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Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on March 25, 2007, 10:41:28 AM
Kinda surprised we don't have one of these...actually all I could find was 6, 3 & 4 dicussion topics..

Anyhow, lets discuss the Friday The 13th that started it all!

To be honest, it took me a really long time to get into this movie. I really didn't like it much for years and years. Its probably only been within the last 6-7yrs that I've started liking it...perhaps even 5-4yrs. The more I watch it the more I like it.

What didn't I like? I dunno, I can't really pinpoint it. I think that it not being Jason was a major thing for my teenage mind back then. The old rough look of the film (now with DVD thats gone) I never had a problem with any of the characters, actually for the longest time none of them really stuck out to me. Now I like them all a bit better.

The first time I watched this, I was anywhere between the age of 2-5 so I cannot recall my first impression of the film. But to those of you who can please share it with us.

How did you feel when you found out it was a female killer? I know there are people out there who hate that type of twist to a film. I think the major throw off, was when we did see parts of the killer it did look like a man...where in other films you get a small glimps and you might have an idea that its a woman


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: tabbysquealer on March 25, 2007, 01:55:34 PM
well I was a late bloomer with Jason...my first was part 2, but I always wondered how the whole thing transcended to what is now the longest running horror series. for me, I credit my aunt and (former?) VHS queen who had stacking shelves of bootlegged movies and most of them were horror and action. and on the odd occasion, I find myself snooping in her little notebook of titles. and if it was all right with her (and my mom), I could watch one. but after a little white lie about watching Benji or some other PG movie, I popped in Friday the 13th...and after that I was never the same. and when the moment came that Mrs. Voorhees was responsible, I was stunned. sadly, I had to wait to watch the rest. BUSTED!! of course, Mom didn't get too mad. and eventually I did get to see the finale...on a night when my mom worked the night shift and when she left her video membership card out in a place where I could snatch it and walk down the street.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on March 25, 2007, 02:33:48 PM
I first watch part 1 is right after TFC come out on VHS and my mom rented part 1 and i was watching it and i keep on thinking where Jason at. But the ending really shock me since we never would had guess that a woman was doing the murders.

That is what made part 1 just great since we had to think who the killer was.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on May 03, 2007, 12:01:31 PM
I'm shocked that with all the Friday fans on this forum that nobody else has replied and this topic has just sat here...so I'll bump it up again.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Maniac on May 03, 2007, 12:32:58 PM
I was like you Kat, I didn't really care for the original mostly because I knew there was no Jason but oneday a few years back I gave it another chance and it grew on me. I make sure everytime I have my own marathon that I start off with Part 1. I know all the films have their issues and whatnot but I can't really find too much wrong with Part 1 and most of the characters are likable compared to the awful Part 3. Just seeing this tpic now is making me want to watch it again, maybe I will..  :grin:

Dark


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on May 03, 2007, 02:30:25 PM
Quote from: "Dark"
I was like you Kat, I didn't really care for the original mostly because I knew there was no Jason


Yeah, I think that was the same for me. Plus the movie just looked so old on VHS. I guess I also couldn't appreciate Mrs. V as the killer


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on May 05, 2007, 02:18:43 PM
I saw 1 on video before I saw 2 in the theater. I am a HUGE fan of 2, but 1 was a lot of fun when I first saw it. I had NO idea who the killer was, especially since you never saw her as a character untill the last reel.
The grainy look is kind of still there on the DVDs, but nothing beats the old VHS rental days.
I LOVE the first 4 movies in this series.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: SwanKong on June 13, 2007, 06:28:12 PM
Of the series this one is middle of the road for me.   I watch it now to see Crazy Ralph and Officer Dorf.  Thier performances crack me up.   I remember thinking the killer was either the truck driver or Ralph when I first saw it.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 18, 2007, 08:03:59 PM
Yeah, some of the closeup shots of the truck driver were kinda creepy.  I knew it wasn't Ralph for some reason. Too obvious, I guess.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: SwanKong on June 18, 2007, 08:52:37 PM
One thing that always bothered me is in Alice's struggle to survive she really never gave the chain on the desk a concerted effort.  
            With here adrenaline pumping and the butt of a rifle I do not think it could have been that hard to break one or more of the handles off of the drawers in order to get at the ammunition inside.   Also, even if she could not get the drawers open she certianly could have used the gun to her advantage without ammo.  As a bludgeoning weapon or even to threaten Mrs. V with.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 18, 2007, 10:18:44 PM
Yeah...I can't remember at the moment...but didn't one of them throw string/yarn at the other one? Like how lame was that move....


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 23, 2007, 02:23:43 PM
Well the other night i watch part 1 and I was LMFAO at when Ned said "There no Crazy people around here"  :laugh:


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: VoorheesShirt on July 01, 2007, 07:02:57 PM
Nearly on par with Carpenter's Halloween. Friday The 13th is the second greatest slasher movie of all time.

Say Halloween's Gone With The Wind, the Friday HAS to be The Godfather.

Funny, too how Friday seems to be gradually growing a like reputation whereas 20 years ago, most "experts" who rated Halloween as a classic only had Friday as a 1 or 2 star move.    

I love the atmosphere and suspense of the original F13.    The setting is second-to-none too.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: stevenfreeman on July 01, 2007, 07:24:40 PM
I am not a fan of this movie at all, as a matter of fact, I hate it.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on July 01, 2007, 07:46:34 PM
Can I ask why you hate the first one? Is it because it did not have Jason as the killer or what?


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 14, 2007, 01:57:53 PM
I just watched it again on the actual Friday the 13th, and I really enjoyed seeing it again. It has a true feel to it. The isolation, the sense of dread. You could also make the argument that Jason was lurking around the camp during his mom's rampage. He could've thrown Brenda's body thru the window!


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: SwanKong on July 14, 2007, 02:30:35 PM
Good point, who's to say Jason wasn't doing a little research from the shadows while Mom was stalking the lads and lasses?  I think some people need a big budget production to fill the void in their imaginations when viewing a film to appreciate it or enjoy it.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on July 16, 2007, 05:23:40 AM
Quote from: "ProwlerChad"
I just watched it again on the actual Friday the 13th, and I really enjoyed seeing it again. It has a true feel to it. The isolation, the sense of dread. You could also make the argument that Jason was lurking around the camp during his mom's rampage. He could've thrown Brenda's body thru the window!


Or his mom could had thrown her body too. if anyone have any rage they can do anything hell my mother got so pissed one time that she actally pick up a 170 pound man and push him out of her house.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on August 06, 2007, 05:41:12 PM
I wonder how quickly Ned died when he went into Jack's cabin?
 That scene still spooks me, when he sees PV up on the porch.........


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on August 06, 2007, 06:32:05 PM
Quote from: "ProwlerChad"
I wonder how quickly Ned died when he went into Jack's cabin?
 That scene still spooks me, when he sees PV up on the porch.........


It doesn't seem like Jack and Marcie went into the cabin much later then him...plus, you can die pretty quickly from a slashed throat...main arteries and whatnot

but that is really nasty that they had sex with a dead body above them...


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Maniac on August 06, 2007, 07:35:48 PM
Yea that's a good scene the way it played out as all you can really see is a black silhouette of Pamela before she enters the cabin. It is creepy and Kat I guess since they didn't know he was up there they didn't have a care.

Dark


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 07, 2007, 12:58:22 PM
The even more disturbing thing is that Pamela was under the bed when the two were having sex in the first place. Which I bet made her more pissed off as they were going at it.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on August 07, 2007, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: "The Pumpkin King"
The even more disturbing thing is that Pamela was under the bed when the two were having sex in the first place. Which I bet made her more pissed off as they were going at it.


Thats true! I never thought about that much LOL


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on August 09, 2007, 08:09:27 PM
I wasn't wondering how quickly Ned died due to the cut, but how long he was in there before Mama V. offed him. That's a creepy thought. Did she hide for a bit and jump out at him?
I love how these movies leave things to the imagination.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on August 10, 2007, 12:48:58 AM
Quote from: "ProwlerChad"
I wasn't wondering how quickly Ned died due to the cut, but how long he was in there before Mama V. offed him. That's a creepy thought. Did she hide for a bit and jump out at him?
I love how these movies leave things to the imagination.


Sorry I wasn't saying that right...

If I recall correctly, weren't Jack and Marcie not that far off from him? Sure we could assume with movie magic and all that it was an hour later...but with night falling....i dunno, it just seemed like he was killed as soon as he was in there, and then Jack and Marcie came right along...


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on August 25, 2007, 11:53:46 AM
The cries that Brenda hears during the storm are pretty creepy.

If I had been Bill and Alice, I WOULD have just walked out of there.
And I would've gotten to the ammo.


Title: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 26, 2007, 06:51:15 AM
Quote from: "ProwlerChad"
The cries that Brenda hears during the storm are pretty creepy.
 


I always wonder how come Alice did not hear the girl cries like Brenda. There was a storm but if Brenda could hear i just wonder how come Alice did not


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on November 05, 2007, 07:07:09 PM
Wouldn't Steve have been weirded out more by seeing Mrs. V. out at the camp sign? Or would she have been "checking in on the camp" since she was an old family friend?

I was watching some of the bonus stuff on the box set, and Betsy Palmer really thought she should've appeared earlier in the film, and not just during the fnal reels.

I kind of agree with that. She could've been seen in the store where Annie is looking for a ride, in that diner during the storm, or just somewhere very briefly. You know, everyone else that could have been a "suspect" was seen earlier, to keep audiences guessing.

What do you all think?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on November 05, 2007, 07:12:37 PM
I don't know...on one hand...perhaps...but on another hand I don't think so. Thats what was so surprising about it...you had NO clue it was her, there wasn't even a way to guess it.

But...Steve does say "Hey, what are YOU doing out here" he's already confused about why she's there...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on November 05, 2007, 07:55:11 PM
I also do not think she should had appeared early because it was a good shock just to have her at the end of the movie like they did

And also i think Steve was confused why she was out there. just listen to how he says the line you will see he is confused.

Also wonder what Mrs V was doing when Ned saw her.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Fallen on November 06, 2007, 10:09:29 AM
I like it that she didn't appear until the very end of the film. If you were very smart it could be possible to put together the clues given from the people throughout the movie. The truck guy that drives annie (think his name was enos?) says "Boy drowning" first, followed by "Bunch of Fires" and "Water was bad". You could get the idea that somebody didn't want the camp to re-open, and unless it was somebody unsignificant until the end of the film, you could assume it had something to do with the boy drowning otherwise it was just a killer with no plain motive to see.

As for my first time seeing this movie I was about 8 years old i think. I had already previously seen part 2 and part 3 on a TBS Marathon on a Halloween one year. From here I associated that "Friday the 13th" meant Jason was the killer. So my older brother and the neighborhood rented scary movies every saturday and would watch them at some ones house and this is one we picked eventually. I just remember thinking "Wow Jason is really thin in this one" when it shows the killers feet in the beginning haha. But I remember loving the movie and it was definitely one of the ones that locked me into horror movies. Less than 2 years later I had started buying all the movies for $11 each week from my allowance until I had each one.

Now that I think about it, I could say this film is what popped my horror cherry. I fell in love with this, the whole series and then really wanted to keep getting into more series and eventually just ended up where im at right now with a huge horror collection  ;D.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 14, 2008, 09:37:42 PM
Bumping this up because i got question when Jack & Marcie was coming into the bedroom and Ned was on the top bunk already dead wouldn't they see him when they walk in the room?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Count_Sarge on June 15, 2008, 01:27:01 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Mrs. Voorhees was awesome! ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 15, 2008, 10:28:10 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Mrs. Voorhees was awesome! ;D

Hell no! She was my Fav!  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on June 15, 2008, 11:46:07 AM
Bumping this up because i got question when Jack & Marcie was coming into the bedroom and Ned was on the top bunk already dead wouldn't they see him when they walk in the room?

They couldn't see him probably because it's too dark, and they didn't care for anything (except having sex).

I don't like how she appears so late in the film. We don't know anything until the end. Only Jason's drowning is mentioned when no one would notice. It would have been better if it played as a whodunit. Pamela appears early in the film, and the drowning has more details to it.

Also I find it kind of funny that Enos's name sounded so much like Anus.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 15, 2008, 02:46:24 PM
Speaking of Jack and Marcie...

Marcie and Jack have sex, she leaves to go to the bathroom. The Killer is under the bed, kills Jack. Marcie is still gone...now, wouldn't you think she would have gotten to the bathroom BEFORE the killer. So, how is the killer in the bathroom if there is only one door and she was standing in front of it, in front of mirrors....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Count_Sarge on June 15, 2008, 04:31:27 PM
Hell no! She was my Fav!  ;D

Finally, someone else who appreciates the old lady.


I find her more creepier. She seems like a innocent old lady but, when you least expect it BAM! your dead!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: LAZARUS on June 28, 2008, 12:21:03 PM
 Hi everyone,

 I first saw this film way back on a Wednesday evening August 11, 1982, (that Friday being a Friday 13th) at the local High School as part of a double header with Friday the 13th part II. I went with a friend, we were twelve years old and the youngest ones there. I remember the ending with the deformed Jason leaping out of the water as being a real shock. The creepy camp atmosphere is excellent. I went on a school camp once at a place called Galston Gorge which is not far from Sydney and yet the place is completely isolated. It was in a valley and you couldn't receive any television or radio reception.

I like the flashbacks to Jason's drowning with the sense of his complete isolation in his hour of need. I think more attention needs to be paid to the pathos, the sadness of Jason's situation.

Pamela Voorhees appears to be suffering from some form of Schizophrenia.

In another thread, I likened the Friday the 13th films to the real life Ivan Milat backpacker killings here in Australia. In this film there is the abduction of a hitch hiker depicted which I had completely forgotten about.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: LAZARUS on June 29, 2008, 10:43:51 PM
 Does anyone know the name of the song that's playing in the diner?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 30, 2008, 09:14:25 AM
Does anyone know the name of the song that's playing in the diner?

Sail Away Tiny Sparrow


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on June 30, 2008, 03:46:34 PM
wasn't that song playing in the diner at the begining and the diner Steve went to? (probably the same one)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 01, 2008, 02:43:02 AM
You gotta remember they never expected the popularity to arise from this film so I shrug off mistakes in this movie. The sequels I have to make excuses for.

i.e.: If I was doing it for this one, I'd say Marcie went somewhere else before heading straight to the restroom.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Sir Snooty Tooty on July 26, 2008, 08:01:01 AM
(Back in 1999 I was a film reviewer for a now defunct free paper in Cleveland, OH called the Cleveland Spot. As part of our Halloween edition I reviewed all of the Friday the 13ths. Well, all of them up to Jason Goes To Hell. The fallowing is an abridged version of one of my reviews. As time goes on I'll do more. Hope you folks enjoy it. Late.
-Snooty)

It is hard to believe that at one time there was no Jason. No hockey mask. No series filled with cheap come on gimmicks to get the audience into the theaters. All there was was a cheap little Halloween knock off that literally scared the bejebus out of people. Back in 1981 my grandparents bought an RCA Selectavision player. Imagine a record player that played movies. For Halloween that year they bought Friday the 13th. Thus began my multi decades long love affair with the Great Hockey Masked One.

Sean Cunningham had seen the success of Halloween and Dawn of the Dead and thought a slushing together of those ideas, (Halloween's tension coupled with Dawn's blood and guts), could possibly be an e-ticket theater ride.

Unlike it's later sequels the first Friday allows us to get to know it's victims. It has a thing called character development. By today's standards it seems hokey. But in reality it is the most cohesive out of all the films in the series. And just like Halloween it takes a very normal setting, (eg-a summer camp), and turns it on it's ear. And if you've ever been camping then you know all about the fear of "Something being out there". When I was a very small boy my Grandparents, (Before they moved to CA and before they had the Selectavision player), owned a small cottage on Mahr Lake in MI. We, (my parents and brother), use to go there on weekends. I remember across the lake on a peninsula there was this Girl Scouts Camp. Now, I'm sure it was a very normal place. But as a six year old boy it held mystery and fear for me. The first Friday touches on those fears. It plays your emotional harp and it does it well.

There really is no mystery as to who the killer is. When Mrs. Voorhees appears on screen for the first time we know she is the evil doer. And that, I suppose, is Cunningham's truly best reenactment of Hitchcock's Bomb analogy. Hitch use to give this analogy as thus... Two people are in an office talking. All the sudden a bomb goes off. For a few minutes the audience is scared. However, if you show the bomber come in and place the bomb. Then show the two people talking the audience goes nuts yelling at the screen telling them to get out. Mrs. Voorhees is a lot like that. We know she is the killer. And we know what she will do to Alice. We go crazy yelling at Alice to get the *beep* outta there.

All in all I love this one. Between Savini's effects and Cunningham's pacing there really isn't a whole lot wrong with this flick. And Jason's leap from the lake is enough to make repeat viewers jump on their third viewing. It's too bad, however, that Adrienne King's parting line of "Then he's still there...." turned out to be all so true.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: cabbagestew on August 25, 2008, 09:48:22 PM
The cries that Brenda hears during the storm are pretty creepy.

I wonder if these cries were actually conducted by Betsy Palmer.  Anyone know?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 25, 2008, 10:29:12 PM
its= sounds like a child..... too young to be her... imo... but who else could it be...... (maybe a secret accomplice revealed in the remake...lol)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 25, 2008, 11:24:46 PM
I think it was her but hey that JMO


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: atlarman on August 26, 2008, 03:00:20 AM
I think it was her but hey that JMO
Agreed...if u listen REAL close you can tell was older person trying change pitch to sound younger...most likely her IMO


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 26, 2008, 09:07:05 AM
im gonna watch... listen.. and watch.. and listen.... it makes sense,....but i dunno....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: erock on August 26, 2008, 12:55:06 PM
this is by far my fav in the series,the erie camp scenes and the small town setting made it seem like it could really happen.a women being the killer was a surprise twist.i remember seeing this movie with my mom cause she liked betsy palmer! never thought she,d be the killer! :jason10:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: erock on August 26, 2008, 01:14:39 PM
Bumping this up because i got question when Jack & Marcie was coming into the bedroom and Ned was on the top bunk already dead wouldn't they see him when they walk in the room?
if you look closely,ned is hidden behind some sleeping bags.and it was dark


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: erock on August 26, 2008, 01:17:49 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Mrs. Voorhees was awesome! ;D
i agree!i love the fact that it was a woman.wish she would have been in at least part 2


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 26, 2008, 02:29:34 PM
i always love the way she talks to herself "kill her mommy, kill her!"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Marie on September 01, 2008, 09:23:48 PM
Some meds and she probably would have been ok. :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on September 15, 2008, 07:39:18 PM
i like betsey palmers flannels that she wears under her infamous sweater.... i have one that resembles it.. but its just not the same... :(..lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on February 22, 2009, 09:09:03 PM
Wonder why Jason never put on his mom's ring after Pt. I.
I watched Pt.I again the night before the new movie came out. Still kinda laugh at the Fall leaves when its supposed to be Summer.
Yes, I know it was shot in the fall of '79.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Maniac on March 02, 2009, 08:00:20 AM
I watched this twice recently (last week actually) and I have acquired a new found appreciation for this movie. I now consider this my favorite tied very close with Part II because it was just done right. I loved the opening scenes of Annie walking through the town (I actually like the feel of the town and notice how no one was outside) and then interacting with the town folk in the restaurant. You get a sense of doom from the onset and this set up the mood for later on in the movie.

I also liked some of the dialogue between Annie and Enos when he was telling her about the fires and the bad water when they had previously tried to re-open the camp. I wish they would've delved into that subplot just a little more. Anyway, I wish Sean S. Cunningham would make another sequel done his way without studio interference because he would put out a great film. I wouldn't let the fact that Jason isn't in the movie (killing that is) deter people from seeing this, it is an absolutely great slasher and achieved alot more IMO then any of the sequels with Jason aside from Part II.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: stain on March 02, 2009, 11:35:28 AM
I watched this twice recently (last week actually) and I have acquired a new found appreciation for this movie. I now consider this my favorite tied very close with Part II because it was just done right. I loved the opening scenes of Annie walking through the town (I actually like the feel of the town and notice how no one was outside) and then interacting with the town folk in the restaurant. You get a sense of doom from the onset and this set up the mood for later on in the movie.

I also liked some of the dialogue between Annie and Enos when he was telling her about the fires and the bad water when they had previously tried to re-open the camp. I wish they would've delved into that subplot just a little more. Anyway, I wish Sean S. Cunningham would make another sequel done his way without studio interference because he would put out a great film. I wouldn't let the fact that Jason isn't in the movie (killing that is) deter people from seeing this, it is an absolutely great slasher and achieved alot more IMO then any of the sequels with Jason aside from Part II.

Well said, and that is part of why the original is one of my favorites.  The remake missed exactly what you posted, that entire feel was missing.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Maniac on March 02, 2009, 06:36:23 PM
Thank you! I agree the remake lacked that feel, actually it felt more like TCM than a Friday film. I hadn't seen the film in a couple years so I popped it in and started to notice things I never did before. I actually saw it on BluRay the second time I watched and was surprised at the clarity. One scene in particular worth mentioning is when Ned sees a silhouette of someone walk into the cabin. I heard somewhere that Savini's friend Taso played Pamela during this scene but when I paused the movie at that point it really did look like Pamela blood hair and all. Anyway great film, might watch it again soon, lol!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on March 02, 2009, 06:43:00 PM
ive always wanted to know more about the fires/ bad water....agreed that the remake/re-imaging had  no campy feel to it... we dont even know anything about the cast.. other than the brother sister/ mother with cancer thing... they were complete strangers to us... i like getting to know the characters.... THEN watch them die  :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: stain on March 02, 2009, 07:28:37 PM
ive always wanted to know more about the fires/ bad water....agreed that the remake/re-imaging had  no campy feel to it... we dont even know anything about the cast.. other than the brother sister/ mother with cancer thing... they were complete strangers to us... i like getting to know the characters.... THEN watch them die  :P

If you can get your hands on the first 3 novels they will explain in better detail the bad water, fires, etc. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on March 03, 2009, 10:03:55 AM
I would love to read those novels.....other than what I have read at CampBlood


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on March 04, 2009, 10:35:04 AM
I love part 1, but the thing that I notice every time is at the end wen you can see the toothpicks used to hold Pamela's head on her/his (Taso's) torso.....other than that, It was a great effect created by the master.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on March 16, 2009, 10:31:52 PM
I wonder if these cries were actually conducted by Betsy Palmer.  Anyone know?

Yes. According to Betsy, it is her callin out like that.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on March 29, 2009, 07:58:58 PM
That shit spooks me in the first one. The cries that Brenda hears.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Fallen on March 31, 2009, 12:43:46 AM
I didn't even notice that the first few times watching the movie. Randomly watching one time I just asked out loud when I was with my friends "Why does she go out to investigate?" and then of course they rewound the movie turned up the sound and I understood. That would scare the shit out of me though if I was Brenda. Props to Mrs. Voorhees / Betsy Palmer on that, totally sounded like a kid.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on April 01, 2009, 06:42:58 AM
she did sound like a kid and it was total awsome.  To this day I still say Betsy did a wonderful job as Mrs Voorhees i have not seen the remake yet but they said the actress who they got to play Mrs Voorhees sucked so i have to see it and see if she out did Betsy


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on April 01, 2009, 11:17:41 PM
i think they were both good the one in the remake is creepy like betsy
when she said come here now dear i swere i was like woah that is so creeeeeepy


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 03, 2009, 08:32:34 PM
"dont let her get away mommy"... "Dont worry jason... I WONT!!"...  favorite line.. she has friggin HUGE teeth.. haha


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on April 03, 2009, 09:33:48 PM
lol at one time i though the teeth where fake


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 07, 2009, 10:35:17 PM
LMAO at teeth.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 16, 2009, 12:55:08 PM
I love part 1, but the thing that I notice every time is at the end wen you can see the toothpicks used to hold Pamela's head on her/his (Taso's) torso.....other than that, It was a great effect created by the master.

You never even saw that back in the old VHS days, but the DVDs are so clear that you can see the toothpicks. As far as Taso's hands, you can't see the difference. You KNOW there is a difference because of the documentaries, you you can't actually SEE the difference, and if you never saw the documentaries, you would never even know is was Taso's hands.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on April 16, 2009, 03:05:16 PM
True Dat! ;)

I have seen it on VHS Tape back in the day

the quality of that copy (Blockbuster) was crap, but I wasn't looking too closely back then.....

I was terrified to move to change the tape after my dad fell asleep.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 16, 2009, 09:31:28 PM
Ah, the glorious days of VHS.......... Yeah, DVDs are much brighter. I remember renting tapes back in the '80s......   Now I buy more DVDs than rent.

Only notice hands now that docus revealed it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 19, 2009, 08:11:13 AM
V....V..V..V.. VH..... VHS??..  :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on April 19, 2009, 08:56:57 AM
Ah, the glorious days of VHS.......... Yeah, DVDs are much brighter. I remember renting tapes back in the '80s......   Now I buy more DVDs than rent.

Only notice hands now that docus revealed it.

LOL The VHS Blast From the Past. I still buy some of them on ebay because alot of great 80's movies have not come to dvd yet.

Speaking of Part 1 i do have both on VHS and DVD my old VHS its still play good which i am shock with how much i use to play it in the day


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 19, 2009, 09:02:39 AM
i remeber renting both parts 1 and 2 when i was younger... from a place called video revolution.. i never returned them haha.. the store has long since closed... still have the rental cases and everything...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on April 19, 2009, 09:36:39 AM
i remeber renting both parts 1 and 2 when i was younger... from a place called video revolution.. i never returned them haha.. the store has long since closed... still have the rental cases and everything...

Thats how I got some of my VHS copies (6,7,8,9)...I worked at a video store, and had rented them right before they closed...and kept them after they closed. Didn't matter much, the owner let us take some movies home free, and some others we had to pay for.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 19, 2009, 10:12:48 PM
I still have Parts 1 thru 4 on VHS that I bought in late '80s


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 20, 2009, 02:38:58 PM
I love watching the first two together as one film. They both kind of feel like two halfs of one story anyway.

That is one of the plus sides of the bos set being the way it is. When you want to watch more then one film together, you automatically have two films in your player at once. When you want to watch the first two films, just pop in disc one of the box set and you got them both.

Now, as far as the original goes, I remember it was the very first time I had ever rented a horror film from Blockbuster (with my parents' permission), it was the original Friday the 13th. This was before I even had them collected on VHS. I was in the 4th grade and just becoming a little wee horror fan.

The thing that captured me the most was that chchchhahaha sound and the music was very well done. Now, by that point I had actually seen Jason Goes to Hell and Jason Lives so I thought that Jason was going to be in it. Of course he wasn't, it was his mother, but by the end of the film that didn't even matter. I loved the characters and the music. I thought Mrs. Voorhees was scary. I loved Crazy Ralph, and the death scenes were unbelievable. The film actually gave me nightmares, and I couldn't wait to go rent another one the next weekend! The next one I would went would be The Final Chapter, which I equally loved.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 24, 2009, 01:03:58 AM
I like that otter or beaver thing you see swimmin' around. I always give it a shout out.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on May 06, 2009, 06:14:38 PM
I like that otter or beaver thing you see swimmin' around. I always give it a shout out.

i second that! i named him Bob. lol random.
so i have a question

someone told me that there was extra footage of mrs voorhees being decapitated (OTHER THEN THE UNCUT RELEASE)
is it true?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 09, 2009, 12:57:04 AM
I don't think that is true. I have the uncut version released by Paramount in the United States. Then I also have the uncut version released by Warner Brothers in Europe. Then I own the box set. I think the uncut version we have is the full extent of the Mrs. Voorhees decap scene.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on May 09, 2009, 11:46:31 AM
Yup, never ever have I heard there is more to that scene. I have an uncut asian version that I've had kicking around for 10yrs or so, and its the same as WB & the new Deluxe release just with subtitles.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Maniac on May 09, 2009, 05:23:43 PM
Nope what you see in the uncut version is the complete decap scene. I don't know where people get this stuff, lol! There was a guy on here once who kept starting $hit with us saying there were extra scenes such as Bill's (is that the right name) death in the generator room. He was also trying to say the film was released in '79 when we all know it was 1980.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on May 09, 2009, 08:54:37 PM
Nope what you see in the uncut version is the complete decap scene. I don't know where people get this stuff, lol! There was a guy on here once who kept starting $hit with us saying there were extra scenes such as Bill's (is that the right name) death in the generator room. He was also trying to say the film was released in '79 when we all know it was 1980.

Yes, I remember him. He emailed me for years about all the different things he remembered seeing...the weird part is, is that some of those I thought I saw as a child....such as Pamela's eyes opening at the end of Pt. 2, and a scene with Bill in the generator room. I *think* but don't remember, that there is a whole scene with Bill in the generator room, in the book.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on May 09, 2009, 10:26:05 PM
pamelas eyes did open at the end of pt2... they didnt use it cause it looked dumb and took away from the film... good call..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on May 10, 2009, 12:56:01 AM
pamelas eyes did open at the end of pt2... they didnt use it cause it looked dumb and took away from the film... good call..

Right, but its not on tape out there...so how would I recall seeing it without knowing the scene even existed? lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on May 10, 2009, 08:51:57 AM
Right, but its not on tape out there...so how would I recall seeing it without knowing the scene even existed? lol

i think just about everyone can say at one point they thought they saw her eyes open... the way the camera zooms in on the face.. you can almost feel that they are supposed to open.... i even recall thinking ive seen it.. but know i never have...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on May 10, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
i think just about everyone can say at one point they thought they saw her eyes open... the way the camera zooms in on the face.. you can almost feel that they are supposed to open.... i even recall thinking ive seen it.. but know i never have...

True, and I am thinking back to probably when I was 7-9yrs old. But any way, I seem to recall a couple different scenes that I haven't seen since then, and I just assume its my "kid" brain imagining  things


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on May 10, 2009, 12:34:45 PM
on the old vhs tape it does look like she open them


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 17, 2009, 10:59:07 PM
I think imagionation works on us with movies like this. With Friday 2, if you are a kid, you are looking at that ending scene to Friday 2, and your imagionation finnishes the image and you will even bet money that those eyes opened up at the end of the film.

It is just like people claiming that you see the hook go into the girl in the original Texas Chainsaw. You don't, but some people will swear up and down that you do.

Other people just read wikipedia and don't even bother to watch the films and think they know the films, and just post negotivity on the internet because they have nothing better to do.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on May 19, 2009, 11:46:55 AM

Other people just read wikipedia and don't even bother to watch the films and think they know the films, and just post negotivity on the internet because they have nothing better to do.

The guy that originally posted this info was around here may 8yrs ago, before wikipedia.

I wish I had some of the info he had sent me, he picked things out of each movie, it was wild.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 23, 2009, 02:42:42 AM
Then maybe it was the Texas Chainsaw deal where that person's imagionation was finnisheing the images for him, yet he swore that he actually saw things that didn't happen in the film(s).


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: mangler on October 28, 2009, 07:09:21 AM
I saw this one long after I saw some of the sequels. It was weird at the time not seein Jason as the killer. Still a sweet movie tho. This one was more about the horror element than the slasher/gore thing. Nice touch for the 1st one they ain't show the killer til the very end. Mrs Voorhees was classic in her psycho lines at the end.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 05, 2009, 10:55:07 PM
I saw this one long after I saw some of the sequels. It was weird at the time not seein Jason as the killer. Still a sweet movie tho. This one was more about the horror element than the slasher/gore thing. Nice touch for the 1st one they ain't show the killer til the very end. Mrs Voorhees was classic in her psycho lines at the end.


i love all the crazy things she says at the end of the movie.. she plays her part SO well...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Giganta on November 07, 2009, 12:42:29 AM
Mrs. Voorhees and Alice were fantastic they are the best in the movie I also like Steve and Annie and Jack and I can't forget Bill


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 07, 2009, 07:37:29 AM
Mrs. Voorhees and Alice were fantastic they are the best in the movie I also like Steve and Annie and Jack and I can't forget Bill


and ned and marcie and bremda.. theyre all great lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on January 17, 2010, 07:43:35 PM
Always love the fight between Alice and Mrs. V at the end. Realistic.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on January 19, 2010, 10:31:26 AM
I don't know if I like the fight as much as I like the chase. The whole "killer her, mommy" bit was absolutely perfect.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on January 19, 2010, 04:36:22 PM
Betsy was great and when she was saying "kill her mommy", you were like, what the hell is going on with this chick? Is she possessed or really this crazy? A very creepy scene in the movie and at the time it was perfectly affective!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on January 20, 2010, 01:12:39 AM
i also love the scene when pamela first runs at alice in the cabin while yelling.. ialways love to play it it slow-mo  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on January 20, 2010, 11:12:21 AM
Yea, that looks kind of strange, doesn't it?  :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: HorrorFan13 on January 20, 2010, 11:14:26 AM
I don't know if I like the fight as much as I like the chase. The whole "killer her, mommy" bit was absolutely perfect.

yeah I thought the fight was quite humorous.  But the chase was well done though IMO


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 11, 2010, 03:00:04 PM
just watchin friday the 13th... and  noticed that sarah from CSI kinda looks like marcie sometimes.. anyone else see it?...


(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2354/3529675370_19bd992b82_o.jpg)
(http://www.filmsite.org/fotos/friday13th_10.jpg)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on April 11, 2010, 03:01:42 PM
Haha, I was thinking more like Vicki from Pt. 2


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on April 11, 2010, 03:14:21 PM
aew, ou changed the photo on me. Haha. In the old one u posted she was sooo vicki lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 11, 2010, 10:22:10 PM
Holy Shit, they do look very much alike.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Starman on April 11, 2010, 11:27:22 PM
just watchin friday the 13th... and  noticed that sarah from CSI kinda looks like marcie sometimes.. anyone else see it?...


([url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2354/3529675370_19bd992b82_o.jpg[/url])
([url]http://www.filmsite.org/fotos/friday13th_10.jpg[/url])


she exactly look like one of person that i know. jeannine taylor (marcie) is HOT!
Spoiler (hover to show)

and also i never watch CSI.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: MrsV on April 13, 2010, 10:08:44 AM
Speaking of Jack and Marcie...

Marcie and Jack have sex, she leaves to go to the bathroom. The Killer is under the bed, kills Jack. Marcie is still gone...now, wouldn't you think she would have gotten to the bathroom BEFORE the killer. So, how is the killer in the bathroom if there is only one door and she was standing in front of it, in front of mirrors....

I didn't see anyone else respond to this, but if you watch, when she is in the stall, the door opens. That is when the killer enters. The door opens and you see the rain and she hears it and goes, Jack? The killer is in the shower stall when Brenda comes in later, but not Marcie.

This one will always be my fave. I'm so glad I didn't see these out of order though as I see so many have. I saw this when I was around 10 or 11 I believe, I had been seeing the preview on HBO and it was coming on and I begged to watch it. I watched it with my aunt and uncle and fell in love with it immediately. That was the end of anything else for me. Friday the 13th took over my life and still does. LOL! I saw part 2 within that same year and then remember seeing the theater preview for 3. :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 03, 2010, 07:51:20 PM
you're right , about the bathroon scene , MrsV .... good one !
and i too , thought this was a great movie !!  CLASSIC


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on May 20, 2010, 08:23:52 PM
Watched this one again last night. I agree that the bathroom scene is genuinely creepy. The rain adds alot to it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on May 20, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
well its that time again...gonna be poppin this ol' gem to kick off my run through of the friday13 films...everytime i pop it in it briefly brings me back to when i was a kid watching this...ahh memories..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 22, 2010, 04:45:18 AM
I always found that the scariest part of the movie was when Mrs. Voorhees was talking in Jason's voice and answering in her own.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on May 22, 2010, 01:14:05 PM
i love the trasnfer from day to night in this flick...its such a nice day out.. then it shows clips of the camp.. the wind picking up... waves on the water.. storm clouds rolling in... it adds such a creepy/desolate feel to the film..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Marie on May 22, 2010, 02:47:56 PM
i love the trasnfer from day to night in this flick...its such a nice day out.. then it shows clips of the camp.. the wind picking up... waves on the water.. storm clouds rolling in... it adds such a creepy/desolate feel to the film..

Agreed, I always thought so too...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 22, 2010, 05:37:37 PM
100 % ...
the storm rolling in was always something i thought was very cool as well .
it certainly added an ominous and creepy vibe , to an already suspenseful movie .
my fav will always be the original pt2 , but without pt1 , we wouldn't have the F13th series that we all love so much !

Sean Cunningham and his entire team , stepped up to the plate , and hit a grand slam homer ......


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on May 24, 2010, 03:03:32 PM
Amen


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Robot5 on June 01, 2010, 12:43:38 AM
I didn't like this one when I was younger, because it didn't have Jason in it. The older I get, I find myself becoming fonder of this one. All the elements of a friday film are so new and potent here. There's a realism in this one that only the first movie of a series can catch.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 01, 2010, 12:59:32 AM
I didn't like this one when I was younger, because it didn't have Jason in it. The older I get, I find myself becoming fonder of this one. All the elements of a friday film are so new and potent here. There's a realism in this one that only the first movie of a series can catch.


very well said dude...i also love the "whodunit" approach it had... i mean.. who really had any idea that it would be the camp cook! and that the story would expand into what it was/is....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 06, 2010, 06:27:20 PM
It really could've been a stand-alone movie. And it has absolutely ZERO supernatural elements in it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 06, 2010, 06:44:33 PM
It really could've been a stand-alone movie. And it has absolutely ZERO supernatural elements in it.
well said !
and the lack of 'supernatural' , is precisely why the 1st 3 or 4 in the series are the BEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!

also the reason i like the remake ...Jason is a MAN , not a f**king GHOST !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 06, 2010, 07:13:56 PM
Yeah, Zombie Jason is not my fave. I prefer JV of 2 thru 4  and the '09 redux. :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on June 07, 2010, 11:57:56 AM
It really could've been a stand-alone movie. And it has absolutely ZERO supernatural elements in it.

Jason's ghost jumps out of the lake at the end and pills Alice under. That leads to his Eric Draven (The Crow) like rebirth.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 07, 2010, 01:00:32 PM
Jason's ghost jumps out of the lake at the end and pills Alice under. That leads to his Eric Draven (The Crow) like rebirth.

That can be argued to have also been a dream sequence. I'd like to think that in Part 1 Jason is already a full grown man, and watched his mother beheaded. He had a shack out in the woods in Part 2, so why couldn't he have been an adult already, watch his mother die by the hands of Alice, and track her down? The idea that he magically grows from undead ghoul child to half bearded hellbilly man is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 07, 2010, 01:02:31 PM
Yeah, Zombie Jason is not my fave. I prefer JV of 2 thru 4  and the '09 redux. :jason4:

Don't get me wrong I love all the Jason but I do love the Zombie Jason from part 6 & 7 but only thing i hated is that he walk to freaking slow


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 08, 2010, 08:35:55 AM
thats what i had always thought too.. that he "drowned" in 57 and grew up in the woods..kinda perfect timing though to see his mommys decap though...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: MrsV on June 09, 2010, 09:25:39 AM
That can be argued to have also been a dream sequence. I'd like to think that in Part 1 Jason is already a full grown man, and watched his mother beheaded. He had a shack out in the woods in Part 2, so why couldn't he have been an adult already, watch his mother die by the hands of Alice, and track her down? The idea that he magically grows from undead ghoul child to half bearded hellbilly man is ridiculous.

That could only have been a dream. Alice is killed in part 2 and that is 2 months after the killings of part 1. He is obviously full grown.
I problaby said this before, but if you read the novel, you find out that Alice went back to the camp to "clear her head". That is how Jason sees her and follows her home to eventually kill her.
Although on a fun note, if you talk to Adrienne King, she will swear that Alice is still alive and that was all a dream when she got killed.  ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 09, 2010, 12:23:10 PM
thats what i had always thought too.. that he "drowned" in 57 and grew up in the woods..kinda perfect timing though to see his mommys decap though...

Haha. Yeah it is. Plus then you wonder why he never went home. (one could assume maybe Pamela didn't live close - but JGTH ruins this) He's smart enough to plan out these kills and place bodies in certain areas....but he can't walk home? LOL.

But I agree. He grew up in the woods and saw her die. Alice was just spooked from the story and dreamed him as a child grabbing her.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on June 09, 2010, 12:54:20 PM
I problaby said this before, but if you read the novel, you find out that Alice went back to the camp to "clear her head". That is how Jason sees her and follows her home to eventually kill her.

Thankfully, the user Dizzy has disappeared, MrsV. Otherwise, that dude would bite your head off for referencing anything to do with the novels.  ;)

I do agree that the ending was just a dream, as were all endings of the first three movies as well as the cut ending to The Final Chapter. The jump scare at the end of Part 1 is still very effective today!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: MrsV on June 10, 2010, 10:53:03 AM
OMG Jason! You're right! I remember him and him freaking out when people brought up the novels. LOLOL!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 10, 2010, 12:15:03 PM
I don't have the book but I read the excerpts that Kat was kind enough to include on the Camp Blood website and your right. Alice does end up returning to Camp Crystal Lake, and Jason follows her trail there. When I always watched Part II however, for some reason I always thought that Alice was in a completely different state but it makes all the more sense if she is staying in the town of Crystal Lake before returning home.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 10, 2010, 01:58:00 PM
I like having the books to fill in the blanks. They were written based on the shooting scripts and made for the movies, its not as though they were made to continue the series making up completely new things. Of course the author puts their own spin on things, but so do we..and a lot of us form different opinions when we listen to one anothers theories.

But I personally think the novels did a great job of filling in the blanks.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 10, 2010, 02:40:12 PM
But I personally think the novels did a great job of filling in the blanks.

Absolutely Kat, I couldn't agree more with you. I'm reading the excerpts you posted for Friday the 13th Part 3, 3D by Michael Avallone and it's horrible. I've not yet read the one by Simon Hawke which I'm certain is definitely better, hands down. This author though is the worse, and a lot of the things he wrote is ridiculous. Not to mention a lot of the scenes are different from what happened in the movie.

For example:
Before Andy could react, the glistening blade came down in a savage, powerful arc. The blade sliced through Andyís upside-down body, literally halving him where he stood. The ghastly scream that bolted from the young manís throat seemed to reverberate throughout the house as his mutilated remains toppled down the spiral staircase, bouncing and bumping all the way.

Jason retrieved the body. He moved like a silent wraith for so large a man. He dragged Andyís halved corpse up the stairs. There was no indecision in the monster at all. He carried the corpse back into the bedroom, while Debbie was still showering.


I also noticed that Rick's name was changed to Derek..weird..and this book was written a year after the movie was released if memory serves me correct.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Eddie Quist on June 10, 2010, 02:46:13 PM
Personally I just wished the directors would stick with the shooting script if it had all those "details".  There's just so many plot holes galore, that could have been easily cleared up with those elements kept in.  Would have made for better films on a story level, which didn't seem like was of any interest to the production team.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 10, 2010, 07:10:01 PM
I know all about the backstory that was added for Part 2, but when Pt. 1 was written, Jason was in fact dead. I LOVE the added mythos of Part 2- its my favorite of the series. But I like how the original flick could've just been a one-shot movie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 10, 2010, 08:31:27 PM
yeah , pt1 could stand on it's own . and pt2 is my fav also ..
but they didn't expect to make a sequel , let alone multiples ..!!

they were making it up as they went . it's just that certain writers and directors seemed to have a better 'feel' for the original F13th concept ....

the 'powers that be' on some of the later entries , must have been smoking crack , if they think they did any justice to the Voorhees legacy ...  IMO


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 22, 2010, 07:04:52 PM
The movie truly makes you feel like there is an impending doom. The atmosphere, the music, the camerawork.....
I like what Jimmy said about the change from day to night.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 22, 2010, 07:17:39 PM
The movie truly makes you feel like there is an impending doom. The atmosphere, the music, the camerawork.....


Agreed, I always thought this was a very atmospheric film and poetic, can't forget the scene where Marcie is talking about her dream. It is something from a totally different film and you'd never expect someone to talk about a deep dream, with rain turning to blood in a typical slasher film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 22, 2010, 07:25:47 PM
Amen


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 22, 2010, 07:38:50 PM
I finally got to see this one in HD for the first time. It was awesome. I now know that I DO want to buy them in HD when I get a HD DVD player.

I was lucky, my cable company is doing a free 10 day preview of the EPIX channel (I thought I got it because I'm signed up for their biggest package and ALL the movie channels...but I guess its not included since its new) Anyhow...they have Friday The 13th 1,2,3 in HD on there...so hopefully I'll finish those up tomorrow night yay!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 22, 2010, 07:41:38 PM
I wonder what the scene with Ned looking up at the porch and Pamela is standing there looks like in HD.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on June 23, 2010, 06:32:28 PM
Agreed, I always thought this was a very atmospheric film and poetic, can't forget the scene where Marcie is talking about her dream. It is something from a totally different film and you'd never expect someone to talk about a deep dream, with rain turning to blood in a typical slasher film.

I always thought that scene should have been cut. It slows the movie a crawl and still, to this day, I'm not sure what its trying to convey. Its almost like the movie was too short, so they needed to add something somewhere to make it a bit longer.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 23, 2010, 07:18:27 PM
yeah it is kinda random.. but its almost like the blood rain in her dream was a foretelling of her death...as in the oncoming storm would result in her death.. i dunno lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on June 23, 2010, 07:32:24 PM
yeah it is kinda random.. but its almost like the blood rain in her dream was a foretelling of her death...as in the oncoming storm would result in her death.. i dunno lol


I always wondered, What if a band grabbed an audio sample of when she is talking about her dream as like an intro? I'm surprised Slayer or some Death Metal band never thought of it.

-The sound of rain begins to fall, until it gets louder, and louder into a massive downpour-

"And then the rain turns to blood. The blood washes away in little rivers. Then the sound stops..."

-HEAVY RIFF & Song begins-

(http://rookery4.aviary.com/storagev12/1909500/1909877_9d89_625x1000.jpg)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 23, 2010, 07:37:29 PM
I wonder what the scene with Ned looking up at the porch and Pamela is standing there looks like in HD.

VERY clear. I remember reading somewhere that it was actually Ari Lehman who played Mrs V in that scene. I believe Mark Nelson (Ned) said it. On my 47" HDTV in HD, it looked like Betsy to be honest. Probably someone with a blond wig. I should watch it again and pause there.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 23, 2010, 07:42:26 PM
i either heard or read that it was betsy on the porch... but im not 100% positive


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 23, 2010, 07:44:01 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure it was either Crystal Lake Memories or Making of Friday The 13th where Mark said it was Ari. I always thought it would have been weird to have Ari play her in that part...

Now I have to boot up that part on the On Demand and look...LOL


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on June 23, 2010, 07:49:08 PM
I always wondered, What if a band grabbed an audio sample of when she is talking about her dream as like an intro? I'm surprised Slayer or some Death Metal band never thought of it.

-The sound of rain begins to fall, until it gets louder, and louder into a massive downpour-

"And then the rain turns to blood. The blood washes away in little rivers. Then the sound stops..."

-HEAVY RIFF & Song begins-

Sounds like a White Zombie song.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 24, 2010, 11:18:49 AM
i either heard or read that it was betsy on the porch... but im not 100% positive
i remember pausing that scene , and zooming in to the max capability of my dvd player . then playing frame by frame and adjusting the contrast , to make it brighter ...

i could be wrong , but i thought it was Betsy Palmer ??
although i've never seen it in HD though .....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 24, 2010, 12:55:20 PM
All I know is that on Camp Blood's Behind the Scenes I have it written as:

According to Mark Nelson (Ned), Ari Lehman plays the killer in the scene where the back of the killer is seen walking into the cabin, and Ned follows in behind the killer.


Most of my sources are magazines, books or the stars themselves. I have spoken to Ari in the past, but never to Mark Nelson. So it more then likely its from one of the two books (CLM or Making of). I haven't spoken to Ari in a long time. But I'll throw him an email and see what he says.

As for the HD version, its on my On Demand, so pausing it in the right spot SUCKS. It does look like Betsy...but I only say this because of the small amount of hair sticking out, and that could easily be a wig.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 24, 2010, 04:53:27 PM
its hard to tell because that stupid leaf is in the way,but zoomin in and in slow motion the parts of the face you can see look like a younger person


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: LOCOFOX 82 on June 26, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
Unfortunately, I was too young to see FRIDAY THE 13TH in theaters. I was 8 or 9 @ the time that I saw the original on cable & was shocked that an older lady was the killer. I wish they had introduced Mrs. Voorhees earlier in the film for a cameo so when she was revealed to be the murderer we would have been familiar with her. This movie still is tops in my book. The mood, atmosphere around the campgrounds are something subsequent sequels haven't been able to replicate. GREAT MOVIE--30 yrs old!! So hard to believe. And I'm still never tire of watching it ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on June 28, 2010, 02:17:26 AM
OMG it came on last night haha It's been awhile since I last watched it and I have to say one of my fav. scenes has to be after Alice wakes up screaming for Bill..then goes to fix herself a coffee and looks around thinking hmmm something seems off lol

They had a lot of intense, creepy scenes in here i.e Marcie in the bathroom, Alice hiding in the pantry/storage room and Pam coming in with the machete holy crap I woulda been headless by then lol And I thought they had some nice shots with the lake and the surrounding environment, even the random animal in the water lol It made the movie feel serene, yet mysterious.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: MrsV on June 29, 2010, 09:55:09 AM
I thought Betsy said that she only worked with Adrienne because by the time she was needed everyone was already killed off. They showed her photos of the death scenes to show her what her character had done.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on September 01, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
I watched this one again the other day and I have to say I appreciate it more each time I see it. Such a feel and atmosphere. There truly is a sense of impending doom in this movie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: 3timesbefore on September 02, 2010, 01:34:26 AM
I love the strange hybrid that is Friday the 13th 1980, a sort of campfire tale/whodunit mystery/slasher film that doesn't get enough credit. I read somewhere that Victor Miller wrote Mrs. Voorhees as "the mother I always wanted, someone who would kill for her kids." I don't know why, but that quote always got me, a bit of his own personal sadness mixed into a character who is in no way The Mindless Slasher that so many critics damn these movies for featuring. I mean, Halloween, which gets so much praise, has the mindless killer and is asked to go steady on a daily basis over thirty years later, while Friday the 13th - not the franchise, because there are some that are pretty mindless, with no attempt at story - gets blasted.

Mrs. Voorhees has that supreme motivation, an insanity inspired by the tragic death of her vulnerable young son. She sees everyone associated with that camp guilty, and sets about making them pay. This one has a sense of isolation that none of the others are able to recreate. Just from watching them prepare that place, with the dark green trees closing in on those run down cabins from all sides, you know that once the nasty stuff starts to happen, they're on their own. No running to a house next door for a neighbor's help, no flagging down a passing car. Camp Crystal Lake is in the wilderness, and you're reminded of that constantly.

One scene in particular stands out, and that is when the counselors are all gathered on the dock taking a mid-afternoon dip. Ned fakes drowning to get mouth to mouth from one of the girls, the same way Shelly faked disasters in Part 3. But Mrs. Voorhees is watching them swim. Her anger must have turned to rage when she saw that display, and it's little bits like that that make this movie so good.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on September 03, 2010, 05:10:08 AM
I think the original movie has a great camp setting. Ned, the truck driver, and Ralph were my favorite characters.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on September 14, 2010, 11:50:11 PM
This movie just has a great mood and atmosphere. I love watching this after i haven't seen it in a long time, it just gets better and better. To me it's one of the scariest fridays, Mrs. Voorhees is a big contributor to why i think it's scary. She is so eerie. "Kill her mommy, killer her!" ahh it never gets old.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on September 15, 2010, 01:19:05 AM
I mean, Halloween, which gets so much praise, has the mindless killer and is asked to go steady on a daily basis over thirty years later, while Friday the 13th - not the franchise, because there are some that are pretty mindless, with no attempt at story - gets blasted.

Them's fightin' words boy!

Seriously, Halloween is not praised because its killer isn't mindless. Halloween is praised because John Carpenter stitched together a brilliant opus. The stylistic differences between Halloween and Friday the 13th are as plain as day.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on September 15, 2010, 12:48:29 PM
I never liked this movie. until I watched it in July. It was great, it got the atmosphere just right! The music fit perfectly (it fits perfectly in any other Friday the 13th). The kills were gory. I love this movie now


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: 3timesbefore on September 15, 2010, 05:52:24 PM
Them's fightin' words boy!

Seriously, Halloween is not praised because its killer isn't mindless. Halloween is praised because John Carpenter stitched together a brilliant opus. The stylistic differences between Halloween and Friday the 13th are as plain as day.

Eh, I don't know about brilliant, Psycho 1960 was brilliant, and mainly for the plot twists and killer-motivation elements, which grant the film a sense of tragedy that Halloween doesn't have, in my view. I give you that Halloween has more class than most other slasher movies, which does count for a lot. It shares a similarity with Psycho in that both have these gothic houses that hold sinister secrets. But to me, Friday the 13th 1980 - which is also similar to Psycho, this time by way of its music and tragic storyline - does what Halloween could never do, simply by virtue of its setting: provide a sense of isolation that ramps up the fear factor. In Haddonfield help isn't even as far as around the corner, it's right next door, though that one neighbor Laurie pleads to for help ignores her. But they're in a neighborhood filled with people; at the very least they could break into an empty house, lock themselves in and hide from Michael.

In Friday the 13th, they're alone in the wilderness with some kind of Wendigo/campfire tale after them. Only a handful of flimsy cabins protecting them from a thick, dark forest where every tree could be hiding the killer. Plus the film is beautifully shot. The sweeping scenes of the speeding Jeep tearing along narrow roads that slice through lush green countryside that quickly turns to dense woods, the swimming scene where Pamela's prying back branches to peer at them on the dock. Being a nature lover, that just appeals to me more.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on September 15, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
Eh, I don't know about brilliant, Psycho 1960 was brilliant, and mainly for the plot twists and killer-motivation elements, which grant the film a sense of tragedy that Halloween doesn't have, in my view.


In my humble opinion, Psycho is right up there with Pulp Fiction as being one of the most overrated films of all time. Psycho changed the landscape of film, so for that I give it respect. But, as a self-contained narrative within the body of work of Alfred Hitchcock. Eh, it's really not all that special. 

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I give you that Halloween has more class than most other slasher movies, which does count for a lot. It shares a similarity with Psycho in that both have these gothic houses that hold sinister secrets. But to me, Friday the 13th 1980 - which is also similar to Psycho, this time by way of its music and tragic storyline - does what Halloween could never do, simply by virtue of its setting: provide a sense of isolation that ramps up the fear factor. In Haddonfield help isn't even as far as around the corner, it's right next door, though that one neighbor Laurie pleads to for help ignores her. But they're in a neighborhood filled with people; at the very least they could break into an empty house, lock themselves in and hide from Michael.

Gonna have to disagree here. I think Halloween sets up the isolation better than Friday the 13th. In Friday the 13th, people are always in groups. They eventually separate from said group (Ned investigating the cabin, Marcie leaving Jack and going to the bathroom, Brenda trying to help "Jason", etc.), and that's how Mrs. Voorhees got them. But in Halloween, Laurie is pretty much isolated for the entire film. Her only real companionship throughout the night is Tommy and--briefly--Lindsey.

I think that may have been part of the Halloween mystique: That one could be isolated in the middle of Main Street, USA. Also, if we're talking about the Halloween series as a whole, there have been plenty of isolated locations, including Haddonfield Memorial Hospital in Halloween II and the Meeker home in Halloween 4.

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In Friday the 13th, they're alone in the wilderness with some kind of Wendigo/campfire tale after them. Only a handful of flimsy cabins protecting them from a thick, dark forest where every tree could be hiding the killer. Plus the film is beautifully shot. The sweeping scenes of the speeding Jeep tearing along narrow roads that slice through lush green countryside that quickly turns to dense woods, the swimming scene where Pamela's prying back branches to peer at them on the dock. Being a nature lover, that just appeals to me more.

I get what you're saying here, and I agree with it, but I disagree that it applies to Friday the 13th. The canoe trip in The Burning takes the protagonists into the wilderness. But Camp Crystal Lake? There's a town of Crystal Lake, so automatically we know it's not the middle of nowhere. Plus, in the first seven movies--the ones that actually take place on the lake--the characters drive there. A school bus rumbles in in Part VI and Ginny drives to the camp in a Volkswagen Beetle. These are not off-road vehicles.

Yes, being alone in the wilderness does offer a wonderful sense of isolation, but I'm sorry. I just don't think Camp Crystal Lake is as isolated or as in the wilderness as you make it seem.

Yes, the lush green countryside is beautiful, but too beautiful in my opinion. I'd love to see Crystal Lake in fall or winter--when it's much more spooky looking.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: 3timesbefore on September 16, 2010, 12:23:45 AM
In my humble opinion, Psycho is right up there with Pulp Fiction as being one of the most overrated films of all time. Psycho changed the landscape of film, so for that I give it respect. But, as a self-contained narrative within the body of work of Alfred Hitchcock. Eh, it's really not all that special.


Oh, Mother's gonna get you for that. Tsk, tsk.

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Gonna have to disagree here. I think Halloween sets up the isolation better than Friday the 13th. In Friday the 13th, people are always in groups. They eventually separate from said group (Ned investigating the cabin, Marcie leaving Jack and going to the bathroom, Brenda trying to help "Jason", etc.), and that's how Mrs. Voorhees got them. But in Halloween, Laurie is pretty much isolated for the entire film. Her only real companionship throughout the night is Tommy and--briefly--Lindsey.
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Well, for a time Laurie interacts with plenty of people. She's at school, she pals around with Annie and Lynda.

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I think that may have been part of the Halloween mystique: That one could be isolated in the middle of Main Street, USA. Also, if we're talking about the Halloween series as a whole, there have been plenty of isolated locations, including Haddonfield Memorial Hospital in Halloween II and the Meeker home in Halloween 4.
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True, but in the Halloween series the isolated locations are the exception rather than the rule. In Friday, they're the rule. Even when Jason's at Wessex County Hospital morgue the only two we see on duty are Nurse Morgan and Axel, even less people than in Haddonfield Hospital. Usually the action takes place at secluded cabins, summer homes and lodges.

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I get what you're saying here, and I agree with it, but I disagree that it applies to Friday the 13th. The canoe trip in The Burning takes the protagonists into the wilderness. But Camp Crystal Lake? There's a town of Crystal Lake, so automatically we know it's not the middle of nowhere. Plus, in the first seven movies--the ones that actually take place on the lake--the characters drive there. A school bus rumbles in in Part VI and Ginny drives to the camp in a Volkswagen Beetle. These are not off-road vehicles.
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In the first movie we're told that town is twenty miles away from Camp Crystal Lake. And it doesn't really matter if you can take a well paved, even well lit road into the wilderness. If there's trees on all sides of you and town's twenty away, that's isolated. It is true that the area seems less and less isolated with every sequel, but I believe it's mainly what I call The Arriving Crowd effect: we watch as the gang heads towards Higgins Haven in their big van, as well as the packed station wagon full of party house people in The Final Chapter. But really it's just a bunch of people heading off the grid.

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Yes, the lush green countryside is beautiful, but too beautiful in my opinion. I'd love to see Crystal Lake in fall or winter--when it's much more spooky looking.
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I would also love to see that area draped in a blanket of snow, or at least have the whole forest bright yellow in the month of October. Jason could even be back in the lake, with it frozen over. When he's resurrected however he is, he rises to the surface and explodes up through the thick ice. It would be highly cinematic.



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on September 20, 2010, 01:20:39 PM
I don't find anything overrated about Psycho. It is one of the greatest films ever made. Pulp Fiction I do agree is very overrated.

Friday the 13th and Halloween are as different as you can get really. Many people, including the writer of Friday the 13th, consider it a Halloween rip off, and it is because of Halloween that Friday was made, but I also think that Friday has enough originality to stand on it's own two feet.

As popular of a character as Jason is, and I love the character myself, I do feel that the original Friday is the superior film in the entire series. Parts 2-4 come very close though.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on September 23, 2010, 09:56:30 PM
I don't find anything overrated about Psycho. It is one of the greatest films ever made. Pulp Fiction I do agree is very overrated.

Friday the 13th and Halloween are as different as you can get really. Many people, including the writer of Friday the 13th, consider it a Halloween rip off, and it is because of Halloween that Friday was made, but I also think that Friday has enough originality to stand on it's own two feet.

As popular of a character as Jason is, and I love the character myself, I do feel that the original Friday is the superior film in the entire series. Parts 2-4 come very close though.


Even though Pulp Fiction is one of my favorite movies, I do have to agree it isn't as remarkable and amazing as everyone says it is. I'm gulity of the overratedness too though lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on September 23, 2010, 10:35:33 PM

Even though Pulp Fiction is one of my favorite movies, I do have to agree it isn't as remarkable and amazing as everyone says it is. I'm gulity of the overratedness too though lol

Oh, don't get me wrong, I like both Pulp Fiction as Psycho, but I think movies like Jackie Brown, Reservoir Dogs, Inglorious Basterds and Death Proof, and North by Northwest, Rope, Marine (no, really), and Vertigo are better.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on September 23, 2010, 10:47:42 PM
Oh, don't get me wrong, I like both Pulp Fiction as Psycho, but I think movies like Jackie Brown, Reservoir Dogs, Inglorious Basterds and Death Proof, and North by Northwest, Rope, Marine (no, really), and Vertigo are better.

Jackie Brown doesn't get the respect it deserves it's the last thing that comes to your head when you think of Quentin Tarantino


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on September 24, 2010, 10:12:00 AM
Jackie Brown doesn't get the respect it deserves it's the last thing that comes to your head when you think of Quentin Tarantino

It's the first thing to come to my mind. It' his masterpiece.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on September 25, 2010, 09:07:07 AM
It's the first thing to come to my mind. It' his masterpiece.

Jackie Brown has to be one of my favorites


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Twistedfool on September 25, 2010, 11:02:04 PM
its wierd, when I was 6 I couldn't look at the screen because I was too scared, a while back my friends were falling asleep during the 3rd act. Diffrent generation. ANyway, I love all the Fridays, part 1 is special cause it was the first and set the standard. Certa asin scenes still stick out in my mind as creepy,

Alice hiding in the cubart, Mrs Vorheese right outside in the kitchen fumbling around, then silence, focus on the doornob slowly turning left and right.

The audience knowing more  then the charicter, its something lost in todays movies. Subtle little scenes that drawn you in and make you want to yell at the screen.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Twistedfool on September 25, 2010, 11:05:45 PM
As far as overrated classics go, that a whole other ball of wax, simply put it is what you make it. Somepeople love the subtlness of Halloween, some fall asleep during the first act. it depends on the person, somepeople hate family guy cause they think all the jokes are interchangable and the plot is paper thin. Others like the simple. Its all a matter of personal opinions


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on October 26, 2010, 02:40:59 PM
I have stated on other boards how I don't think the original Friday the 13th always gets its just due. It had plenty of suspense, yet it also had the bloody punchlines on every kill. Savini's work on that film was absolutely amazing!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on December 20, 2010, 02:22:16 PM
Watched this one again last week. LOVE the look and feel. We discussed before how it starts all sunny and nice that morning, then it turns into a nightmare, weather-wise as well as the horror.   Ned checked out way too soon. He was annoying, but damn, he went FAST!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 20, 2010, 11:22:30 PM
Watched this one again last week. LOVE the look and feel. We discussed before how it starts all sunny and nice that morning, then it turns into a nightmare, weather-wise as well as the horror.   Ned checked out way too soon. He was annoying, but damn, he went FAST!
F13th is a classic , IMO !!
the fun and games of daytime leading up to the storm rolling in was brilliant . a major sense of impending doom ..

i liked Ned and thought he should've been killed off later in the movie . he was the comedy in pt1 , much like Ted in pr2 .



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 22, 2010, 11:42:54 AM
F13th is a classic , IMO !!
the fun and games of daytime leading up to the storm rolling in was brilliant . a major sense of impending doom ..

i liked Ned and thought he should've been killed off later in the movie . he was the comedy in pt1 , much like Ted in pr2 .



Agreed on all counts, Hesvor. Well, except for Ned, he got on my nerves a little, but was by and large a fun character.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 22, 2010, 11:21:49 PM
Agreed on all counts, Hesvor. Well, except for Ned, he got on my nerves a little, but was by and large a fun character.

yeah ned kinda annoyed me too.. his nose bugged me lol.. but he was a good goofball... wish we got to see what happened to him when he entered that cabin..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 22, 2010, 11:37:13 PM
Agreed on all counts, Hesvor. Well, except for Ned, he got on my nerves a little, but was by and large a fun character.
fair enough !! lol
he was a joker type for sure , but not my fav in the movie . although jimmyd also raises a good point in his last post here .....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 22, 2010, 11:41:19 PM
yeah ned kinda annoyed me too.. his nose bugged me lol.. but he was a good goofball... wish we got to see what happened to him when he entered that cabin..
y'know jimmyd , i always wished that too !
i think it would be interesting to see a character like Ned , who's an obvious big kid at heart , put into a serious/deadly situation .

how would the practicle joker react when facing a life or death moment , when he possibly realizes that his own mortality is threatened ?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on December 24, 2010, 11:42:16 AM
Has anyone been to the location where part 1 was filmed??


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 24, 2010, 10:29:53 PM
y'know jimmyd , i always wished that too !
i think it would be interesting to see a character like Ned , who's an obvious big kid at heart , put into a serious/deadly situation .

how would the practicle joker react when facing a life or death moment , when he possibly realizes that his own mortality is threatened ?

See, I've never even thought about that for no other reason than I figure that he was dead way before he had time to realize what sort of situation he was in. I figure right after he stepped into that cabin and said "Hello?" or "Is somebody here?" or whatever he said, he got took out. I got about 99.999% certainty that Ned never knew what was happening.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 25, 2010, 09:30:36 AM
See, I've never even thought about that for no other reason than I figure that he was dead way before he had time to realize what sort of situation he was in. I figure right after he stepped into that cabin and said "Hello?" or "Is somebody here?" or whatever he said, he got took out. I got about 99.999% certainty that Ned never knew what was happening.
1st of all brother Jet , Merry Christmas !! best wishes to you and yours ....

you're almost certainly right about how Ned got taken out in the cabin . jimmyd made a remark about wishing that we got to see what happened , and i had always wondered and wanted the same .

cheers :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 25, 2010, 09:38:27 AM
1st of all brother Jet , Merry Christmas !! best wishes to you and yours ....

you're almost certainly right about how Ned got taken out in the cabin . jimmyd made a remark about wishing that we got to see what happened , and i had always wondered and wanted the same .

cheers :)

Same to you, hope everyone got what they wanted.

Honestly, Ned dying without ever really getting a hint as to what was going on was really the only way it could've been done. If they had had him go Baby or go Rambo neither would've worked with the character. Plus, it probably saved a LOT of money on the  FX.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on January 11, 2011, 11:52:08 PM
I love the way Ned's death is set up, they're having sex without knowing their dead friend is about 4 feet above them


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on January 11, 2011, 11:59:13 PM
Haha yeah..just the thought of that happening..creeps me out lol...creeped me out to the point where I always chose the top bunk as a kid so I knew there would be no chance of that happening lol...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on January 30, 2011, 10:05:59 PM
How could they have not seen Ned's corpse on the top bunk?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on January 30, 2011, 10:38:42 PM
Lol for reals..they're taller than the bunks and he wasn't blocked all that well either..they were too focused on bangin anyways lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on January 30, 2011, 10:42:28 PM
I dunno, I always check my surroundings, even when horny or drinkin. LOL


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: random guy on January 30, 2011, 10:51:47 PM
I dunno, I always check my surroundings, even when horny or drinkin. LOL

when im drunk i could walk into the sea and not notice


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 31, 2011, 12:15:34 PM
I dunno, I always check my surroundings, even when horny or drinkin. LOL

Dude, did you get a good look at Marcie? Believe me, it would've been hard as hell for the Jet to focus on anything but her!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on February 04, 2011, 09:31:11 PM
i like all the females in pt1.. theyre all... real lookin .. if that makes sense ;p;


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 05, 2011, 10:51:18 AM
i like all the females in pt1.. theyre all... real lookin .. if that makes sense ;p;
it makes perfect sense , jimmyd !
pt1 and pt2 had very 'normal' types , IMO

it was in pt3 (also IMO ! lol) that they started to go a bit off in placing too much emphasis on covering all the bases - so to speak .
the greasers, the stoners , the jock , the girl next door , etc....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on February 05, 2011, 11:42:27 AM
it makes perfect sense , jimmyd !
pt1 and pt2 had very 'normal' types , IMO

it was in pt3 (also IMO ! lol) that they started to go a bit off in placing too much emphasis on covering all the bases - so to speak .
the greasers, the stoners , the jock , the girl next door , etc....

Yeah, they did manage to somehow get the most unrealistically diverse group of white kids available didn't they?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: slasherfan on March 30, 2011, 02:32:54 PM
I saw this one after seeing part 3 in the movie theatre.  I thought that it was a little too simple in terms of the body count.  I was sorta surprised that Kevin Bacon was playing amateur weatherman. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on March 30, 2011, 11:16:32 PM
LOL.. And his extensive training on the "emergency genorator" lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: AnnieCooks on May 06, 2011, 10:39:41 PM
I saw this one after seeing part 3 in the movie theatre.  I thought that it was a little too simple in terms of the body count.  I was sorta surprised that Kevin Bacon was playing amateur weatherman. 

I always thought Jack should have rolled his eyes, or gave a funny look when Marcie was so serious about her dream.  Guess he really loved her.  Makes it all the more romantic they died soon after sharing a glorious moment together.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on May 06, 2011, 11:23:43 PM
Ya jack and Marcie were a good couple...along with jeff and Sandra from PMT...they looked like they could have been a real couples...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: AnnieCooks on May 09, 2011, 06:56:10 PM
Ned and Brenda had a flirtation going on.  Brenda might have wanted to hook with Bill and Alice also...at the same time.  but we had lots of underlying sexuality ready to explode. 

Alice and Steve had this weird vibe going on, but then she also seemed to like Bill.
Bill mostly liked to hack random weeds waiting for call to help kill a snake.
Even Steve could have gotten laid at the diner.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on May 16, 2011, 10:02:11 AM
This is a Bad thing too say


I love the Classics But I didn't go uch on the first Friday the 13th

I know sad But it is My opinion.

SAD!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: coolj712 on May 16, 2011, 05:02:51 PM
i thougt this one was an awesome start to the series


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on May 17, 2011, 07:00:49 AM
I know it was great but so were the Others.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 03, 2011, 07:01:21 PM
Kinda surprised we don't have one of these...actually all I could find was 6, 3 & 4 dicussion topics..

Anyhow, lets discuss the Friday The 13th that started it all!

To be honest, it took me a really long time to get into this movie. I really didn't like it much for years and years. Its probably only been within the last 6-7yrs that I've started liking it...perhaps even 5-4yrs. The more I watch it the more I like it.

What didn't I like? I dunno, I can't really pinpoint it. I think that it not being Jason was a major thing for my teenage mind back then. The old rough look of the film (now with DVD thats gone) I never had a problem with any of the characters, actually for the longest time none of them really stuck out to me. Now I like them all a bit better.

I had no problem with a female killer.  Strangely, I don't really like or dislike the movie. I had a problem with the lousy dialogue, bujt the dream about the rain stood out in my mind.

The first time I watched this, I was anywhere between the age of 2-5 so I cannot recall my first impression of the film. But to those of you who can please share it with us.

How did you feel when you found out it was a female killer? I know there are people out there who hate that type of twist to a film. I think the major throw off, was when we did see parts of the killer it did look like a man...where in other films you get a small glimps and you might have an idea that its a woman


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on June 05, 2011, 07:19:36 AM
I like Pamela Voohees acting In this one. and her lines where funny as.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 05, 2011, 03:44:28 PM
I like Pamela Voohees acting In this one. and her lines where funny as.

Funny as what?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 05, 2011, 05:48:50 PM
I like how we don't find out till the end that its JVs mommy till the end...cause so many people who saw later friday13. Films first were surprised and or let down that JV wasn't the killer...but to those who saw them in order love it...her portrayal of Pamela was memorable...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on June 05, 2011, 10:10:13 PM
Funny as what?
lol Shuttle must be from down under. 'Funny as' is another way of saying 'that was really funny'. Shit that probably didn't explain it haha


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on June 06, 2011, 06:36:42 AM
lol Shuttle must be from down under. 'Funny as' is another way of saying 'that was really funny'. Shit that probably didn't explain it haha

It is the stupid way of saying "that was really funny"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ZombieKeeper on July 04, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
I'm of the opinion its the best in the whole series. While not an original idea for a film, its the best executed.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on July 04, 2011, 01:26:35 PM
I'm of the opinion its the best in the whole series. While not an original idea for a film, its the best executed.

It's definitely a great film, and has to be considered one of the greatest of all time in the slasher genre.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ZombieKeeper on July 05, 2011, 07:03:16 PM
It's definitely a great film, and has to be considered one of the greatest of all time in the slasher genre.

I would agree. Did you know that prior to this, Sean Cunningham was a distributor for a film called Twitch of the Death Nerve (an Italian slasher shot by famed director Mario Bava)? Friday the 13th was penned and shot off the premise of Twitch, but obviously did much better  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 06, 2011, 06:56:10 AM
I would agree. Did you know that prior to this, Sean Cunningham was a distributor for a film called Twitch of the Death Nerve (an Italian slasher shot by famed director Mario Bava)? Friday the 13th was penned and shot off the premise of Twitch, but obviously did much better  ;D

It sure set the tone for the slasher genre.  How many other movies were copied THIS MUCH?  And I'm sure I'll get a big list from someone.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on July 07, 2011, 01:04:12 PM
It sure set the tone for the slasher genre.  How many other movies were copied THIS MUCH?  And I'm sure I'll get a big list from someone.

Well, when you consider that Friday the 13th itself was a copy of Halloween.........


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 07, 2011, 03:29:51 PM
Well, when you consider that Friday the 13th itself was a copy of Halloween.........

Which still didn't have the impact F13 did, and it was a copy of others.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: DeathCurse03 on July 22, 2011, 03:23:24 AM
    I was probably about 3 or 4 when I first saw F13, (Jason Lives was the first as far as I recall and memories get blurry going that far back), and it was really intriguing to me right from the start. I watched that and The Shining around the same time, kind of ironic that they were both made in the same year and were originally released around(or on) the same date, and I unintentionally experienced both films for the first time, together, some 13-14 years after.

    Even though I didn`t fully understand it at the time, I was immediately captivated by the simplicity of the film itself. Everything from the ominous uncertainty of the opening scenes and the simple yet maniacal credit sequence to the short but sweet editing cuts of the kill scenes which allowed me to perceive my own interpretations of the outcome of the victims, whether off-screen or not. The white fade at the end of every kill sequence was an effective touch for that time period, highly suitable for the first few films in the series. I think they stopped using it around part 2 or 3? (The transition from Mark flying down the stairs in his wheelchair to Jeff and Sandra having sex in part 2 comes to mind as one of the last).

   The characters were convincing and I actually did feel bad for most of them when they met their demise, especially Brenda, disturbed from the tranquil respite of her paperback in the dead of night, only to be lured out into a cold and torrential downpour to be butchered somewhere off the record within the shadows of Camp Blood.The rest of the characters complimented each other well, appropriate for the time period and maintaining a believable sense of ignorance to all that was occurring around them.Marcy`s recollection of her childhood dream,(blood raining down and washing away in little rivers) is a great chilling piece of dialogue.

   The soul survivor Alice was portrayed in a relatively vulnerable way throughout the film and although she did act as the heroine in the final scenes, her character was never transformed into a phony emotionless combat queen after being exposed to all of the vicious acts of murder done onto her fellow counselors. She withheld that sense of vulnerability genuinely i think, like any sane red blooded human being would do if put in such a situation.She felt an ongoing sorrow for her friends that had been slaughtered and she was equally and legitimately terrified for her own life.

   Onto the reveal of the short-lived yet iconic Mrs Pamela Voorhees who kept us in suspense until the moment she stepped out from the imposing gleam of Steve Christys jeep in a heavy wool sweater, in the middle of a stormy summer night in June. Even at 4 years old I knew immediately at that moment that she was the unknown assailant that had been picking off the unsuspecting counselors throughout, but I assume by that point in the film Sean S. Cunningham didn`t mind exposing the obvious anyway, the unfolding cat and mouse sequence between Alice and Mrs Voorhees and ultimately the legendary beheading scene being the primary focus. The fact that this dominating psychopath turned out to be female did not grab me as unusual, as I had not yet been introduced to the slasher genre where the majority of the time it was a male committing the murders. However, I think, as almost anyone, I was disappointed that Jason wasn`t the killer in this film - or anyone wearing a mask and coveralls for that matter - but with time I have managed to appreciate, and now fully enjoy Mrs Voorhees and her role as the psychopath in F13.

   I cant finish this post without briefly touching on the subject of Jason`s famous unexpected (or not) appearance in the lake at the end of the film and the impact that it had on me the first time and the present day. Well the first time I believe it undoubtedly scared the shit out of me but probably not as much as it had my mother and her friends a decade or so before. Back then I didn`t assess it as a hokey implement of last minute scare, or a prelude to several months of nonstop visits to the nightmare factory but rather just something I hadn`t seen much of before, having only selectively glimpsed at some of the cheese that my parents had rented from the nearest Super A Video. It was  just simply strange seeing a young boy covered in rotting flesh jumping out of a lake when calm synthesized music played out only seconds prior. After all, F13 was likely the first horror film that I had sat and watched in its entirety at that point. It was something new, it had a big bold (formerly forbidden) R rating stamped on its back, it for whatever reason naturally appealed to my tastes and at four years old, that was more than enough for me.
From a now somewhat seasoned horror (or at least F13) aficionados point of view, it still serves as an important final highlight in the film, an effective way of leaving the door open for more potential long nights at Camp Blood. I still do look forward to it even though it may have become a tad stale as it presents itself yet again for the 4556th-57th? time.

   It`s the little things, the things they didn`t show you, or that unintentionally made you laugh, unintentionally seeped into your brain forever. The content that wasn`t profoundly shoved down your throat but instead given in reserved doses of suspenseful good taste that made F13 a truly unforgettable classic horror film. Same could be said - and will be said - about John CarpentersHalloween. I also have to give credit to what they did show you, highly memorable FX by Tom Savini that have seared permanently into my minds eye and continue to fester and writhe there to this very day. In my opinion good old fashioned prop effects beat the hell out of  CGI any day and Tom pulled this off superbly in F13 - I never let the eye flinching fiasco of Bill weigh down my opinion on that, for me it only added to the intended effect of absolute torment that the character was likely feeling.

   My mother and I, both avid horror fanatics still continue to this day to laugh and crack jokes about the psychopathic Ooo`s and Ahhh`s - and periodic remembrances to "my only child...Jason" - of Mrs. Voorhees, (Portrayed by the one and only Betsy Palmer) and the easily dismissed warnings of Crazy Ralph and Enos the truck driver. Oh yeah and silly old head in the clouds, stuck in the rain, "What are you doing out in this mess?" Steve Christy too! Great Film all around! I`m gonna go watch it again now....

                        -DeathCurse03-  :emomyers:



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on July 22, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
Which still didn't have the impact F13 did, and it was a copy of others.

Whoa, hold on, player. What do you mean Halloween didn't have the impact of Friday the 13th? Halloween created Friday the 13th, so any impact Friday made is actually an aftershock of Halloween.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 22, 2011, 12:10:44 PM
Whoa, hold on, player. What do you mean Halloween didn't have the impact of Friday the 13th? Halloween created Friday the 13th, so any impact Friday made is actually an aftershock of Halloween.

Well yeah, but a lot of people see F13 as being just a wee bit more recognizable.   


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on July 22, 2011, 03:50:25 PM
Well yeah, but a lot of people see F13 as being just a wee bit more recognizable.   

Because the market was saturated with Friday the 13th films, whereas Halloween was, for the most part, a much rarer treat. It's kind of like this: More people recognize Hershey's Kisses than Ferrero Rocher, but there's no denying the Rocher is better.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 22, 2011, 06:00:15 PM
Because the market was saturated with Friday the 13th films, whereas Halloween was, for the most part, a much rarer treat. It's kind of like this: More people recognize Hershey's Kisses than Ferrero Rocher, but there's no denying the Rocher is better.

It depends on your taste buds.  Anyway, that's all she wrote.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on July 22, 2011, 06:19:35 PM
 The soul survivor Alice was portrayed in a relatively vulnerable way throughout the film and although she did act as the heroine in the final scenes, her character was never transformed into a phony emotionless combat queen after being exposed to all of the vicious acts of murder done onto her fellow counselors. She withheld that sense of vulnerability genuinely i think, like any sane red blooded human being would do if put in such a situation.She felt an ongoing sorrow for her friends that had been slaughtered and she was equally and legitimately terrified for her own life.
Ahh yes! This is one thing that has always bugged me in slasher films. It just seems unrealistic (unless they are experience martial artists or w/e) to go from regular teen to psycho-killer who can take down men twice their size...same for when characters seem to show no emotion or afterthought when they discover that their friends are dead. Idk I would think, in that situation, your mind would be all over the place. It's something that I never realized when I first started watching part 1, I always thought the character of Alice, especially towards the end was just annoying and weak..thinking about it now, it is a more realistic portrayal of 'the final girl'.

I think that's why my top two final girls are Alice and Chris, they just seem legit freaked out by the whole ordeal and you never feel like they escaped with their lives by some bs miracle - seeing as Pamela and Jason in pt.3 were very much human/vulnerable, there was some chance of survival for the victims.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 22, 2011, 06:23:35 PM
Ahh yes! This is one thing that has always bugged me in slasher films. It just seems unrealistic (unless they are experience martial artists or w/e) to go from regular teen to psycho-killer who can take down men twice their size...same for when characters seem to show no emotion or afterthought when they discover that their friends are dead. Idk I would think, in that situation, your mind would be all over the place. It's something that I never realized when I first started watching part 1, I always thought the character of Alice, especially towards the end was just annoying and weak..thinking about it now, it is a more realistic portrayal of 'the final girl'.

I think that's why my top two final girls are Alice and Chris, they just seem legit freaked out by the whole ordeal and you never feel like they escaped with their lives by some bs miracle - seeing as Pamela and Jason in pt.3 were very much human/vulnerable, there was some chance of survival for the victims.

So when does the survival instinct kick in?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on July 25, 2011, 03:08:45 PM
I would think different people would have different reactions.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 25, 2011, 03:40:35 PM
I would think different people would have different reactions.

Some people fight; others crawl into a shell.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 25, 2011, 04:45:02 PM
Team Stalker again. (And I swear I'm not stalking you...)

Yeah, H came first...and I like it more...but it kind of goes without saying F13 has had a way bigger impact. It doesn't matter who or what it ripped of. It is it's own entity and is, without question, more well known and more of a cult classic than H can dream of being. True facts.  8)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 25, 2011, 06:22:08 PM
Team Stalker again. (And I swear I'm not stalking you...)

Yeah, H came first...and I like it more...but it kind of goes without saying F13 has had a way bigger impact. It doesn't matter who or what it ripped of. It is it's own entity and is, without question, more well known and more of a cult classic than H can dream of being. True facts.  8)

I'm glad you're not stalking me.  But, I wouldn't take it personally if you did.  BTW, H and F13 ripped off movies that came before.  But who cares?  We love them anyway.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on August 14, 2011, 02:43:40 PM
The whole Halloween vs. Friday the 13th discussion has been taking place for the past thirty years and we basucally say the same things over and over again. Friday the 13th created the term slasher film and made gore mainstream while being structured after Halloween.

I think the real fact is that there would be no Halloween without Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho and there would be no Psycho without the real life psychopath Ed Gein. So, the slasher genre finds it's roots in a real life monster so really it was Ed Gein who gave birth to the slasher genre. If it weren't for him there would be no Psycho and if it weren't for Psycho there would be no Halloween and so on.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 14, 2011, 08:16:08 PM
The whole Halloween vs. Friday the 13th discussion has been taking place for the past thirty years and we basucally say the same things over and over again. Friday the 13th created the term slasher film and made gore mainstream while being structured after Halloween.

I think the real fact is that there would be no Halloween without Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho and there would be no Psycho without the real life psychopath Ed Gein. So, the slasher genre finds it's roots in a real life monster so really it was Ed Gein who gave birth to the slasher genre. If it weren't for him there would be no Psycho and if it weren't for Psycho there would be no Halloween and so on.

i guess we can thank Ed's mother for screwing him up so bad.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on August 15, 2011, 05:43:53 AM
The whole Halloween vs. Friday the 13th discussion has been taking place for the past thirty years and we basucally say the same things over and over again. Friday the 13th created the term slasher film and made gore mainstream while being structured after Halloween.

I think the real fact is that there would be no Halloween without Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho and there would be no Psycho without the real life psychopath Ed Gein. So, the slasher genre finds it's roots in a real life monster so really it was Ed Gein who gave birth to the slasher genre. If it weren't for him there would be no Psycho and if it weren't for Psycho there would be no Halloween and so on.

And no Texas Chainsaw Massacre either. There would be no horror film, were it not for the real life horrors people commit on each other. I won't debate against that point, because it's just a truth.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 15, 2011, 12:37:17 PM
And no Texas Chainsaw Massacre either. There would be no horror film, were it not for the real life horrors people commit on each other. I won't debate against that point, because it's just a truth.

You got that right!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on August 24, 2011, 11:07:20 PM
Watched this one once again the other night and once again, had a damn good time. This was one of my least faves as a kid, but I really like it more now that I'm older. i really could've been a one shot movie with zero sequels.

I did start laughing at how f'n batshit crazy Pamela is in the final scenes. The way she gradually starts showing signs of being a psycho, even though its not THAT gradual.


Rewatchability.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Marie on August 25, 2011, 09:23:16 AM
Not gradual at all, she could have introduced herself as Psycho Pam.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on August 25, 2011, 10:04:59 AM
Not gradual at all, she could have introduced herself as Psycho Pam.

LOL, now I'm picturing Al Bundy in his cowboy hat sitting in front of the TV:

"Who's that mom with the itchy gun? Who's that mom that kills for fun? Psycho Pam! PSYCHO PAM! She's a durn good maw, and she'll kill them all!"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 25, 2011, 10:05:35 AM
Not gradual at all, she could have introduced herself as Psycho Pam.

Of course, Alice would have known right away something was wrong.  She was already a bit leery.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on August 25, 2011, 10:24:48 AM
Of course, Alice would have known right away something was wrong.  She was already a bit leery.

LOL, gee, it's like someone she doesn't know showing up at random while someone she can't see has killed all her friends might have freaked her out or something?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 25, 2011, 11:18:40 AM
LOL, gee, it's like someone she doesn't know showing up at random while someone she can't see has killed all her friends might have freaked her out or something?

It's a case of " How'd this person know to show up?"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Marie on August 25, 2011, 11:23:16 AM
I think at that point I wouldn't even trust a cop who showed up...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 25, 2011, 11:50:11 AM
I think at that point I wouldn't even trust a cop who showed up...
Even Officer Dorff?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Marie on August 25, 2011, 11:51:57 AM
Even Officer Dorff?

I only trust Ralph.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 25, 2011, 12:43:55 PM
I only trust Ralph.

There's a reliable source.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Marie on August 25, 2011, 01:54:46 PM
There's a reliable source.

Well, so far, he's the only one who's ever right!

Wait...I stand corrected. I'd also trust that ship hand on the cruise to Manhatten.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on August 26, 2011, 11:52:31 AM
Even Officer Dorff?

Especially not Dorff!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 26, 2011, 12:16:55 PM
Well, so far, he's the only one who's ever right!

Wait...I stand corrected. I'd also trust that ship hand on the cruise to Manhatten.

And what happened to THOSE guys????


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 26, 2011, 12:17:53 PM
Especially not Dorff!

You think he might be out smoking some Columbian Gold?  Can you dig it????


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on August 26, 2011, 12:44:08 PM
You think he might be out smoking some Columbian Gold?  Can you dig it????

LOL, he always came across weird to me. And not "fun" weird, but more like "I have sex with hookers instead of arresting them, then kill them and bury their bodies out by the lake" weird.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 26, 2011, 01:10:48 PM
LOL, he always came across weird to me. And not "fun" weird, but more like "I have sex with hookers instead of arresting them, then kill them and bury their bodies out by the lake" weird.

He struck me as the kind of guy who took his job too seriously because it's all he had, and he went home to live with his 80 year old mother.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on August 27, 2011, 11:26:09 AM
He struck me as the kind of guy who took his job too seriously because it's all he had, and he went home to live with his 80 year old mother.

Probably the first one he killed, lol.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Marie on August 27, 2011, 12:59:23 PM
He struck me as the kind of guy who took his job too seriously because it's all he had, and he went home to live with his 80 year old mother.

I think we have a winner. I bet that's exactly what he did.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 27, 2011, 03:31:53 PM
I think we have a winner. I bet that's exactly what he did.
Pretty creepy, don't you think?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on August 27, 2011, 10:03:17 PM
LOL, Dorf was a 'that guy' type of officer. I've talked about 'that guy' before in another thread, the one who takes himself and his authority way too seriously, gives people a hassle just because he can, and makes it harder for his coworkers. I work with a whole lot of Dorfs.  ::)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 28, 2011, 04:42:41 PM
LOL, Dorf was a 'that guy' type of officer. I've talked about 'that guy' before in another thread, the one who takes himself and his authority way too seriously, gives people a hassle just because he can, and makes it harder for his coworkers. I work with a whole lot of Dorfs.  ::)
Man, do I know THAT feeling.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on August 28, 2011, 11:27:31 PM
Would it have been better if you had seen Mrs. V in an earlier scene, like at the diner that Annie stopped by, or the one with the sexy redhead waitress?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on August 29, 2011, 01:25:51 AM
Would it have been better if you had seen Mrs. V in an earlier scene, like at the diner that Annie stopped by, or the one with the sexy redhead waitress?

Nah, because if they did that, they would've overdid it, and then the ending payoff would've been a lot less awesome. Betsy turning up where she did was the only way to make it work as perfectly as it did.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on September 02, 2011, 03:53:20 PM
I'm with Jet. I like the fact that they never showed her until the scene where she pops up in the last act.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on September 03, 2011, 01:51:32 AM
If she had walked in when Annie was there, and everyone had suddenly stopped talking, it would have been a big hint what was up.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on September 05, 2011, 08:10:08 PM
Mrs. Voorhees worked in this movie so well simply because she was the last thing you would ever expect. When she first shows up in the movie she seems like such a nice old lady. She could have been one of those people in the diner who saw Annie eariler and decided to be a good semeritan and check up on the people at the camp just to make sure they were all okay. But when she started to act like a psycho that is when I was shocked the most because the first time I ever saw the movie I never ever expected her to be the killer.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on September 06, 2011, 07:13:28 AM
Mrs. Voorhees worked in this movie so well simply because she was the last thing you would ever expect. When she first shows up in the movie she seems like such a nice old lady. She could have been one of those people in the diner who saw Annie eariler and decided to be a good semeritan and check up on the people at the camp just to make sure they were all okay. But when she started to act like a psycho that is when I was shocked the most because the first time I ever saw the movie I never ever expected her to be the killer.

Of course, the fact that she showed up when she did was a big hint.  It's like, " How did she know to show up here, and at this time?"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on September 06, 2011, 10:38:23 AM
Of course, the fact that she showed up when she did was a big hint.  It's like, " How did she know to show up here, and at this time?"

Sean Cunningham said in a DVD extra in the box set that they had Betsy pop up when she did so she couldn't be anyone but the killer. That worked so well on every level for me.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on September 06, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
Sean Cunningham said in a DVD extra in the box set that they had Betsy pop up when she did so she couldn't be anyone but the killer. That worked so well on every level for me.
Process of elimination showed who the killer was.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on September 07, 2011, 11:46:23 AM
Process of elimination showed who the killer was.

Actually, right up until Betsy showed up, there were a lot of people who thought it was Ralph. (Personally, I wouldn't have chosen Ralph as a killer, he's too obvious.)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on September 07, 2011, 01:12:16 PM
The first time I ever saw the movie I was expecting it to be Jason because of popular culture. I was shocked when it was actually his mother. In 1980 I definitely would have thought it was Ralph or perhaps tha fat truck driver that drove Annie to her death.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on September 07, 2011, 05:30:06 PM
Actually, right up until Betsy showed up, there were a lot of people who thought it was Ralph. (Personally, I wouldn't have chosen Ralph as a killer, he's too obvious.)

Which is why Pamela was a better choice.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on September 07, 2011, 09:33:25 PM
Which is why Pamela was a better choice.

Totally.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on September 08, 2011, 01:47:49 PM
Totally.
Great minds think alike.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jason V on September 20, 2011, 01:58:52 PM
The original F13 is of course one of the best in the series even though Jason isnt the killer. But Pamela Voorhees is just so classy and legendary and its not like she replaced Jason (Now that would have been bad), Jason replaced her. While I am writing this I was just realizing that Kevin Williamson turned that concept on its head in Scream where in the 1st movie Billy Loomis was the killer while in the second film its his mother. Ha never realized that little turned F13-dynamic in there.

Even though Jason isnt the killer in this film there are several things about the original which make it so good nontheless:

-the atmosphere
-Harry Manfredinis music
-Tom Savinis FX
-Adrienne King and Betsy Palmer

I have recently begun another F13 DVD-marathon (next up is Part 4) and got to see the original again. Cant believe that this movie is over 30 years old already. Its an immortal classic.

Rating: 8/10


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Kat on September 24, 2011, 01:06:53 PM
The first time I ever saw the movie I was expecting it to be Jason because of popular culture. I was shocked when it was actually his mother. In 1980 I definitely would have thought it was Ralph or perhaps tha fat truck driver that drove Annie to her death.

I remember thinking that Ralph and Steve were good suspects, but I never thought of Enos lol!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jason V on September 24, 2011, 02:43:54 PM
I knew that Mrs. Voorhees was the killer before I watched the original thanks to the opening sequence in Scream lol. So I experienced it in a completely different way than someone who didnt know that it was her. That also makes the original movie different then the sequels cause in the original you dont really know who the killer is. Its a guessing game like the Scream films (And I am sure Williamson based Scream on that particular concept of the original F13, which he emphasized even more on Scream 2 by again making the mother the killer. The end of Scream 2 is almost identical to the end of F13 with Mrs.Loomis basically being Mrs. Voorhees and Sidney being Alice)

But me I never experienced F13 that way bc I always knew it was Pamela.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on September 25, 2011, 07:06:27 PM
Great minds think alike.
count me in on that too !

Pamela was a perfect choice , and not showing her until the final act , was a brilliant move by Cunningham .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Jet on September 26, 2011, 04:09:40 AM
You know, I hadn't ever really thought about the Friday/Friday 2 to Scream/Scream 2 correlation until you pointed it out, Jason V. Good eye.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: RK0325 on October 14, 2011, 02:02:57 AM
I have been a fan of the horror genre and was able to watch those movies since my early teens, since the early 90s. However, I started with movies like "Carrie", "The Shining", "It", "The Silence of the Lambs", etc. I don't know remember what made me decide to go to my Blockbuster and rent one of the original "Friday the 13th" but I remember it was during the summer of 1996 and I was working that night and something triggered in my brain to pick up a scary movie from one of the famous series. So, after work, I went to Blockbuster and picked up the original "Friday the 13th". It was around 10pm that I got out of work that night and my parents and sister were down at the shore so no one was home. I also believe that the VCR in my room was broken and so was my parents and I had to watch the movie in my sister's room. I do remember thinking that I was going to watch a scary movie in a big house and with nobody home. I don't recall if it was exactly "Friday the 13th" I was looking to rent or also "Halloween" and/or "Nightmare on Elm Street". However, I picked up "Friday the 13th" and finally went back to my big empty house and watched "Friday the 13th" in my sister's room. I was happy to watch it and watched it, knowing that it was not real and I will admit I was in more shock and awe at the end of the movie when I found out who the killer was because I thought it was Jason, because growing up in the 80s, all you really heard about was Freddie and Jason and kids dressing up as them for Halloween. Then, I held off a little and I believe on November 1, 1996, I remembered about "Halloween", of course because of the holiday and I ended up going to another Blockbuster in a neighboring town and I rented "Halloween" there. I have seen these movies several times over and the sequels in the series. I remember going to the Suncoast at a Mall near my house (of course, I am from Jersey) and buying each VHS tape there... they usually were about $9.99 and possibly there was a deal, like a "Buy 2, get one free" or something like that... because I would have taken advantage of the deal. A funny fact about me ... the movies in the series that I like the best are the ones where the killer is not the iconic killer like Jason or Michael...for example my second favorite "Friday the 13th" is "A New Beginning"... the original is my favorite because I was able to visit the Camp last Friday the 13th. That was another thing, when I found out that the original was filmed in Blairstown, New Jersey, which is an hour to an hour and half away North West from me, I knew that I wanted to visit the camp. Not only did I attend a wonderful tour, I also met many like minded friends who I cherish very much. Also, in the original, Jason was not the killer. My favorite "Halloween" is "Season of the Witch". Another side story, when I was about 9 or 10, I did see "Jason Lives", my babysitter brought over a VHS with it on and I was able to watch it. However, I will not say that was the beginning of my watching the series, especially since "Jason Lives" is one of my least favorites, however, I have been watching it a little more, so I am trying to like it a little more. Thanks for reading... I can't believe it has been 15 years already since I have been watching this series.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: RK0325 on October 14, 2011, 02:33:34 AM
I also see that there is a conversation of possible killers and I am going to throw my two cents in. Of course, in my previous post, I thought Jason was the killer the first time I watched the original. Now, watching the movie for over ten years and getting back into the series, I began thinking if I saw this for the first time in 1980 who would I think was the killer? I brought up Crazy Ralph and Steve because I saw it mentioned somewhere on the internet... then I watched the movie more closer and I noticed that Steve and Pamela both drove a very similiar Jeep and when Steve left the camp to run his errands and we see the Jeep pick up Annie ... I probably thought it would be Steve, especially because he returned back to camp later in the movie and it was night fall already. However, I see some people mentioned Enos... when Annie entered the Jeep she said "hi", kind of like she was introducing herself. Wouldn't Enos have had killed her when he was with her for the first ride, maybe have killed her in the cemetary... it really would have been life imitating art because two years after this movie came out, a young girl was found brutally murdered in a cemetary on Route 94 in Blairstown... still to this day, she is unidentified. (www.princessdoe.org (http://www.princessdoe.org))


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: sake on October 16, 2011, 09:27:08 AM
I remember when i first time saw part 1. I was so scared especially when Jason pop's out the water.. only problem was that I didn't know the name of movie then. I was so happy when I found this film again!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: RK0325 on October 16, 2011, 01:24:20 PM
I remember when i first time saw part 1. I was so scared especially when Jason pop's out the water.. only problem was that I didn't know the name of movie then. I was so happy when I found this film again!!

It was like it was placed out of my mind during my early teens years and then popped in one night. I think I would have really enjoyed these movies in my earlier teens.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 22, 2011, 09:27:48 PM
It was like it was placed out of my mind during my early teens years and then popped in one night. I think I would have really enjoyed these movies in my earlier teens.
or it could've scarred you !!  lol

i saw them as a child and was petrified , in a good way .
been a fan ever since :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Rich on November 04, 2011, 03:11:05 AM
I got into these films when I was like 9 and have loved them ever since.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 08, 2011, 11:24:10 PM
I often think about when I first saw Friday13 pt 1 and 2.....it was completely by chance and by accident..I was 10 and I remember covering my eyes when annie gets it lol...and was facinated with how pt 2 followed and lived up to 1...both films were shot/edited/acted perfectly....they're both SUPER cheez but they are gems which will always be at the top of my fav movie list...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 1 discussion
Post by: Stalker on November 09, 2011, 07:12:05 AM
I got into these films when I was like 9 and have loved them ever since.
Good habits are started young.