that rat was more scared of her than she was of it.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: mhtdtr on October 09, 2015, 01:15:44 PM
I like very much this film. I think it is the perfect sequel for a horror movie along with Halloween II. Complete the circle open with the first movie by killing at the beginning the final girl of the first film (something uncommon in slasher franchises) and presenting Jason as the avenger of his mother.

I like Jason as a human being, a primitive human being grow up by himself in the woods, waiting to kill anyone who trespass his territory. I like the sack bag as a primitive form of a mask, it is simple as the Michael Myers mask, something that reflects nothing, cover his ugly face from everybody else.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 14, 2015, 01:21:47 AM
The bag was a pretty cool way to cover his face in the movie. The first time I saw the movie I didn't know if I liked him with the bag. However, as I watched it more, I really came to think the bag was awesome and scary.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on October 14, 2015, 09:59:41 AM
Jason is very human(like) in this film. Whether he's really human or not is up for debate. But in this movie he's a straight up serial killer and creepy. On the other hand people could look at it as he's not as scary because he comes across clumsy from time to time in his actions.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 16, 2015, 05:49:25 PM
Jason is very human(like) in this film. Whether he's really human or not is up for debate. But in this movie he's a straight up serial killer and creepy. On the other hand people could look at it as he's not as scary because he comes across clumsy from time to time in his actions.

To me him being clumsy makes him a bit more human in this movie than in the other ones. He scared the crap out of me in this movie a lot. The bag was creepy and I remember them saying in the documentary on the Jason X DVD that it reminded them of the Elephant Man look and The Town That Dreaded Sundown as well I think. I totally agree with those people.

I think one thing the 2009 remake could've dwelled a bit more on would've been the bag because I know a lot of fans who love that look and felt it should've been used more than it was. I'm in that camp too no pun intended. Such an underrated and scary look.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 17, 2015, 11:39:27 AM
To me him being clumsy makes him a bit more human in this movie than in the other ones. He scared the crap out of me in this movie a lot. The bag was creepy and I remember them saying in the documentary on the Jason X DVD that it reminded them of the Elephant Man look and The Town That Dreaded Sundown as well I think. I totally agree with those people.

I think one thing the 2009 remake could've dwelled a bit more on would've been the bag because I know a lot of fans who love that look and felt it should've been used more than it was. I'm in that camp too no pun intended. Such an underrated and scary look.
Totally agree with you!
For me, the bag look was & still is, scarier than the hockey mask! And I'll always be a fan of the way Jason was portrayed in pt 2, as well as the 2009 movie. The more human aspect is what made me a life long fan of the character and the series.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 18, 2015, 05:08:18 PM
I love we got the hockey mask because it's so simple, scary and iconic. That being said, the bag was so scary and just looked creepy.

If I remember the reason they didn't do his bag look in Part 3 was because it was a hassle to Steve Dash and hampered his movements. They had to tape it down and when he pulled the tape off it left burns on his face. Had that not been the case, maybe the hockey mask would've taken longer to come about for all I know.that being said, I am glad how the bag and mask were part of the franchise.

Plus I do kind of get the feeling that maybe Steve Miner felt the bag really WAS a one time deal and maybe didn't think about including it in 3 anyway. I'd love to see what he thought and if he ever thought about using the look in 3.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on October 18, 2015, 05:43:30 PM
I love we got the hockey mask because it's so simple, scary and iconic. That being said, the bag was so scary and just looked creepy.

If I remember the reason they didn't do his bag look in Part 3 was because it was a hassle to Steve Dash and hampered his movements. They had to tape it down and when he pulled the tape off it left burns on his face. Had that not been the case, maybe the hockey mask would've taken longer to come about for all I know.that being said, I am glad how the bag and mask were part of the franchise.

Plus I do kind of get the feeling that maybe Steve Miner felt the bag really WAS a one time deal and maybe didn't think about including it in 3 anyway. I'd love to see what he thought and if he ever thought about using the look in 3.

So if the bag was a one off, and the hockey mask wasn't there, how do you reveal Jason's face.  I also thought Steve Dash was in pafrt 2, and Richard Brooker was in part 3.....


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 19, 2015, 12:58:24 AM
You're right that's what I meant sorry it may have gotten jumbled up. I meant the tape left burns on Steve's face in 2 and in the same movie he tried to run with it on his head or with the eye closed off and I think he hit a tree one or a few times.

I said this about Mrs. Voorhees in another thread and it kinda is true for the bag. I'd like to see the bag being included more in the reboot coming up. Where he got it and maybe it has some significance and meaning to Jason. Like maybe it's the sack Pamela put his stuff in for summer camp or something. Nothing overly huge but just something explaining why he picked it.

I can't believe it's just oh this fits over my head. I mean it could be that but in these movies is anything really that simple when it comes down to it? There's always double meanings and I've heard quite a bit of fan fiction as to the hockey mask and some of the fans are very creative as to exactly WHY he chose that. Even when TNT did their marathons back in the day they even had the announcer saying he was a big hockey fan or something like that. Even if it was a joke u know the fan base has always had their own ideas as to if it meant something more u know?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: emmanu on December 29, 2015, 11:37:09 PM
In the begining of part 3 they said 8 bodies were found and Ginny was stabbed multiple times, so I was thinking when she was stabbed, I don't believe the window scene was real because in the beginning of part 3 they show Jason removing the machete from his shoulder, they changed his appearence (indicating hairy Jason was only Ginny idea about him, being a a guy in the woods and she only saw part of his face), and Muffin was 200% dead. So if that was indeed a dream, when was she stabbed? I think that after they left the house two things could have happened with a Jason still recovering from a machete throught his shoulder. 1-Paul was shocked so he left Ginny to walk around and Jason stabbed her and she was luck to pass out, after that he went to Harold. 2-He killed Paul and Ginny passed out after being stabbed. I am almost sure that Ted stayed in the bar so I will rule him out of the body-count. With Paul dead we have 11 "bodies" (counting Alice's bones and Ms. Voorhees' head), and discounting Alice and Ms. Voorhees (who I think the police would have hidden the information in a first moment because they didn't want to mix up information about old corpses with new ones) we have 9, for the "8 bodies" information to be accurate one has to be missing, it could be Crazy Ralph who was murdered the night before (Jason could have hidden body in another place) or maybe Terri was alive and walked off (lol) from the shack. With Paul alive we have the "8 bodies". I think the police did find the shack because without the shack we have 6 bodies without Paul and 7 with him, I don't believe this is the case because they would show if someone was killed without audience knowledge and Ted was well alive and drunk in the bar (plus I read somewhere his status is: alive).   I like to think about the idea that Paul is alive both because I liked his character, he was brave and the opposite of Dr. Crews from pt.7 and because sometimes I imagine a funny dream scene with Paul in the lake just like Alice in part 1, the same music and then suddenly Alice jumps on him lol, we should get John Furey and Adrianne King to do that.  What do you guys think about the "8 bodies" and Ginny being stabbed?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 30, 2015, 09:50:47 AM
We have 10 people being killed in this movie.

http://www.campblood.net/BodyCount/bodycount2.html (http://www.campblood.net/BodyCount/bodycount2.html)

We know a few of the bodies that were in Jason's shack as they are visible here:

(http://www.campblood.net/gallery/albums/uploads/DVD_Stills/Pt2/cap143.jpg)

Mrs. V, Alice, Terry, the cop

There's 8 bodies total if they didn't count Paul or Alice or Mrs. V.  If they didn't find the shack the count couldn't be 8, it would be 6-7. So they had to have found the shack.

Honestly, I just believe this was a blooper. There was a mistake like this for the trailer of part 2 referencing what happened in part 1:

The trailer voice over claims "12 of her friends were murdered". First of all, 12 people weren't at the camp, and 12 people weren't killed at all in the film, a total of 10 were. 6 counselors - Annie, Ned, Brenda, Marcie, Jack, and Bill. And 7 if you include Steve Christy. Alice never met Annie, and didn't know she was dead. So she wasn't a friend.

Here's the trailer: http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3427 (http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3427)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 30, 2015, 02:17:47 PM
Also, "Ginny being stabbed" was probably a misworded reference for the pitchfork to her calf injury that Jason inflicted on her...


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Blane on January 01, 2016, 02:01:13 AM
How does Jason keep those tiny candles (around his mom's head) lit for so long? Does he keep replacing them? We know he's "stealing what he needs." It's funny to think of him stealing candles for his alter. Not as funny as the thought of him stealing that toilet, I guess... But still. Candles are just such a dainty item for him to be running around with.



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 02, 2016, 12:32:46 AM
Maybe he makes candles? I was watching Mythbusters and from what I've seen on there, it doesn't look that hard. Plus, he's pretty good at coming up with weapons and finding stuff so I could see him making candles.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on January 03, 2016, 06:54:52 PM
Maybe he makes candles? I was watching Mythbusters and from what I've seen on there, it doesn't look that hard. Plus, he's pretty good at coming up with weapons and finding stuff so I could see him making candles.

Matches are also pretty easy to come by.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 03, 2016, 11:53:21 PM
Matches are also pretty easy to come by.

Yeah definitely. Plus even if he ran out of matches, he probably had a few different ways to start fires. Jason is very good at living off the land.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on January 05, 2016, 06:51:08 PM
Yeah definitely. Plus even if he ran out of matches, he probably had a few different ways to start fires. Jason is very good at living off the land.

Or, in later times, he could steal matches from Tommy.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 05, 2016, 07:49:52 PM
Or, in later times, he could steal matches from Tommy.

I was just thinking that too!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: musicman17 on January 07, 2016, 11:37:22 AM
What I don't understand about the whole pee under the bed thing is I've seen somewhere that the reason they added the pee bit is to provide a reason as to how Jason knew Ginny was under the bed. Ok reasonable but why was a rat and urine the first thing they thought of? They could done countless things. Ginny could have sneezed, bumped something, made a noise, the rat could even still make an appearance. They could have Ginny try to shoo the rat away and have the rat squeak or something. I will never understand why Ginny pisses herself or the rat pisses was the first thing they thought of. Who on set raised their hand and was like "I know. Someone pisses their pants" they could have done it so many different ways . Still a great movie tho


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jessica on February 23, 2016, 11:58:29 PM
The pee under the bed has generated a LOT of discussion on the internet. lol. It's amazing how much talk can come out of a puddle of pee.

It's like "Han shot first." Only the debate is often, "Who peed? She or the rat?"


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: april flower on April 14, 2016, 08:53:06 AM

Here's some questions I have heard, and theories to think about.

1. How did Jason not only carry a head to Alice's and back, but carry Alice's body (icepick ilodged) all the way from the suburb area casually back to the camp? Pamela's abandoned jeep? Hey, if Myers can drive without experience, Jason can also.  I just can't buy him walking out of town into the campsite with a body bag and head. His mom's jeep?

2. Ralph is in the pantry dead. Surely SOMEONE would have noticed earlier. Not only are they cooking at lunchtime,  and also for the dinner where they decided to go out, but no one notices Ralph propped up ready to fall? Even the smell would surely be a bit off. And if Ralph's body wasn't in there earlier, where was it?

3.  While Jeff and Sandra were in bed, Jason casually walks in to the lodge direct from a kill, grabs the conveniently left spear, and moves in to the room prepared in such a way to strike as if he KNEW they were there having sex. Not too bad for a supposedly cognitively challenged hillbilly.. How did he know, instantly when entering the lodge, to go STRAIGHT there, positioning himself as he did? .

4. The RARE uncut version, which I happened to get from an Australian dvd rental, I remember seeing Paul exploring Jason's shack (alone) and it was nighttime..is this an explanation of what happened with Ginny waking up with Paul absent? Part 3's (stupid) footage of Jason removing his machete was obviously before the cops turned up (terri and winslow are still there). Jason wasn't found, so possibly why Paul wasn't either. Who knows, maybe Jason chased Paul, disposed him and carried on to Harold's.

Random...when Abel had the eyeball and was talking about "other parts of the body"...perhaps he stumbled across Paul's?



Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 14, 2016, 11:59:38 AM
First I've heard of that scene w/Paul exploring Jason's shack...
Interesting.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: april flower on April 14, 2016, 07:13:54 PM

Yep, a few people have reported seeing it. Was also brought up on another Fri 13th forum. I will have to find that and post here.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: april flower on April 15, 2016, 10:43:15 AM
Random, just watched part 2 and..

There are obviously a good few hours between Jason's "death" in the shack, and the cops beginning their search "just before dawn".  (and at least another 8 before Jason is seen at Harold's).

What may have transpired over those many hours? Obviously Jason got himself together and left the shack (certainly before the search team began their "just before dawn search", otherwise they would have come across Jason). Next thing we see is Ginny in daylight being taken away (with multiple stab wounds as 3's reporter states), Paul not on the scene, and neither is Jason, who wasn't even to know authorities were on their way. Point being Jason hadn't left for Harold's immediately.

Both Jason and Paul had suffice time to do many other things. Paul could have gone back to the shack, Jason could have returned to the cabins. Another Winslow like chase could have happened, Jason could have caught up with Paul and given him a serve, for Abel to later find "parts of the body".  Obviously Abel came across a body before the cops did.

Also in the slow mo of Ginny slicing Jason, Jason also connects a blow with something to Paul at exactly the same time.

---As for the rare relese, I intend to check my local rental library. Others have reported it being in some of theirs/


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on April 15, 2016, 05:31:57 PM
I've heard of additional footage for this film but it seems that nobody can find it.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Gash on May 02, 2016, 03:02:40 AM
I've heard of additional footage for this film but it seems that nobody can find it.

Have any idea what they are?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 02, 2016, 11:55:26 AM
Any more word on that rare footage version of part 2?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: april flower on May 05, 2016, 06:55:51 AM
I am going to go old school tomorrow and check my DVD rental shop (yes they still exist) tomorrow. I have heard of another report from someone in my country that they themselves got it from a rental store.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Killer-C on May 07, 2016, 06:17:58 PM
Have any idea what they are?


From what I've read there's more to the ending. Some additional\Extended scenes with Paul in them.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: april flower on May 07, 2016, 06:47:05 PM

I also read not too long ago (on another Fri 13th forum, the Franchise one that has come to an end) that one of the people reporting seeing this rare DVD was at a local dvd rental store here in Australia.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Blane on May 12, 2016, 04:06:05 AM
Stories about extended or uncut versions of movies always circulate on the web. They're like urban legends. They're like Jason! Stories told around a campfire but nobody can ever seem to actually FIND one of these movies. Don't you think an uncut Part 2 would have popped up as a bootleg by this time if it were real?


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: april flower on May 12, 2016, 05:16:01 AM

Never mind. Forget I even mentioned it.  ::)




Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 13, 2016, 12:45:42 PM
Never mind. Forget I even mentioned it.  ::)  

Not at all, man! There are others who've mentioned it too. Some that are pretty respected on these boards...

I appreciate you trying to look into it for us - hope you solve the mystery, so to speak!
Many people haven't seen the "alternate footage/tv edits" for JGTh, for example. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there were different versions/takes/scenes for other movies, by an overseas company.

Like the decapitation scene at the end of pt3 that wasn't used. Just because the footage is "believed to be lost", doesn't mean that there isn't a copy gathering dust on a warehouse shelf somewhere... Keep searching for us!

We, the fans, are rabid for this kind of thing!





Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on May 13, 2016, 09:44:01 PM
I do hope that someday the extra footage is found. The movie is fantastic to me and if they released Part 2 uncut on blu ray, i think the fans would jump at the chance to get it!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Blane on May 14, 2016, 12:31:47 AM
Sure the FOOTAGE is definitely out there somewhere but I doubt a complete uncut version of the film is out there for sale. I just think it would have surfaced by this time.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 14, 2016, 05:45:50 AM
I do hope that someday the extra footage is found. The movie is fantastic to me and if they released Part 2 uncut on blu ray, i think the fans would jump at the chance to get it!
I totally agree!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: april flower on May 15, 2016, 07:36:30 AM
When I watch F13 II, I watch it as if he didn't have the pillowcase om his head and is walking around doing his thing with his face exposed (as is as he "comes" through the window).

He looks "scarier" in 2 than 3 imo.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jasonlives52 on November 07, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
Of all the Friday the 13th films, I think this one has the most likable characters for me. I remember them coming across as believable characters and not just mindless airheads you only see in horror films. They felt more like real people i would know back then so this film resonated more with me. Of course Jason hadn't reached his iconic form yet, but I definitely found him to be creepy as he was presented. That was a great time in the series when everything was still evolving and you really didn't know what was next. It felt a little more open ended since the first one had been about his mom and now it covered him.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: mnknut22 on November 09, 2016, 12:59:52 AM
Of all the Friday the 13th films, I think this one has the most likable characters for me. I remember them coming across as believable characters and not just mindless airheads you only see in horror films. They felt more like real people i would know back then so this film resonated more with me. Of course Jason hadn't reached his iconic form yet, but I definitely found him to be creepy as he was presented. That was a great time in the series when everything was still evolving and you really didn't know what was next. It felt a little more open ended since the first one had been about his mom and now it covered him.


One of my favorites in the series by far.. and i agree with the likeable characters. Jason was truly his scariest in this one. IMO.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: hesvor on November 19, 2016, 11:33:54 PM


One of my favorites in the series by far.. and i agree with the likeable characters. Jason was truly his scariest in this one. IMO.
Agreed on all counts, my friend!
Part 2 is still my favorite in the series. Jason, being truly terrifying, is a major reason why.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Jessica on November 19, 2016, 11:44:57 PM
My favorite, for the record. Now you know. :) I liked his look in this one the best too. Love the elephant man look on half his face and the long hair.


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: Tiny Sparrow on January 17, 2017, 06:36:37 PM

Ownage:

(http://www.iconsoffright.com/Jason2/2056.jpg)


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: SilverFox on May 27, 2017, 08:26:20 PM
I can't believe we didn't have one already but here it is


You know the drill


Hi, does anyone have the rare script for F13th P2 1981 that Warrington Gillette aka unmasked Jason in Part 2 use to sell for $50 bucks at conventions and the now defunct www.jason2kills.com (http://www.jason2kills.com) website?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Friday The 13th Part 2 Discussion
Post by: fabien on June 06, 2017, 05:32:33 PM
Hello i m apelle fabien i am from france i am fan of friday 13 j tchatcher on facebook with australian who said to have seen on Friday 13 chapter 2 uncut in dvd of hiring that its came from asia and going on ebay I found an Australian rental dvd and 1 taiwan dvd but i can not buy it because i have no blue card so i can get it here links http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Friday (http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Friday) -The-13th-Part-2-DVD-1981-Region-4- / 172697716023? Hash = item2835960537: g: Wx4AAOSw ~ FJZKWoJ for the Australian dvd rental version
The link for the Taiwan DVD http://www.ebay.com/itm/Friday-the-13th-Part-2-1981-DVD-TAIWAN-/322515184336?hash=item4b17672ad0:g:ntIAAOSw9N1VzcDs (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Friday-the-13th-Part-2-1981-DVD-TAIWAN-/322515184336?hash=item4b17672ad0:g:ntIAAOSw9N1VzcDs)