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Title: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on February 18, 2008, 10:23:29 PM
I'm sorta shocked we don't have a thread for this...but not really since a lot of people dislike the movie.

Anyhow, I was fast forwarding through it, in search of something so I could respond to another thread and noticed something funny.

At the end of Pt. 5 the cop is holding up the news articles. I ended up pausing it to see if I could read what it said. Well, its got nothing to do with Jason other then the headline, but on top of that, it says the same thing over and over again other then the first paragraph. I just thought this was funny, as I've never noticed it before.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: The_Empress on February 19, 2008, 12:54:19 AM
Lol, I'm going to have to check that out.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on February 19, 2008, 07:05:57 AM
I thought this movie was Ok.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on February 19, 2008, 11:46:59 AM
it took me a long time to like part 5. now its one of my favs


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on February 19, 2008, 02:24:36 PM
It too took me a long time to enjoy this film. I actually DON'T like the ending. Pretty much from the time Pam comes back till the very end. Most of the time when I'm watching the film I just stop it around that part..or do something else while it runs in the background. I don't know why, its just at that point I lose all interest.

I think the characters are pretty entertaining though, and I think thats what makes the movie really fun.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on February 19, 2008, 09:29:18 PM
Its hard for me to get passed the imposter jason but all in all not that bad of a movie, i guess


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Fallen on February 20, 2008, 03:17:32 AM
I love part 5. Its such a great filler and addition to the storyline. Without it, we wouldn't have part 6 which I feel is the best entry in the franchise. This movie is what gives away how much terror still haunts tommy about Jason and shows that he is still insecure after all the years. If you cut from Part 4 to Part 6, It wouldn't make as much sense.

One question I do have, what happened to trish? Has there been any explanation of this ever?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Maniac on February 20, 2008, 11:18:35 AM
I like to think of Part 5 as Halloween 3, in a sense they both took a break from the ordinary and tried something different. Obviously Friday 5 didn't venture too far away having an imposter which is why the installment is hated so much but it was enjoyable whith the exception of the lame ending.

Dark


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on February 21, 2008, 02:19:02 AM
I despise this movie with a passion.

I don't care that "Jason isn't really Jason", or that the genuine killer is a character seen for all of two minutes in the finished film and not even so much as hinted at before his reveal. I don't care that the characters are wooden, or that the effects are atrocious.

What bothers me about the film is that it is almost a scene-for-scene remake of the original.


Murderer's child killed in a horrible accident?

Check.

An attempt is made to throw suspicion on a 'local loony'?

Check.

The killer turns out to be someone whose name isn't even known until the final scenes?

Check. Mate.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Fallen on February 21, 2008, 04:56:18 AM
I despise this movie with a passion.

I don't care that "Jason isn't really Jason", or that the genuine killer is a character seen for all of two minutes in the finished film and not even so much as hinted at before his reveal. I don't care that the characters are wooden, or that the effects are atrocious.

What bothers me about the film is that it is almost a scene-for-scene remake of the original.


Murderer's child killed in a horrible accident?

Check.

An attempt is made to throw suspicion on a 'local loony'?

Check.

The killer turns out to be someone whose name isn't even known until the final scenes?

Check. Mate.

I'll say you make a good point, but it adds a lot more to the story of Tommy Jarvis therefore its not a pointless remake.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on February 21, 2008, 06:19:46 AM
I'll say you make a good point, but it adds a lot more to the story of Tommy Jarvis therefore its not a pointless remake.

Except that what it adds is almost completely ignored in the infinitely superior Jason Lives anyway, and what is added is of almost a negative net worth. I don't care to see Tommy running about in his tighty-whities and sweating like he'd just shot up a needleful of smack. About the only really good thing he does in the movie is beat the shit out of Hillbilly Tardboy, and that's over far too soon to save the movie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on February 21, 2008, 12:54:10 PM
Except that what it adds is almost completely ignored in the infinitely superior Jason Lives anyway, and what is added is of almost a negative net worth. I don't care to see Tommy running about in his tighty-whities and sweating like he'd just shot up a needleful of smack. About the only really good thing he does in the movie is beat the shit out of Hillbilly Tardboy, and that's over far too soon to save the movie.

While it does seem to ignore it somewhat, I think it can still be included by the fans. Its not a sequel you have to discount, as it makes sense with the storyline of 4 and of 6. The one major mistake that I can think of off the top of my head is the mayor saying that Jason was cremated.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on February 21, 2008, 03:16:05 PM
While it does seem to ignore it somewhat, I think it can still be included by the fans. Its not a sequel you have to discount, as it makes sense with the storyline of 4 and of 6. The one major mistake that I can think of off the top of my head is the mayor saying that Jason was cremated.

Not the storyline, but rather Tommy's characterization, is my main point of contention with this film. It's almost totally opposite from Thom Matthews' portrayal in the sixth entry.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on February 21, 2008, 03:47:52 PM
Yeah...but 5 comes before 6...so really pt. 6 doesn't match up with the rest lol

All I'm saying is that it could in fact carry on, and I buy it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Fallen on February 21, 2008, 06:45:04 PM
I'll agree on the fact the character Tommy Jarvis' personality bounces way too much between 4, 5, and 6. His personality in this is just quiet, hes really too himself. In part 6 hes way more confident and speaks whenever he needs to.

I also agree that seeing him in his tighty whities wasn't fun, and that watching junior get beaten up was cool.

And jason was cremated? I think the mayor didnt know for sure but he wanted an excuse to desuade the sheriff from thinking the killer was jason.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on February 21, 2008, 07:43:06 PM
I'll agree on the fact the character Tommy Jarvis' personality bounces way too much between 4, 5, and 6. His personality in this is just quiet, hes really too himself. In part 6 hes way more confident and speaks whenever he needs to.

True, but the way all the stories work, it sorta explains it. Like, he's normal in pt. 4...but because of what happens to his family, he snaps, as we see at the end of pt. 4...

Enter Pt. 5. He's locked up, has been for years which probably would make him very quiet. Again he's attacked, this time by Roy...he gets locked up again & meets Hawes who helps him through stuff....

I dunno, I buy it ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on February 21, 2008, 08:50:04 PM
This is still my least fave of the FRIDAYs, but I agree that Tommy WOULD act the way he does in Part V.
I dislike the dream endings in some of these. especially V and VII.  III was pretty lame, too.

Here's a good q: What happened to Tommy's fighting skills between V and VI?  :jason5:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JasonLives76 on March 04, 2008, 10:47:52 AM
I've always had a soft spot for "A new begining",i mean it says it right there in the title we couldn't have or should have expected anything different.This was the sequel to get the series jump started again in a lot of ways.I love the gore in it,i think some of the kills are the most sadistic and brutal.My main question to Kat and all the regulars is this: why is part V the most least talked about? The boxset's bonus disc was lame when it came to the fifth installment,i've always wanted to know more about the making of the film,Danny Steinman's comments,etc.I do agree with everyone else though,it's hard to watch a Jason copycat but at least you know Roy tried to get Jason's methods of killing correct.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on March 04, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
Well, its probably the 'most least talked about' because of the fact that it was an imposter Jason. Thats really the only thing I can come up with for that one ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ROBINRULES on March 24, 2008, 11:47:15 PM
in part 5 do they have a clip of junior getting his head choped off jake getting hacked in the face or robin getting stabed


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: E-Man on March 25, 2008, 01:44:51 PM
I've only ever watched this movie all the way through once. I tried watching it again not long ago, but I just couldn't bear it and switched it off. This and Part VII are definitely my least favourites. Thank God things got better in Part VI  :jason6:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on March 25, 2008, 02:03:10 PM
Its one of my least favorites in the series as well but if yoy can get passed the hole imposter thing then its not that bad of a movie


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 14, 2008, 09:32:27 PM
Well like i said before it took me along time to even like part 5 i did not start liking it till i got my DVD boxset. Now its one of my Favs. Also they had some awsome death scenes like Junior getting his head chop off and Billy getting an Ax in the back of the head. Wonderful deaths!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Count_Sarge on June 15, 2008, 01:31:40 AM
I like it! So Jason is not the killer......so what? He wasn't the killer in Part 1 either but, people don't complain about that.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on June 15, 2008, 01:50:03 AM
It was entertaining nonetheless. The kills are very creative. The body count is highest. It's only bad because of the 'twist' ending. Cut that part out and you have another good Friday the 13th film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 15, 2008, 02:32:22 PM
I don't care that "Jason isn't really Jason", or that the genuine killer is a character seen for all of two minutes in the finished film and not even so much as hinted at before his reveal. I don't care that the characters are wooden, or that the effects are atrocious.

I think it is hinted at a bit. 

I mean 'Jason' doesn't look anything like the Jason the the previous films, and his mask is totally different.

During the scene where we do see Roy right after Joey is killed they like zoom into him and show him looking angry, or rather show him snapping.

Again later when we see Roy the sheriff says something and Roy responds. I recall thinking for a nobody character I thought that was very strange.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on June 17, 2008, 01:26:51 PM
Its one of my least favorites in the series as well but if yoy can get passed the hole imposter thing then its not that bad of a movie

Minus the fact that it's a pointless remake, sure.

Again, had the film's storyline been set up differently - had Roy's son not died, had that not been the impetus for him to snap, had he been established as a character (aside from the obvious 'sideways glances' he shot throughout the movie) -- in other words, had he been a distinct character from Pamela Voorhees - it would have been mediocre, a mediocrity equivalent to some of the other films in the franchise such as Jason Takes Manhattan or Jason X. Instead, A New Beginning manages to replicate almost exactly the overall story of the original film, and in doing so earns a rank down the ladder aside the like of such tripe as Part III.

The effects are bad, such as, for example, Junior's head or the eye-gouge scene (worse in my opinion than any of the four entries before it; this had a lower budget than the fourth film, and it shows), but that's forgivable. The characters were the moral equivalent of the Cheech and Chong-lites from the third entry, especially the rednecks, but again, I don't expect King Lear from these movies. What irks me the most, and what causes me to regard it as the second-to-worst film in the franchise, is the fact that it's a remake with one recurring character in it.

Some of the other films have been accused of being rehashes. This one really is. At least Jason Goes To Hell doesn't sync up with the original like Dark Side of the Moon to The Wizard of Oz


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 17, 2008, 02:26:27 PM
i wouldnt say remake,jason goes to hell is no original story line either,its kinda similar to Wes Cravens film Shocker.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on June 17, 2008, 02:39:20 PM
i wouldnt say remake,jason goes to hell is no original story line either,its kinda similar to Wes Cravens film Shocker.

No it isn't, and I speak as a fan of Shocker. If anything it's most similar to The Hidden, but even then the similarities are minimal.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 18, 2008, 12:39:57 AM
As well as I,body jumping is what i mean as similar


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: LAZARUS on June 25, 2008, 01:51:53 AM
 I actually like this film.

As someone has pointed out it's close to a re-make of the original film.

I like Violet, she is one of my favourite characters from the series and I think she looks a lot like the way Madonna did in 1985 when the film was released.

There are also similarities to Halloween with Tommy's visions of Jason being similar to Jamie Lee Curtis' visions of Michael Myers in the original Halloween.

 Anyone catch the connection between Friday the 13th and "A Place in the Sun".?

"A Place in the Sun" is the old black and white film the kids are watching.

I thought there had to be a connection and I think it's really obvious. The scene they are watching is where Montgomery Clift is about to dump Shelly Winters over the side of the boat.

Winters drowns because like Jason she can't swim. The scene is also similar to the final scenes in Parts I and II where the heroine is dragged from a boat into the lake.

The lake in "A Place in the Sun" like the lake in Friday the 13th harbours a dark secret.

EDIT: Merged posts into one ~ Kat


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on September 20, 2008, 03:47:44 PM
Funny thing...I was watching the E! True Hollywood story today on Mariska Hargitay (NOTHING was on lol)and all of the sudden, this person comes on the preview of whats coming up, and I'm like "woah that guy, I know him from somewhere" but I wasn't fast enough to read the name...so then there is a commercial break and the show comes back on, and a few minutes later the guy comes back on and its John Shepard! Yes, the guy who played Tommy Jarvis in this film.

He looks just the same only a bit thicker and with less hair, but it was pretty cool to see him as I haven't seen him in years.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on September 22, 2008, 12:17:47 AM
I did not see that i gonna try to find it on youtube


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Fallen on September 23, 2008, 04:10:43 PM
Wow thats cool what was he a part of on there?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Bobbygoreful on September 25, 2008, 05:37:23 PM
 Loved part 5, completely underrated!!!!


 Entertaining start to finish. The kills are fun and there are tons of them. The characters are all over the top and fun to watch. I love this film.

 Also it has a great mean streak.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 05, 2008, 04:34:44 PM
i liked that it still held it campy feel.. even though it didnt take place at a camp.... and there are some that say jason just kills at random... he venging his mothers death....ect....it kinda shows he holds a grudge... first he tracks alice down... then hes after tommy in 2(3) movies... well i guess tmomy is after HIM in VI....i agree this is a fun flick... and inventive kills..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: xjediskywalkerx on July 08, 2009, 02:02:35 AM
i was skimming around looking for a thread on part 5 so i figured i would use this one. i actually re watched this tonight, first time in a long time. i like how tough tommy is and how he somehow turned into a tae kwon do expert. i think this movie actually had alot of potential. i thought it would have been great to have a therapy scene with tommy and tommy talks a bit about jason. and its just an idea but how do you all think the franchise would have changed if tommy was the killer the entire movie and instead of going back to jason in part 6, tommy was the killer in every other sequel from this point? i actually wouldnt mind it. if that happend it would feel like all the movies are actually tied together and not just random obscure sequels that had nothing to do with the previous film. such as jason takes manahatten, or jason X.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: stain on July 08, 2009, 06:20:17 PM
A ratta-tatta-tatta-tatta-tooey!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 10, 2009, 01:10:27 AM
A ratta-tatta-tatta-tatta-tooey!


hahaha.. love that line!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jameslofton on July 10, 2009, 02:40:39 AM
the genuine killer is a character seen for all of two minutes in the finished film and not even so much as hinted at before his reveal.
You're joking, right?

We are constantly reminded every five-ten minutes by camera shots of the paramedic that he is going to be the killer. They made it way too obvious as he is shown far too long, and at unnecessary times. Its actually the film's biggest flaw. The 'twist' is never allowed to properly develop because the viewer is always being hit over the head with a sledgehammer that has the paramedic's name on it.

About five-eight minutes into the film, when the camera stays on him for a few seconds too long as he gives that empty stare, you already know he's gonna be "Jason".

You can pick apart this film all day long with its flaws, but claiming there is no "reveal" until the final act is preposterous. The reveal occurs literally minutes into the film.



I actually like this entry in the franchise, flaws and all. The sad thing is so much potential was squandered. A weak script really does it no favors. It has a pretty strong cast of characters, but they are never really allowed to develop properly. I never expected a 'character study', but characters such as Violet and Tina are just tossed aside or murdered quickly when they could have done so much more with them. Tommy as a mute just makes no sense in the overall context of the film, and if this is how the writers were going to approach the character, he should have been a very minor character and maybe even one of the first victims. Every time he hits the screen, it disrupts the pacing of the film.

Not a good thing when its the main character.


Like others have mentioned, I do like how that 80s campiness is still intact with this film. The main thing I like about the film is their desire to go in a bold direction, but they didn't go far enough and it causes the film to run in place and tread the same territory as the prior films.

The writers should have sat on this script for a year, come back to it, dust it off, and take a fresh look at it and give it a proper rewrite.

There is a damn good film buried under the various flaws.






Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jarvis43 on July 10, 2009, 11:07:55 AM
a lot of people really hate this movie but I don't see why I mean its got all the ingredients to make a jason movie, sex, kills, teens going off in the woods by themselves, and did I mention sex?
see all the things that make a good jason movie... um, minus jason
haha


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 11, 2009, 04:20:46 PM
they really do shove the fact that roy is the killer throuought the  movie...  like Jameslofton said...and everytime  there was a kill.. we never actually saw jason... they tried to maybe let us think that it was tommy or hell even Vic for that matter..


although viloets character wasn't develpoed that much.... her kill scene is one of the most popular... i actually love it...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JPad on July 22, 2009, 12:07:00 PM
I watched this last night.  This is the most criminally underrated Friday film.  Never got the angst over the whole imposter thing.  They do beat you over the head with it though.  When I first saw it, I kept asking why in the heck do they keep showing closeups of this random background paramedic character?

I thought the redneck woman and her Randy Quaid from Vacation son were the worst part of the film, taking campiness to an awful level.

Loved Ms. Vorhees and her knockers.

The main counselor guy looked like Patrick Duffy from Dallas.

The kills in this one are very brutal.  Seem worse than the previous 4.

The opening scene in the graveyard in the rain looks really cool and iconic of the series.

Demon's girlfriend sings to him while he takes a dump.  Also, one of the dudes from Grease in the completely unrelated road flare scene goes to take a dump in the woods.  That cracked me up.  I know people pee in the woods, but dump?  Lolz

The most surprising thing for me in the viewing was when I watched about half with the commentary track.  My stomach hurt and I was crying laughing and had to pause it every few minutes to gather myself.  That director is an absolute nut!  It really was like MST3K F13 style.  If you are having a bad day, watch this with the commentary and listen to the director's pure comedy gold spew forth.  I can't remember when I have laughed so hard.

Underrated film, better than Part 3.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ghost on July 27, 2009, 08:37:48 PM
I watched this last night.  This is the most criminally underrated Friday film.  Never got the angst over the whole imposter thing.  They do beat you over the head with it though.  When I first saw it, I kept asking why in the heck do they keep showing closeups of this random background paramedic character?

Underrated film, better than Part 3.

nice to see another fan.

i love this movie. love the kils,the comady, and the "knockers".

what a great addition to the series.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: xjediskywalkerx on July 28, 2009, 12:13:54 AM
I watched this last night.  This is the most criminally underrated Friday film.  Never got the angst over the whole imposter thing.  They do beat you over the head with it though.  When I first saw it, I kept asking why in the heck do they keep showing closeups of this random background paramedic character?

I thought the redneck woman and her Randy Quaid from Vacation son were the worst part of the film, taking campiness to an awful level.

Loved Ms. Vorhees and her knockers.

The main counselor guy looked like Patrick Duffy from Dallas.

The kills in this one are very brutal.  Seem worse than the previous 4.

The opening scene in the graveyard in the rain looks really cool and iconic of the series.

Demon's girlfriend sings to him while he takes a dump.  Also, one of the dudes from Grease in the completely unrelated road flare scene goes to take a dump in the woods.  That cracked me up.  I know people pee in the woods, but dump?  Lolz

The most surprising thing for me in the viewing was when I watched about half with the commentary track.  My stomach hurt and I was crying laughing and had to pause it every few minutes to gather myself.  That director is an absolute nut!  It really was like MST3K F13 style.  If you are having a bad day, watch this with the commentary and listen to the director's pure comedy gold spew forth.  I can't remember when I have laughed so hard.

Underrated film, better than Part 3.
what version of the dvd u got that has commentary? i checked mine, doesnt have it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 28, 2009, 12:34:31 AM
the deluxe edition has it


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on July 30, 2009, 12:06:42 PM
Anyone else notice that most people were killed in pairs...within a matter of minutes from each other?

Neil & Les
Vinnie & Pete
Billy & Lana
Tina & Eddie (with Raymond as well)
Anita & Demon
Junior & Ethel
Jake & Robin & Violet


I watched this last night.  This is the most criminally underrated Friday film.  Never got the angst over the whole imposter thing.  They do beat you over the head with it though.  When I first saw it, I kept asking why in the heck do they keep showing closeups of this random background paramedic character?

I thought the redneck woman and her Randy Quaid from Vacation son were the worst part of the film, taking campiness to an awful level.

Loved Ms. Vorhees and her knockers.

The main counselor guy looked like Patrick Duffy from Dallas.

The kills in this one are very brutal.  Seem worse than the previous 4.

The opening scene in the graveyard in the rain looks really cool and iconic of the series.

Demon's girlfriend sings to him while he takes a dump.  Also, one of the dudes from Grease in the completely unrelated road flare scene goes to take a dump in the woods.  That cracked me up.  I know people pee in the woods, but dump?  Lolz

The most surprising thing for me in the viewing was when I watched about half with the commentary track.  My stomach hurt and I was crying laughing and had to pause it every few minutes to gather myself.  That director is an absolute nut!  It really was like MST3K F13 style.  If you are having a bad day, watch this with the commentary and listen to the director's pure comedy gold spew forth.  I can't remember when I have laughed so hard.

Underrated film, better than Part 3.

I thought Ethel was funny in the movie, but her son was kinda annoying.

Matt did resemble Patrick Duffy.

Ms. Voorhees' knockers? say what?

While there would have been more action to the kills, we don't get to see it. Disappointing.

The commentary annoyed me. The director tried too hard to be funny.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 30, 2009, 11:30:36 PM
Watched this one for the first time in a while Monday night. Still not my fave, but fun times.
The hick mom and son still kill me after 24 years.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on July 31, 2009, 09:19:16 AM
she is so funny wish she had lived X)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 31, 2009, 11:58:15 PM
i watch this movie maybe once or twice a month... epically now that my lil one has a new liking for "jay jay" (jason)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on August 04, 2009, 01:47:37 PM
Quote
Ms. Voorhees' knockers? say what?

Debi Su Voorhees'. The dark haired one.  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 09, 2009, 09:38:35 AM
haha.. im watchin this right now.... and demon just ran into the porta potty...him and reggie run almost the same way... i know they're really not brothers.. but just a little somethin i noticed.... "oooo baby... ooo baby".. sorry .. that parts on now ....





anyone else notice the "fadden was here" written on the wall behind demon?... that vic's lat name Victor J. Fadden.... silly them tryin to fool us.. haha


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on August 14, 2009, 02:43:54 PM
I thought demon's girl friend was kind of sexy in a bad girl kind of way.  8)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on August 27, 2009, 07:58:13 AM
Anita was real pretty!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on August 27, 2009, 01:31:54 PM
"oooo baby... ooo baby".. sorry .. that parts on now ....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy0gGQWnC8A


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on September 06, 2009, 01:23:42 PM
i always thought that was a little annoying


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on September 06, 2009, 01:36:53 PM
i always thought that was a little annoying

really?.. ive always loved that part...  shows theyre jokesters with each other...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on September 06, 2009, 02:28:08 PM
The most annoying part for me was that stupid greaser guy singing, "a ra ta ta ta toey." I mean, what the fuck is "a ra ta ta ta toey?" What is that? I can picture "Jason" sitting in the back seat with his hands over his ears wishing for the guy to shut the hell up.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on September 06, 2009, 02:51:31 PM
The most annoying part for me was that stupid greaser guy singing, "a ra ta ta ta toey." I mean, what the fuck is "a ra ta ta ta toey?" What is that? I can picture "Jason" sitting in the back seat with his hands over his ears wishing for the guy to shut the hell up.

LMFAO - great, now I'll picture Tom Morga in Jason costume doing just that. haha


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on September 07, 2009, 12:21:36 AM
That is probably why he slit the throat. He decided to slice the voice box to shut him up...or maybe he watch Carpenter's Halloween the night before and decided to treat the greaser like Annie.  :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on September 12, 2009, 11:17:55 AM
That is probably why he slit the throat. He decided to slice the voice box to shut him up...or maybe he watch Carpenter's Halloween the night before and decided to treat the greaser like Annie.  :P

LOL. good call on the annie.. ive thought that before!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on September 16, 2009, 12:20:21 AM
That is probably why he slit the throat. He decided to slice the voice box to shut him up...or maybe he watch Carpenter's Halloween the night before and decided to treat the greaser like Annie.  :P

thats so funny!
if i was jason thats what would be my motive for going for her neck lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on September 18, 2009, 11:58:38 AM
You can totally think of Jason sitting there thinking, "a ra ta ta ta SHUT THE FUCK UP!"  :jason11:

Seriously, that greaser was the most annoying character in the Friday universe. He was the Tina (Halloween 5) of the Friday franchise. What is with Part 5's and annoying characters anyway?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ghost on October 09, 2009, 11:31:27 AM
I LOVE PART 5! top 3!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 10, 2009, 12:00:51 PM
to this day.. violets's death scene is one of my all time favorites.. her dance... the music... the camera angle shots...i would LOVE to see an homage to her in the upcomming friday13..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on October 22, 2009, 11:24:50 PM
i know
the dance is strange though
but cool :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on October 23, 2009, 02:36:19 PM
Violet's death scene is the best shot death scene in the movie. I just wish the original death was left in. It would have been gruesome!

(http://www.campblood.net/gallery/albums/uploads/BTS/Pt5/5bts17.jpg)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Regan/Pazuzu on October 27, 2009, 05:32:49 AM
violet was hot  ;D

i love part 5!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Fallen on October 27, 2009, 03:31:22 PM
to this day.. violets's death scene is one of my all time favorites.. her dance... the music... the camera angle shots...i would LOVE to see an homage to her in the upcomming friday13..

I agree fully... that dance is like a weird version of the robot and I wish I could do it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: mangler on October 28, 2009, 08:25:54 AM
The lone strike against this one imo is that the killer ain't Jason. Obviously it sounds funny when talkin about a damn Friday the 13th movie, but that fucks wit the movie's 'integrity.' The kills are pretty good, and they try to keep it a whodunit most of the way, but as noted earlier in this thread they gave it away as Roy early as hell. They ain't even give him the same mask and outfit as Jason that Tommy sees in his visions. Since Jason comin out his grave at the start is revealed as a dream sequence, you know from the start sumthin's up. I did like Ethel n Jr tho. They a funny pair here. But this is 1 of my least liked entries. If the idea was to turn Tommy into the killer, they shoulda just done here, instead of havin him pushed over the edge by a copycat then takin over in the 6th, as I guess was the plan. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on October 30, 2009, 12:41:26 PM
Quote
Since Jason comin out his grave at the start is revealed as a dream sequence, you know from the start sumthin's up

Funny thing is I have read a lot of reviews of this movie from when the movie was released through to now and a lot of them liked the beginning. However, once it was revealed to be a dream it ruined their perception of the movie and then they couldn't really give a totally unbiased take on the movie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Giganta on November 07, 2009, 12:37:40 AM
I love part 5 Lana is an awesome character "It's showtime"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 07, 2009, 07:59:07 AM
although small parts both lana and billy are good charachters... unlike that usless wanderer lookin for work... he sucked..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Giganta on November 07, 2009, 12:06:02 PM
The wanderer was a perv watching  Tina and Eddie


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 07, 2009, 02:16:20 PM
The wanderer was a perv watching  Tina and Eddie

ya .. total perv.. he even licks his lips LOL


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: MotorexGTR32 on November 09, 2009, 02:25:56 AM
Whats the deal with the ending? I am confused because Tommy dreamed it by hacked Pam in the stomach with the machete then he woke up, sweated like hell.

Now after he woke up, he picked up Roy's mask from the drawer. How he get the mask and why Tommy was wearing the mask and sneak up behind Pam? That confused me like hell.

Then Part 6, hes fine and officially sanity. Tommy escaped from the institution without what exactly happen in the ending of Part 5.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Starman on November 09, 2009, 04:38:28 PM
Whats the deal with the ending? I am confused because Tommy dreamed it by hacked Pam in the stomach with the machete then he woke up, sweated like hell.

Now after he woke up, he picked up Roy's mask from the drawer. How he get the mask and why Tommy was wearing the mask and sneak up behind Pam? That confused me like hell.

Then Part 6, hes fine and officially sanity. Tommy escaped from the institution without what exactly happen in the ending of Part 5.

hmm i wonder that too..i dunno probably prank on her or something but no idea


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: maestro710 on November 09, 2009, 06:57:20 PM
I've always liked part 5.  I remember seeing it for the first time at a drive-in.  I was 13 years old and pretty excited to see any Friday the 13th movie on the big screen.

Definitely not the best of the series, but certainly not the worst.

I only wish we'd get the chance to see this movie uncut, but it sounds like all the cut footage was tossed.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 10, 2009, 09:06:47 AM
Whats the deal with the ending? I am confused because Tommy dreamed it by hacked Pam in the stomach with the machete then he woke up, sweated like hell.

Now after he woke up, he picked up Roy's mask from the drawer. How he get the mask and why Tommy was wearing the mask and sneak up behind Pam? That confused me like hell.

Then Part 6, hes fine and officially sanity. Tommy escaped from the institution without what exactly happen in the ending of Part 5.


it really is a mystery how tommy got roys mask... but him stabbing pam was just a part of his hallucinations..... and as for him puttin on the mask and sneaking up on pam as if to stab her.... i think he finally snapped.... weather he killed her or not is up for speculation....she could have tunred around and seen him and dodged it.. or he froze up.. or a nurse walked in... its all left  to the mind of the viewer....




Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: MotorexGTR32 on November 10, 2009, 03:21:22 PM

it really is a mystery how tommy got roys mask... but him stabbing pam was just a part of his hallucinations..... and as for him puttin on the mask and sneaking up on pam as if to stab her.... i think he finally snapped.... weather he killed her or not is up for speculation....she could have tunred around and seen him and dodged it.. or he froze up.. or a nurse walked in... its all left  to the mind of the viewer....





If that is so then how can you explain it by Part 6? Yeah, he escaped from the institution with his friend, Hawes but it never explains on why he is in the institution.

I really do like Part 5 but my only dislike about this movie is the ending. Wish I could see the alternative ending if they have it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 10, 2009, 06:58:32 PM

If that is so then how can you explain it by Part 6? Yeah, he escaped from the institution with his friend, Hawes but it never explains on why he is in the institution.

I really do like Part 5 but my only dislike about this movie is the ending. Wish I could see the alternative ending if they have it.



he's in the instituion because of his acts at the end of pt 5


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Giganta on November 22, 2009, 06:13:51 PM
I talked to the director Danny Steinmann at fango in NY and he told me Pam dies after the movie ends he said "Pam dies 30 seconds after the movie ends"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on March 06, 2010, 08:04:34 PM
after recently watching friday the 13th pt 5... i couldnt help but notice a slight resemblance between junior and francis from peewee.. i was in an altered state of mind.. but i dunno.. just thought it was funny....


(http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/juniorf13.PNG)
(http://content7.flixster.com/photo/54/10/47/5410477_tml.jpg)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on March 06, 2010, 08:35:40 PM
Awesome! There are some real similarities between the characters. "He hurt me ma, he really hurt me!"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ferky on March 10, 2010, 07:46:07 PM
I watched 5 again 2nite on dvd and i think its a real shame how much of the gore they removed from this film, nearly every death is toned down so much that half the time u only see the weapon and not them actually dying its pathetic.

I like the film but think it would of been so much better if it wasnt so cut down, maybe because im a goremonger  :P

I wish they would remake all the original friday the 13th's with new characters but same stories but with loads more gore as they can get away with alot more these days, as the original ones im assuming the gore that they have removed most of its been trashed and will never see the light of day, i have seen some of the cut scenes on youtube i think or somewhere but alot of it is probably disposed of and it just takes that extra edge out of the films for me.

I saw some of the original films when they first came out and looking back at them now there has been so much cut out on the Crystal lake to manhattan dvd collection, especially in part 5.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on March 21, 2010, 11:52:22 PM
Part 8 was the one that got cut the most.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on March 23, 2010, 04:57:00 AM
It was meant to be that he killed her. They were setting up for Tommy to be the killer in Part 6. People wanted Jason back, so they either ignored the ending or you can think of it as a double dream sequence.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: NightBreed on March 27, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
Anyone know who the song is by thats playing when Violet gets killed?  I was watching it last nite and was courious.. maybe I should have watched the credits..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on March 27, 2010, 05:47:34 PM
Anyone know who the song is by thats playing when Violet gets killed?  I was watching it last nite and was courious.. maybe I should have watched the credits..


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5hs4uHRPTo[/youtube]

this is awesome too....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7P3212CL40[/youtube]


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: NightBreed on March 27, 2010, 06:07:44 PM
LOL! thanks Jimmy, that dance off was funny, Jason really likes to boogie!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on March 28, 2010, 12:28:05 PM
LOL! thanks Jimmy, that dance off was funny, Jason really likes to boogie!



oh hell yeah he does... although this is "Jason Lives" Jason... he still knows how to boooogie down!.. ;D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqLfldO48FQ&NR=1[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ruLEDu0ETk&feature=related[/youtube]


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on March 31, 2010, 11:58:58 AM
Those videos are funny as hell dude. I like the Solja boy one.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 11, 2010, 10:56:58 AM
found this last night.. its pretty damn funny...


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0aeEKva0JM[/youtube]


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on April 11, 2010, 11:08:58 AM
Cute find Jimmy, I'll have to add that to the site haha.
That girl should not try to robot lol...not that I should talk..but I can honestly say I've never tried...and never will LOL.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ghost on April 11, 2010, 11:22:08 AM
Jimbo, the vid was awesome alone thx to the Manson poster :D but it was also funny.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 11, 2010, 01:21:00 PM
Cute find Jimmy, I'll have to add that to the site haha.
That girl should not try to robot lol...not that I should talk..but I can honestly say I've never tried...and never will LOL.

LOL.. come on kat.. bust a move!  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Robot5 on May 29, 2010, 12:34:39 AM
I don't hate this movie nearly as much as I used to. I even ended up buying the dvd, but I still don't think it's a Friday film at heart. It marks the beginning of the decline in quality for the series. 6 came back and held it together for one more film, then everything fell apart in my opinion. I consider this the first bad Friday film. Just because you take some teens and put them in the woods with a masked killer, doesn't mean you'll end up with a F13 movie. Oh well, at least it's not jason takes the fucking moon or something.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on May 29, 2010, 12:25:32 PM
The thing that bothers me the most about this movie, and this may be more the MPAA's fault than the filmmakers, is that they completely missed the point of making a Friday the 13th movie.

The previous four movies all had one thing in common: bloody, violent, gory, special-effects-driven deaths. Five was a cop out. The death scenes were like, raise the machete, hatchet, cleaver or weapon of choice, swing it toward the camera. The end. Junior's mother's death, for example. The cleaver is extended toward the camera. Then, we cut to a close up of her hand squeezing a tomato. And there were a lot of deaths in the movie like that. Tina. The shears are moved into position, and that's it. Later, we say what the shears did to her eyes, but we never get to see the shears doing it to her eyes.

It's a totally suggestive horror film. But suggestive horror films only work when there is suspense and good characters. Friday the 13th Part V has neither.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 29, 2010, 04:27:36 PM
i like your post on this Batty .
mostly , the last 2 lines ...

F13th pt5 was a total departure , and didn't have any of the main elements that made the previous 4 movies 'classic' , if you can call it that ?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 22, 2010, 12:56:49 AM
My favorite thing in the movie is the music,thats about it


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 22, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
found this last night.. its pretty damn funny...


[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0aeEKva0JM[/url][/youtube]

i thought was great !! pretty funny indeed ...
thanks for posting that , jimmyd !!
good one bro ..:)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 23, 2010, 07:24:43 PM
lol.. i just watched that again.. still a good laugh... and this film is due for a watching.. soon


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Pine Hurst on July 19, 2010, 03:20:17 AM
This is always ranked in my top 3 of the series. It's also my sentimental favorite. The first one of the series I watched more than one or two clips of.

I love Tommy in this one. Probably my favorite version of the character. John Shepherd is great.

The opening sequence is pretty cool.

I like the goofy characters in bit parts. The van driver. The waitress. The 50's greasers. Demon and his girlfriend.

I like Reggie the Reckless and Joey.

I love Ethel and Junior.

I like the fact that someone gets killed in this movie, that has nothing to so with Jason, or anyone wearing a hockey mask.

I like the Jason hullucinations. Pretty creepy.

I like Violet's robot dance.

This has the best nudity of the series. Three women. Real breasts, and all different sizes.

The chase at the end is one of the most exciting of the series, but it's not as creepy/scary as 2-4.

I love the hospital ending.

If there's any complaints: Too many deaths are standard. Pam kicks ass in the finale, but I wish her character were a little stronger.

Overall, this movie is entertaining from beginning from beginning to end. No dull spots.





Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 19, 2010, 08:47:41 AM



I like the fact that someone gets killed in this movie, that has nothing to so with Jason, or anyone wearing a hockey mask.





i agree with just about everything except this one... mainly cause roy used the JV legend to his advantage and copycatted it...and wore a mock JV mask...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Pine Hurst on July 19, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
I mean when Vic killed Joey.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Starman on July 19, 2010, 11:11:59 PM
I like Reggie the Reckless and Joey.

I love Ethel and Junior.

I like Violet's robot dance.

i agree (and reggie the reckless is the MAN lol) and violet look cute.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 20, 2010, 12:13:29 PM
Ahh I see what you mean now PH...and I think that's the only time a character other than JV/pam/roy kills another...I think haha


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ghost on July 20, 2010, 03:16:42 PM
Ahh I see what you mean now PH...and I think that's the only time a character other than JV/pam/roy kills another...I think haha

Alice kills Mrs Voorhees......


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on July 20, 2010, 03:20:37 PM
Alice kills Mrs Voorhees......

I think that is one of the exceptions because Mrs. Voorhees was the villain so it was justified, something like Vic killing Joey, Tina killing her father, or Wayne killing one of the students in Part 8 are all different. Your right though, Alice wasn't a killer and it was purely done out of self-defense/survival.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on July 20, 2010, 04:45:33 PM
that's a good point !!
at that scene in F13th , there was no question in Alice's mind .
it wasn't a case of ' wow this lady is mad at me' , or ' i hope she doesn't break my jaw' , etc...

she knew that Pamela was going to kill her . probably very brutally .
100 % , Alice decapitating her , was self defense . Alice was in survival mode .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on July 20, 2010, 04:57:18 PM
I think that is one of the exceptions because Mrs. Voorhees was the villain so it was justified, something like Vic killing Joey,

I love this movie, but I find it funny that the man who started the whole problem, Vic, gets away with murdering Roy's kid with no pseudo Jason punishment, but everyone else who had nothing to do with Joey's murder die by the blade.  ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on July 20, 2010, 05:06:42 PM
I love this movie, but I find it funny that the man who started the whole problem, Vic, gets away with murdering Roy's kid with no pseudo Jason punishment, but everyone else who had nothing to do with Joey's murder die by the blade.  ;)

Absolutely jasonsfury, this movie has a lot of crazy moments but what do you expect from a director who also dabbled into the Porno genre :D We have crazy 50's greasers, redneck hicks, and a smooth talking Michael Jackson/Prince musician. I think the movie would have been a lot more effective though if Vic was the killer, and by killing Joey his rage ends up going through the roof. The last shot we get of Vic is where he is sitting in the back seat of a police vehicle content with himself, really disappointing.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 20, 2010, 11:49:06 PM
@dawg...yeah what I meant was other than any killing involving the villain/ heroine...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ghost on July 21, 2010, 12:18:43 AM
I knew jimbo :) I am just an ass.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: maSta prAylude on August 06, 2010, 10:23:00 AM
***********BUMP************


I absolutely hated this movie, I only bought it to become 1 movie away from completing my Friday movie collection. Earlier this morning I decided to finally open this movie up, and put it in.

I LOVE THIS MOVIE.

After watching it, and actually paying attention to it. It's great to me.... It kind of in a way reminds me of Friday the 13th (1980).  Roy's son was killed, and he was taking revenge on anyone and everyone, Just like Pamela Voorhees and Jason. It made him snap. Also to keep the Jason image looking good, too. He played Jason very well. The walk/look(besides the mask was blue markings), and some of the kills were really good. I really liked the characters too. I wasn't such a fan of this film until I gave it another chance, earlier this morning..
   I wasn't such a fan of the ending though. I honestly wish that Tommy would of been killed in this film, and gotten rid of. He was absolutely worthless. He was just a big scared cat...
I also liked the fact of the whole dream sequence with Cory. First time using the "digging up Jason" act, and made it a very good scene for part 6 to use. There are a lot of good elements in this movie. This movie has moved from bottom of my Friday list, to closer top..

Might I add also..... This movie has my favorite Jason theme in it, too.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 06, 2010, 06:44:31 PM
This movie is definitely a misdirection for the series but personally I find it an entertaining one. I mean you have 50's Greasers, Redneck Hicks, a Michael Jackson/Prince artist, and a Goth/New Wave/Punk chick. All these characters are thrown into this Clue "Who Did It?" movie, but the difference from the original is that all of the major characters are shown right from the beginning. So there's no big shock, but it's hard to be surprised when the Sheriff says , "It's a damn shame..all these people gettin' killed" and Roy responds with, "You talkin' to me Sheriff?" Not to mention the prolonged stare when he see's his son's remains. This movie also has a pretty huge bodycount compared to the previous F13th films, and I think that's attributed to this director's past experiences on the Porno Film business. You can tell that this film is more sleazy, and there are characters thrown here and there, just like in a Porno. Instead of the money shot though, we get a death scene, and that's why there are so many victims.

On it's own though this film is funny as hell, my favorite scene is when Demon is on the toilet and his girlfriend is cooing to him.

"Ooh Baby..Ooh Baby..Ooh Baby.."


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 3timesbefore on August 06, 2010, 07:13:15 PM
This movie is awesome. It had a trashy gothic atmosphere that none of the others had. You've got similarities to Part 3 with the Higgins barn making a repeat appearance - I think it may even be the same one - a creepy halfway house where they let dangerous psychopaths chop wood with an axe, and every character is so unique you want them to hang around just to hear another pearl. I wanted to hear more from Violet, she was scary-cute and had a bit of a dangerous edge to her. Look at her face when she scowls at Joey. I bet if she had lasted until the end instead of Pam, she would have sunk her black painted fingernails into Roy's latex head.

Roy is also a great substitute for Jason. He has Pamela's motivation and he actually created that latex Jason head for his disguise. I love that unintended character development. On another note, Tina sure had a death wish. She's lying fully nude on a blanket in the middle of the woods when there was a brutal murder at the same place she's living, there are crazy redneck neighbors who threatened to kill her for such lewd displays, a mysterious drifter passing through - who actually is watching her at that time - and a demented killer hell bent on killing everyone at the aforementioned place she's staying. Whew. You want to be staying indoors and away from windows with a shotgun by your side in a situation like that, not skipping around in your birthday suit.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 06, 2010, 07:20:55 PM
Roy is also a great substitute for Jason. He has Pamela's motivation and he actually created that latex Jason head for his disguise. I love that unintended character development.

The latex undermask and hockey mask combo must be the reason why Roy was walking painfully slow in this movie. After this film Jason does the same slow walk which becomes a stereotype for slashers in general, in the sense that no matter how slow they are, they'll eventually get you. Roy's reveal to be the killer was definitely a Scooby Doo moment though, no doubt about it. With Jason, the mask is pulled off and it's revealed to be a deformed man bent on killing you, where as Roy is a regular man. I'll give this movie some props though, there's quite a few inventive kills in this one and aren't the usual hack 'n' slash variety.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 3timesbefore on August 06, 2010, 07:30:05 PM
The latex undermask and hockey mask combo must be the reason why Roy was walking painfully slow in this movie.

I agree. Plus it was summertime. He must have been pouring sweat because it also looks like that latex mold went down to his chest. The mechanic's suit is open at the neck the same way Jason's shirt was in Part 3, mainly so they could show off the deformed neck. Roy's neck/upper chest area looks deformed like Jason's, with creases and odd blemishes. That definitely wasn't his real flesh.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: maSta prAylude on August 07, 2010, 06:32:23 AM
haha, SK. I really thought that scene was funny as hell. Slayed using the toilet....

also the roadflare was funny, too.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 07, 2010, 02:01:14 PM
***********BUMP************


I absolutely hated this movie, I only bought it to become 1 movie away from completing my Friday movie collection. Earlier this morning I decided to finally open this movie up, and put it in.

I LOVE THIS MOVIE.

After watching it, and actually paying attention to it. It's great to me.... It kind of in a way reminds me of Friday the 13th (1980).  Roy's son was killed, and he was taking revenge on anyone and everyone, Just like Pamela Voorhees and Jason. It made him snap. Also to keep the Jason image looking good, too. He played Jason very well. The walk/look(besides the mask was blue markings), and some of the kills were really good. I really liked the characters too. I wasn't such a fan of this film until I gave it another chance, earlier this morning..
   I wasn't such a fan of the ending though. I honestly wish that Tommy would of been killed in this film, and gotten rid of. He was absolutely worthless. He was just a big scared cat...
I also liked the fact of the whole dream sequence with Cory. First time using the "digging up Jason" act, and made it a very good scene for part 6 to use. There are a lot of good elements in this movie. This movie has moved from bottom of my Friday list, to closer top..

Might I add also..... This movie has my favorite Jason theme in it, too.


thats awesome dude.. i have always been a huge fan of this one... it  screams 80s.. but takes elements from other generations and as SK said with hints clue/scooby doo .. whats NOT to love about this film? lol  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: maSta prAylude on August 11, 2010, 12:39:45 PM
hah, yepp.  it's very fun.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 02:19:28 PM

thats awesome dude.. i have always been a huge fan of this one... it  screams 80s.. but takes elements from other generations and as SK said with hints clue/scooby doo .. whats NOT to love about this film? lol  ;D

A Lot of things lol.The killer isnt Jason-the kills are like quick flash kills-Some of the characters are very annoying-tommy is a mute-theres at least 3 kills that are not shown-its not in the woods and theres no lake-the ending is goofy


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 02:25:08 PM
Mediocre film overall, but Reggie the Reckless = Pure Win.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on August 11, 2010, 02:29:26 PM
Reggie is great, along with Demon, Ethel and Junior. I still love the road flare kill. Don't know why, but it always sticks out as one of the cooler, original killings.

(http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/anewbeginning_roadflare.jpg)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 02:31:16 PM
Reggie is great, along with Demon, Ethel and Junior. I still love the road flare kill. Don't know why, but it always sticks out as one of the cooler, original killings.

([url]http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/anewbeginning_roadflare.jpg[/url])
Wow. When you have that frozen as a still image, you really see how fake it looks. But, I agree. Cool killing.

By the way, Demon's girlfriend is pretty hot. She's got a Raven Symone thing going on.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: maSta prAylude on August 11, 2010, 02:40:08 PM
Hahahahahahhahahha

it does look hella fake..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 11, 2010, 02:42:28 PM
It really looks like one of those sex dolls..open mouth and all.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 02:47:07 PM
It really looks like one of those sex dolls..open mouth and all.

I so want to say something along the lines of, "You would know."

 :D :D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 11, 2010, 02:50:09 PM
I so want to say something along the lines of, "You would know."

 :D :D

Hey it was given to me as a birthday gift, Antonio Banderas style :-X


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 02:52:17 PM
Awesomeness.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: maSta prAylude on August 11, 2010, 02:54:06 PM
Hey it was given to me as a birthday gift, Antonio Banderas style :-X

kinkyyyyy


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: MikeGrosso on August 13, 2010, 11:17:55 PM
Love this movie it's been my favorite along with part 4 for a while. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 25, 2010, 10:14:37 AM
reggie the reckless  on fresh prine lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOEVlyJxPXY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOEVlyJxPXY)

and him a weasel on family matters lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0k4Bmt8X_s&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0k4Bmt8X_s&feature=related)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Starman on October 25, 2010, 04:15:38 PM
reggie the reckless  on fresh prine lol

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOEVlyJxPXY[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOEVlyJxPXY[/url])

and him a weasel on family matters lol

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0k4Bmt8X_s&feature=related[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0k4Bmt8X_s&feature=related[/url])


i'll remember that both episode on TV... weasel is funniest than waldo in family matters lol.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stan Below on November 12, 2010, 04:04:44 PM
I love this movie, it contained an interesting idea of doppleganger  ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 13, 2010, 10:30:07 AM
ive always loved 5 as well.. its just... fun lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on December 15, 2010, 07:12:57 PM
I love the garden clipper kill, you think Roy sliced her throat but you find out it's her eyes he sliced


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 15, 2010, 11:29:16 PM
i still cant get over hoe uselss that dude lookin for work was lol.. and what a perv too lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Dizzy on December 16, 2010, 12:25:58 AM
i still cant get over hoe uselss that dude lookin for work was lol.. and what a perv too lol

That WAS funny, talk about a character that's only in the film to get killed!   :D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on January 23, 2011, 06:42:35 PM
Might as well jump on the love for Part V.

As everyone said before, Part V is the most underrated entry in the franchise. I love it to death. It was a very bold decision to change the format, but everything thought it was a good idea. Great acting, great and interesting story and of course great death scenes. Overall, Friday the 13th Part V: A New Beginning is a excellent, forgotten horror classic.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on January 23, 2011, 06:58:21 PM
its been too long since ive watched pt5... i remember when i first saw this on USA way back when.. i was totally fooled and thought it was jason lol..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 24, 2011, 12:43:46 PM
its been too long since ive watched pt5... i remember when i first saw this on USA way back when.. i was totally fooled and thought it was jason lol..

LOL, I can top that! My cousins brought this to the family Christmas party one year for the whole family to watch! Great fun! Even though I caught on pretty fast that wasn't the real Jason. It was the blue cheek checks that tipped me, but nobody would listen. the Jet got the last laugh in the end though, lol!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on January 24, 2011, 02:29:56 PM
When I first saw Part V, back on Spike TV, when they continued the Friday the 13th Marathons that TNN did, I was shocked to see that Jason wasn't the killer. The ending also kinda creeped my out a little bit when Tommy had the vision of Jason in the hospital. Then, Tommy had the mask on and I was like, "Oh My God ! Tommy's gonna go nuts !"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 25, 2011, 11:37:57 AM
When I first saw Part V, back on Spike TV, when they continued the Friday the 13th Marathons that TNN did, I was shocked to see that Jason wasn't the killer. The ending also kinda creeped my out a little bit when Tommy had the vision of Jason in the hospital. Then, Tommy had the mask on and I was like, "Oh My God ! Tommy's gonna go nuts !"

LOL, Tommy was already nuts by that time, bro.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on January 25, 2011, 03:12:21 PM
I know, but Tommy was going to be MORE crazy, if that is possible.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 26, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
I know, but Tommy was going to be MORE crazy, if that is possible.

Hey, I'm a Cub fan, I believe ANYTHING is possible, lmao.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on January 26, 2011, 02:49:47 PM
I know how you feel, I'm an Orioles fan.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Regan/Pazuzu on January 26, 2011, 07:17:23 PM
i watched part 5 again recently, probably the 15th time! haha i love it!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 27, 2011, 10:55:14 AM
I know how you feel, I'm an Orioles fan.

LOL, oh, so you follow the Cubbies' Major League affiliate! Nice!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on January 27, 2011, 07:56:31 PM
i always wonder what happened to all the 'kids' to have them at that half way house.. are they ALL orphans? or have traumatic things happen?..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on January 27, 2011, 08:18:38 PM
i always wonder what happened to all the 'kids' to have them at that half way house.. are they ALL orphans? or have traumatic things happen?..

That's what I always wondered about too jimmy. It's apparent that Joey was an orphan, Violet was a social outcast, and Vic had anger issues. I understand that a halfway house is not just for kids who have been institutionalized but I think we can all agree that Tommy has the biggest problem trying to fit back into society. The rest of the kids could have been runaways, or had problems in school trying to fit in.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 28, 2011, 11:36:49 AM
Yeah, I see Pinehurst as being like part hospital and part alternative school (but they didn't really have that term then so they used halfway house.)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on January 28, 2011, 11:25:17 PM
Quote
Posted by: Jet  Yesterday at 10:55:14 AM

LOL, oh, so you follow the Cubbies' Major League affiliate! Nice!

Yes sir, Baltimore born and raised. Now, I live in a dumb wanna-be hick town in Pennsylvania, I'm thinking about opening up a summer camp here.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 29, 2011, 04:21:27 AM
Yes sir, Baltimore born and raised. Now, I live in a dumb wanna-be hick town in Pennsylvania, I'm thinking about opening up a summer camp here.

LOL, I can see it now, Lambs to the Slaughter Camp!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 29, 2011, 12:19:27 PM
i watched part 5 again recently, probably the 15th time! haha i love it!
good call !
pt 5 is kind of a fun entry in the series .

i've been watching F13th flicks lately (not in any order , as i've seen them all tons of times , and continuity hasn't been a factor since the beginning of pt 3 IMO)

i might watch pt 5 tonight ....
cheers :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 30, 2011, 03:25:17 AM
I think, and always will, that part 5 got way tooo much shit heaped on it. The problem with any series is you've always got that one extremely vocal group of fans who can't stand when something new is attempted. These message boards are crawling with them and I can't stand it because they turn off new fans to what can be some of the best movies of a given series and they can almost never give a logical reason why, they always come up with something like "Well, that wasn't a REAL Friday the 13th (Halloween, Nightmare, whatever)" and it's just stupid.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on January 30, 2011, 10:29:46 AM
Quote
Posted by: Jet Posted on: Yesterday at 04:21:27 AM 

LOL, I can see it now, Lambs to the Slaughter Camp!

Yes sir. Most of the kids are dumb as hell in this town. So, they'd fit right in for a Friday the 13th film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 30, 2011, 11:25:14 AM
Yes sir. Most of the kids are dumb as hell in this town. So, they'd fit right in for a Friday the 13th film.

LOL, as much as I hate to be that guy and be the dick, I have to say that that's prettyh prevalant among the teenagers today. Not all of them, of course, but a whole lot of them are dumb as a brick of shit.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on January 30, 2011, 06:12:01 PM
It's cool man, don't worry about being a jerk, you're only speaking the truth. I hate being a teenager sometimes.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 31, 2011, 12:17:30 PM
It's cool man, don't worry about being a jerk, you're only speaking the truth. I hate being a teenager sometimes.

Hey, I can tell by talking to you you got way better sense than most teenagers I'm exposed to. LOL, just be sure to make sure your little friends know that the next "Fright Night" is not the REAL "Fright Night."


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on January 31, 2011, 02:13:57 PM
Thanks man, at least somebody made the correct observation about me.

All the kids will be like, "What's Fright Night ?" :(


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Dizzy on January 31, 2011, 05:56:53 PM
I have to say that that's prettyh prevalant among the teenagers today. Not all of them, of course, but a whole lot of them are dumb as a brick of shit.

You're not kidding... they prefer the remake.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on January 31, 2011, 09:41:39 PM
Unfourtunatley, kids today don't know true cinema. They all think Rob Zombie's Halloween is a masterpiece, the guy is a untalented ass-clown when it comes to film, and casts his wife in the same exact role, a whore. Purely just my opinion.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on February 01, 2011, 12:10:51 PM
Unfourtunatley, kids today don't know true cinema. They all think Rob Zombie's Halloween is a masterpiece, the guy is a untalented ass-clown when it comes to film, and casts his wife in the same exact role, a whore. Purely just my opinion.

LOL, some of them probably aren't aware there was any Halloween besides Zombie's.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on February 01, 2011, 01:42:02 PM
Unfourtunatley. And they think The Grudge and The Ring are Oscar-winning material.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on February 01, 2011, 01:46:25 PM
Unfourtunatley. And they think The Grudge and The Ring are Oscar-winning material.

LOL, and unfortunately Ron White was right. "You can't fix stupid."


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: petervincent on February 01, 2011, 04:21:05 PM
But Ron White's the man, so it's ok. LOL.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on April 25, 2011, 11:33:54 AM
Over all the Movie was Great the deaths were Awesome And the Acting was better but the ending, the kick off to the Stacks On the Ground Would be alot better if the Stacks Got put threw the head of roy burns.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: coolj712 on May 16, 2011, 05:07:54 PM
i actually knew it probly wasn't jason at the start because of the blue marks on the mask and not the red


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on May 17, 2011, 06:34:42 AM
Same, my giveway was the him it's self the fact that he wasn't In form, and that Tractor hit near the End Wouldn't evan Keep jason down for a second.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Tord on May 23, 2011, 07:19:28 AM
I just realized,

He kills:

2 Wanna Be Douche Bag Greasers, A Cocaine Head, A Slutty Waitress, A Chicken Shit Cleaner, An overly hot girl, A six-packed pranker, A Stoner, Michael Jackson, A dumbshit, An old dirty hag, A Stuttering kid, A cute rejecter, Goth with good moves, A sadistic ambulance  driver, A guy who likes mental people, a lover for Reggie.

BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN KILL THE ONE WHO MURDERED JOEY IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?!?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: slasherfan on May 23, 2011, 07:23:01 AM
I just realized,

He kills:

2 Wanna Be Douche Bag Greasers, A Cocaine Head, A Slutty Waitress, A Chicken Shit Cleaner, An overly hot girl, A six-packed pranker, A Stoner, Michael Jackson, A dumbshit, An old dirty hag, A Stuttering kid, A cute rejecter, Goth with good moves, A sadistic ambulance  driver, A guy who likes mental people, a lover for Reggie.

BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN KILL THE ONE WHO MURDERED JOEY IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?!?

This blows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 23, 2011, 05:08:13 PM
I just realized,

He kills:

2 Wanna Be Douche Bag Greasers, A Cocaine Head, A Slutty Waitress, A Chicken Shit Cleaner, An overly hot girl, A six-packed pranker, A Stoner, Michael Jackson, A dumbshit, An old dirty hag, A Stuttering kid, A cute rejecter, Goth with good moves, A sadistic ambulance  driver, A guy who likes mental people, a lover for Reggie.

BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN KILL THE ONE WHO MURDERED JOEY IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?!?
a great oversight perhaps ??

actually , i'm kidding Tord . that's a great observation bro.. i never picked up on that before ! good one  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on May 23, 2011, 05:21:20 PM

BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN KILL THE ONE WHO MURDERED JOEY IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?!?

It's because he was in the bathroom. Damn enchiladas...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Tord on May 23, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
It's because he was in the bathroom. Damn enchiladas...

Stay of Drugs? Yeah..
Stay of Smokes? Yeah..
Stay of Enchiladas? Definitely!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on May 27, 2011, 10:59:32 PM
How could he? Vic was arrested and was locked up....anyone else notice his name written on the ports potty wall??


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: slasherfan on May 28, 2011, 09:14:33 PM
How could he? Vic was arrested and was locked up....anyone else notice his name written on the ports potty wall??

yeah!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Regan/Pazuzu on May 29, 2011, 01:05:09 AM
i'm recording a cover of "His Eyes" even got consent to do so from Pseudo Echo's singer and he even wants to hear it when i'm done, so awesome :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Tord on May 29, 2011, 01:24:14 AM
How could he? Vic was arrested and was locked up....anyone else notice his name written on the ports potty wall??

Meh, but that doesn't give you sense to kill off the people at Pine Hurst. He did not even attempt!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on May 29, 2011, 08:58:27 AM
Joey was my favorite character is the hole series, No kidding.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 03, 2011, 10:15:59 PM
The girl Debi Sue Voorhees played.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Tord on June 04, 2011, 07:58:53 PM
The girl Debi Sue Voorhees played.

Tina, Mmm mmm. She was the hottest out of the series.

Lucky Eddie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 05, 2011, 04:05:31 PM
Tina, Mmm mmm. She was the hottest out of the series.

Lucky Eddie.

Oh yeah.  Trent was lucky too. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 05, 2011, 05:24:01 PM
I thought the girls in this one were mehh...nothing special....debbie sue was the hottest ..she also had some perfect boobs lol...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on June 06, 2011, 04:50:18 AM
I thought the girls in this one were mehh...nothing special....debbie sue was the hottest ..she also had some perfect boobs lol...

The girls in this film were pretty hot, Jimmy. I mean, Tina, Lana, Pam, Anita, all very hot. Violet, too. It'sjust the drop off after was a lot steeper than any other Friday film ever.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Tord on June 06, 2011, 05:45:36 AM
The girls in this film were pretty hot, Jimmy. I mean, Tina, Lana, Pam, Anita, all very hot. Violet, too. It'sjust the drop off after was a lot steeper than any other Friday film ever.

You forgot Robin, she was extremely cute in this.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on June 06, 2011, 05:46:57 AM
You forgot Robin, she was extremely cute in this.
Bitch mean to Poor Joey.

He just wanted to HELP!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on June 06, 2011, 05:55:03 AM
You forgot Robin, she was extremely cute in this.

True, but she was quite a drop off from say Tina or Pam.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on June 06, 2011, 06:20:17 AM
True, but she was quite a drop off from say Tina or Pam.

She was.

say, are you gonna still be doing Richard in Roleplay.



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on June 06, 2011, 06:26:17 AM
She was.

say, are you gonna still be doing Richard in Roleplay.



Sorry about this, I didn't want to go off topic with this.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: sake on June 14, 2011, 12:28:55 PM
does anybody knows what Junior's moped is??


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: PhenomenalTLD on October 18, 2011, 01:23:02 PM
I saw this movie when I was 3 years old at the theatre. No joke. 3 years old. For the longest time I thought Jason was the killer in this one. Guess not. Good movie though...aside from no Jason  :jason5:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on October 18, 2011, 05:56:31 PM
I saw this movie when I was 3 years old at the theatre. No joke. 3 years old. For the longest time I thought Jason was the killer in this one. Guess not. Good movie though...aside from no Jason  :jason5:

Do you remember if people were looking at your parents funny?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: PhenomenalTLD on October 19, 2011, 02:16:54 PM
Do you remember if people were looking at your parents funny?
Actually I went with my friend's family and I think we sat front row. Not sure if everyone gave us weird looks since I was only 3 at the time lol. I will tell you this, I relayed the story to the director (Steinmann) and he was weirded out by the fact that I saw the movie when I was 3. Now Dick Weiland on the other hand (Roy) was flattered by my love of the series. This is why I love horror conventions.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on October 20, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
Actually I went with my friend's family and I think we sat front row. Not sure if everyone gave us weird looks since I was only 3 at the time lol. I will tell you this, I relayed the story to the director (Steinmann) and he was weirded out by the fact that I saw the movie when I was 3. Now Dick Weiland on the other hand (Roy) was flattered by my love of the series. This is why I love horror conventions.
As you well should.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JDW89 on October 30, 2011, 11:36:58 PM
Throwing in my 2 cents here... I just bought the new box set recently and have watched parts 1-8 and when I came to part 5 I had forgot (or maybe I never knew in the first place) that Jason wasn't actually the killer in this one, but it was Roy. I don't think it really takes anything away from the series itself, in actuality I think it adds a lot to the story because when part 6 comes around and Jason comes back to life the majority of the people in the town think that Tommy is crazy for what he is saying. A lot of the people pass Jason off as being a legend and being dead for sometime, etc etc and thus the people are kind of dumb so to speak and Jason has the chance to surprise them all once again.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on October 31, 2011, 12:26:40 PM
Throwing in my 2 cents here... I just bought the new box set recently and have watched parts 1-8 and when I came to part 5 I had forgot (or maybe I never knew in the first place) that Jason wasn't actually the killer in this one, but it was Roy. I don't think it really takes anything away from the series itself, in actuality I think it adds a lot to the story because when part 6 comes around and Jason comes back to life the majority of the people in the town think that Tommy is crazy for what he is saying. A lot of the people pass Jason off as being a legend and being dead for sometime, etc etc and thus the people are kind of dumb so to speak and Jason has the chance to surprise them all once again.

You're totally right. After Roy there's no way anyone would believe Tommy about Jason, they'd just say it was another copy cat, point to the fact that they had just had one, and suspect Tommy because he was mentally FUBAR after Jason and Roy. The whole Roy angle really worked to Jason's advantage and really brought something to the series.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on October 31, 2011, 09:43:29 PM
You're totally right. After Roy there's no way anyone would believe Tommy about Jason, they'd just say it was another copy cat, point to the fact that they had just had one, and suspect Tommy because he was mentally FUBAR after Jason and Roy. The whole Roy angle really worked to Jason's advantage and really brought something to the series.

Of course, Jason had no way of knowing about Roy. 

I wonder if Roy and Vic had the same jail cell. 

The sheriff in part 6 thought TOMMY was the copy cat from what I remember. Or thought he wanted to be one.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 08, 2011, 11:10:58 PM
So many useless characters in this one..I don't dislike any.. but there's at least 4 people in the film for 2 min only to be killed off...I like to get to know the victims before they check out lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 09, 2011, 07:14:17 AM
So many useless characters in this one..I don't dislike any.. but there's at least 4 people in the film for 2 min only to be killed off...I like to get to know the victims before they check out lol

Slasher movies are NOT known for character development.  You might not get your wish here, at least SOME of the time.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 12, 2011, 01:34:02 PM
Of course, Jason had no way of knowing about Roy. 

I wonder if Roy and Vic had the same jail cell. 

The sheriff in part 6 thought TOMMY was the copy cat from what I remember. Or thought he wanted to be one.

Roy never made it to a cell, he went straight to the morgue.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 12, 2011, 08:26:58 PM
Roy never made it to a cell, he went straight to the morgue.
It would have been hysterical in part 6 to see Roy buried next to Jason.  Don't you think?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 13, 2011, 10:39:25 AM
It would have been hysterical in part 6 to see Roy buried next to Jason.  Don't you think?

LOL, wtf, why not?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 13, 2011, 10:47:50 AM
LOL, wtf, why not?
It would make for a great trivia question on F13 websites.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Wraith on November 20, 2011, 07:32:58 PM
I always get a chuckle at the end of the movie during the scene where Tommy wakes up from his nightmare because of how much John Shepard looks like John Ritter when he sits up.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 21, 2011, 06:46:27 AM
I always get a chuckle at the end of the movie during the scene where Tommy wakes up from his nightmare because of how much John Shepard looks like John Ritter when he sits up.

Only he didn't have Chrissy from Three's Company to make him feel better.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Wraith on November 21, 2011, 03:24:21 PM
Only he didn't have Chrissy from Three's Company to make him feel better.

He can have Chrissy.I'll take Janet anytime :D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 21, 2011, 04:14:59 PM
He can have Chrissy.I'll take Janet anytime :D

Thank you! Finally someone else who realizes that Janet was far and away sexier than Suzanne Sommers. Suzanne Sommers didn't even start to get hot until "She's the Sheriff" like ten years later.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 21, 2011, 07:21:36 PM
Thank you! Finally someone else who realizes that Janet was far and away sexier than Suzanne Sommers. Suzanne Sommers didn't even start to get hot until "She's the Sheriff" like ten years later.
Chrissy was too stupid to be real.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 23, 2011, 10:19:42 AM
Chrissy was too stupid to be real.

And I just did not like anything about her look. I always thought Janet, especially in the first few years, had a sort of Earthy beauty about her. Suzanne Sommers looked like they carved her face out of ice with a chainsaw. The second blonde roomie, Cindy, wasn't bad at all, but the third, the one who went on to be Leiter's wife in License to Kill, Priscilla Barnes, MEOW! Still though, Janet all the way!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 23, 2011, 10:45:27 AM
And I just did not like anything about her look. I always thought Janet, especially in the first few years, had a sort of Earthy beauty about her. Suzanne Sommers looked like they carved her face out of ice with a chainsaw. The second blonde roomie, Cindy, wasn't bad at all, but the third, the one who went on to be Leiter's wife in License to Kill, Priscilla Barnes, MEOW! Still though, Janet all the way!
Who takes Chrissy, born Christmas Snow, seriously anyway?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 24, 2011, 09:47:07 AM
Who takes Chrissy, born Christmas Snow, seriously anyway?

LOL, Patrick Duffy? that is when he's not busy being Snuzzlebutt's left leg.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 24, 2011, 05:23:42 PM
LOL, Patrick Duffy? that is when he's not busy being Snuzzlebutt's left leg.
He'd probably be the only one.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 26, 2011, 09:49:15 PM
He'd probably be the only one.

Well, now that Dallas is coming back on the air he doesn't have to anymore, either.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 27, 2011, 06:31:41 PM
Well, now that Dallas is coming back on the air he doesn't have to anymore, either.

Maybe we can get the whole " Who shot J.R." thing again.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 28, 2011, 09:20:48 AM
Maybe we can get the whole " Who shot J.R." thing again.

Well, according to Sheriff Tucker it was Jason Voorhees.....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 28, 2011, 12:02:03 PM
Well, according to Sheriff Tucker it was Jason Voorhees.....
I thought it was all one big dream.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 28, 2011, 12:35:04 PM
I thought it was all one big dream.

Nah, that was when Bobby died. If you thought that was real you've been out in the sun too long.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 29, 2011, 07:49:48 AM
Nah, that was when Bobby died. If you thought that was real you've been out in the sun too long.

Oh yeah - I was thinking Bobby dreamed J.R. was shot.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 29, 2011, 11:26:31 AM
Oh yeah - I was thinking Bobby dreamed J.R. was shot.

If dude was in bed with Victoria Principal and dreaming about his brother, dying was the LEAST of his problems.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 29, 2011, 12:40:12 PM
If dude was in bed with Victoria Principal and dreaming about his brother, dying was the LEAST of his problems.
that's why I think TV is more SURreal than REAL.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 30, 2011, 11:05:13 AM
that's why I think TV is more SURreal than REAL.

LOL, so true.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 30, 2011, 12:19:59 PM
LOL, so true.
Great minds think alike.  And you have a great mind, Jet. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 03, 2011, 09:19:35 PM
Great minds think alike.  And you have a great mind, Jet. 

Yeah, the owner probably wishes I would return it, lol.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 04, 2011, 05:07:50 PM
Yeah, the owner probably wishes I would return it, lol.
Rent A Center rents brains?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 05, 2011, 06:19:05 AM
Rent A Center rents brains?

Nah, snagged it when Dr. Frankenstein wasn't looking.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 05, 2011, 07:09:04 AM
Nah, snagged it when Dr. Frankenstein wasn't looking.
Better watch out for the big fella coming your way.  He's not wearing a mask either. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 05, 2011, 08:44:26 AM
Better watch out for the big fella coming your way.  He's not wearing a mask either. 

Shame, he could really use one.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 05, 2011, 10:07:29 AM
Shame, he could really use one.
I'll let him know you said so.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 07, 2011, 10:06:02 AM
I'll let him know you said so.

No problem! I'll just light a fire.....

FIRE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 07, 2011, 01:57:57 PM
No problem! I'll just light a fire.....

FIRE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!
Only if you get burnt. Frankenstien's monster is easy enough to run away from anyway.  If you're so inclined to do so.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 09, 2011, 12:39:26 PM
Only if you get burnt. Frankenstien's monster is easy enough to run away from anyway.  If you're so inclined to do so.

LOL, true.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 09, 2011, 07:59:46 PM
LOL, true.
Of course, I don't see the Jet as the running type.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 10, 2011, 10:32:07 AM
Of course, I don't see the Jet as the running type.

Nah, I'm more of the "Come at me, bro!" type. Probably going to get me killed one day.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 10, 2011, 04:20:03 PM
Nah, I'm more of the "Come at me, bro!" type. Probably going to get me killed one day.
If it helps, Imight be going down with ya!!!!!!!!  At least we'll go out with our boots on!!!!

" Die on your feet or live on your knees!!!!"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 11, 2011, 08:57:27 PM
" Die on your feet or live on your knees!!!!"

Truth.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 12, 2011, 06:59:29 AM
Truth.
Glad wee see eye to eye on these things.  As long as it's not the only eye Rick has left.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 13, 2011, 11:19:44 AM
Glad wee see eye to eye on these things.  As long as it's not the only eye Rick has left.

Or the one Jason gave Abel.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 13, 2011, 02:32:44 PM
Or the one Jason gave Abel.
Or mine!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 14, 2011, 12:38:22 PM
Or mine!!!!

Yeah, that would suck wouldn't it?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 14, 2011, 12:52:32 PM
Yeah, that would suck wouldn't it?
"This sucks on som many levels!!!"  Out the airlock I go.  - Famous Jason X scene.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jarofhair5 on January 14, 2012, 03:40:59 PM
never really cared for this one, unlike jason and his mother who killed anyone who ventured into the grounds of crystal lake, roy just kills people who have nothing to do with the plot and even people who he saw were clearly hurt over what had heppend to son


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jarofhair5 on January 14, 2012, 03:43:14 PM
i also felt they used too many of the same types of kills and a lot of them looked really fake


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Evildead13th on February 09, 2012, 10:21:08 AM
I just watched this last night for the millionth time and since I am watching the entire series currently, I am examining everything, all the smallest details that I may have never really thought about before and I found something for this entry. I was curious how Matt ended up nailed to the tree? Was he out for a stroll in the woods when he was attacked? How did Gramps get his eyes guaged out?

I also always wondered where people going into this film expecting Jason? I mean there are so many shots of where they focus on Roy and his reactions/facial expressions. With that being said, did people know to look for signs that this was more of a who done it type of horror film? When I first saw pt5 I hated it because Jason wasn't in it but as I watched it more in time I grew to like it a lot and actually appreciate it for doing something a little different w/ the series. A copy cat killer using Jason's appearance and motive. I think it works and I really appreciate the film for it. ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasn88cubs on February 09, 2012, 10:44:55 AM
I just watched this last night for the millionth time and since I am watching the entire series currently, I am examining everything, all the smallest details that I may have never really thought about before and I found something for this entry. I was curious how Matt ended up nailed to the tree? Was he out for a stroll in the woods when he was attacked? How did Gramps get his eyes guaged out?

I also always wondered where people going into this film expecting Jason? I mean there are so many shots of where they focus on Roy and his reactions/facial expressions. With that being said, did people know to look for signs that this was more of a who done it type of horror film? When I first saw pt5 I hated it because Jason wasn't in it but as I watched it more in time I grew to like it a lot and actually appreciate it for doing something a little different w/ the series. A copy cat killer using Jason's appearance and motive. I think it works and I really appreciate the film for it. ;)

Matt went looking for Tina and Eddie. Remember Tina and Eddie took of and were killed and Matt was upset that they hadn't came back. Not sure about Grandpa.

Roy is pretty much given away when he stares into the camera when Joey is killed and they plate that weird drama music.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasn88cubs on February 09, 2012, 10:49:13 AM
played** that weird drama music..

my typing is awful lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Evildead13th on February 09, 2012, 12:59:53 PM
Matt went looking for Tina and Eddie. Remember Tina and Eddie took of and were killed and Matt was upset that they hadn't came back. Not sure about Grandpa.

Roy is pretty much given away when he stares into the camera when Joey is killed and they plate that weird drama music.

Oh yes, that's right. I forgot about Tina and Eddie, for some reason I thought he was just going to wait there for them to turn up. That actually makes a lot of sense.

Yeah, Roy is basically a dead give away but did the audience know that? When I first saw the film I thought it was Jason and had no idea to be paying attention to Roy or suspect anyone of committing the murders. I was only like 8 years old when this movie came out and so I don't know how it was marketed other than the tag line: "If Jason still haunts you, then you're not alone!" I'm just really curious and wonder what people who saw it for the first time thought. I remember making a few of ex girlfriends watch the entire series and even my wife had sat through them at one point since it's kind of an intiation thing I did w/ my girlfriends, if you love me then you'll watch all of the F13th films because it's something that I'm passionate about. Anyways, the point I was getting to is that none of them thought it was Roy and thought Jason was doing all the killing. Hell, like I said even I was fooled the very first time through the series when I got to this sequel. Lol!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on February 09, 2012, 01:55:56 PM
never really cared for this one, unlike jason and his mother who killed anyone who ventured into the grounds of crystal lake, roy just kills people who have nothing to do with the plot and even people who he saw were clearly hurt over what had heppend to son
Why was Joey living at the halfway house if Roy cared so much about his son that he would kill for him, fuck, talk about extreme, maybe he could start small and just come and visit him once in a while, maybe send a birthday card. The guy who actually killed Joey survived because he got arrested so Roy really didn't even get revenge.

I still like this film anyway even if the plot doesn't make much sense. It just wasn't a well thought out way to bring Jason back. Too many holes in the Joey/Roy plotline. If the holes were filled in and it made more sense, it would have been great. I do like the idea of a copycat killer .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on February 09, 2012, 02:06:11 PM
Matt went looking for Tina and Eddie. Remember Tina and Eddie took of and were killed and Matt was upset that they hadn't came back. Not sure about Grandpa.

Roy is pretty much given away when he stares into the camera when Joey is killed and they plate that weird drama music.
Yeah, it's obvious as hell when you go back and re-watch it. I don't think anyone expected it though. Sadly, my cousin ruined this movie for me when I was 10 and watching it for the first time and she said
Spoiler (hover to show)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasn88cubs on February 09, 2012, 03:35:59 PM
Why was Joey living at the halfway house if Roy cared so much about his son that he would kill for him, fuck, talk about extreme, maybe he could start small and just come and visit him once in a while, maybe send a birthday card. The guy who actually killed Joey survived because he got arrested so Roy really didn't even get revenge.

I still like this film anyway even if the plot doesn't make much sense. It just wasn't a well thought out way to bring Jason back. Too many holes in the Joey/Roy plotline. If the holes were filled in and it made more sense, it would have been great. I do like the idea of a copycat killer .

Yea, how did Roy have an updated picture of Joey???

But yea, the camera shot when Roy was covering up Joey and when Roy said to the sheriff "You talking to me" and when he went back to the ambulance he stopped and gave a weird look


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Evildead13th on February 09, 2012, 09:04:07 PM
Why was Joey living at the halfway house if Roy cared so much about his son that he would kill for him, fuck, talk about extreme, maybe he could start small and just come and visit him once in a while, maybe send a birthday card. The guy who actually killed Joey survived because he got arrested so Roy really didn't even get revenge.

I still like this film anyway even if the plot doesn't make much sense. It just wasn't a well thought out way to bring Jason back. Too many holes in the Joey/Roy plotline. If the holes were filled in and it made more sense, it would have been great. I do like the idea of a copycat killer .

Exactly Nikki. I never understood any of that myself.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on February 10, 2012, 12:48:58 AM
i also felt they used too many of the same types of kills and a lot of them looked really fake
Yes, I noticed many kills involved doing something to the eyes of his victims--Gramps, Tina, Eddie, I feel like there's another one, but maybe that's it. I think it might be somewhat symbolic because Roy felt like he would be recognized. I've posted something similar before and someone else pointed out that Violet was also dancing to a song called "His Eyes". Oh yeah, and Jake's death-freaking horrible! Don't get me wrong, still love this movie mostly because of Ethel, Junior, and good 'ol Tommy Jarvis.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on February 10, 2012, 03:15:00 AM
Yea, how did Roy have an updated picture of Joey?
I think DHS probably came and took Joey out of the home because Roy was molesting him. Roy seems like a creepy molester, and that would explain why he carried a picture and knew where Joey was yet never came to see him or talked about his son. He had a no-contact order against him and he was covering it up to be able to keep his ambulance job because he really enjoyed getting nasty with the dead bodies. This was before sex offenders had to register, mind you. Roy and the other ambulance guy sure liked to "get their hands dirty". :jason5: :jason5: :jason5:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jet on February 11, 2012, 07:08:42 PM
Why was Joey living at the halfway house if Roy cared so much about his son that he would kill for him, fuck, talk about extreme, maybe he could start small and just come and visit him once in a while, maybe send a birthday card. The guy who actually killed Joey survived because he got arrested so Roy really didn't even get revenge.

I still like this film anyway even if the plot doesn't make much sense. It just wasn't a well thought out way to bring Jason back. Too many holes in the Joey/Roy plotline. If the holes were filled in and it made more sense, it would have been great. I do like the idea of a copycat killer .

Yeah, lol, you're right. Many, many holes in this plotline. Of course, when you have a porn director doing it, you can't expect Shakespeare.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on February 17, 2012, 01:22:37 PM
This is one of those things in the series that allow fans to fill in the blanks. Maybe Joey's mother died while giving birth and out of being heartbroken over his wife and scared shitless about raising a child all by himself, Roy decided to give the child up to the state feeling it was best for the child. Then when his son was murdered, he snapped.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on February 17, 2012, 01:42:16 PM
This is one of those things in the series that allow fans to fill in the blanks. Maybe Joey's mother died while giving birth and out of being heartbroken over his wife and scared shitless about raising a child all by himself, Roy decided to give the child up to the state feeling it was best for the child. Then when his son was murdered, he snapped.
That could very well be the case. Joey and him probably met too, but Roy didn't reveal that he was his father and that's how he got his picture. I still think Joey would be thinking "Uh oh stranger danger" if some old guy that just met him wanted his picture. If Joey actually knew Roy was his father, I think Joey would be calling him up and bugging him all the time, so that leads me to believe he didn't know, so in that case it's weird that he gave Roy a picture, especially being that he looks like a creepy perv. Maybe they were pen pals.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Kat on April 15, 2012, 09:51:34 AM
Its funny how elaborate Roy's undermask thing is. Like, he really thought about it and it fits him perfectly all on the back of the head and there is even a chunk of ear missing....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 15, 2012, 06:16:41 PM
Its funny how elaborate Roy's undermask thing is. Like, he really thought about it and it fits him perfectly all on the back of the head and there is even a chunk of ear missing....
Kinda makes you wonder if he followed serial killers.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on April 29, 2012, 10:25:32 AM
Why didn't Roy go after Vic? 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 29, 2012, 05:00:46 PM
Why didn't Roy go after Vic? 
Roy is a huge procrastinator. He was going to, but he never got around to it, now he's dead. Tragic.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 29, 2012, 05:34:18 PM
Why didn't Roy go after Vic? 
How do you propose he get around all the cops?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on May 05, 2012, 01:25:25 PM
How do you propose he get around all the cops?

Jason's never been scared of law enforcement before...Roy could just act all ambulance driver & take care of that shit.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on May 05, 2012, 10:12:47 PM
Jason's never been scared of law enforcement before...Roy could just act all ambulance driver & take care of that shit.
I think he'd be able to handle himself around the authorities. Nothing Ol' Roy can't handle! Roy can TCOB!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on May 06, 2012, 09:13:25 AM
I think he'd be able to handle himself around the authorities. Nothing Ol' Roy can't handle! Roy can TCOB!
But Tommy Jarvis does it better!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on May 06, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
But Tommy Jarvis does it better!!!!
Really Tommy just lucked out in this case. Roy was human and there just happened to be a harrow below for him to fall on. Pam and Reggie put up more of a fight in all actuality. Tommy just happened to be the one to hit him with the machete and he fell from the hayloft. He really didn't take care of him or kick his ass this time.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on May 06, 2012, 07:52:59 PM
Really Tommy just lucked out in this case. Roy was human and there just happened to be a harrow below for him to fall on. Pam and Reggie put up more of a fight in all actuality. Tommy just happened to be the one to hit him with the machete and he fell from the hayloft. He really didn't take care of him or kick his ass this time.
Well, given that idea, Pam and Reggie should have finished the guy off then!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on May 10, 2012, 05:47:47 PM
Well, given that idea, Pam and Reggie should have finished the guy off then!

You can't have the little black boy be the hero.  That is taboo in the series.  The black man is doomed to die.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: deadman909 on May 11, 2012, 08:21:34 AM
Hell, I like part 5 better than anything from part 8 on, excluding the remake... yes, I liked the reboot, I know I'm one of the few...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on May 11, 2012, 11:55:14 AM
Hell, I like part 5 better than anything from part 8 on, excluding the remake... yes, I liked the reboot, I know I'm one of the few...
You and me both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Regan/Pazuzu on May 28, 2012, 10:08:54 PM
i got my limited edition Friday 5 jacket from Frightrags in the mail today!

it's awesome  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 15, 2012, 04:21:19 PM
Really Tommy just lucked out in this case. Roy was human and there just happened to be a harrow below for him to fall on. Pam and Reggie put up more of a fight in all actuality. Tommy just happened to be the one to hit him with the machete and he fell from the hayloft. He really didn't take care of him or kick his ass this time.

what makes that funny to me is that tommy was like a fukin ninja in this one.. and when it comes time for him to use it properly.. he freezes up... but its kinda understanbale with his hallucionations and being traumatized ffrom the events in 4...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 16, 2012, 05:48:59 PM
what makes that funny to me is that tommy was like a fukin ninja in this one.. and when it comes time for him to use it properly.. he freezes up... but its kinda understanbale with his hallucionations and being traumatized ffrom the events in 4...?So where'd he learn to be a ninja?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 17, 2012, 09:54:24 AM
its a requirement to be released from the pshyc ward didnt you know that?! lol jk


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 17, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
its a requirement to be released from the pshyc ward didnt you know that?! lol jk
So we get mental patients with the capacity for violence.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 17, 2012, 03:41:38 PM
So we get mental patients with the capacity for violence.

well i was just messin around..but everyone has the capacity for violence...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 20, 2012, 07:29:11 PM
well i was just messin around..but everyone has the capacity for violence...
Gee ya think?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 22, 2012, 12:20:19 PM
Gee ya think?


LOL..  dude.. stop tryin to be a prick  :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 23, 2012, 06:03:15 PM

LOL..  dude.. stop tryin to be a prick  :)
Just stating the obvious.  So sue me.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 23, 2012, 09:05:14 PM
Just stating the obvious.  So sue me.

for a 44 year old you acting pretty immature...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on August 19, 2012, 05:24:30 PM
Quit bustin balls now ya hear?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: BJ Betty on August 19, 2012, 11:07:56 PM
Quit bustin balls now ya hear?

I love to bust balls!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on August 20, 2012, 06:20:58 PM
I love to bust balls!
That's what I hear. So the rumors are true, huh?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on August 20, 2012, 07:33:07 PM
That's what I hear. So the rumors are true, huh?
Aren't rumors usually true?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on August 21, 2012, 07:20:05 PM
Aren't rumors usually true?

Uh yeah..that's why we call them rumors.  I believe everything I see on Tv "It was real just like on TV" and everything I see on the internet.  I love coffee shop drama.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on August 22, 2012, 08:26:51 PM
Uh yeah..that's why we call them rumors.  I believe everything I see on Tv "It was real just like on TV" and everything I see on the internet.  I love coffee shop drama.
Don't forget tabloids, Nikki.  They're giant rumor mills.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on August 23, 2012, 06:51:20 PM
oh yeah and the tabloids...they have the best news.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on August 25, 2012, 07:58:35 PM
oh yeah and the tabloids...they have the best news.
Do you have any subscriptions?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on August 26, 2012, 03:10:49 PM
Yup i use xanex, prozac, quailudes by presciption...oh wait u said subsciptions...only to penthouse, hustler, playboy, midget love,esquire, usatoday, and a couple others to remain annoymous for sheer embarrasment


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on August 27, 2012, 05:15:44 PM
Yup i use xanex, prozac, quailudes by presciption...oh wait u said subsciptions...only to penthouse, hustler, playboy, midget love,esquire, usatoday, and a couple others to remain annoymous for sheer embarrasment
I certainly would not want you to embarass yourself! It's ok to keep certain things private ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on August 27, 2012, 08:04:33 PM
Thanks for understanding Nikki!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on August 28, 2012, 06:24:02 PM
I certainly would not want you to embarass yourself! It's ok to keep certain things private ;)
And please keep them that way!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on August 28, 2012, 09:06:52 PM
And please keep them that way!!!!!!!!!!!!

You don't want to hear about the time with the donkey??/


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on August 29, 2012, 06:32:06 PM
You don't want to hear about the time with the donkey??/
Most certainly not!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 15, 2012, 09:32:49 PM
IFC is showing A New Beginning tomorrow night! Everyone tune in because the movie is really great and I always think a Jason movie is a time for celebration no matter if they're in theatres, on dvd and blu ray or on tv.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on January 03, 2013, 01:43:32 PM
I don't like watching movies on TV. Especially Friday the 13th movies are no fun to watch on TV for me, because of commercials and censorship.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 03, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
I feel the same way !
Movies are usually highly edited for tv viewing , and they often take out the best parts . It's frustrating .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on January 03, 2013, 02:05:24 PM
A Friday the 13th movie on TV is like a slice of pizza without cheese and sause.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 03, 2013, 02:12:15 PM
You nailed it !

I don't like my movies watered down . Or the annoying commercials that interrupt the action .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on January 03, 2013, 05:10:50 PM
I feel the same way !
Movies are usually highly edited for tv viewing , and they often take out the best parts . It's frustrating .
I thi k they get their kicks off of the editing.  Maybe I'm being cynical.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 04, 2013, 09:40:21 PM
That's the good thing about IFC though. They don't censor and edit the movies much if at all. I was watching The Final Chapter on IFC and didn't see any censorship. They even say at the beginning that the movie hasnt been edited for time and content. Apways thrillls me to see that u know? Love seeing movies without having to worry about cursing and good stuff being taken out.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: scabboy on January 12, 2013, 03:45:51 PM
While this movie is nothing amazing, I don't see why people can't accept an impostor. For the most part, every kill is Jason-esque and since you never see the identity of the killer it is easily accepted as.

I love the staunch humor of the film and the bad vibe. I love movies like this. In reality, none of the F13th movies are great movies, but for what they are they work for us. I personally think A New Beginning is far better than anything after it (in the Paramount\New Line series).

It's a pretty nasty, brutal movie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 12, 2013, 05:10:56 PM
I like pt 5 for what it is . For me , it's actually a pretty solid entry in the series .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on January 15, 2013, 12:47:14 PM
I have always thought that these were great movies. When you compare Friday the 13th to most other slasher films, they are very well made films.

I think Friday 5 was a great movie. I also loved the humor, the characters, the body count, the tits, the music, the story, and pretty much everything about it. I really liked the mask with the blue marks on it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 15, 2013, 01:11:48 PM
You summed up pt 5 very well !
I don't get the hate from a lot of folks ? It was a good entry .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on January 15, 2013, 01:18:12 PM
Whenever I hear the standard, "Friday 5 sucks because no Jason or Halloween 3 sucks because no Michael" I always quote Ethel, and say, "Will you shut, the fuck, up!?"  ;D 8) :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 15, 2013, 01:21:44 PM
I know what you mean ! Those are still good films .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JDW89 on January 22, 2013, 01:46:06 AM
Watching this one for the first time in a long while!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 22, 2013, 01:50:45 AM
I watched it the other night as well . It still holds up as a fun entry in the series .
There is a good mix of things that come off well - humor , campy attitude , some neat kills and a twist to the ending ...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 22, 2013, 03:21:58 AM

I like part 5 because its so explosive and doesn't care to show it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 24, 2013, 09:29:28 PM
I think I said it before but I enjoyed it because I like horror and mystery mixed together.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 24, 2013, 09:54:58 PM

I wish the film would've had some more scenes with the head guy of that counselor center though. I thought he would've been one of the more prominent characters.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 26, 2013, 06:48:27 PM
Yeah he was good. I really think with such a short amount of time for the films that character development sometimes gets lost. Hope with the next one we get a little more character development. I loved Pt 4 because we got so much of that u know?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 26, 2013, 07:37:19 PM

Yeah, part IV had some really good character relationships that were brought out even better by some really good performances. Of course Ted and Jimbo being the best from that movie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 27, 2013, 03:13:17 PM
I wish the film would've had some more scenes with the head guy of that counselor center though. I thought he would've been one of the more prominent characters.
I kind of thought that he was going to be a survivor in the movie . He reminded me a bit of Paul from pt 2 .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 27, 2013, 03:28:43 PM

How did he die again? It was an offscreen death wasn't it?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 27, 2013, 03:32:41 PM
How did he die again? It was an offscreen death wasn't it?
Yeah it was off screen . I can't recall how he died though ?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 27, 2013, 08:11:18 PM

I just watched it and he's been impaled through the head by a large nail to a tree.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 27, 2013, 08:27:24 PM
Right on , thanks !
I put that on late a few nights ago but fell asleep before it was 2/3 over ...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 27, 2013, 09:43:11 PM
Right on , thanks !
I put that on late a few nights ago but fell asleep before it was 2/3 over ...

LOL! That movie does have its boring parts. I mean as much as I like Demon, that was a pretty pointless scene that had nothing to do with the movie. I think they should've stayed at the counseling center more.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 27, 2013, 10:41:26 PM
LOL! That movie does have its boring parts. I mean as much as I like Demon, that was a pretty pointless scene that had nothing to do with the movie. I think they should've stayed at the counseling center more.
Ha , i didn't mean it that way !
I had a long afternoon at work and nestled up with a few brewskies before putting pt 5 on ...

The Demon scene wasn't crucial to the plot , but there's countless moments like that in horror history !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 27, 2013, 11:26:43 PM

Oh, I thought you got bored there. Must have been the beer going to your head.  ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on January 28, 2013, 03:22:36 PM
Demon being Reggie's brother made him have more of a point to be in the movie then the Greece lightening guys. But hey, at the end of the day, you don't always need to reason to be in one of these kind of movies besides getting killed.  :jason5:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 28, 2013, 04:13:28 PM
Demon being Reggie's brother made him have more of a point to be in the movie then the Greece lightening guys. But hey, at the end of the day, you don't always need to reason to be in one of these kind of movies besides getting killed.  :jason5:

Oh, yeah I forgot about those guys. They were the most pointless.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on January 28, 2013, 07:29:20 PM
I think, like with the Demon scenes, they're just trying a little too hard with the character development. (Reggies, in this case.)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 28, 2013, 07:42:16 PM
I think they should've made Reggis's grandfather a more prominent character too. I liked him but there weren't enough scenes with him to really get know him. Personally, I think the whole movie should've just stayed at the counseling center. Well, the scenes with Edna and Junior could've been kept but go out and seeing all these other people was pretty pointless.

That being said I do like Demon and his death. :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on January 28, 2013, 07:45:13 PM
I think they should've made Reggis's grandfather a more prominent character too. I liked him but there weren't enough scenes with him to really get know him. Personally, I think the whole movie should've just stayed at the counseling center. Well, the scenes with Edna and Junior could've been kept but go out and seeing all these other people was pretty pointless.

That being said I do like Demon and his death. :)

The grandfather was wonderful. :)

I wouldnt have minded MORE Edna/Junior scenes...  :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 28, 2013, 07:48:36 PM

Did the sweet grandfather have a name? I can't recall it if he did. I just remember Reggis calling him Gramps. But yeah he seemed like the sweet grandfather type. Do bad he got his eyes ripped out and thrown through a window.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on January 28, 2013, 07:51:09 PM
Did the sweet grandfather have a name? I can't recall it if he did. I just remember Reggis calling him Gramps. But yeah he seemed like the sweet grandfather type. Do bad he got his eyes ripped out and thrown through a window.

I don't think so...I think he was just "Gramps." It would have been cool if he went all bad ass at the end and was the "final" ...erm...one.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 28, 2013, 07:53:53 PM

Yeah, that would've been cool if he pulled a Ali from part 3 and tried to stop Roy. I mean if Ali can survive a wrench to the head and I don't why Gramps can't survive two gouged out eyes and being thrown through a window.  :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on January 28, 2013, 07:56:04 PM
I don't why Gramps can't survive two gouged out eyes and being thrown through a window.  :P

Stroll over to Higgens Haven and ask Rick. ;)



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 28, 2013, 07:57:26 PM
Good point. LOL! Or Rob.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on January 28, 2013, 07:59:42 PM
Good point. LOL! Or Rob.

We won't be happy till we've taken over every board and changed the topic to a totally different movie. :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 28, 2013, 08:02:57 PM
 
Well at least we stayed in the same franchise this time. haha ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on January 28, 2013, 08:04:58 PM

Well at least we stayed in the same franchise this time. haha ;)

See ya at Banned Camp!! :D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 28, 2013, 08:10:29 PM
See ya at Banned Camp!! :D

You know this one time at Banned camp...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on January 28, 2013, 08:14:48 PM
You know this one time at Banned camp...

Now we're not even discussing horror movies, just goofy comedies. Our work here is done.  :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 28, 2013, 08:16:53 PM

 ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: redsturn on January 28, 2013, 10:03:27 PM
Thanks to FT13V I got to meet Danny Steinmann and have him inspire the Savage Streets reunion we had on Friday April 13, 2012! Not only did I get to meet Bob DeSimone(who is both films) but I got to perform with him and Savage Streets co-star Mitch Carter(The Reverend and the Doctor)!! I now represent Robert Dryer, Scott Mayer, Sal Landi, and a whole host of Savage Streets stars that are now doing the horror-con circuit!

Love this movie and what it has done for my life!  :jason5:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 29, 2013, 05:05:08 PM
We won't be happy till we've taken over every board and changed the topic to a totally different movie. :)
What are you two talking about ?
I don't get the joke ...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on January 29, 2013, 05:27:53 PM
What are you two talking about ?
I don't get the joke ...

We changed the entire topic of the Jason takes Manhatten main thread to Halloween 6, then we kinda of changed this one around. All in the same night. Not on purpose. Cuz we're awesome and that's how we roll.  8)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 29, 2013, 05:53:51 PM
We changed the entire topic of the Jason takes Manhatten main thread to Halloween 6, then we kinda of changed this one around. All in the same night. Not on purpose. Cuz we're awesome and that's how we roll.  8)
Nice !
Carry on ...  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Joe Karlosi on February 17, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
I like it! So Jason is not the killer......so what? He wasn't the killer in Part 1 either but, people don't complain about that.

That's because at the time of Part 1's release in 1980, there WAS no Jason yet. (That, and the fact that the first F13 is just a better-made movie all around). By the time we got to A NEW BEGINNING we already got  very used to Jason. There's a lot wrong with PART 5 beyond not featuring Jason though (see my next post)...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Joe Karlosi on February 17, 2013, 12:09:53 PM
I absolutely hated PART 5 when I first saw it in the theater. It was a lame rip-off, desperately trying to concoct any dumb excuse to continue the franchise. Most of us diehard fans felt cheated, and some of us still do. You don't just stick a hockey mask on any character nearby and say "that's Jason".

But I've been revisiting all the movies chronologically lately, and when I got to PART 5 there was way more wrong with it than just the killer being an impostor. Also, the kids are the most uninteresting and under-written of the entire lot up to this point. The movie feels very choppy because of the cuts by the MPAA. And the kill sequences are really lacking, they seem too quick and blood-less, all trimmed down. Many of the kills are more suggestive than we usually expect from a F13 movie.

The character of Tommy in PART 5 is bland and boring. (He gets much better in Part 6). Granted, I understand he's been through a rough trauma -- so it's understandable why he is so quiet and withdrawn -- but it doesn't exactly make for good movie watching. Plus, the dialogue is more silly than usual, with "Ma" and "Junior".

A NEW BEGINNING remains the worst of the first 8 F13 films for me.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 03, 2013, 10:34:20 PM
I don't think that pt 5 was the worst in the series . That's just me .

Joe makes a semi good point about Tommy being bland in this movie , I'll agree that his character was much better in pt 6 .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on March 04, 2013, 06:15:16 PM
I don't think that pt 5 was the worst in the series . That's just me .

Joe makes a semi good point about Tommy being bland in this movie , I'll agree that his character was much better in pt 6 .
Would continuity have helped with the character of Tommy?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 04, 2013, 06:19:45 PM
Would continuity have helped with the character of Tommy?
I don't think so . At least in pt 5 .
We went from a young Tommy to an adult Tommy in the course of one movie .
Continuity wasn't a consideration .

Tommy in pt 5 had some memorable scenes , but overall he fell a bit flat IMO.
Tommy in pt 6 was much more well rounded as a character . His scenes were better .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on March 04, 2013, 10:00:39 PM
In part 6 he's hotter. Did something else matter?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 05, 2013, 02:26:53 AM
You can have your hot Tommy in pt 6 .
I'll take Meagan in a heartbeat ...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on March 05, 2013, 06:54:19 AM
Megans hot too.  :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stan Below on March 05, 2013, 08:45:03 AM
Desent film. Not nearly that good, as first 4 parts, but I enjoy it.  ::)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Marie on March 05, 2013, 09:45:27 AM
Desent film. Not nearly that good, as first 4 parts, but I enjoy it.  ::)

Yup. ^

It's growing on me.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on March 05, 2013, 01:14:52 PM
I don't think so . At least in pt 5 .
We went from a young Tommy to an adult Tommy in the course of one movie .
Continuity wasn't a consideration .

Tommy in pt 5 had some memorable scenes , but overall he fell a bit flat IMO.
Tommy in pt 6 was much more well rounded as a character . His scenes were better .

Tommy was definitely a different and better character in Part 6. He was the lead in that one.

I really liked Part 5 though. I loved the music, the mask, and the characters more then anything else. Also, the story line was kind of a kick back to the original film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 05, 2013, 03:10:10 PM
Megans hot too.  :)
She's my 2nd fav behind Amy Steel for most of the series , right up until Jason X and the remake .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on March 09, 2013, 06:58:53 PM
In part 6 he's hotter. Did something else matter?
Plot line maybe?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on March 09, 2013, 06:59:22 PM
Megans hot too.  :)
What are you saying here????


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: HigginsHaven on March 22, 2013, 01:10:29 AM
To me, Part 5 is the last of the series to have that classic F13th "camp" vibe to it. I rank it up there with the best of the series. Love how bizarre this one is!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 22, 2013, 03:12:52 PM
To me, Part 5 is the last of the series to have that classic F13th "camp" vibe to it. I rank it up there with the best of the series. Love how bizarre this one is!
Me too !
Pt 5 is the last of the original camp movies . Some people say it ended with pt 4 , but i'll include the fifth installment as well .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasn88cubs on March 23, 2013, 07:47:31 PM
To me, Part 5 is the last of the series to have that classic F13th "camp" vibe to it. I rank it up there with the best of the series. Love how bizarre this one is!

agree. the 6th movie i like but thats when it seems to become to far fetched. hard to explain, but it just felt lazy. like idk..the "comedy" parts and all that..just didn't do much for me. it seemed like instead of contuining the story they just did it for money


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on March 23, 2013, 07:53:30 PM
agree. the 6th movie i like but thats when it seems to become to far fetched. hard to explain, but it just felt lazy. like idk..the "comedy" parts and all that..just didn't do much for me. it seemed like instead of contuining the story they just did it for money
I don't feel like part 6 is a hooker!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 30, 2013, 02:46:41 PM
agree. the 6th movie i like but thats when it seems to become to far fetched. hard to explain, but it just felt lazy. like idk..the "comedy" parts and all that..just didn't do much for me. it seemed like instead of contuining the story they just did it for money
After the success of the original , all these movies were made for $ and profit .
They simply ran out of ideas after pt 5 and had to take the series , and Jason , in a new direction .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 09, 2013, 07:40:18 PM
But that's why everyone does anything is money. We are all driven by the almighty dollar! Filmmakers make movies to make a buck just like hookers pedal their wares down the street. Unless you're a volunteer, no one does anything out of the goodness of their heart. We're all driven by greed.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ramse on April 09, 2013, 07:41:57 PM
Greed is the new religion.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 10, 2013, 12:35:41 AM
But that's why everyone does anything is money. We are all driven by the almighty dollar! Filmmakers make movies to make a buck just like hookers pedal their wares down the street. Unless you're a volunteer, no one does anything out of the goodness of their heart. We're all driven by greed.
Very true .
$$$ makes the world go around ...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 10, 2013, 12:38:11 AM
Very true .
$$$ makes the world go around ...
Yes money and sex. Forgot to mention that one.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 10, 2013, 02:58:16 AM
But that's why everyone does anything is money. We are all driven by the almighty dollar! Filmmakers make movies to make a buck just like hookers pedal their wares down the street. Unless you're a volunteer, no one does anything out of the goodness of their heart. We're all driven by greed.

I don't know about that one. Some of us are simply driven to pay the rent and buy groceries.  ;D

It is easy to forget when we get in our anti-economy conversations like this one, money is something you need to live. You can not live without it. That is the way the system is built.

Of course there are greedy people out there, but the fact is, we all need money to survive.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 10, 2013, 11:17:09 AM
Rich, you have made some very valid points. I will agree with most of them. Money can, however, cause people to do things they wouldn't do otherwise. We all have a price. You see, and sometimes I go off on rants because I'm pissed off or bitter about something most likely completely unrelated.

Back on topic. Part 5 rules!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasn88cubs on April 10, 2013, 10:16:46 PM
even though part 6 came out in 86 when i watch it now for some reason it has more of an early 90s feel to it than a 80s feel to it

at least i think so

i posted thison the wrong one ugh


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 10, 2013, 11:34:39 PM
Yes money and sex. Forgot to mention that one.
I like your style !!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 12, 2013, 01:25:11 PM
I can see why one might think that Jason Lives has a 90s feel to it. I think it definitely has a late 80s [MAYBE] early 90s feel to it. It has the hard rock music and Cort with the holes in the knees of the jeans. That is totally of it's time.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on April 14, 2013, 04:16:02 PM
No we got to see Tommy's sweet make out moves on Megan.  Kisses like a fucking fish.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 14, 2013, 05:46:16 PM
No we got to see Tommy's sweet make out moves on Megan.  Kisses like a fucking fish.
If that was me ?
I'd be trying to mess up the scene , and get a bunch of re-takes !!!

Meagan = yummy :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: aurllcooljay on April 14, 2013, 09:54:19 PM
Greed is the new religion.
There's nothing new about greed; it's existed even before money did. but I get your point. Money is, after all, the root of all evil.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Gash on April 14, 2013, 11:44:52 PM
The love of money is the root of all evil.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ramse on April 15, 2013, 07:46:10 AM
Absolute true!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 16, 2013, 06:50:22 PM
I can see why one might think that Jason Lives has a 90s feel to it. I think it definitely has a late 80s [MAYBE] early 90s feel to it. It has the hard rock music and Cort with the holes in the knees of the jeans. That is totally of it's time.
Cort's mama didn't even own a sewing machine!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 22, 2013, 03:06:49 PM
I wonder what would have happened if Shelley from Part 3 and Joey from Part 5 ever met.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 23, 2013, 09:54:15 PM
I wonder what would have happened if Shelley from Part 3 and Joey from Part 5 ever met.
They would have eaten a shitload of chocolate bars!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 24, 2013, 05:59:00 PM
They would have eaten a shitload of chocolate bars!
Classic !!!
LOL


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on April 28, 2013, 01:06:40 PM
They would have eaten a shitload of chocolate bars!

But would it lead to a death in the shitbox?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 28, 2013, 10:52:54 PM
But would it lead to a death in the shitbox?
Possibly, but we would never know.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 21, 2013, 01:38:49 PM
Shelley and Joey have both eaten five chocolate bars. They both are feeling their stomach rumble. Joey decides to leave the cabin to go to the shit box. Suddenly, there is something in the woods that made a cracking sound. Joey quickly turns around to see what it was. There was nothing there. He continues his stroll to the shit box, and he hears a sound again. This time it sounded closer. Joey turns around to see what it was and once again there was nothing there. Suddenly from out of nowhere all he sees is a while mask with a bunch of holes in it, the two biggest holes are the ones with the eyes, which are all black like shadows. Joey was staring into the very eyes of death. He has never been so terrified in his life. He began to turn around and run. As he ran he had the feeling of his legs moving as fast as they can, but him not budging an inch, which is a common nightmare he would have from time to time. He ran as fast as he can and suddenly, as a result of chocolate bars and fear, he felt his waste just poor out of his ass and into his pants, which just got heavy and very uncomfortable. Suddenly, the white mask was lifted off of the face to reveal a laughing Shelley. He remarked "A fat guy like you should never go out in the dark alone!" Then he thought about that statement for a moment, and decided to go into the shit box himself. Suddenly, the shit box started to shake repeatedly. Shelley thought it was Joey messing around, so, when he was done, he opened the door to the shit box. Suddenly an arrow piercing the the wind as it passes through just went straight into Shelley's left eyeball and out the back of his head. The white mask was taken and red pinkish ooze was leaking out of the back of Shelley's head in the shit box. Joey changed his clothes and cleaned himself off and decided to put on the TV. All of a sudden, the electricity went out. Joey, thinking it was Shelley messing with him, decided to go outside to the circit box to put the power back on. All of a sudden, a very powerful hand grabs Joey by the back of the head and rams him face first into the circit board with electricity volts frying Joey to death. About twenty minutes later Roy gets home with the pizzas and some soda to find Shelley dead in the shit box and his very own Joey hanging from a tree, with his face completely burnt. As tears start to run down Roy's face, he sees that whoever did this evil deed left something behind. Laying on the ground underneath where poor Joey hangs is a white mask with holes strategically placed in perfect patterns all over it, with blue markings on it...

HOLY HEARTBREAK, Jason! Roy is now your sidekick!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on May 25, 2013, 09:48:05 PM
Possibly, but we would never know.
I think they'd meet at a candy store and eat until they got booted out.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on May 27, 2013, 01:21:53 AM
Shelley and Joey have both eaten five chocolate bars. They both are feeling their stomach rumble. Joey decides to leave the cabin to go to the shit box. Suddenly, there is something in the woods that made a cracking sound. Joey quickly turns around to see what it was. There was nothing there. He continues his stroll to the shit box, and he hears a sound again. This time it sounded closer. Joey turns around to see what it was and once again there was nothing there. Suddenly from out of nowhere all he sees is a while mask with a bunch of holes in it, the two biggest holes are the ones with the eyes, which are all black like shadows. Joey was staring into the very eyes of death. He has never been so terrified in his life. He began to turn around and run. As he ran he had the feeling of his legs moving as fast as they can, but him not budging an inch, which is a common nightmare he would have from time to time. He ran as fast as he can and suddenly, as a result of chocolate bars and fear, he felt his waste just poor out of his ass and into his pants, which just got heavy and very uncomfortable. Suddenly, the white mask was lifted off of the face to reveal a laughing Shelley. He remarked "A fat guy like you should never go out in the dark alone!" Then he thought about that statement for a moment, and decided to go into the shit box himself. Suddenly, the shit box started to shake repeatedly. Shelley thought it was Joey messing around, so, when he was done, he opened the door to the shit box. Suddenly an arrow piercing the the wind as it passes through just went straight into Shelley's left eyeball and out the back of his head. The white mask was taken and red pinkish ooze was leaking out of the back of Shelley's head in the shit box. Joey changed his clothes and cleaned himself off and decided to put on the TV. All of a sudden, the electricity went out. Joey, thinking it was Shelley messing with him, decided to go outside to the circit box to put the power back on. All of a sudden, a very powerful hand grabs Joey by the back of the head and rams him face first into the circit board with electricity volts frying Joey to death. About twenty minutes later Roy gets home with the pizzas and some soda to find Shelley dead in the shit box and his very own Joey hanging from a tree, with his face completely burnt. As tears start to run down Roy's face, he sees that whoever did this evil deed left something behind. Laying on the ground underneath where poor Joey hangs is a white mask with holes strategically placed in perfect patterns all over it, with blue markings on it...

HOLY HEARTBREAK, Jason! Roy is now your sidekick!
That is a wonderful story! I really like your incorporation of the shitbox into the story making it a focus point. I think the story would be perfected if Roy came home from his second job at his taco stand and was bringing home leftover enchiladas and tamales (instead of pizza). I know, very small change, but will help tie Demon's character into the story and make it more credible.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on May 27, 2013, 12:12:46 PM
I agree good story!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JasonV on July 03, 2013, 03:50:08 PM
One thing I think we can all agree on, is that the lack of character development hurt this one more than any of the others in the series. I think in most of the movies I've wanted to know more about at least one character, but this has a handful of teens that have had a tough life in one way or another and we only really know about Tommy and Joey's past.

A small amount of time to make these movies and changing directors hurt the continuity that most of us wish we got, and censorship in the U.S & here in the U.K took away one the most anticipated parts of any slasher movie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on July 07, 2013, 11:43:34 AM
One thing I think we can all agree on, is that the lack of character development hurt this one more than any of the others in the series. I think in most of the movies I've wanted to know more about at least one character, but this has a handful of teens that have had a tough life in one way or another and we only really know about Tommy and Joey's past.

A small amount of time to make these movies and changing directors hurt the continuity that most of us wish we got, and censorship in the U.S & here in the U.K took away one the most anticipated parts of any slasher movie.

Yeah I kinda wonder how some of those fuckers ended up at pinehurst.  Quite the mix if u ask me.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JimBeef on August 11, 2013, 01:47:28 PM
his mask is totally different.

The mask had blue markings instead of red.  Other than that, it was the same mask.  Now, if Roy had worn the mask from the VHS cover for part 5, then a claim could be made that it was a different mask.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: nyg10 on August 21, 2013, 01:52:54 PM
I think it was really ballsy to actually kill of Jason and have Tommy slip into his place, and also that it made perfect sense. Money always talks though and creative integrity walks so they never followed through on it. I enjoyed the movies after this one and especially 6, but I was only enjoying them in the sense that they were entertaining. They were no longer scary. Scares died with this one and I would have loved to have seen where the series would have gone without Jason.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Cropsey on November 12, 2013, 04:36:49 PM
When I first discovered the franchise, I stumbled upon the ending of Part 3. I saw Jason lift his mask up and was curious to see what he looked like in all of his other movies. At the time, only JGTH was the latest.

I had a marathon one night when I finally persuaded my parents to let me rent all of them on VHS.

Of course, I was disgusted to find out that Jason wasn't Jason, but an imposter. And immediately made this my least liked Friday.

But after several viewings over the years, this one's really grown on me. I love pretty much all the kills. And the dark humor is hilarious. The silly characters and hammy acting makes this one a guilty pleasure of mine. Seriously though. The kills in this are superb. I particularly like the motorcycle beheading and the portapotty kill.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JasonDestroy on November 12, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
 :jason7:  Joey would get mad thinking Shelly is making fun of him with one his little pranks.  He would tell Shelly he's really out of line and that he could forget about having a chocolate bar.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on November 22, 2013, 01:47:12 PM
:jason7:  Joey would get mad thinking Shelly is making fun of him with one his little pranks.  He would tell Shelly he's really out of line and that he could forget about having a chocolate bar.

Shelley: Oh come on Joey, I didn't mean it. I just wanted you to like me.

Joey: I...DO...like...you...But not when you are acting like a jerk while I'm eating my chocolate bar!

Shelley: Being a jerk...while you are eating a chocolate bar...is better then being a jerk while you are eating nothing!

Joey: I never said I am ever eating NOTHING.

Shelley: You don't have to SAY it...I can TELL...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 22, 2013, 09:44:02 PM
LOL rich.. love it.. i can hear the two of them havin that convo


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 01:05:30 AM
That is hilarious because as a kid and seeing bits and pieces of this and part 3 edited by the way lol on tv I thought shelly and joey were the same guy.  :jason3:     :jason5:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 23, 2013, 11:20:33 AM
lol gash.. thats awesome.... they look like they could be bros even haha


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JasonDestroy on November 23, 2013, 02:31:49 PM
 :jason7: Wonder if Roy is the father of both of them.  When Joey showed that he was special, Roy kicked him to the curb.  After Shelly died, Roy only had Joey and flipped his lid when he was killed.

Or it was actually b/c the chocolate bar was wasted.  That might of been the real reason Roy went nuts.  Roy loves the chocolate bars.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on November 28, 2013, 01:02:20 PM
That is hilarious because as a kid and seeing bits and pieces of this and part 3 edited by the way lol on tv I thought shelly and joey were the same guy.  :jason3:     :jason5:
That IS pretty funny !



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: BJ Betty on February 10, 2014, 08:07:27 PM
I am hard pressed to understand why anyone would not like this movie. Sure it doesn't feature Jason in it, but it is difficult to continue a franchise after the main character is killed off. Technically, this entry could have been eliminated from the series and just pick up with part 6, which is yet another way to bring the series back to life, in my opinion. But part 5 was just so enjoyable and took things in another direction. Sure, the whodunit idea would have only worked once, but it was an idea and gave the fans something they craved, another film. It would have been nice to get more of an explanation of what happened to Trish though. She appeared to be stable at the end of part 4, highly unlikely that she died.

It would have been a cool scene to see Tommy try to call his sister from Pinehurst and maybe have her tell him that he needed to move on with his life and try to recover from all the drama that Jason Voorhees inflicted upon their family. That's how I see it, that Trish just moved on with her life and was doing much better at dealing with the traumatic experience than Tommy was. My biggest complaint about this film is the implication that she died when they did that lingering shot of Tommy looking at the photo of his family.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: DUKE1 on February 10, 2014, 11:41:34 PM
Betty I kinda see it a bit different, I would have liked to see something along the lines of Pam telling him phone call its your sister and tommy just leaving room.
move into something along lines of tommy telling Matt she cant help me...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: BJ Betty on February 11, 2014, 04:26:25 PM
Duke, I would find that acceptable as well. Just would have been nice to get some sort of sense that Trish was alive and doing well.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jasn88cubs on February 18, 2014, 07:35:15 PM
so vic what would you do for a klondike bar?

kill joey!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Harvey on June 08, 2014, 01:12:16 AM
so vic what would you do for a klondike bar?

kill joey!

Yeah, he would, but I'm sure he wouldn't eat it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 13, 2014, 11:50:53 AM
I find it ironic that Ethel Hubbard and son are crazier than the crazies at the crazy house...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ishy on June 13, 2014, 11:34:03 PM
Just watched it and it fell flat for me. Not because Jason wasn't in, the plot was weak, 80% of the characters had mental issues, the main heroine was annoying, the people I was rooting for died and Tommy effing Jarvis. If he was cut from the movie, it'd have been already a lot better. I can't stand him and I hate him even more after watching this movie. I'd pay to see a movie where Jason actually kills him.

The only goof thing is the insert song and Reggie. That boy was awesome and actually had some balls, compared to the other peers...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 13, 2014, 11:48:25 PM
Just watched it and it fell flat for me. Not because Jason wasn't in, the plot was weak, 80% of the characters had mental issues, the main heroine was annoying, the people I was rooting for died and Tommy effing Jarvis. If he was cut from the movie, it'd have been already a lot better. I can't stand him and I hate him even more after watching this movie. I'd pay to see a movie where Jason actually kills him.

The only goof thing is the insert song and Reggie. That boy was awesome and actually had some balls, compared to the other peers...

Which Friday's have you seen so far? Part 5 in my opinion is a cheap rip off of the original 4. While it is the last to have the feel of the 1st 4, it still falls short.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ishy on June 14, 2014, 04:24:02 AM
Which Friday's have you seen so far? Part 5 in my opinion is a cheap rip off of the original 4. While it is the last to have the feel of the 1st 4, it still falls short.
All of them besides JGTH which I plan on watching soon. It does have the feel of the first 4 and that's probably why I sat through the entire movie. But imho the whole concept is rushed. They wanted to make money and they didn't try hard enough.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on June 26, 2014, 02:13:08 PM
You can not call any one individual sequel a rip off without calling all of them rip offs.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Body Boy on June 26, 2014, 04:15:15 PM
You can not call any one individual sequel a rip off without calling all of them rip offs.

Yeah, not really sure how someone can call Part V a cheap rip-off of the first four when it is in the same series, or not acknowledge Part 3 is a cheap rip-off of 1 and 2. lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 26, 2014, 04:40:04 PM
Yeah, not really sure how someone can call Part V a cheap rip-off of the first four when it is in the same series, or not acknowledge Part 3 is a cheap rip-off of 1 and 2. lol

Easy, if certain things work for one movie, you can expand on them and try to make it better in the next entry. Did that happen in part 5? Ill answer that for you...no. Part 5 took some of the things that worked in previous entries and exploited them in a cheap way, and I don't mean budget cheap. For example, 5 had tons of nudity and kills just for the sake of having tons of nudity and kills. There was what... four or five random people in this movie killed that had nothing to do with the plot.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JasonDestroy on June 26, 2014, 08:20:19 PM
Easy, if certain things work for one movie, you can expand on them and try to make it better in the next entry. Did that happen in part 5? Ill answer that for you...no. Part 5 took some of the things that worked in previous entries and exploited them in a cheap way, and I don't mean budget cheap. For example, 5 had tons of nudity and kills just for the sake of having tons of nudity and kills. There was what... four or five random people in this movie killed that had nothing to do with the plot.
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People love this film for the exploitative feel it has.  At least, that's why I love it.  I don't care about nudity and such, but this film has such a exploitive tone to it that it's just fun to watch.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 26, 2014, 08:28:08 PM
Pt 5 is an unsettling ride for a lot of people . That's neither here nor there - everyone can decide for themselves if they like it . The movie had just enough of the classic F13th vibe for me . Any more to the left and I might not have liked it ... Is it even in my top 6 or 7 films from the franchise ? No it isn't . However I don't hate it , and don't even mind it . It's all about the context for me .

I view it as a spinoff almost . One that has some very familiar elements to it . There were a few fun moments in there , much like every other F13th movie .



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JasonDestroy on June 26, 2014, 08:41:25 PM
It's cool if people don't like it.  It's one of my favorites in the series because it's just fun to watch.  Back when it was released people didn't like it for the reason that JV wasn't the killer.  When I was a kid I liked the movie the first time I saw it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 26, 2014, 08:57:37 PM
I didn't say I didn't like, just saying its a cheap rip off of the first 4 films


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on June 28, 2014, 01:00:43 PM
With all due respect, I just can not agree with Part V being a rip off of the first four film. It had the parent avenging the death of a child plot from the original, with a hockey masked killer. It also upped the body count and the nudity. In a way, it is the absolute perfect representation of the 80s slasher film. It also had really good production value.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 29, 2014, 01:11:32 AM
With all due respect, I just can not agree with Part V being a rip off of the first four film. It had the parent avenging the death of a child plot from the original, with a hockey masked killer. It also upped the body count and the nudity. In a way, it is the absolute perfect representation of the 80s slasher film. It also had really good production value.

Just like you said, the plot was like the original, meaning its been done before within its own franchise but cheap like. Roy abandoned his kid so why would he give a shit if he was killed 17 years later. If he took care of his kid he wouldnt have been mureded in the nut house.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 29, 2014, 01:21:26 AM
Just like you said, the plot was like the original, meaning its been done before within its own franchise but cheap like. Roy abandoned his kid so why would he give a shit if he was killed 17 years later. If he took care of his kid he wouldnt have been mureded in the nut house.
I have to applaud and agree with this . Never thought about that 'angle' before ...
Good call , Killer-C :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ishy on June 29, 2014, 02:01:34 AM
Just like you said, the plot was like the original, meaning its been done before within its own franchise but cheap like. Roy abandoned his kid so why would he give a shit if he was killed 17 years later. If he took care of his kid he wouldnt have been mureded in the nut house.
that's what always bothered the crap outta me. I don't get how Roy snaps because they killed his son who never really tasted father's love. It's just... Ugh.

And I must agree that part V feels kinda cheap. I'm sorry, bot nothing tops Pamela & Jason story and anything that tries to take the piece of it, is just meh. You can't make a new story, including 80% of the ideas from the earlier installments and call it 'a new beginning'. Even if it still has 'the classic feel', it's basically ripping on the previous films and it's just there to make money.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: mike on June 29, 2014, 12:16:07 PM
Roy had a lot of mental issues.  anything is possible.  great idea to have someone pretending to be jason voorhees.  why not?  part 5 rocks.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on August 31, 2014, 01:10:29 PM
Just like you said, the plot was like the original, meaning its been done before within its own franchise but cheap like. Roy abandoned his kid so why would he give a shit if he was killed 17 years later. If he took care of his kid he wouldnt have been mureded in the nut house.

I think we can say "it's been done before" pertaining to all of the sequels. The formula is part of the iconography of the slasher genre. It is a "it's been done before" franchise.

Well, since the father was very close to him, he might have truly been watching over him his entire life, but he maybe just did not think of himself as a good parent (untold story there?) so he decided to give him up to adoption. It makes sense. Think, where is his mother? Perhaps his mother died during birth and Roy decided to do what he thought was right for the child and give him up to adoption, thinking he  may not have been qualified to be a single parent. But he obviously stayed close enough to his son to watch over him. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: aurllcooljay on August 31, 2014, 09:34:28 PM
He probably also paid child support. How else do you think Joey had all those candy bars?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 31, 2014, 10:50:18 PM
what always gets me is that roy had a full grown pic of joey


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on September 01, 2014, 12:41:17 AM
I think we can say "it's been done before" pertaining to all of the sequels. The formula is part of the iconography of the slasher genre. It is a "it's been done before" franchise.

Well, since the father was very close to him, he might have truly been watching over him his entire life, but he maybe just did not think of himself as a good parent (untold story there?) so he decided to give him up to adoption. It makes sense. Think, where is his mother? Perhaps his mother died during birth and Roy decided to do what he thought was right for the child and give him up to adoption, thinking he  may not have been qualified to be a single parent. But he obviously stayed close enough to his son to watch over him. 

I think it was mentioned that the mother passed away and the father took off, not a 100 percent on that but i think thats the gist of it. I also thought it was mentioned that he had moved around a lot as an orphan. Either way the guy sucked as a father as the kid had no family in his life. The only time he looked over him was when he was standing over his dead body.

You're generalizing on the" its been done" before slasher stereo type. This is a direct rip off of part one. But fails because the revenge motive doesn't work when you don't even know your son, when you should of and could of. Just because you can't take care of a child on your own doesn't mean you shouldn't have any type of relationship with him at all...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jessica on October 07, 2014, 01:26:10 AM
what always gets me is that roy had a full grown pic of joey


LOL. Yeah, they could have at least had him riffle through a couple younger shots first! Throw us a boooone here.

What's the deal with the neon sign hypnotizing Tommy? Or whatever the heck that was.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 07, 2014, 09:52:57 PM
haha.. yeah it was almost like he put himself into a ninja trance..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: DUKE1 on October 09, 2014, 11:59:45 AM
What did they say in the beginning his brain is fried.  Guess the neon flashing lights our pretty and he was enjoying the light show thinking of pink Floyds "careful with that axe, Eugene"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jessica on October 14, 2014, 11:20:15 PM
Ninja trance! Yes! 'Cause he was a really good fighter for somebody who was locked away in institutions since he was a kid. Maybe he's possessed by a ninja. I saw an awful movie once about this 1980s aerobics instructor who gets possessed by a ninja. So... it happens!

Pink Floyd? lol. Yet... Somehow I doubt Tommy listens to music. Think about it. Laying in bed or hanging out in his room in part 5, he never has a radio on. When he was driving the truck around in part 6, he never had the radio on. This guy prefers getting locked up in his own head.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: mike on January 18, 2015, 09:55:30 PM
haha.. yeah it was almost like he put himself into a ninja trance..
lol jimmy.  i wanna go into a ninja trance!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Lalaaidannicole on February 11, 2015, 01:27:07 AM
 :jason5: Same with me actually. When i first watched part 5 a couple times, i truly disliked it. When i would watch a marathon of the Friday franchise, i usually skipped part 5. As 2010 rolls by, i started watching it more often. I started to like it more, but then it had a bunch of mistakes and errors. And when "Impostor Jason/Roy" fell off the barn, and landed on the spikes, i couldn't help but laugh and rewind the scene!! It was totally obvious that that was a dummy. But, anyways, I watched part 5 on netflix, and i liked it. I watched it every night i went to bed, until they took it off. Yeah, sure it is not the best friday movie, but hey, it's a cult classic.   :jason5:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 21, 2015, 05:10:06 PM
Ninja trance! Yes! 'Cause he was a really good fighter for somebody who was locked away in institutions since he was a kid. Maybe he's possessed by a ninja. I saw an awful movie once about this 1980s aerobics instructor who gets possessed by a ninja. So... it happens!

Pink Floyd? lol. Yet... Somehow I doubt Tommy listens to music. Think about it. Laying in bed or hanging out in his room in part 5, he never has a radio on. When he was driving the truck around in part 6, he never had the radio on. This guy prefers getting locked up in his own head.
Ninja 3 - the Domination


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: DUKE1 on February 22, 2015, 10:27:42 PM
Man I love ninja 3 classic 80s crazy. Plus the opening sequence is very fun action.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jessica on February 23, 2015, 12:58:54 AM
Is that the one on YouTube where the ninja attacks a golf course?!  That thing is CRAZY stupid. lol. And I love how the cop's radio announces that there's a 1014 (or whatever the number was) in progress at the golf course. Wow, here's a NUMBER for a ninja attack?! But then I had to turn it off when the fat hairy Italian guy was getting a back rub. Ack! No! Too much. 80s cheese is one thing (I love "A New Beginning") but I draw the line at fat, hairy back rubs.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 24, 2015, 04:21:11 PM
Man I love ninja 3 classic 80s crazy. Plus the opening sequence is very fun action.
Yeah , pure 80's cheese in a fun way !

Sho Kosugi did a few of them . My favorite is 'Revenge of the Ninja' .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 24, 2015, 04:23:30 PM
Is that the one on YouTube where the ninja attacks a golf course?!  That thing is CRAZY stupid. lol. And I love how the cop's radio announces that there's a 1014 (or whatever the number was) in progress at the golf course. Wow, here's a NUMBER for a ninja attack?! But then I had to turn it off when the fat hairy Italian guy was getting a back rub. Ack! No! Too much. 80s cheese is one thing (I love "A New Beginning") but I draw the line at fat, hairy back rubs.
LOL , that's funny !

Yes - you have the right movie . The girl who gets possessed in Lucinda Dickey . She did those two 80's breakdance movies . Breakin'/Beat Street and Beatstreet 2 - Electric Bugaloo


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on March 03, 2015, 02:11:55 AM
Watched it this past Sunday night and had an absolute blast. The movie to me gets better and better.

Btw why has it been removed from Netflix? The other 7 movies R on there still which I'm happy about. Part 5 though has been removed. What gives?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jessica on March 06, 2015, 12:52:06 AM
I am another of the "Part 5 gets better with age" people. I think I know why. It's a mix of two things:
1- I used to watch it rarely because I saw it as one of the lesser in the series. So it's a little "fresher" than the others now.
2- I guess I lightened up on some of my complaints. It went from "lame" to "guilty pleasure." I would never show Part 5 to the uninitiated as their first F13 experience. lol. But I have totally come to love it. Weird.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 25, 2015, 03:25:28 AM
I don't believe in guilty pleasures. If you like a movie you shouldn't have to feel guilty about it. I have always liked Part 5.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: mike on August 11, 2015, 06:52:59 PM
there's nothing wrong with part 5 lol.  :jason5:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Blane on August 16, 2015, 12:16:32 AM
There's a LOT wrong with part 5. But it's still fun because it's fucking hilarious! LOL.

If this movie came out today we would hate it. Think about it. What if Paramount came out in an article and said, "The 2016 Friday The 13th movie will not have Jason in it." How would you react? Be honest! You'd be pissed and so would I. Yet we like Part 5. I guess we forgive old movies.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: mike on August 16, 2015, 02:47:57 AM
That's cool if you feel that way.  Roy as Jason doesnt bother me at all.  It's original as it gets.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ramse on August 16, 2015, 07:51:38 AM
This is the last of my top 5 F13s movies.
I like it a lot and Roy did a great job as the killer in this movie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Blane on August 16, 2015, 07:40:33 PM
I have no problem with Roy either. And I said I like the movie. BUT, what I'm trying to get you to admit is if it came out TODAY, you'd be pissed. Think about it. We have the new movie coming in 2016, right? What if Paramount announced in a news conference that Jason is not in it? Would you be like, "Cool"? Honestly? No. But we forgive Part 5 because it's OLD. I love it. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying we would not love it if it were new. Ya get me?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Body Boy on August 17, 2015, 01:01:48 PM
Well, the spirit of Friday the 13th is there, with someone who is pretty much Jason (Roy is more Jason than anything that came after). So I am never pissed off when I watch it, even knowing that it's not Jason.

If they pulled a Season of the Witch (which I love btw), then I'd be pissed.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Blane on August 17, 2015, 05:04:07 PM
Yeah, I agree. I wasn't slamming Part 5 or Roy. I'm saying... Oh never mind. I can't make my point any clearer than I already have.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: mike on August 20, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
you made your point crystal clear.  everybody understands your point.  but it's YOUR point.  everyone has their own ideas though lol.  it's ok if people don't agree with you. 



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Blane on August 21, 2015, 02:51:16 AM
Yeah, I know that. But you weren't even responding to what I was saying. I wasn't bashing the movie or Roy so defending him was moot. Anyway....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on August 28, 2015, 01:38:27 AM
I didn't love Part V the first time I saw it but as I've watched it again and again I've really fallen in love with it. It feels like it took the mystery aspect of the original, mixed in parts of 2 & 3 and combined all of that into a really fun movie.

Plus this was fairly early in the franchise and I like they were trying new stuff too. U don't know what does and doesn't work until you try stuff. They did that with the second Elm Street and over the years it's gotten more and more fans as its been checked out more and more u know what I mean?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stebob1984 on August 30, 2015, 01:37:03 PM
This was one if the first ones I saw (may have even been the first one I saw but my memory us fuzzy) personally it never bothered me that it wasn't Jason. Especially as watching it you can tell Tom Morga is playing Jason even if he's not supposed to be him. Personally I found it an interesting idea even if it wasn't educated very well with the Roy reveal (a proper full in mystery would have been better and especially if they'd really made us suspect Tommy).


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 02, 2015, 02:49:40 AM
It's one of those movies that I feel like they had to edit it a certain way didn't they? If I remember Frank Mancuso, Jr told the editor make it look like a Pepsi commercial. MPAA ratings board didn't help either because they had a vendetta against these movies and it showed with this and Part VII.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Stebob1984 on September 04, 2015, 05:11:38 PM
It's one of those movies that I feel like they had to edit it a certain way didn't they? If I remember Frank Mancuso, Jr told the editor make it look like a Pepsi commercial. MPAA ratings board didn't help either because they had a vendetta against these movies and it showed with this and Part VII.

Haha yeah I think that was regarding the sex scene. Danny Steinman been from a porn background really made that scene well pornographic without actual intercourse from what the stories say.

Yeah they really went to town on those two didn't they, even the second one they were harsh on. It's funny how the only time they actually helped a film was the Final Chapter,. As Savini said the cuts worked because then it made Jason's death more glorious.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 08, 2015, 09:36:03 PM
Haha yeah I think that was regarding the sex scene. Danny Steinman been from a porn background really made that scene well pornographic without actual intercourse from what the stories say.

Yeah they really went to town on those two didn't they, even the second one they were harsh on. It's funny how the only time they actually helped a film was the Final Chapter,. As Savini said the cuts worked because then it made Jason's death more glorious.

I think from the Crystal Lake Memories book the people they interviewed associated with 2, 3, 4  and on said MPAA felt they were too lenient on Part 1 because then every other horror movie following it the people were like "well you let Friday The 13th get away with this..." so it bit ratings board in the ass. Then they cracked the whip starting with Part 2.

Also i agree with that the only one that helped was Part 4 because of what Savini said.

MPAA certainly did them no favors when it came to 5 and especially 7. They didnt seem to have a problem with 6 for the most part except for the bending of the sheriff backwards part. Bloodless kill but the sound effects i think is what the director said made them flip out. Oh yeah and Jason dropping the steaming heart after he punched through Tommy's friend's chest. For some reason the heart still steaming gave them fits.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JasonV on October 03, 2015, 07:21:35 AM
The thing that bother's me about this movie is Tommy is more of a background character. I wish they had maybe had Tommy hullucinate like seeing other members of Pinehurst as Jason and have him attack them, for example, he could have seen Eddie and Tina carrying on and he sees Eddie as Jason trying to kill Tina and Tommy would flip and beat the shit outta Eddie until he's pulled off and calmed down. It would have added to the idea that maybe Tommy was the killer.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: mhtdtr on October 09, 2015, 01:16:59 PM
First time i saw this movie I not liked so much cause Jason is not the killer. Since that i saw the film several times, last time today, my opinion have change. I think is a good entry in the franchise and not by far the worst film like many people says. Once you accept that Jason is dead (to that point) for my it is a good idea the twist or someone else playing Jason. The main problem that i found it's that Roy has several flaws as the killer.

I can accept that he is super strong (to rip someone eyes with a belt for example) or to rise up a girl with only one hand, but there is no sense to me in to be quiet all the time. For example, in parts II and III Jason was hurt and he screamed in pain sometime but Roy, even when he is seriously hurt, does no scream at all. He seems in pain but no word. Roy is a regular guy at the end of the day, it is stupid to made him looks like a superhero like Jason, even running (or teleporting) as hell to get the car before the people that he chase.

Other than that i like the continuity of the storyline. I like the stalking thing and the killings in general. It is a good slasher movie and a good Friday the 13th movie that add something interest to the series. I don't like at all the ending with Tommy looking as the killer. Makes no sense to me and i think there is no logical explanation at the beginning of Jason lives! about this fact. I don't like either the turning point with the killing of Roy's son (the motive for the killer and Roy) but i can understand that is more or less the same reason that Pamela's and Jason's to kill them all.

In conclusion, a good entry in the series, not my favourite one at all but not the worst by far. It is a good link between the original Pamela and Jason saga (movies 1 to 4) and the Immortal Jason saga.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: JasonV on October 15, 2015, 07:02:06 AM
First time i saw this movie I not liked so much cause Jason is not the killer. Since that i saw the film several times, last time today, my opinion have change. I think is a good entry in the franchise and not by far the worst film like many people says. Once you accept that Jason is dead (to that point) for my it is a good idea the twist or someone else playing Jason. The main problem that i found it's that Roy has several flaws as the killer.

I can accept that he is super strong (to rip someone eyes with a belt for example) or to rise up a girl with only one hand, but there is no sense to me in to be quiet all the time. For example, in parts II and III Jason was hurt and he screamed in pain sometime but Roy, even when he is seriously hurt, does no scream at all. He seems in pain but no word. Roy is a regular guy at the end of the day, it is stupid to made him looks like a superhero like Jason, even running (or teleporting) as hell to get the car before the people that he chase.

Other than that i like the continuity of the storyline. I like the stalking thing and the killings in general. It is a good slasher movie and a good Friday the 13th movie that add something interest to the series. I don't like at all the ending with Tommy looking as the killer. Makes no sense to me and i think there is no logical explanation at the beginning of Jason lives! about this fact. I don't like either the turning point with the killing of Roy's son (the motive for the killer and Roy) but i can understand that is more or less the same reason that Pamela's and Jason's to kill them all.

In conclusion, a good entry in the series, not my favourite one at all but not the worst by far. It is a good link between the original Pamela and Jason saga (movies 1 to 4) and the Immortal Jason saga.

Roy would've been killed after being hit by the tractor, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 16, 2015, 06:01:12 PM
Yeah I always thought the tractor hitting him would've killed him too. Maybe they were gonna show him with some sort of padding or something on but I thought when I watched it that would've ended his reign of terror.

Wasn't there also an alternate ending written where Roy's head was taken off? Thought I read that somewhere.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 17, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
Yeah I always thought the tractor hitting him would've killed him too. Maybe they were gonna show him with some sort of padding or something on but I thought when I watched it that would've ended his reign of terror.

Wasn't there also an alternate ending written where Roy's head was taken off? Thought I read that somewhere.
Wow, I don't remember hearing about that alternate ending!
Pretty neat, and I like learning new things about these movies, from the fanatics on this site!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on October 17, 2015, 05:31:00 PM
Wow, I don't remember hearing about that alternate ending!
Pretty neat, and I like learning new things about these movies, from the fanatics on this site!
Guys like US  aren't just fanatics. We're HARDCORE fanatics.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 18, 2015, 12:45:43 PM
Love being a hardcore fanatic and being surrounded on here by other hardcore fanatics. It's what makes this site so fun.

Yeah in Crystal Lake Memories I think it was, the guy who played Tommy's said he and a friend were allowed to write an alternate ending where they decapitated our villain. Wish it would have been used.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 18, 2015, 01:19:07 PM
Very cool. I've read Crystal Lake Memories from cover to cover, although it's been quite a while since I've browsed through it. I totally forgot about that tidbit, Austin! Thanks, bro :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 18, 2015, 04:55:53 PM
Very cool. I've read Crystal Lake Memories from cover to cover, although it's been quite a while since I've browsed through it. I totally forgot about that tidbit, Austin! Thanks, bro :)

My pleasure always happy to talk about this stuff. Makes my day especially when people like to talk about it as much as I do! :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on December 16, 2015, 06:51:35 PM
My pleasure always happy to talk about this stuff. Makes my day especially when people like to talk about it as much as I do! :)

You, me and hesvor are the Three Musketeers in this way, dude.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 02, 2016, 12:34:23 AM
You, me and hesvor are the Three Musketeers in this way, dude.

Thank you. I'm glad to always talk about it with you guys and everyone on here. :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Blane on February 13, 2016, 12:56:42 AM
@ JasonV
I don't think the tractor should have killed Roy. Not if there's something supernatural going on. I know it's never said in the movie, but I get the impression Jason's spirit or essence is somehow lingering. It's not just in Tommy's mind. And Roy might be connected to that in some supernatural, unexplained way.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ookla on November 15, 2016, 08:08:43 PM

I'll agree on the fact the character Tommy Jarvis' personality bounces way too much between 4, 5, and 6.
His personality in this is just quiet, hes really too himself. In part 6 hes way more confident and speaks whenever he needs to.

I also agree that seeing him in his tighty whities wasn't fun, and that watching junior get beaten up was cool.

And jason was cremated? I think the mayor didnt know for sure but he wanted an excuse to desuade the sheriff from thinking the killer was jason.

Seriously? You expected Tommy to have the SAME fun loving personality in Parts 5 & 6 as he did in Part 4?

Part 4: Tommy was an ordinary 12 year old kid, just beginning puberty and something of a child prodigy when it comes to making latex monster masks and movie VFX. Then Jason comes calling. . .

Part 5: Tommy is suffering from severe PTSD. This emotional trauma had led to several other psychological problems, including anger management difficulties and hallucinations. He was getting better, which is why he was at the halfway house, but was not yet ready to rejoin society (the other reason why he was at the halfway house).

Part 6: Tommy was released from the mental hospital. He's recovered enough to re-enter society, and is thus no longer as quiet and withdrawn as he was in Part 5 (keep in mind Part 6 is supposed to take place years after Part 5, which means that Tommy had received several years worth of additional therapy).


 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Ookla on November 15, 2016, 08:38:16 PM
I'm sorta shocked we don't have a thread for this...but not really since a lot of people dislike the movie.

Anyhow, I was fast forwarding through it, in search of something so I could respond to another thread and noticed something funny.

At the end of Pt. 5 the cop is holding up the news articles. I ended up pausing it to see if I could read what it said. Well, its got nothing to do with Jason other then the headline, but on top of that, it says the same thing over and over again other then the first paragraph. I just thought this was funny, as I've never noticed it before.

I always found this movie to be a fun entry in the series. Not a great entry by any means. Between studio interference and MPAA restrictions, the movie failed to meet its full potential, but not to entertain.

I never saw the whole "Imposter Jason" storyline to be a negative. Personally I never understood the argument of "You can't have a Jason movie without Jason in it!"

First of all, the movies aren't called "Jason" they're called "Friday The 13th". And second (SPOILER ALERT) Jason was NOT the killer in the original movie, the one that started it all! It was his MOTHER! As long as the killer was INSPIRED by Jason, as Roy and Mrs Voorhees were, that's all you really need for a Friday The 13th movie.

It's big failings were the lack of suspense, forced by Paramount insisting that the movie have a jump scare or kill (preferably a kill) once about every 5 minutes. Seriously you can set your watch by it. The other problem was weak writing. They made it too obvious that Roy was the killer, and the big reveal of his motive was totally phoned in.

Then with the MPAA forcing unnecessary cuts to fit with the "moral compass" they were going by on the day that they reviewed the movie (a compass with a needle which spins like a top on a good day) the movie failed to please most of its target demographic.

I've posted this elsewhere on this site, but here are the changes I would have made to make this a better movie.

1) Have fewer kills. The first two movies had body counts of only 9. Part 3 had 12. Part 4 had 13. Part 5 has 20. TWENTY! That is way too many to be able to build up any suspense. They should cut out at least 7 of those kill shots. (I'd say the waitress and her boyfriend, the redneck neighbors, the drifter, Gramps and the paramedic).

2) Have fewer shots of Roy's cold dead stare. It's a dead give away.

3) Have Vic escape from jail. This will lead the audience to believe that maybe HE is the killer.

4) Have Tommy see Jason just before each murder. This will cause the audience to think that maybe Tommy is the killer.

5) Maybe have Roy be a part time volunteer at the halfway house. This would help explain why he went on killing spree to avenge the son he had abandoned (he was keeping close tabs on him, but secretly).

6) Show us the damned sex scene between the two kids in the woods damn it!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Blane on November 16, 2016, 12:16:46 AM
Quote
First of all, the movies aren't called "Jason" they're called "Friday The 13th".

I've said this before. I like Part 5. I personally don't care if Jason is the killer or not. But I can totally see why people might be mad. I mean, if Paramount put out a press release right now, today, saying the upcoming movie (supposedly coming out in 2017) is not going to have Jason in it, I bet most fans would be pissed. Even people who love Part 5 would be like, "Wtf is Paramount doing? A Friday movie without Jason?" So we say we don't care about whether Jason is the killer in Part 5 because it came out 30 years ago and we know Jason came back in the next one. It's just a "chapter" so we're like, "So what?" But if they did a Friday movie TODAY without Jason, people would be mad. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jasonlives52 on November 16, 2016, 05:59:49 AM
When I reflect back on Part V, I understand the thinking of the day since I was probably in that original demographic being I was 19 getting ready to turn 20 when this came out. Because the Final Chapter had been hyped so much as being just that, I think people were cynical about seeing a new film so soon after the fact. You also have to remember this was 1985, and there had been a new movie every year starting in 1980 with the franchise only taking one break in 1983, before the supposed final installment. So to see it not even take a breather and skip a year seemed suspect.

In the 80's, audiences were either all in or heavily divided. I think the Friday the 13th franchise had the general public on board until the final chapter. The series had been fresh enough and Jason more than interesting enough that most anyone with a fleeting interest bought a ticket. But in those days people liked to see things wrap up. Star Wars had just finished it's run in 1983 and quite honestly, at that moment, the Lucas brand looked old and tired. So I believe when audiences checked in to see one more round with Jason, the Final Chapter was going to stretch it as far as people could accept. And that turned out to be relatively true.

So when 'A New Beginning' came out, you saw what became a relatively steep decline in ticket receipts. Up until then the franchise had enjoyed a really huge turn out in box office returns with Part II being the only exception because, at that point, I don't think Jason was particularly defined. So the great irony of Part V is the general public stopped showing up and the die-hard fans stepped in. Fans kept the series banking between $19 and $20 million an installment for several more entries. In my eyes, since I was one of those die-hards, it became clear this was truly a love-fest for Jason and the more they twisted and contorted him, the better.

So as much as Part V was frowned on in it's day for not having Jason, it definitely signaled a new norm because now it was strictly the fans showing up to see these films and Paramount, to it's credit, rewarded them by bringing Jason back in Part VI. In many ways Part V holds a very proud moment in the history of the franchise for that reason. I like that film now more than ever, so I really have no ambiguous feelings about it's merits. It was at THAT moment the studio had decided to move forward regardless and the real fans of the series showed up to make sure the series got that support.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Jasons Shack on April 07, 2017, 09:34:27 PM
That was a very good summary man, enjoyed reading it.

The previous 3 times I watched part 5 I didnt really enjoy it. I decided to watch it again the other day when the anniversarry rolled around and I liked it alot more. Maybe I finally accepted it for what is was and was able to look past it I dont know. There are still huge issues with it...but overall its a fun movie. Also if you look at it as part 2 in the trilogy of Tommy than its not bad at all.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 5 discussion
Post by: Fragminion on September 19, 2017, 03:03:58 AM
I just rewatched this the other day and I had to wonder....Was dressing like a 50's Greaser really a thing?