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Title: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on December 14, 2007, 03:25:56 AM
Early in the film, while posing as Jason's mother, Freddy makes a remark about how "No matter what they do to you, you cannot die. You can never die." This is something pretty obvious to fans of the series.

Why, then, when they're fighting for the first time in the dream world, does it come as such a shock to Freddy that Jason won't die that he actually asks him, "Why won't you die?" Did the scriptwriters forget the previous line?


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: Deathscythe on December 14, 2007, 04:42:56 AM
Did the scriptwriters forget the previous line?
Likely they did. But storyline wise, I like to think Krueger made that remark out of frustration.


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: AnimalRage on December 14, 2007, 06:05:04 AM
Here's what I think. Freddy was posing as Pamela Voorhees(Jason's mom) right? It's obvious that Freddy in disguise wanted to trick Jason into thinking he is immortal , but Freddy never knew that that was true. So that's why he said "Why won't you die?!" in the nightmare sequence.


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: Fallen on December 14, 2007, 10:22:04 AM
Here's what I think. Freddy was posing as Pamela Voorhees(Jason's mom) right? It's obvious that Freddy in disguise wanted to trick Jason into thinking he is immortal , but Freddy never knew that that was true. So that's why he said "Why won't you die?!" in the nightmare sequence.

Yepp, makes perfect sense. Freddy probably didn't look too much into Jason before sending him to do the dirty work.


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: Kat on December 14, 2007, 11:39:23 AM
Here's what I think. Freddy was posing as Pamela Voorhees(Jason's mom) right? It's obvious that Freddy in disguise wanted to trick Jason into thinking he is immortal , but Freddy never knew that that was true. So that's why he said "Why won't you die?!" in the nightmare sequence.

Yeah, thats kinda what I always thought as well. Overall, I don't like that thought that he can 'never' die, though.


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: Killer-C on December 14, 2007, 01:29:25 PM
since he searched hell to find the perfect person to do the job,obviously he was already dead,freddy probably thought that he was tuff to kill but it would be easier in dream world


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: NancyThompson on December 14, 2007, 03:03:21 PM
Here's what I think. Freddy was posing as Pamela Voorhees(Jason's mom) right? It's obvious that Freddy in disguise wanted to trick Jason into thinking he is immortal , but Freddy never knew that that was true. So that's why he said "Why won't you die?!" in the nightmare sequence.

Thats what i always though too. I also did not like that they had Freddy as Pamela saying he can never die because we all know he will die when New Line stop making the movies


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: Jason Forever on December 14, 2007, 07:06:39 PM
Thats what i always though too. I also did not like that they had Freddy as Pamela saying he can never die because we all know he will die when New Line stop making the movies

Good call Nancy. You know the saying, the pen is mightier than the sword (unless you meet someone with automatic weapons then all bets are off) well in this case it is true. No sword or weapon will ever kill Jason, but the lack of a writer picking up that pen to make another movie in effect gives Jason the death offscreen he could never be given on it.


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: NancyThompson on December 14, 2007, 07:49:11 PM
LOL that was what i was thinking when they had Freddy tell Jason that i was like yea Jason can die if the New line stop making the movies. Hell & Freddy both will die then because the lack of a writer writing for the movies. but maybe it be a good idea because with the scripts some writers come up it be good just kill both Jason & Freddy off for good


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: Hell-Scorpion on December 15, 2007, 08:35:23 AM
Hey do any you think that if they made a Part 13, that they'd decide to kill of Jason permanatley (twice in the movie, 1 for Jason, for Jason X) and end the Friday the 13th saga?


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: Jason Forever on December 15, 2007, 12:33:43 PM
I don't think we will see anymore movies involving the "original" Jason Voorhees. Once the remake drops the Jason we know will be history. Just like what is happened with the original Micheal Myers and that remake.


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: Kat on December 15, 2007, 06:10:24 PM
^ yeah, thats true...why bother when you can continue with the fresh version...then again, maybe in a few years, a really big fan of the series will breathe some life into the 'old' series and continue with it...doubt it though :(


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: NancyThompson on December 16, 2007, 12:40:12 AM
I don't think we will see anymore movies involving the "original" Jason Voorhees. Once the remake drops the Jason we know will be history. Just like what is happened with the original Micheal Myers and that remake.

So true the "Original" Jason Voorheese we all come to love will be history like the Remake for Halloween did to the original Michael Myers and Dr Loomis


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: ProwlerChad on December 20, 2007, 01:56:50 PM
The "real" JV and Michael/Loomis movies will always be with us, not matter how many shitty, pathetic remakes are produced.


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: chachainsaw on December 22, 2007, 01:43:37 AM
"Did the scriptwriters forget the previous line?"

I dont think this question even needs to be asked.  I think its pretty obvious that the writers had no idea what they were doing in the first place.


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: joshua123 on February 11, 2008, 08:44:08 AM
from memory i thought freddy has the idea jason would just disappear and move on when hed killed enough people to restore fear. He told jason he couldn't die maybe to add in extra motivation for him to rise from the dead and kill  just as he used to. So when freddy said why won't you die when fighting jason later on, its just a coincidence that it links with what he said before, freddy probably never thought about having to get rid of jason until he had to ....and was then shocked at how hard it was


Title: Re: So I just watched Freddy vs. Jason again and noticed something bizarre
Post by: jimmyd on July 12, 2009, 10:03:09 AM
normally in the dream world.... freddy can kill his victims....he didnt know JV could "regenerate"... therefore not die..