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Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shivers dude on August 12, 2005, 09:54:32 PM
I thought the ending could have been better,but one of my favourite's of the sequels :)


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 12, 2005, 10:39:38 PM
I loved it. I though it probley one of the best movie of the series. Ted White made a great Jason.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 12, 2005, 10:44:03 PM
Easily one of my favorites in the series, first F13th film I had the pleasure viewing so therefore it suits me very well hehe. I loved all the kills and characters since they were fun to watch especially Crispin Glover's character Jimbo.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shivers dude on August 13, 2005, 12:16:31 AM
It is my 3rd best :) Does anyone know what ''Ted'' was watching on that T.V?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jason Forever on August 13, 2005, 01:13:56 AM
I like this one alot as well, I didn't so much mind the end as much as others I mean at least it wasn't as bad as the endings in 7 or 8...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Black_viper on August 13, 2005, 05:10:42 AM
I like this one too(Alll Jason movies i love)... In my opinion this is the most coolest movie ever! And the part where Tommy chopped Jason many times scene was very thrilling.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 13, 2005, 09:36:11 AM
Quote from: "Shivers dude";p="1550"

It is my 3rd best :) Does anyone know what ''Ted'' was watching on that T.V?



Look like some home movies someone made of some nude females


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jason Myers on August 14, 2005, 03:09:51 AM
Second best after Jason Lives and IMO the last truly scary film of the series, Jason has never been more menacing nor brutal. Ted White for sure had to be the most intimidating Jason ever, he's such a psychopath in this one. Add to an outstanding Jason portrayal some awesome and violent-as-Hell death scenes, the ominous darker-than-dark atmosphere and tone, good heroic characters in Tommy and Trish, and IMO the best finale of the series. TFC's easily one of the best F13 movies.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shivers dude on August 14, 2005, 03:24:29 AM
Quote from: "Jason Myers";p="1714"

Second best after Jason Lives and IMO the last truly scary film of the series, Jason has never been more menacing nor brutal. Ted White for sure had to be the most intimidating Jason ever, he's such a psychopath in this one. Add to an outstanding Jason portrayal some awesome and violent-as-Hell death scenes, the ominous darker-than-dark atmosphere and tone, good heroic characters in Tommy and Trish, and IMO the best finale of the series. TFC's easily one of the best F13 movies.


Very well said,but I just thought the end could of been better since at the time it was meant to be the ''Final chapter'' Still one of my favourite's though


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jason Myers on August 14, 2005, 03:27:15 AM
In a way it is sort of final, being that it's the final film with Jason as a human (not counting the flashbacks/dreams in A New Beginning).


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shivers dude on August 14, 2005, 03:41:55 AM
ahhh,I miss them days :grin:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: The Knight on August 14, 2005, 01:03:52 PM
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Second best after Jason Lives and IMO the last truly scary film of the series, Jason has never been more menacing nor brutal. Ted White for sure had to be the most intimidating Jason ever, he's such a psychopath in this one.


That, in my opinion, is what makes part 4 so effective- Jason is truly frightening.  Now mind you, he's killing people, so there is naturally an element of fear regardless of who plays Jason.  However, in Part 2 he's brought down temporarily by a kick in the nuts; in Part 3, he's temporarily immobilized by a knife in the leg- but by Part 4, not even splitting his hand down the middle stops him or even elicits a slight groan in pain.

His scenes chasing Trish, or when he breaks through the door and throws the hammer are very, VERY effective!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jason Myers on August 14, 2005, 11:39:51 PM
I agree with you, Jason IMO has never been more frightening than in TFC. You can tell the filmmakers really wanted to go out with a bang when the human Jason saga ended and they most certainly did.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shivers dude on August 15, 2005, 01:53:27 AM
Fri 13th 4 Had the most ''entertaining'' teens for sure :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jason Myers on August 15, 2005, 03:18:46 AM
I personally found most of the teens annoying but they were funny. Can't go wrong with Jimbo's dancing :laugh:


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shivers dude on August 15, 2005, 06:02:47 AM
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I personally found most of the teens annoying but they were funny. Can't go wrong with Jimbo's dancing :laugh:


Fair enough


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: The Knight on August 15, 2005, 06:17:01 PM
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I personally found most of the teens annoying but they were funny. Can't go wrong with Jimbo's dancing :laugh:


The teens didn't bother me quite as much as some of the cheap ass kills.

For instance, Jason crushes one teen's skull in the shower, and impales another on a harpoon gun...

...but then he spears another one, and all you really see is the shadow of it happening...or throwing an axe through a door and hitting another teen in the chest- I mean, c'mon!

Today I've watched parts 3-5, and will probably watch 6 and 7 as well...and its pretty fun. :-)


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shivers dude on August 16, 2005, 02:00:01 AM
Quote from: "The Knight";p="2006"

Quote from: "Jason Myers";p="1896"
I personally found most of the teens annoying but they were funny. Can't go wrong with Jimbo's dancing :laugh:


The teens didn't bother me quite as much as some of the cheap ass kills.

For instance, Jason crushes one teen's skull in the shower, and impales another on a harpoon gun...

...but then he spears another one, and all you really see is the shadow of it happening...or throwing an axe through a door and hitting another teen in the chest- I mean, c'mon!

Today I've watched parts 3-5, and will probably watch 6 and 7 as well...and its pretty fun. :-)


Why,did u start at 3?


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: The Knight on August 16, 2005, 10:58:11 PM
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Why,did u start at 3?


Because on Scream (the Horror channel here in Canada) I had caught F13 and F13 Part 2 about a week earlier.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: The Kurgan on August 17, 2005, 05:48:23 AM
Jason being killed by a kid though... nah. I was cheering was the J man the whole way.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shivers dude on August 17, 2005, 06:05:36 AM
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Jason being killed by a kid though... nah. I was cheering was the J man the whole way.


I did not like the end too much eithier.......


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: The Knight on August 17, 2005, 10:19:09 PM
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Jason being killed by a kid though... nah. I was cheering was the J man the whole way.


I've never been able to cheer Jason on.

Some very annoying people in the movies haven't bothered me seeing them dispatched...but I still can't get past the fact that Jason is the monster, not the hero.

Still...aside from perhaps the first two parts, there always seems to be at least one character whose demise I grow impatient with...so in that sense, I guess I do start to cheer on Jason a little bit.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shivers dude on August 19, 2005, 07:25:47 PM
I think we all do every now and then........


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Undertaker on August 20, 2005, 09:30:37 PM
The Final Chapter was a great entry into the series. It was the only time Jason was ever "killed". The only thing i did not like was the off screen kill of Ms Jarvis, the implied death does not work in my opinion


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Sirch on December 23, 2005, 05:22:56 AM
I think this was the best one in the series. The characters were well made, and for once one get to know each one of them a little bit instead of the producers making them only to get killed. Especially I liked watching Dead fuck, Ted, Rob and Sam.
I also think Jason had the best look in this F13, not too zombie like as in the other movies. And the way he kills (especially Dead Fuck) is more exciting, and he even make one or two trophys (dead fuck mounted on the door with spikes through his hands.)
The ending was pretty good, although i wished Jason would have an ax or something to fight back with instead of leaving himself defenseless.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on December 23, 2005, 10:58:42 AM
Yeah the ending was great to see Jason get killed like he did!


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Maniac on December 23, 2005, 12:22:33 PM
My one main gripe with this film is the way they built up Rob's character only to let him die like a big wimp. I mean he's going on about how he's gonna get Jason and all that for killing his sister but when they have their confrontation he just yells over and over "He's Killing Me"..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Sirch on January 08, 2006, 04:06:07 PM
That was a bit dumb, I liked his character and I think the actor did well, so it was disappointing. But if had been the one to kill Jason it had been worse, a cliché. If he would, he would surely marry Trish as well. :rolleyes:  If he had died the same way as the Duke in JGTH instead of screaming while he was hacked up by a hammer it would have been better.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: SDR on January 10, 2006, 08:53:43 AM
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My one main gripe with this film is the way they built up Rob's character only to let him die like a big wimp. I mean he's going on about how he's gonna get Jason and all that for killing his sister but when they have their confrontation he just yells over and over "He's Killing Me"..

Yeah. Way to go, Rob.:tongue:


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shivers dude on February 17, 2006, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: "Dark";p="12539"

My one main gripe with this film is the way they built up Rob's character only to let him die like a big wimp. I mean he's going on about how he's gonna get Jason and all that for killing his sister but when they have their confrontation he just yells over and over "He's Killing Me"..


I hated that guy, I dont think they really needed to put him in the movie


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on February 23, 2006, 02:52:50 PM
He did turn out to be quite useless. I'm always disappointed when I see how he goes out in the movie........................ ..
If I'm drinking and watching PART 4, I usually laugh my ass off whenever he's  onscreen, and I can't explain WHY I'm laughing to virgins of the film, 'cause I don't wanna give away his fate.Then when they see how he dies, they laugh, too.  :jas7:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: reegan01 on April 06, 2006, 12:11:14 PM
My favorite part is when Rosie O'Donnell gets a knife in the head while stuffing her fat face with the banana.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Six Feet Under on April 10, 2006, 06:05:48 PM
Ooooohhhh, yeah that scene, it was fast and brutal, just the way I like it :).


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on May 21, 2006, 03:02:30 PM
I like each and every film in the series even when i say i hate them I still find myself watching them over and over again.

Pt. 4 is a great film for many reasons.

Jason is still human (if you go with the theory that he's human from the beginning) and like said in some previous posts, in the past films a few dinky things hurt him but he's learned to get past that, but he's still human...and because he's still human it brings a totally different scare factor to the film (though I'm not scared of any of these films) it could actually be real!

The characters. You get to know them and get to figure out which ones you like, and which ones you hate.

The ending was actually pretty cool. I don't understand why people don't like it. Please explain.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 03, 2006, 01:32:10 PM
I think that IV would've been a great finale to the series!
After IV, I've only really enjoyed the sixth and seventh movies.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: VoorheesLover on March 26, 2007, 12:25:11 PM
I can't remember right now, but I love how they have the opening with Paul from Pt2 retelling the story from Pt. 2 with clips from the first few films. Its also awesome that it continues right from the ending of Pt. 3, just as though Halloween continues into Halloween 2.

In the beginning you are also a bit shocked to see Jason being taken to the hospital morgue. You're just waiting for him to get up and start slicing people...obivously he's knocked out from his blow.

I did always wonder who that girl was in the hospital crying though, i mean it was an obvious point they made in showing her, I don't think they would have brought Chris to the hospital morgue...although she was acting crazy by the end of pt.3 that she probably would have been taken somewhere into the hospital

The character's werent really that annoying. I thought they were funny, and yes, Jimbos classic dance. Perfect 80s teens

Tommy is a cool character to have, especially since he goes on to be in my favorite film...but i'm surprised nobody mentioned THIS: Jason gets beaten by a CHILD! Doesn't that just go to show how really weak he was...i mean really did this kid really have THAT kind of strength to get that machete into his skull like that? on the same level though, i'd have to say its one of the better Jason kills, and could have been The FINAL Chapter.

Tommy and his family are just your normal average family members, which we havent seen in the series before this, its always been camp counselors or in the case of pt3 just teenagers on vacation. In this film they are trying to show that it could happen to any normal family

The girls were hot, the guys weren't too bad either, and overall it was just fun.

I also want to say that I felt really bad for the hitchhiker! I mean what was jason's purpose in killing her?


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: tabbysquealer on April 06, 2007, 02:46:02 PM
there is something I have quite curious about for years: why did they leave Ted White's name out of the credits for the movie? all this time I never knew who he was until I saw his name in the end credits of part 7. and when I went back to watch part 4, I couldn't find him anywhere.

so why did they leave his name out? :jas4:


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: It's me..... Billy on April 06, 2007, 03:13:26 PM
Quote from: "tabbysquealer"
there is something I have quite curious about for years: why did they leave Ted White's name out of the credits for the movie? all this time I never knew who he was until I saw his name in the end credits of part 7. and when I went back to watch part 4, I couldn't find him anywhere.

so why did they leave his name out? :jas4:
He didn't want his name credited.  That was a conscience choice of the actor, and the studio has to obey or there would be some suing to do.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on April 06, 2007, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: "tabbysquealer"
there is something I have quite curious about for years: why did they leave Ted White's name out of the credits for the movie? all this time I never knew who he was until I saw his name in the end credits of part 7. and when I went back to watch part 4, I couldn't find him anywhere.

so why did they leave his name out? :jas4:


According to an old fango (which has been known to be wrong):

Quote
Ted's name doesn't appear in the credits because he didn't want it to. He felt really uneasy about playing Jason.  Funny thing is even after he had the producer's take out his name from the credits, they still asked him to come back and play Jason for Part 5. Of course he turned it down.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shifty on April 06, 2007, 05:21:21 PM
Between Rob's "he's killing me" and Jimbo's dancing, this is easily my favorite in the series.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 07, 2007, 02:54:46 PM
I really like how 2 thru 4 all take place in the same period of time.
Yeah, the opening montage is cool. 7 has a good one, too.

Ted White had a bad feeling about "killing" all of those teens in PART 4


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: VoorheesLover on April 10, 2007, 12:43:04 PM
yes. it is really nice that they continue right on from each other within the same time period, its just ashame they didn't pay more attention to the previous installments and made him look like the previous Jason.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on April 21, 2007, 03:22:30 PM
I am in the process of watching the special features on the box set again, and they were showing the scene where Tommy and Rob are up in the bedroom, and Tommy puts this thing around Rob's neck...anybody notice that it kinda looks like the head of a penis? lol I've always thought that.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on April 21, 2007, 06:42:43 PM
Quote from: "Kat"
I am in the process of watching the special features on the box set again, and they were showing the scene where Tommy and Rob are up in the bedroom, and Tommy puts this thing around Rob's neck...anybody notice that it kinda looks like the head of a penis? lol I've always thought that.


LOL i though i was the only one though that i was afraid to ask anyone on here since i though they might think i am crazy lol


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 02, 2007, 04:10:19 PM
I always felt bad for the heavy hitcher that got killed in IV.

Parts 2,4 and 6 are my faves to watch and drink adult beverages.

For some reason, when I start a mini-marathon, I never start with the first movie. I start with 2 and on from there.


The so-called "FINAL CHAPTER" is really the ending to me in many ways, even though i enjoy the sixth and seventh films.

I agree with Kat on how JV is still "human" in the 4th movie, although the supernatural element is still there.

The first four have a distinct feel to them. The woods, the lake, the characters.  The look and sound are genuine as well.
I always find myself going back to these earlier ones.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 02, 2007, 09:56:19 PM
Quote from: "ProwlerChad"

The first four have a distinct feel to them. The woods, the lake, the characters.  The look and sound are genuine as well.
I always find myself going back to these earlier ones.


Yeah there is def. a different feel to the series. I'd say you could cut it three ways. 1-3 then 5-7...maybe even 8 cause the camp element was in it sorta even if only for a min...and then 9, JGTH, Jason X and FvsJ

They all have their own feels to them, but they group together easily this way


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Zodiac on June 03, 2007, 08:13:03 AM
1-3 would have been the "Classic series" The Killer was basically An unstoppable force and only to be killed at the very end in a last ditch effort by the survivor.

4-7 would be considered the Versus series. Killer now has an enemy directly opposing him. Be it Rob, Tommy and Megan (She helped tommy out quite a bit) Tina. And even an impostor thrown into the mix for good measure.

8-FvJ would be the Experimental series. Taking the killer out of the normal settings. I.E. New York City, Body Jumping, Hell, Dreamworld, Outer space. No Direct enemy but drastically altered locations and environments, in the last movie both apply, Different environment and an enemy to battle.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 04, 2007, 01:39:56 AM
you know i always wonder how did tommy & Trish father take the news of a Mass Killer killing their friends (Well not really friends) and their mom i also wonder did he try to help them after this i know we know tommy went into an institution but we never found out what happen to Trish


The Friday the 13th movies can make you think what happen to the kids who jason does not kill


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Six Feet Under on June 04, 2007, 01:54:38 PM
I liked this part, all the deaths and blood. But I must say, I can't remember much of this movie. I just liked it.


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 05, 2007, 03:49:58 AM
Quote from: "Six Feet Under"
I liked this part, all the deaths and blood. But I must say, I can't remember much of this movie. I just liked it.


Do u have it on DVD or VHS? if you do you could re watch it so you remember more of it


Title: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on June 10, 2007, 09:22:55 PM
I have 1-8 on DVD, but I still have 1-4 on VHS.
The only thing that disappointed me with the DVD box set was the lack of director and cast interviews. I thought that there would be more participation.  I like what IS on the bonus disc, but I miss hearing from Steve Miner and some of the actors.


THE FINAL CHAPTER really should've been the finale. 6 and 7 were fun, but look at the crap that came after the Paramount movies.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on June 14, 2008, 09:48:49 PM
Okay as i was watching part 4 last night when Tommy gave the look at the end i wondering did they film that to prove there be another movie or that maybe Tommy will start killing people and take Jason place.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on June 15, 2008, 12:26:06 PM
Okay as i was watching part 4 last night when Tommy gave the look at the end i wondering did they film that to prove there be another movie or that maybe Tommy will start killing people and take Jason place.

They originally intended for Tommy to be the new killer, set it up with Part 5. But we all know how bad that idea was.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on June 15, 2008, 02:51:30 PM
I'm very glad they didn't make Tommy the killer. Then we wouldn't have Pt. 6 or 7 which are great flicks


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on June 17, 2008, 01:53:48 PM
I watched this the other night, and it still holds up as an example that all slasher films trying to be 'brutal' - Rob Zombie, take notes - ought to emulate.

The Final Chapter has a substantially different feel about it than the others. Whereas the first sequel attempted to reproduce the air of mystery that the original had, and the third film went off on its own drug-fueled, pseudo-campy tangent, The Final Chapter feels like the final progression of Friday the 13th's giallo-influenced thriller. It really is the first slasher movie to my mind where the emphasis is on the body count, and nothing but the body count.

Normally, that'd be a bad thing. Here, however, it works, and works well. I've often mentioned that all of the films after and including Jason Lives are traditional 'Universal' monster movies in a positive sense rather than pure slashers, but I'd suggest that this flick was instrumental in taking Jason out of the shadows and making him a character in his own right. No doubt some of that is owed to the exceptional work of Ted White behind the mask - the first Jason-actor I'd consider particularly skilled at the job - but I think Joe Zito's previous work on The Prowler also rather shines through here. If you dislike the later Paramount and New Line films, then you almost have to dislike this as well to be consistent; in none of the earlier entries would Jason have thrown an axe through a door to strike at a victim.

I'm not sure whether I like this or the second film the best of the first five movies. I do know I like several of the later ones better than either. Nevertheless, it's as definitive a slasher movie in its own right as the original.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on June 17, 2008, 02:14:04 PM
The kills in this movie are my favorite,jason just seems more angry in this one-And his own demise is the best,Tom did an excellent job on the effects


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 01, 2008, 07:32:27 PM
Jason is his scariest in IV and VII. Ted White was quite effective in IV.
I always liked how II thru IV take place in the same time period.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Fallen on July 03, 2008, 12:10:10 AM
Part IV is my favorite Human Jason (Meaning 1,2,3,4, and flashback jason from 5). I don't like the burlap sack, and I think his head looked too big in part 3.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 03, 2008, 08:46:44 PM
My favorite actor to play Jason in his human films was Richard Brooker. Especially when he fires the spear gun then just walks off calmly.

Ted White did do a great job, he's a powerful presence on screen and gave a lot of energy to the film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LAZARUS on July 04, 2008, 12:59:36 AM
 Just watched this again last night.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that this film is filmed back at the original Camp Crystal Lake and it recaptures the original atmosphere of the first film.

 Part III was filmed elsewhere for some reason and it showed although I don't mind that film and I actually like the barn adding to the sense of danger in that movie.

 Jason at the end looked like something from outer space didn't really look human at all.

Why on earth would those kids go swimming at that time of night.

A link between Elvis Presley and Jason Voorhees? Who'd have thought it!

Joan Freeman who played the mum starred with Elvis in "Roustabout".


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 04, 2008, 02:33:41 AM
Which look makes him seem he's from outer space?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LAZARUS on July 04, 2008, 04:32:37 AM
 Right at the end when loses his mask and his head sags down on the machete he doesn't look human at all. Just my opinion.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on July 04, 2008, 03:26:58 PM
Just watched this again last night.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that this film is filmed back at the original Camp Crystal Lake and it recaptures the original atmosphere of the first film.

Thats because it wasn't filmed at the same place.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: atlarman on July 04, 2008, 11:28:49 PM
My one main gripe with this film is the way they built up Rob's character only to let him die like a big wimp. I mean he's going on about how he's gonna get Jason and all that for killing his sister but when they have their confrontation he just yells over and over "He's Killing Me"..
AGREED....(but i Think they were trying to "rachet up" the audience tension (for Trish) by doing that...I hope so cause otherwise it was just lame (rob's death)

I think that IV would've been a great finale to the series!
After IV, I've only really enjoyed the sixth and seventh movies.
 

Pretty much feel the same...the rest? eh,so,so

I can't remember right now, but I love how they have the opening with Paul from Pt2 retelling the story from Pt. 2 with clips from the first few films. Its also awesome that it continues right from the ending of Pt. 3, just as though Halloween continues into Halloween 2.

In the beginning you are also a bit shocked to see Jason being taken to the hospital morgue. You're just waiting for him to get up and start slicing people...obivously he's knocked out from his blow.

I did always wonder who that girl was in the hospital crying though, i mean it was an obvious point they made in showing her, I don't think they would have brought Chris to the hospital morgue...although she was acting crazy by the end of pt.3 that she probably would have been taken somewhere into the hospital

The character's werent really that annoying. I thought they were funny, and yes, Jimbos classic dance. Perfect 80s teens

Tommy is a cool character to have, especially since he goes on to be in my favorite film...but i'm surprised nobody mentioned THIS: Jason gets beaten by a CHILD! Doesn't that just go to show how really weak he was...i mean really did this kid really have THAT kind of strength to get that machete into his skull like that? on the same level though, i'd have to say its one of the better Jason kills, and could have been The FINAL Chapter.

Tommy and his family are just your normal average family members, which we havent seen in the series before this, its always been camp counselors or in the case of pt3 just teenagers on vacation. In this film they are trying to show that it could happen to any normal family

The girls were hot, the guys weren't too bad either, and overall it was just fun.

I also want to say that I felt really bad for the hitchhiker! I mean what was jason's purpose in killing her?
Lol ,,,because she was there that's All the "reason" he needs  :P

I am in the process of watching the special features on the box set again, and they were showing the scene where Tommy and Rob are up in the bedroom, and Tommy puts this thing around Rob's neck...anybody notice that it kinda looks like the head of a penis? lol I've always thought that.

...umm no cant say i paid THAT much attn to it Kat... ;) (MUST b A GIRL thing lol

They originally intended for Tommy to be the new killer, set it up with Part 5. But we all know how bad that idea was.
Actually the studio DID plan for IV to be the last one...It was ZITO's idea to leave that look @ the end,in case they later wanted to make more...that gave them a possible Jumping off point(which im glad they didnt go that way) "Friday" w/out Jason will never work for too long IMO (pt V anyone? ::) )

Right at the end when loses his mask and his head sags down on the machete he doesn't look human at all. Just my opinion.
:" Mongoloid" is the look its said they were going after (In Jason's "Human Period")
In a nut shell Mongoliod meaning Deformed to the extent as to be unrecognizable by racial traits or unsimilar to most in any human bloodline...I'd say..."mission accomplished" Tom (Savini)

EDIT: Merged posts ~ Kat


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LAZARUS on July 05, 2008, 04:21:10 AM
 He doesn't look like someone with Down's Syndrome. He doesn't look human at all.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LAZARUS on July 05, 2008, 04:26:11 AM
 The setting looks very similar to the first film.  It has a similar feel as well.  Of course the house is different. The house looks like Norman Bates' home from "Psycho".

 Part III looked very different and filmed at somewhere or something called "Valuet Movie Ranch". At the end where the girl is in the boat, the lake looked more like a creek and very shallow.

The lake and surrounding environs in Part IV looked much like the original.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 05, 2008, 03:48:44 PM
Well I thought Jason was a mongoloid and not a Down's Syndrome sufferer.

I thought he looked his best in IV during his human years.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LAZARUS on July 06, 2008, 10:43:23 AM
 Down's Syndrome is the modern medical term for the condition that was known as "Mongoloid ism"



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: atlarman on July 06, 2008, 11:05:55 PM
Yes I looked up " Mongoloid" after my posting...and it seems that the current "medical definition" is for Downs snydrome" ...However some wks prior I had read- from some source that I cannot recall atm,other def...somthing like...Deformed to the point of being unrecognizable as  coming from any particlar known human race.


LATER I FOUND: That mongoloid ACTUALLY refers to those w/ asain racial traits....(The Dicitionary's terminology, not mine...and as an alt definition descrbing someone who suffers from DOWNS syndrome- Medical Dictionary)

Sorry if I mislead or offended ANYONE! PS- THANX Kat 4 merging my posts! (I"M STILL LEARNING LOL ;) )


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on July 08, 2008, 07:52:22 AM
I just re-watched Part 4, maybe he killed the Hitchhiker for some tools and stuff? Her bag looked big enough to have something decent in there. If there wasn't anything there good enough for Jason, then oh well at least we saw a pretty cool and memorable death!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on July 08, 2008, 08:42:03 AM
I just re-watched Part 4, maybe he killed the Hitchhiker for some tools and stuff? Her bag looked big enough to have something decent in there. If there wasn't anything there good enough for Jason, then oh well at least we saw a pretty cool and memorable death!

Maybe he wanted her banana, and was pissed when it got mushy...

Kidding of course


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on July 08, 2008, 12:16:06 PM
I doubt she had any jason type weopons in her bag,plus Jason heard that she didnt have a sisiter


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 10, 2008, 01:13:31 AM
Jason killed her to be killing her.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on July 11, 2008, 02:19:27 AM
Jason Killed her because she was at the wrong place at the wrong time lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on July 15, 2008, 06:38:10 AM
I kind of feel sorry for her. If they had picked her up in the first place, she wouldn't have been killed.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Maniac on July 15, 2008, 06:49:28 AM
Nancy is correct, she just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. She was in the Crystal Lake area and not far from Pamela's grave.

Dark


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LewdIntentions on July 16, 2008, 02:20:10 AM
I kind of feel sorry for her. If they had picked her up in the first place, she wouldn't have been killed.

Nah...

She would have died. lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 16, 2008, 08:08:41 PM
DIE!!!!....DIE!!!....DIE.!!!...........DIE!!!.....it rings in the ears sooo nice...... and the shot of  jasons face sliding down the machete.... i feel it everytime!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: SoulOfVoorhees on August 17, 2008, 01:34:31 AM
For the record, Jason isn't a mongoloid, he's a hydrocephalic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus), as per Tom Savini's design notes on the original film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 17, 2008, 09:17:39 AM
so.... hes a water head.... hmm :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 17, 2008, 10:22:17 AM
Nancy is correct, she just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. She was in the Crystal Lake area and not far from Pamela's grave.

Dark

You know i always wonder did jason ever stop by Pamela's grave


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 17, 2008, 12:38:47 PM
no need.... he has her head


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on August 17, 2008, 02:01:19 PM
well, are we supposed to believe that she is now buried in Pt 4? That they found Jason's cabin and her head, and buried it. Or that her body was buried back at the end of Pt. 1, without the head.

Humm..I wonder...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 17, 2008, 02:08:40 PM
it was said that jason saw his mother beheaded(in 2)....MAYBE he took the head that night  alice chopped it off....and then her body was buried... they do mention her grave in part 4 somewhere.. or they dive by it....somethin


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on August 17, 2008, 02:15:23 PM
Yeah, I know.

But what I mean is we know there is a headstone. Its possible that its empty. Or its possible her body was buried after she died. Obviously they didn't have the head, Jason had it.

So, I'm wondering if just her body is buried. Or now both her head and body are buried.

Really it doesn't matter, just curious


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 17, 2008, 02:24:24 PM
 i say lets go dig her up!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 17, 2008, 06:47:00 PM
i say lets go dig her up!!!!

I say we shouldn't because if she anything like her son she come back to live if their is lighting lol ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: atlarman on August 17, 2008, 10:57:24 PM
OH NO... not 2 of them ! lol ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 18, 2008, 02:39:05 PM
thats funny nancy.... i actualually thought of that after i wrote it...... different subjuect.... the way ROB dies is friggin hilarious.. the way he screams... AHHH HE KILLING ME!!!!.. TRISH HES KILLING ME!!.... it so over the top.... it only adds to the cheeze factor(which i love)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 18, 2008, 04:07:24 PM
and i feel JIMMYS death was done really well.. CRISPEN GLOVER plays the whinny roll.. to a T....almost the same charachter he playes in BTF2.. lol.... everytime i see that corkscrew in the hand.... anf getting whacked in the face with a meat clever..... brutal


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 19, 2008, 02:05:32 AM
IMO Rob's death gotta be the most funniest death in the whole series. here he was acting like a big bad man keeping on trying to hunt jason down and when he finally meet Jason face to face when Jason was killing him he act like a freaking dumbass lol and its funny that Tommy a 11/12 year old boy can face Jason and kill him but Rob whos an Adult could not lol

And everytime i watch part 4 when he say "he's killing me" I always say "No Shit"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 19, 2008, 02:45:29 PM
does jason kill gordon(the dog)?? cause it looks like he commits suicide......jason is in the basement.. when the dog goes out the window...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on August 19, 2008, 04:39:16 PM
^ there is a long post about this in a thread about Rob's death, and I think another one in a thread about Gordon


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 19, 2008, 04:43:01 PM
thanks


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 19, 2008, 09:14:39 PM
this is the next friday on my list to watch.......its the most fun.ny.... this and 6..... thats more fun


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MrVooRheeS on August 19, 2008, 09:29:34 PM
Yeah and one of the best movies in the series.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 20, 2008, 09:44:47 PM
i  always think back to when jason trish and tommy are at the top of the stairs.... at one point jason has a decicion to make... he looks at tommy... then at trish... then back at tommy... the n decided to go for trish....i dunno what it is... but for me... it shows a split second into the mid of jason... shows his thought process... (nevermind me ... im drunk)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 21, 2008, 11:49:20 PM
i just got done watching this.... i was never happy with the fact that they cut out TOMMYS mom death... with everything else in the film.... its just wierd


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: atlarman on August 21, 2008, 11:56:14 PM
^ there is a long post about this in a thread about Rob's death, and I think another one in a thread about Gordon
where r these? id like to read them lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 21, 2008, 11:57:12 PM
ohh there in here... maybe a few pages in...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on August 22, 2008, 12:39:38 AM
Try searching with the search box ;)

http://www.campblood.net/forum/index.php?topic=2042.0 - Rob's Death scene

http://www.campblood.net/forum/index.php?topic=891.0 - Gordon


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 22, 2008, 04:34:54 PM
i just got done watching this.... i was never happy with the fact that they cut out TOMMYS mom death... with everything else in the film.... its just wierd

Yea that one death that really pissed me off. She was a nice lady. And also the Death of Tina's mom in part 7 pissed me off too


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 22, 2008, 09:52:26 PM
how did it piss u off??.... just curious lol....i blame oit all on crews!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on August 24, 2008, 03:43:21 AM
because they both where nice ladies and did not desverd to die. I am glad they cut Tommy's mom death and we did not see it unlike we did with Tina's mother's death


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 24, 2008, 10:20:05 AM
yeah they were nice ladies... but jason doesnt xcare about that... he kills innocent people all the time... what makes them any diff??


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: atlarman on August 24, 2008, 05:06:53 PM
yeah they were nice ladies... but jason doesnt xcare about that... he kills innocent people all the time... what makes them any diff??
excellent point my man...Jason was never entended to be a "moral judge" (that's just something the character/series got tagged w/ as time went and critics/analyists looked into the series...

Imo- Jason is a symbol of unending(insatiable?) vengance!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: AnotherHorrorFanatic on August 25, 2008, 02:07:55 AM
Jason doesn't give a s**t about any of the characters besides them being in the camp, he just wants them all to die.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: atlarman on August 25, 2008, 08:07:20 AM
Jason doesn't give a s**t about any of the characters besides them being in the camp, he just wants them all to die.
yep ,pretty much what I meant...lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 25, 2008, 09:36:01 AM
Quote
Jason is a symbol of unending(insatiable?) vengance!

couldt agree with u more my man


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on September 07, 2008, 10:54:55 PM
Yeah, JV does not descriminate.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: captain xav on September 08, 2008, 12:29:01 AM
hes like a big dumb animal that doesn't stop.  :emomyers:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on September 08, 2008, 09:27:56 AM
anyone else feel that he was more "maniacal" in this film? when you actually see him chasing after trish..it adds more of a pshycotic vibe to it.. to see his thought process when choosing between tommy and trish(at the top of the stairs)...it hepls make this movie a good watch for me.. everytime


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on September 08, 2008, 01:34:41 PM
anyone else feel that he was more "maniacal" in this film? when you actually see him chasing after trish..it adds more of a pshycotic vibe to it.. to see his thought process when choosing between tommy and trish(at the top of the stairs)...it hepls make this movie a good watch for me.. everytime

Yah he just seems more brutal in this film,like he maid sure every death was a painful one


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on September 08, 2008, 09:05:16 PM
an boy were they!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: atlarman on September 08, 2008, 11:24:08 PM
PAAAAAAAINNNNNN is GOOOOOOD!( for boxoffice lmao) go jason..... 8)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on September 11, 2008, 09:33:03 AM
hmmm.... in the beggingin  with the fat hitchiker chick tries to get a ride.... she acts like a friggin mime.... she doesnt curse out at them for "barking" at her and she is very animated with her hand/arm movements... she doesnt say a DAMN thing!but.. her death is pretty good too... i bet the last thing runnin through her mind was..."DAMN... i really wanted to finish that banana!!"   :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Detroit_wingz on February 05, 2009, 09:15:27 PM
Part 4 has always been my favorite since I was a kid.  I think Jason is just so fed up with getting hurt he basically says "Fuck it" and ignores the pains he felt in earlier movies.  He's just so vicious, so brutal and IMO more so than in any other film.

When he busts through teh window and grabs Tommy...Just awesome when Trish is smacking him with the hammer.  Then BAM with the claw end.  Even though the hammer sticks straight into the wall, still freaky and effective.

Plotholes and appearance aside, it has a special place in my heart I guess.   :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on February 06, 2009, 12:06:27 AM
i think part4 captures what i like about the friday13 series best.. its funny... gory... cheezy... it has a moderate level of sex/nudity(cause well, thats what teens do!)..campy....and it had everything a horror-hound would love...TWINS!!  :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on February 06, 2009, 10:34:10 AM
Did anyone ever notice that after he gets hit in the head with a TV and he's laying on the ground, Jason has a military-straight gig line? I always thought that was wierd.....a few other things to, but I can't remember them right now.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MichaelMyers1978 on February 06, 2009, 02:14:45 PM
This is the second best Friday film , just falling behind Part 2 :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on February 07, 2009, 12:27:51 AM
This is the second best Friday film , just falling behind Part 2 :)


100% agreed :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MichaelMyers1978 on February 07, 2009, 11:28:28 AM

100% agreed :)

:) I see you have great taste my Friend !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: AnoesVSFt13th on February 12, 2009, 07:34:19 PM
Ted White could teach Hodder a few things.  :jason4:> :jasonx:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on February 12, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
i liked jason in this one he was aggressive and scary WELL in all the movies he is but in this one there is something good about this one


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on February 13, 2009, 12:48:48 AM
he has this sort of menacing feel to him(  if tha makes any sense)... in the scenes where you actually see him run... thats scary to me....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: stain on February 20, 2009, 03:26:31 PM
The beginning of Part 4 is good:  the body being found, ambulance, hospital stuff.  However my favorite thing in Part 4 has to be Ted and Jimmy, their banter is hilarious throughout the film. 

Part 4 has a lot going on story wise, much more than you see in 1-3 and much better presented than what we saw in 5 - 10. 

Then again I'm a huge fan of 1-4, to me those are the best of the series, and I never get tired of watching them.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on February 20, 2009, 07:39:28 PM
i also loved the dream team (ted jimmy)..... in fact its even part of the reason i chose jimmyd as my member name... other than my name being jimmy......


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Machete on February 20, 2009, 10:20:21 PM
Just saw it for n/a time. Still great. Now I'm positive it's the darkest in the series. Almost no humour /except for Ted and Jimbo  ;D/ and the main characters are now a surviving family, not a last "man" standing chick. Jason is also quite different in a good way.

The best of the first 4, no doubt.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: zombiekiller07 on February 21, 2009, 12:00:18 AM
love this movie...defiantly one of the most serious movies in the series...and thats why I like it...but at the same time I dont really watch slasher flicks like Friday the 13th for 100% seriousness, thats why i think 6 is better...it balances the humor and gore a lot better IMO


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MrVooRheeS on February 22, 2009, 01:27:16 PM
No doubt, Jason was scary in this movie, one of my favorites for sure.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on February 22, 2009, 07:52:37 PM
Of the first 4 (and best)movies, Jason is at his MEANEST in this chapter. :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MrVooRheeS on February 22, 2009, 08:00:56 PM
Totally agree.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on February 22, 2009, 08:19:40 PM
I mean, Brooker was great in III, but Ted White's moves and physical presence totally rule. Kane was the only one to come close, and I prefer the "alive" Jason to the zombie one.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MrVooRheeS on February 22, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
I would always choose "alive" Jason over, "dead" Jason.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Detroit_wingz on February 26, 2009, 10:09:27 AM
I prefer "Alive" Jason as well.  Ted White really made Jason something to be afraid of.  The scene where he rips Jimbo (i think it was Jimbo) off the door after he was hanging there with the spikes is just brutal.  I also loved the sounds the Alive Jason made when he got hit with something.   Part 6 and on he just shrugged that stuff off.  I love all the films, but part 4 just sticks with me more than any other....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MichaelMyers1978 on February 26, 2009, 11:20:09 AM
Alive , Jason All The Way


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Bloodee Jacob/Freddy V on February 26, 2009, 08:53:10 PM
I actually prefer "zombie" Jason over Alive Jason. Don't get me wrong though I like Alive Jason too, it's just that after I watch a "zombie" Jason movie, then watch Alive Jason movie and see him stopped with something that "zombie" Jason would've shrugged off. I just like Jason being more on the invulnrable side.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on March 05, 2009, 09:33:21 PM
Watched this one AGAIN last night. Why the Hell did Rob leave his guns in the tent?!? :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on March 05, 2009, 09:53:43 PM
Watched this one AGIN last night. Why the Hell did Rob leave his guns in the tent?!? :jason4:

Jason broke his rifle


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on March 05, 2009, 10:14:29 PM
Yeah, but he left the guns there BEFORE JV broke 'em. If you're hunting a killer, you would KEEP the gun with you! LOL. :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Maniac on March 06, 2009, 12:58:11 PM
Well he had his trusty machete on him but that did little good as well.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on March 07, 2009, 10:23:12 AM
the thing i dont get is why JV didnt just kill rob then? (at the tent)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on March 09, 2009, 12:20:59 AM
Damn good question.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on March 09, 2009, 12:47:31 AM
the thing i dont get is why JV didnt just kill rob then? (at the tent)

Maybe Jason saw his gun and wanted to destroy it, givin the chance when Robbed stepped out to investigate the screams..It also looks like Jason destroyed Robs maps


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: NancyThompson on March 10, 2009, 01:51:18 AM
the thing i dont get is why JV didnt just kill rob then? (at the tent)

i always though he was looking for a weapen and he find the gun and wanted to destroy it and also he messed up robs maps too.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 20, 2009, 03:25:48 PM
He came to the tent figuring someone was in there. He found nobody but weapons and equipment. He broke the gun so that it would never become a threat to him. Maybe when he left the tent he didn't know where Rob was and actually left looking for the owner of the tent.

Also, since he found one gun in the tent, maybe Jason figured the owner of the tent might have another gun on them, so it's better to sit that one out and wait and see how armed they were.

Remember, Jason is not the idiot that everyone makes him out to be. He has many scenes throughout the series that show off his intelligence. He isn't stupid, and he probably tought the owner would have another gun on them, so live to kill another victim.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 21, 2009, 09:53:07 AM
i dunno... rob only stepped maybe 10 ft from the tent....and JV hasnt ever destroyed a wepon without destroying it over someones head.. or shoving it through someone ect.....the fact that he just broke it and left.. isnt JV to me.....like rich said.. JV isnt an idiot.. he defiantly plans his moves... manipulates his victims..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on April 21, 2009, 10:49:31 AM
I'm trying to think here....

Would Jason even know what a gun is? Has he seen one before this?

Can't remember at the moment


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 22, 2009, 12:46:45 AM
He knows what a gun is. He lived to the age of 11. Being a child of the 50s, he would no dount be a fan of science fiction which was loaded with all kinds of guns and things.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on April 22, 2009, 03:18:56 PM
He knows what a gun is. He lived to the age of 11. Being a child of the 50s, he would no dount be a fan of science fiction which was loaded with all kinds of guns and things.

Thats complete speculation that he enjoyed sci-fi stuff... We know he lived with his mother, who was single, and she probably didn't own a gun.

I was just trying to think if there was a gun in any of the other films before Pt. 4, I don't think so..and its not like Rob shot it off so Jason knew it could hurt him.

Although, it is entirely possible that he knew what it was, its easier to say he does know then he doesnt lol.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 22, 2009, 08:49:37 PM
lets think of it this way.. if he killled him at the tent.. we wouldnt have heard the awesome "OH GOD HE'S KILLING ME!!"..  :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on April 22, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
Thats complete speculation that he enjoyed sci-fi stuff... We know he lived with his mother, who was single, and she probably didn't own a gun.

I was just trying to think if there was a gun in any of the other films before Pt. 4, I don't think so..and its not like Rob shot it off so Jason knew it could hurt him.

Although, it is entirely possible that he knew what it was, its easier to say he does know then he doesnt lol.

The police officer in part 2 had a gun.But does Jason know what it does?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 23, 2009, 01:21:28 AM
lets think of it this way.. if he killled him at the tent.. we wouldnt have heard the awesome "OH GOD HE'S KILLING ME!!"..  :P

We probably woudl have herd, "Oh God! He's in my tent! He's killing me! Don't splash any of my blood on my porno magazines! Oh God!"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 23, 2009, 08:26:18 AM
We probably woudl have herd, "Oh God! He's in my tent! He's killing me! Don't splash any of my blood on my porno magazines! Oh God!"

hahaha!.. awesome dude.....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on April 23, 2009, 10:35:08 AM
I think Rob was a waste of plot.Basically 2 days have past and this guy is in the woods looking for this escaped dead physco that killed his sister,and when he finally meets Jason he doesnt even put up a fight-what the fuck.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on April 24, 2009, 01:00:31 AM
I still say Rob was distracted when he realized how big his sister's breasts were. That's why he died so easily. :D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on April 24, 2009, 07:17:04 AM
The police officer in part 2 had a gun.But does Jason know what it does?

Didn't remember that...just think, he could have taken it and started shooting people to kill them...that wouldn't have been good.

I think Rob was a waste of plot.Basically 2 days have past and this guy is in the woods looking for this escaped dead physco that killed his sister,and when he finally meets Jason he doesnt even put up a fight-what the fuck.

I know! I think he was a good character till he got killed and was a pussy about it haha.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 25, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
I think Rob was a waste of plot.Basically 2 days have past and this guy is in the woods looking for this escaped dead physco that killed his sister,and when he finally meets Jason he doesnt even put up a fight-what the fuck.

I think Rob was basically scared shitless at THE moment of battle. As a natural reaction to fear many people's muscles freeze up and do not move. Often times that happens to people when they are scared and shocked. That is why when people talk about these films and say, "these movies are stupid, why don't they just run instead of standing there and screaming." That is because when you are distressed/scared/shocked, naturally that does happen to some people. They freeze out of fright. So, they aren't that STUPID after all. They are just being honest to what would most likely happen to some people in such a situation. Being that rob had a gun and machette and all that stuff, his bark was obviously bigger then his bite.

You could tell by his reaction to Trish in the tent when he didn't even realize he was still holding the machetter up that he was not a violent person by nature and barely knew what he was doing.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 04, 2009, 09:48:10 AM
joseph zito said that was hins intended reaction for rob.. thats what joseph would have done he said haha....


but while watchin the other day.... i know theres a HUGE debate as to when JV is "dead" or a zombie or whatever... if he is already dead in part 4... why did he bother breaking robs rifle?.. he knows it wont kill him...


ADD:does anyone else see JV move slightly under the blanket on the coroner's table?... and see his breath when he's placed in the icebox?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: stain on July 06, 2009, 08:04:18 PM
I think Rob was a waste of plot.Basically 2 days have past and this guy is in the woods looking for this escaped dead physco that killed his sister,and when he finally meets Jason he doesnt even put up a fight-what the fuck.

I respectfully disagree. 

I like the brother out looking for his sister, I believe that works even if the timing is off, and it's not too far of a stretch to assume Rob might have known a little about the area and was worried his sister was part of some mass murder attack.  The media would have reported something locally, if they did and Rob saw the report he would be worried enough about his sister to investigate ... he also makes for a nice red herring in a series (4th film) where they were looking to surprise people a little bit. 

I think rob could have been a little bit stronger as a character if slightly more of the movie revolved around him.  However, they decided to not give a lot of the story to Rob's character since you are supposed to suspect him.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 07, 2009, 05:21:59 PM
the budding romance between trish and rob was funny....when she was talkin about how she wished her parents would get back together.. and his half assed  "yeah.... me too" .. andwhen  he didnt know if to kiss her or not.. .. the whole mood was funny to me..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jameslofton on July 11, 2009, 05:07:44 PM


I've never been able to cheer Jason on.

Some very annoying people in the movies haven't bothered me seeing them dispatched...but I still can't get past the fact that Jason is the monster, not the hero.
The "lets cheer for Jason" mentality that started to set in, and virtually cemented itself with the release of part VI in my opinion swayed the direction of the franchise. They let the crowd in on it(a la wrestling in late 90s), and just tried to have fun with it. It stopped being about creating a solid horror flick and instead getting teens in theater seats.

I remember vividly watching Friday part VI at the drive in(double feature with April Fools Day) and you could literally hear people in cars cheering when Jason came onscreen.

The various filmmakers completely took their eyes off the ball. When you're cheering for a man that kills teenagers, the franchise needed to go back to the drawing board. After part IV, he was no longer a killer. He was an icon. I realize the iconic stature of Jason actually had its birth pangs in III, but by VI there was no going back.

I know these movies are supposed to be a bit of fun. Hell, 20+ years later, they are still great date movies. However, II is a great date movie. III is a great date movie. Horror fans didn't need to be fed VI-VIII to be able to enjoy these films. parts VI-VIII were clearly intentionally created for mass consumption catering to casual audiences.

When I see people at various sites over the years(and in real life) favoring those installments, I laugh because at that point it had veered far away from its roots, and other than the basic premise, doesn't even deserve the title attached to them.

I'm supposed to fear this maniac in early installments, then cheer for him as a zombie two years later?  ::)

This franchise should have stopped at IV, and if further installments needed, remove Jason from the equation and have other things happen in the Crystal Lake setting.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 12, 2009, 08:39:29 AM
The "lets cheer for Jason" mentality that started to set in, and virtually cemented itself with the release of part VI in my opinion swayed the direction of the franchise. They let the crowd in on it(a la wrestling in late 90s), and just tried to have fun with it. It stopped being about creating a solid horror flick and instead getting teens in theater seats.

I remember vividly watching Friday part VI at the drive in(double feature with April Fools Day) and you could literally hear people in cars cheering when Jason came onscreen.

The various filmmakers completely took their eyes off the ball. When you're cheering for a man that kills teenagers, the franchise needed to go back to the drawing board. After part IV, he was no longer a killer. He was an icon. I realize the iconic stature of Jason actually had its birth pangs in III, but by VI there was no going back.

I know these movies are supposed to be a bit of fun. Hell, 20+ years later, they are still great date movies. However, II is a great date movie. III is a great date movie. Horror fans didn't need to be fed VI-VIII to be able to enjoy these films. parts VI-VIII were clearly intentionally created for mass consumption catering to casual audiences.

When I see people at various sites over the years(and in real life) favoring those installments, I laugh because at that point it had veered far away from its roots, and other than the basic premise, doesn't even deserve the title attached to them.

I'm supposed to fear this maniac in early installments, then cheer for him as a zombie two years later?  ::)

This franchise should have stopped at IV, and if further installments needed, remove Jason from the equation and have other things happen in the Crystal Lake setting.


i guess i cheer for the antagonist when he kills off a character i feel deserving of it.. which really only starts happening in the later films...i cant help but love the casts from the first 4 films....and i do agree that the cast from  part4 was was made up of the most attractive characters to draw in as many teens as possible.... but the same can be said about the prior films(or any) with their storylines  surprises, and gore to draw in their intended crowds.. the purpose of any of these films is to... make money.... to make more films....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: stain on July 16, 2009, 05:14:53 PM
The "lets cheer for Jason" mentality that started to set in, and virtually cemented itself with the release of part VI in my opinion swayed the direction of the franchise. They let the crowd in on it(a la wrestling in late 90s), and just tried to have fun with it. It stopped being about creating a solid horror flick and instead getting teens in theater seats.

I remember vividly watching Friday part VI at the drive in(double feature with April Fools Day) and you could literally hear people in cars cheering when Jason came onscreen.

The various filmmakers completely took their eyes off the ball. When you're cheering for a man that kills teenagers, the franchise needed to go back to the drawing board. After part IV, he was no longer a killer. He was an icon. I realize the iconic stature of Jason actually had its birth pangs in III, but by VI there was no going back.

I know these movies are supposed to be a bit of fun. Hell, 20+ years later, they are still great date movies. However, II is a great date movie. III is a great date movie. Horror fans didn't need to be fed VI-VIII to be able to enjoy these films. parts VI-VIII were clearly intentionally created for mass consumption catering to casual audiences.

When I see people at various sites over the years(and in real life) favoring those installments, I laugh because at that point it had veered far away from its roots, and other than the basic premise, doesn't even deserve the title attached to them.

I'm supposed to fear this maniac in early installments, then cheer for him as a zombie two years later?  ::)

This franchise should have stopped at IV, and if further installments needed, remove Jason from the equation and have other things happen in the Crystal Lake setting.

Excellent post, but I do disagree about stopping with 4.  In hindsight I'm glad they had all of the sequels, but the perfect ending to the series should have been part 4. 

You are spot on about when the series took a turn, and that swayed audience reaction to the series.  Instead of being scared it became about kills and cheering on Jason.  It's almost impossible to remember a time when Jason was scary opposed to being the hero. 

Part of the problem was that the succeeding directors of parts 5-10 were encouraged to take the series "in a different direction" to breathe new life into the series.  In a way that had to happen but it also cheapened the films and they quickly became to be seen as lesser than other horror film series. 

However, the same thing happened with Freddy and they actually tried to create balance between the audience's desire to cheer for Freddy and want to be scared.  It's a very hard balance to create yet the enduring legacy of both characters has stood the test of time. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: JPad on July 17, 2009, 12:27:10 PM
Watched this last night for the first time in a couple of years.

Random thoughts from an ADD bro-

I loved Gordon.  I love dogs so it makes sense.  I still believe he lived because he was either thrown through the window or jumped through it in fright and either way he didn't look injured. 

There were some great shorts in the film.  Sprayon jean shorts for the two timing guy who gets stabbed in the crotch on the dock.  And the guy who wore daisy duke style sweatpant shorts with pockets (who got killed in the shower).

Crispin Glover is so freaking weird in a charismatic sort of way.

Was the hitchhiker guy the brother of the girl who gets killed at the end of the 2nd Friday movie?  (I'm horrible with names right now but they will eventually come back to me.  Pardon my idiocy.)

I liked the intro with scenes from the first 3 movies.

I have no idea how that nurse was attracted to Axel.

When Trish is running out of the party house, she screams when she sees the "just lost her virginity girl" dead on the front steps and runs back in the house.  Why didn't she just run past her?  I guess so she could try the other door to give props to one crucified Jimmy.

That one twin gets around.  Couldn't hook up with Jean Shorts so she went with Crispin instead.  I wish I had that song he was dancing to on CD.

I thought the extras on the Deluxe Edition were suprisingly good as a whole since the sets were so bare bones before.

All in all, my favorite Friday.  Was Jason basically transferring his "unholy power" to Tommy at the end or did Tommy just enjoy killing when he "offed" Mr. Voorhees? 

Feel free to respond to my beginner level F13 knowledge and guide me on my trip through these dark woods.



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on July 17, 2009, 02:08:36 PM

Was the hitchhiker guy the brother of the girl who gets killed at the end of the 2nd Friday movie?  (I'm horrible with names right now but they will eventually come back to me.  Pardon my idiocy.)

Yup, Sandra was his sister.


When Trish is running out of the party house, she screams when she sees the "just lost her virginity girl" dead on the front steps and runs back in the house.  Why didn't she just run past her?  I guess so she could try the other door to give props to one crucified Jimmy.

I always thought it was funny that she wouldn't just step over the dead body. But I guess, if the dead body is lying there all the sudden, maybe you'd think that the killer was still right outside the door...not sure.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: stain on July 17, 2009, 07:16:16 PM
Was Jason basically transferring his "unholy power" to Tommy at the end or did Tommy just enjoy killing when he "offed" Mr. Voorhees?

It's left to your own interpretation. 

Part 4 was really supposed to be the Final Friday but they also wanted to leave a little door open just in case ... either way they did believe it would be the end of Jason with possibly Tommy taking over (but all of that is just interpretation of what I read in Fangoria, the 4th Simon Hawke novel, some random notations in "Making Friday", and drawing my own conclusions).  Jason wasn't in Part 5 and he is resurrected in Part 6 by Tommy and Horshack.

I don't think you are supposed to believe Tommy enjoyed killing so much as Tommy was extremely focused and possibly becoming deranged after the hellish night he just went through.  At the hospital they add that nice scene where you see Tommy hugging his sister and looking as if he is becoming possessed ... once again, left to your own imagination. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: JPad on July 17, 2009, 07:35:14 PM
From a logical perspective (in the Fridayverse)*chuckles*, if one had a choice between the two answers, I would think human Jason would have to transfer some sort of supernatural power or evil mojo to Tommy which I think they should have just left this segment of the finale out.  Otherwise one would have to conclude seemingly normal Tommy lost his marbles (which is possible) after the events of what happened during the film.  Giving Jason supernatural powers IMO makes his character lose his fear factor turning him more into a cartoon character.  I agree with a lot of folks on here that F13 1-4 are where its at, but I'm also one to hope they keep releasing movies until the end of time as farfetched as most of the latter ones are (although I am a sucker for The New Blood).  I know they said that scene with Tommy was done to leave an opening for sequels, but I don't think that plot was well thought out and should have been left on the cutting room floor.  Just end it with Jason getting a machete through his head like a knife through butter (awesome) and if a sequel was coming down the line just write something fresh then, not add this Possessed Tommy or Killer Tommy cliffhanger now with little to no forethought. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on July 17, 2009, 09:15:08 PM
When Trish is running out of the party house, she screams when she sees the "just lost her virginity girl" dead on the front steps and runs back in the house.  Why didn't she just run past her?  I guess so she could try the other door to give props to one crucified Jimmy
I thought it was Tina?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: stain on July 17, 2009, 09:42:19 PM
I agree with a lot of folks on here that F13 1-4 are where its at, but I'm also one to hope they keep releasing movies until the end of time as farfetched as most of the latter ones are (although I am a sucker for The New Blood).

I think Jason, Meyers, Freddy, and Leatherface will be around for a long time in much the same way we have dracula, frankenstein, werewolf, and the mummy.  I wouldn't be surprised to see these characters resurrected every 20 years or so (in remakes, re-imagined storylines, etc).  Freddy vs Jason was like Dracula vs Frankenstein; at one time everyone wanted to see those two characters in a film and after a few decades it happen ... just like it did for Jason and Freddy.

That said, I'm not holding out hope that this new remake will have 11 sequels.  I still stand by original posts and believe we will see 1 (maybe 2) sequels and then in another 20 years another Jason film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: SirMWK on July 19, 2009, 10:34:42 PM
From a logical perspective (in the Fridayverse)*chuckles*, if one had a choice between the two answers, I would think human Jason would have to transfer some sort of supernatural power or evil mojo to Tommy which I think they should have just left this segment of the finale out.  Otherwise one would have to conclude seemingly normal Tommy lost his marbles (which is possible) after the events of what happened during the film.  Giving Jason supernatural powers IMO makes his character lose his fear factor turning him more into a cartoon character.  I agree with a lot of folks on here that F13 1-4 are where its at, but I'm also one to hope they keep releasing movies until the end of time as farfetched as most of the latter ones are (although I am a sucker for The New Blood).  I know they said that scene with Tommy was done to leave an opening for sequels, but I don't think that plot was well thought out and should have been left on the cutting room floor.  Just end it with Jason getting a machete through his head like a knife through butter (awesome) and if a sequel was coming down the line just write something fresh then, not add this Possessed Tommy or Killer Tommy cliffhanger now with little to no forethought. 

I never saw Jason as being evil. He was the one who nearly drowned as a boy while everyone ignored him. He was the one who the kids picked on.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on August 04, 2009, 02:02:43 PM
I never thought of Jason as evil either. He was an animal living in the woods like a bear and did what he had to do to survive. I think the only film that truely portrayed him as "evil" was Jason Goes to Hell. They made him into a demon creature.

Jason is like a shark. His actions may seem evil to us because they would threaten us, however, he is only doing what comes natural to him.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LOCOFOX 82 on August 08, 2009, 04:44:40 AM
After PART III this one is my next favorite FRIDAY film.  25 years old this year now that is hard to believe.  :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: SirMWK on August 08, 2009, 06:44:36 AM
I never thought of Jason as evil either. He was an animal living in the woods like a bear and did what he had to do to survive. I think the only film that truely portrayed him as "evil" was Jason Goes to Hell. They made him into a demon creature.

Jason is like a shark. His actions may seem evil to us because they would threaten us, however, he is only doing what comes natural to him.

Well said, my friend.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on August 14, 2009, 02:46:54 PM
After PART III this one is my next favorite FRIDAY film.  25 years old this year now that is hard to believe.  :jason4:

It is so hard to believe that The Final Chapter is 25 freakin years old man! I started being a fan of it when it was like maybe nine or ten years old. Now it's friggen 25!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 24HourTerror on August 20, 2009, 12:30:20 AM
yea time flys


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: xjediskywalkerx on August 22, 2009, 06:13:25 PM
i watched most of part 4 last night. you know what always confused me a bit? when they were having their party and the one twin is kind of rejected by the guy with the girlfriend. why did the other twin signal for her to take jimbo upstairs? it looked like they were planning something.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 22, 2009, 06:14:47 PM
i watched most of part 4 last night. you know what always confused me a bit? when they were having their party and the one twin is kind of rejected by the guy with the girlfriend. why did the other twin signal for her to take jimbo upstairs? it looked like they were planning something.


i always thought she was trying to signal her to " walk out" with her cause she wasnt having a good time..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: xjediskywalkerx on August 22, 2009, 06:53:58 PM
ooooo never thought of that.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on August 22, 2009, 07:51:47 PM
ooooo never thought of that.


you know whats funny.... the first time watching actually.. i thought she was signaling for a 3-some haha...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: xjediskywalkerx on August 23, 2009, 11:21:45 AM
haha. it always looked to me like they were planning on robbing them.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: SwanKong on August 23, 2009, 10:27:10 PM
Mmmm.....Doublemint twin threesome...... 8)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on August 26, 2009, 11:47:33 PM
Never really thought about the robbery angle.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on August 27, 2009, 02:23:21 PM
i watched most of part 4 last night. you know what always confused me a bit? when they were having their party and the one twin is kind of rejected by the guy with the girlfriend. why did the other twin signal for her to take jimbo upstairs? it looked like they were planning something.

I kinda wondered that myself, then later she's annoyed that Jimbo and her are up in the room.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Starman on August 28, 2009, 01:22:25 AM
i like when trish who stab machete in jason's hand (but i laugh)..oh yeah and hammer in jason's neck and then jason throw hard to trish but he miss it into the wall. :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Starman on August 29, 2009, 01:07:19 AM
ok i got a question... at the beginning of the movie at the morgue scene and it bug me about that axel is eating...what food did axel eating? look like bagel or can be probably donut? so everyone know?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on August 29, 2009, 09:05:46 AM
I thought it was a sandwich...?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Starman on August 30, 2009, 12:15:27 AM
I thought it was a sandwich...?

hmmm good guessing...maybe that would be it and im confused with food anyway lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Starman on September 16, 2009, 03:42:47 PM
ok i got a question... at the beginning of the movie at the morgue scene and it bug me about that axel is eating...what food did axel eating? look like bagel or can be probably donut? so everyone know?

still everyone know? :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on September 18, 2009, 11:54:37 AM
It was a doughnut.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: stain on September 29, 2009, 06:00:37 PM
I thought it was a doughnut as well. 



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jgordon57 on October 20, 2009, 03:05:24 PM
@jgordon57-friday the 13th-pt.4-liked the set up tommy(corey feldman)had in his room-those masks looked lifelike-even though it was a good ending-instead of jason's hand-tommy should have hacked his head-cut into the next scene to quick-maybe-maybe not


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on October 27, 2009, 11:44:07 AM
As this is a pretty long thread, I wasn't sure if this was posted already, so check out this Korean commercial for The Final Chapter. Pretty cool!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPvxAEu5aEs[/youtube]


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Fallen on October 27, 2009, 03:28:01 PM
i watched most of part 4 last night. you know what always confused me a bit? when they were having their party and the one twin is kind of rejected by the guy with the girlfriend. why did the other twin signal for her to take jimbo upstairs? it looked like they were planning something.

I think the twin was bored and that signal was saying "lets leave" but the other one really wanted to get laid.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: maestro710 on October 28, 2009, 02:57:14 AM
Just watched this again last night.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that this film is filmed back at the original Camp Crystal Lake and it recaptures the original atmosphere of the first film.

 Part III was filmed elsewhere for some reason and it showed although I don't mind that film and I actually like the barn adding to the sense of danger in that movie.

 Jason at the end looked like something from outer space didn't really look human at all.

Why on earth would those kids go swimming at that time of night.

A link between Elvis Presley and Jason Voorhees? Who'd have thought it!

Joan Freeman who played the mum starred with Elvis in "Roustabout".


The first two movies were filmed in New Jersey and Connecticut.

Part III was filmed at Veluzat Motion Picture Rentals in Newhall, CA.
The barn still stands but the cabin burned down.
They had to literally build a lake for the water scenes. It was pretty much in the desert, lol.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=&ie=UTF8&hl=en&geocode=FcKaCAIdw2ru-A&split=0

Part IV was filmed somewhere in Topanga, CA
They still rent out the house as a filming location.
The party house that was built for the movie is gone, but the "Jarvis" house still stands.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=1801+North+Topanga+Canyon+Boulevard,Topanga,CA+90290 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=1801+North+Topanga+Canyon+Boulevard,Topanga,CA+90290)

Part IV does seem to recapture that "Crystal Lake feel" even though it was filmed not far from parrt III. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: mangler on October 28, 2009, 08:06:10 AM
I saw 6 before this one as a kid, so I had to go back and check it out. The flashback at the start of 6 made me anxious to see 4. Weird that Corey Feldman was in this kinda movie then, but he did a good job as Tommy. They had cute chicks and plenty of tits in this one too. Some of the better kills in the series also. Always read Ted White was surly on the set and it shows in his performance, cuz Jason is pretty pissed in 4.

It was fucked up how they had Rob get killed without any kinda showdown wit Jason. They had a good angle wit Sandra's death, but did nothin but have him cry like a bitch while Jason finished him. Chris' backstory was kinda halfassed, but it did lead to the conclusion in 3 bein an extra cool fight. But Jason's death was brutal. The way they did the endin, they damn sure were plannin for this to be the last one. Shit was the best last stand in a slasher flick, ironically by a lil kid.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Giganta on November 24, 2009, 04:13:17 PM
Trish is such a great character I would have liked to have seen Rob live so Trish and him could hook up lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on November 26, 2009, 04:08:37 AM
I think the twin was bored and that signal was saying "lets leave" but the other one really wanted to get laid.
Yeah that's what I thought.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: cbgamer4life on November 26, 2009, 05:23:20 AM
Would the 'deleted' ending where Jason's head is cut almost in half end the series, was this supposed to be the 'final friday' ??


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 26, 2009, 11:35:06 AM
part 4 does capture the classic friday feel..... id love to see the jarvis house one day.. but ill never get out that way......i do however LOVE the lost ending for this...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MrsV on November 30, 2009, 08:26:19 PM
That lost ending is so awesome! I had been wanting to see that forever...I even had that long discussion on here with Kat about seeing that one part in the trailer. LOL!!

Speaking of the part 4 house, I don't think I posted too many locations on here, if I did, sorry...but here is one of the Jarvis kitchen. :)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b231/horrorgirl13/100_0405.jpg)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on November 30, 2009, 08:52:42 PM
^
you lucky girl!...thats n awesome pic


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on December 01, 2009, 12:51:17 AM
OMGOSH that's so cool!

If I had a video camera, I'd like re-enact the scenes lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MrsV on December 01, 2009, 10:02:50 AM
Thanks! We actually DID re-enact some scenes at the part 3 house. LOL!! Can't believe I admitted that one. Hehe


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on December 01, 2009, 02:11:17 PM
Let's see those pics, too!!  :D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MrsV on December 01, 2009, 03:43:14 PM
The pics, sure...the videos...NEVER!! ROFL!! I did do one silly shot of my hand pushing away a log like Chris does from the canoe at the end. LOLOL!!! Maybe I'll post that one. I'm a dork what can I say?   ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Starman on December 01, 2009, 04:13:13 PM
wow cool pic with kitchen... jarvis sandwich lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 01, 2009, 06:34:55 PM
wow cool pic with kitchen... jarvis sandwich lol

LOL


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on December 01, 2009, 09:01:26 PM
I still feel bad for the hitcher in Part 4.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 01, 2009, 10:34:52 PM
I still feel bad for the hitcher in Part 4.


i feel bad for her banana  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Starman on December 03, 2009, 12:58:32 AM
I still feel bad for the hitcher in Part 4.

an fat hippie chick?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on December 03, 2009, 02:27:11 PM
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i feel bad for her banana

Ha Ha, indeed.  ;)

Bonnie Hellman, who played the hitchhiker, still does a ton of acting today. She was recently in Desperate Housewives and the Disney show Wizards of Waverly place. She's in the minoroty of actors from the Friday franchise that went on to have a real good acting career.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Starman on December 03, 2009, 11:10:43 PM
that funny with hitcher chick and with finger lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: kingofzombies on May 14, 2010, 11:10:19 AM
I saw the hitchhiker chick in the Get Smart movie, and I was like HOLY HELL! She was in Friday 4! lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on May 14, 2010, 04:57:20 PM
Thanks! We actually DID re-enact some scenes at the part 3 house. LOL!! Can't believe I admitted that one. Hehe
i think that's awesome !!
no shame at all , in fact i think you're pretty lucky !?
most of us will never have the chance to do that ......

kudos to you !  :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 22, 2010, 04:50:50 AM
that funny with hitcher chick and with finger lol

Her kill was a real nasty one. I mean, it was one that I thought was really disgusting.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Starman on August 10, 2010, 04:10:35 PM
ok i just finish watching part 5 (the final chapter) yesterday for the friday the 13th series marathon this week and i got a question:

in scene where jason at tommy's room door that trish smash tv in jason's head and when jason is getting up for ready to kill and jason choose who will kill first and why jason choose to chasing trish? i guess jason why to chasing girl? lol so anyway jusy curious and i like that scene.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 3timesbefore on August 10, 2010, 05:31:36 PM
ok i just finish watching part 5 (the final chapter) yesterday for the friday the 13th series marathon this week and i got a question:

in scene where jason at tommy's room door that trish smash tv in jason's head and when jason is getting up for ready to kill and jason choose who will kill first and why jason choose to chasing trish? i guess jason why to chasing girl? lol so anyway jusy curious and i like that scene.

There's some debate about why Jason went for Trish instead of Tommy. Was it because she was the bigger threat to him, plus a teenager trespassing on his territory, or because he couldn't bring himself to harm a child? I think it's because he didn't want to hurt a child. Also, Tommy hadn't done anything to him at that point in the movie. After the machete strike, though...I think if Jason had crawled out of the grave and Tommy was still a kid, all bets would be off.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 10, 2010, 06:05:56 PM

in scene where jason at tommy's room door that trish smash tv in jason's head and when jason is getting up for ready to kill and jason choose who will kill first and why jason choose to chasing trish? i guess jason why to chasing girl? lol so anyway jusy curious and i like that scene.

I think it's because Trish was more of a priority but I do like the fact that going after Tommy was even being considered in his mind hence why he took a bit to decide. It's his preference to go after teens afterall, and not children.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: SirMWK on August 10, 2010, 09:32:00 PM
ok i just finish watching part 5 (the final chapter) yesterday for the friday the 13th series marathon this week and i got a question:

in scene where jason at tommy's room door that trish smash tv in jason's head and when jason is getting up for ready to kill and jason choose who will kill first and why jason choose to chasing trish? i guess jason why to chasing girl? lol so anyway jusy curious and i like that scene.

It's simple: Because Trish could have gotten away easier. Who would you have taken off after? The kid who could only run as far as his bedroom or the girl who could have run down the stairs and out the front door?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MrsV on August 11, 2010, 10:13:10 AM
Going back a few pages, I like the idea someone had about the twins robbing the party people. Very interesting.
Although I also felt Teri is signaling Tina to go after Jimmy. I never got the feeling she was asking her to leave cause she would have just gotten up and said so.
I love when she calls her a slut! LOL


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on August 11, 2010, 12:33:44 PM
It's simple: Because Trish could have gotten away easier. Who would you have taken off after? The kid who could only run as far as his bedroom or the girl who could have run down the stairs and out the front door?

That is actually a good point, but if he chased after her, the farther she ran, the farther the kid could have so either way, Jason would have to make the choice with the other being able to potentially get away for good.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: SirMWK on August 11, 2010, 12:53:32 PM
That is actually a good point, but if he chased after her, the farther she ran, the farther the kid could have so either way, Jason would have to make the choice with the other being able to potentially get away for good.

I believe Jason underestimated her. It seemed to me that he figured he'd get her before she even got down the stairs and Tommy would be trapped. Haha.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Killer-C on August 11, 2010, 01:34:35 PM
I just figured she posed more of a threat than tommy so get her first


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 02:33:40 PM
FYI Axel's nurse at the beginning is Babs from the Back to the Future franchise. She's Lorraine's friend. She's at the table when George tells Lorraine that she's his density.

She's also in the second movie, walking with Lorraine after buying her dress for the dance.

Maybe everyone already knows this, but I thought it was cool info.

Also, I thought she was sexy as hell.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: maSta prAylude on August 11, 2010, 02:44:08 PM
i have watched both friday4, and the back the future movies, a lot.....
and i never noticed that.
cool little bit of information.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 02:46:32 PM
i have watched both friday4, and the back the future movies, a lot.....
and i never noticed that.
cool little bit of information.

I think I may have gotten that from Crystal Lake Memories. Or maybe from IMDB. I didn't recognize her though. I watched both of those movies for years and never realized who she was.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on August 11, 2010, 02:59:49 PM
FYI Axel's nurse at the beginning is Babs from the Back to the Future franchise. She's Lorraine's friend. She's at the table when George tells Lorraine that she's his density.

She's also in the second movie, walking with Lorraine after buying her dress for the dance.

Maybe everyone already knows this, but I thought it was cool info.

Also, I thought she was sexy as hell.

Really? I never noticed that before, so there are actually 2 Friday the 13th Part 4 co-stars in the film..very interesting. I'll have to watch out for her next time I check out the BTTF films.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on August 11, 2010, 03:05:01 PM
Really? I never noticed that before, so there are actually 2 Friday the 13th Part 4 co-stars in the film..very interesting. I'll have to watch out for her next time I check out the BTTF films.

Oh, right. Crispin Glover. Yeah, there are two Friday the 13th 4 co-stars in that movie. Who woulda thunk it?

By the way, Lisa Freeman is the actress' name. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jasonsfury on August 11, 2010, 05:45:52 PM
Lisa Freeman is also in Savage Streets, which is the movie A New Beginning director Danny Steinman directed before taking on Part 5.  ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on August 13, 2010, 12:48:16 PM
I really wish Paramount would get off their asses and make this movie a Blu-Ray. They made the first three Blu-Rays for the remake, but the remake was based on the first four movies. I don't get why they didn't make The Final Chapter a Blu-Ray.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Pine Hurst on October 10, 2010, 11:04:04 AM
I think of the first 5 movies, this is probably the most well acted, most brutal, and best directed. At the same, I don't find it quite as much fun as 2,3 and 5. Or 6 or 7, JGTH, and the remake, for that matter.

The tone and deaths are so brutal, but the party house stuff is pretty dull. It brings the movie down.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 10, 2010, 03:37:19 PM
I really wish Paramount would get off their asses and make this movie a Blu-Ray. They made the first three Blu-Rays for the remake, but the remake was based on the first four movies. I don't get why they didn't make The Final Chapter a Blu-Ray.
that's a good point Rich . let's hope they get their act together on this !?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Blake on October 11, 2010, 03:38:28 PM
I think of the first 5 movies, this is probably the most well acted, most brutal, and best directed. At the same, I don't find it quite as much fun as 2,3 and 5. Or 6 or 7, JGTH, and the remake, for that matter.

The tone and deaths are so brutal, but the party house stuff is pretty dull. It brings the movie down.

I think it is for sure the best acted. I would say that part 7 is the most brutal tho.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on October 13, 2010, 05:41:09 PM
I think it is for sure the best acted. I would say that part 7 is the most brutal tho.

Part 7 would be the most brutal, but the MPAA did butt-fuck it and left it to die.
lol, but that's that's my opinion


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on October 13, 2010, 08:56:54 PM
I think 4 and 5 are the meanest ones.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 13, 2010, 10:37:44 PM
its too bad jimbo didnt get to have a 3 way with the twins...i always wish that when she goes to the bedroom door to get her sister...  jimbo could quielt call "why dont you join us?"  ;D ;)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on October 13, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
Those twins had LAME outfits on.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 16, 2010, 11:28:03 AM
its too bad jimbo didnt get to have a 3 way with the twins...i always wish that when she goes to the bedroom door to get her sister...  jimbo could quielt call "why dont you join us?"  ;D ;)
that would've been a great addition to the film , jimmyd !!!
Jimbo was kind of nerdy until he got the girl . his confidence was on the rise and i can totally see him trying to nail both sisters ." put that into your computer .. the computer doesn't lie !! lol "

now you have me thinking about another change in the movie .
how cool would it have been to see a triple kill ? kind of like the double impalement of Jeff and Sandra in pt2 ??


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on October 16, 2010, 11:50:20 AM
Those twins had LAME outfits on.


I liked their pink sweaters when you first see them, but those hair buns and those tucked in pink striped shirts were AWFUL!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 16, 2010, 05:02:34 PM
Hesvor..triple kill in pt 6..JV cuts those paintballers in half lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 16, 2010, 05:49:03 PM
Hesvor..triple kill in pt 6..JV cuts those paintballers in half lol
LOL good call brother jimmyd !!
i have to admit i forgot that one when i posted .

however , i was replying to a thread on pt4 , and your comment about Jimbo and the twins !!

any-hoooo , i'm kind of in the mood to watch pt6 again seeing as i'm in for the night with a sore stomach .
p.s. Jennifer Cooke = total blonde babe hottness !!! :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on October 17, 2010, 10:41:52 PM
I wish Jimbo's death hadn't been edited.
Those twins just had zero style.

They looked so lame on those bikes. LOL


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 17, 2010, 10:50:39 PM
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x250/Wings1295/Blog%20Pics/Jason/twins.jpg)

i loved them with their one shouldered cut up sweatshirts.. lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on October 17, 2010, 11:10:51 PM
Were they like the RV chick in Part VI? They rode that trail all the time to pick up men? Hmm.....Interesting. :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 17, 2010, 11:19:47 PM
Were they like the RV chick in Part VI? They rode that trail all the time to pick up men? Hmm.....Interesting. :jason4:


LOL chad... that brings back fond, funny memories in the pt6 thread.. you know what.. i bet they did JUST that too... those damn british hussys! ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on October 17, 2010, 11:24:47 PM
Dirty little skanks! LOL
 "ok, here comes a group of people. You know what to do."

"WHOA!!!! Our brakes are out!!!"


Did they know there was a maniac on the loose?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: maSta prAylude on October 20, 2010, 06:49:06 PM
I don't know about you guys, but whenever Jimmy starts dancing to that music with the twin, every time i laugh or make fun of him, and feel embarrassed for him..

but

It was so funny last night, I was at my girlfriend's house watching Friday part 4, and this scene came on. Her dad has never seen the movie before. He was like "what the hell kind of dance is this?"  Then when the movie cut the music off and jimmy says "why did you turn the music off?"  Her dad said "cause you're a fucking spaz."

I laughed for quite awhile.  I love when new people watch Friday flicks. Some shit like this is fucking hilarious!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 3timesbefore on October 20, 2010, 07:08:02 PM
Glover had courage for letting go of his inhibitions - or maybe he just didn't have any  8)

Love Is A Lie is a classic song and I really can't picture The Final Chapter without it, but my intense love for Back In Black sometimes makes me wish AC/DC had given permission for them to use it as originally planned. Can anyone honestly say that the opening of that song isn't a slice of fried gold? Maybe there could have been two Crispin dance scenes, one with Love, and the other with Back. That would not only make Final Chapter the best Friday, but the best movie Paramount ever made. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: maSta prAylude on October 20, 2010, 07:09:33 PM
I just love the reaction of people whenever it's their first time seeing this dance, ahaha.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Boognish94 on October 20, 2010, 07:17:16 PM
Fri 13th 4 Had the most ''entertaining'' teens for sure :)

yeah the whole "Dead Fuck" dialogue with Teddy and Jimbo is hilarious


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: maSta prAylude on October 20, 2010, 07:18:25 PM
the scene of axle getting his throat cut open with that hack saw, always makes me cringe..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stan Below on November 08, 2010, 11:03:54 AM
This is probably my favorite Friday movie. It's really scary, showy slasher that can scare even in our years.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 08, 2010, 11:07:33 AM
This is probably my favorite Friday movie. It's really scary, showy slasher that can scare even in our years.


I see you know your shit, Stan! Good job!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Batty Part 2 on November 10, 2010, 12:54:05 PM
the scene of axle getting his throat cut open with that hack saw, always makes me cringe..

Charlie Bowls?

I don't really care for the Final Chapter much, but Lisa Freeman sure is nice to look at for all of two minutes.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 11, 2010, 11:27:51 AM
Charlie Bowls?

That's the only thing I always hated about the original Halloween. I really wanted to hear the rest of that story! I mean, I know Charlie excused himself from the table, kissed his wife and two kids god bye, and got himself a hacksaw, but then what damn it?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on November 11, 2010, 12:14:41 PM
That's the only thing I always hated about the original Halloween. I really wanted to hear the rest of that story! I mean, I know Charlie excused himself from the table, kissed his wife and two kids god bye, and got himself a hacksaw, but then what damn it?

ME TO!! Fuck I was interested until, they fucking stopped  it. what the hell??


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on November 12, 2010, 10:31:59 AM
ME TO!! Fuck I was interested until, they fucking stopped  it. what the hell??

The worst part is more than likely nobody will ever tell us the rest of the story. That eats at me every time I watch that movie (making it a frequent problem.)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: locdasmoke on December 20, 2010, 12:29:38 AM
I use to love this movie, but I watched it today and now I really didn't care for it that much anymore. I kinda almost agree with what Batty Part 2 thinks about this movie now


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 20, 2010, 12:09:25 PM
I stand by my statement in the Ebert review Friday IV thread: Any slasher film will look like shit next to the real Halloween, but when compared to other horror films and especially amongst it's own series this film is a great piece of horror history.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 20, 2010, 12:48:33 PM
although this one has a bunch of unanswered questions like pt 2.. i love it to pieces lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on December 20, 2010, 01:01:46 PM
I have a great attachment to this one, being my first horror movie that I saw. I really love the dark atmosphere the film has and I think that's attributed to Zito for his previous work on the Prowler. In my opinion this movie is superior than the last one, Part 3, which I never really held a great fondness for, other than the kooky characters, not to say that this movie doesn't have it's share of comedy. In terms of production values, and acting this one is definitely my favorite along with Part 2.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Dizzy on December 20, 2010, 07:40:42 PM
That's the only thing I always hated about the original Halloween. I really wanted to hear the rest of that story! I mean, I know Charlie excused himself from the table, kissed his wife and two kids god bye, and got himself a hacksaw, but then what damn it?

Any ending they gave you would've just been some banal description of violence, and you would've reacted by saying "oh.  okay."  It was better to not answer it, because then our imagination takes over.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on December 31, 2010, 03:12:50 PM
Any ending they gave you would've just been some banal description of violence, and you would've reacted by saying "oh.  okay."  It was better to not answer it, because then our imagination takes over.

I dont like it when movies want you to imagine what happens, becuase i imagine it, but I really want to know what happens the whole "imagine" thing isnt as affective as they say in interviews and etc


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on December 31, 2010, 04:37:29 PM
I dont like it when movies want you to imagine what happens, becuase i imagine it, but I really want to know what happens the whole "imagine" thing isnt as affective as they say in interviews and etc

Well it really goes back to the ideology behind Jaws. Spielberg wasn't able to completely use the shark as much as he wanted to because of funding, and the shark itself malfunctioning. So the idea came to use the camera as the predator to create the tension and suspense. Depending on the film it can really make or break a movie, it worked well in Halloween and Jaws. Nowadays though, people do want to see the intestines pour out of the body and the veins to be severed. As makeup/prosthetics advance to a more realistic fashion, people really want to see the damage on screen.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on December 31, 2010, 05:43:43 PM
Well it really goes back to the ideology behind Jaws. Spielberg wasn't able to completely use the shark as much as he wanted to because of funding, and the shark itself malfunctioning. So the idea came to use the camera as the predator to create the tension and suspense. Depending on the film it can really make or break a movie, it worked well in Halloween and Jaws. Nowadays though, people do want to see the intestines pour out of the body and the veins to be severed. As makeup/prosthetics advance to a more realistic fashion, people really want to see the damage on screen.

It did work in Jaws, but torward the end of it we got to SEE the shark


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 01, 2011, 12:39:53 AM
It did work in Jaws, but torward the end of it we got to SEE the shark

And that's why Jaws worked so well, we didn't see the beast until right at the end. I think that's why the early Jason films worked so well, because Jason wasn't revealed until right near the end.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on January 01, 2011, 12:59:09 AM
That's one of the things I love most about pt4..that JV only pops out at kills till the end...too see JV walkin all over..seeing him in his lair(09)..takes away from his mysteriousness...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 01, 2011, 02:20:11 AM
That's one of the things I love most about pt4..that JV only pops out at kills till the end...too see JV walkin all over..seeing him in his lair(09)..takes away from his mysteriousness...

Yeah, it really does in a lot of ways. Of course, I think that brings us back to live Jason v. zombie Jason. Live Jason felt the need to be stealthy and keep himself hidden longer, whereas Zombie Jason was "What the fuck are they going to do to me? Kill me?" and didn't care who saw him.

As far as the whole seeing him in his lair thing in the remake/reboot/regurgitation goes that's still kind of a mixed bag for me. I mean, the tunnels explained a lot and took away that whole stupid "Jason teleports" shit, but it definitely showed too much. Though, I can see why they'd do it since it had been done in Firday 2 with great success.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Dizzy on January 01, 2011, 03:44:39 AM
I dont like it when movies want you to imagine what happens, becuase i imagine it, but I really want to know what happens the whole "imagine" thing isnt as affective as they say in interviews and etc

In most cases, I disagree.

In that particular case, just think if the dude had said "he got himself a hacksaw, then he went upstairs and hacked everybody up with that saw!"   It's like blah blah blah, ordinary ordinary ordinary.  It works much better without telling us what the guy did, because we can imagine for ourselves what it was, and it's much more horrifying that way.  For cryin' out loud, the person in the story is being compared to Michael Myers, so even if you're not very imaginative, the door is left wide open.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 01, 2011, 03:55:59 AM
In most cases, I disagree.

In that particular case, just think if the dude had said "he got himself a hacksaw, then he went upstairs and hacked everybody up with that saw!"   It's like blah blah blah, ordinary ordinary ordinary.  It works much better without telling us what the guy did, because we can imagine for ourselves what it was, and it's much more horrifying that way.  For cryin' out loud, the person in the story is being compared to Michael Myers, so even if you're not very imaginative, the door is left wide open.

LOL, very true. I had never really thought about it that way, Diz. to me it was always a little like being teased, but looking at it from that perspective does offer something new to the whole thing. The Charlie Bowles thing would make for a great fan film though.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on April 25, 2011, 12:50:41 PM
I loved the film and the series But In my opinion Jason voorhees Looked retarded, but it is my opinion I'm aslo Retarted .xD


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on April 25, 2011, 11:57:53 PM
Jason It was funny the dance, I just like How tommy tried to make a connection with Jason..

Pink.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on April 27, 2011, 08:05:46 PM
And that's why Jaws worked so well, we didn't see the beast until right at the end. I think that's why the early Jason films worked so well, because Jason wasn't revealed until right near the end.

Yeah but, I honestly don't think I would even liked Jaws as much if we never seen the shark.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: tucker on April 27, 2011, 09:01:57 PM
watched again last night, the last half hour of this movie remains as tense and scary as ever, a classic i love it, its hard to think that this movie and jason x are connected and a shame, jason vorhees is great here i love it, hes a psycho, and the scariest of them all in my opinion :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: SirMWK on April 28, 2011, 03:14:01 AM
Yeah but, I honestly don't think I would even liked Jaws as much if we never seen the shark.

He meant that it worked better with them keeping Jason mostly off screen for the majority of the film. That's why the first four are great. They had SUSPENSE instead of just showing Jason every five seconds.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Evildead13th on April 28, 2011, 09:51:05 AM
Yes, I strongly agree on that one! The Final Chapter is one of my favorites in the series. :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on April 29, 2011, 07:48:16 PM
INfact the final chapter is my favioute in the series.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on April 29, 2011, 08:04:36 PM
 This flick is mos def one of the top friday flicks...even with the few unanswered questions.....the suspense is great and the ending is priceless! Too bad corey didn't star in 5....but if he didn't do goonies..well..I don't even wanna think about that lol...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Shuttle on April 29, 2011, 08:29:32 PM
Yeah that explained it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Struckworld on May 11, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
He meant that it worked better with them keeping Jason mostly off screen for the majority of the film. That's why the first four are great. They had SUSPENSE instead of just showing Jason every five seconds.

My bad.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: coolj712 on May 16, 2011, 04:50:48 PM
my favriot of the series i loved the kills and everything about it


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: slasherfan on May 30, 2011, 07:07:39 PM
Did anyone ever wonder what the size of Crystal Lake was given the murders going on over the course of a single weekend?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Spectre1428 on May 30, 2011, 07:19:58 PM
Did anyone ever wonder what the size of Crystal Lake was given the murders going on over the course of a single weekend?

I remember seeing somewhere before a makeshift map of the Crystal Lake area with locations where each film could have potentially took place. I don't recall where to find it again but I'm sure someone could offer some assistance.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on May 30, 2011, 10:37:30 PM
I remember that too....its funny how Paul in pt2 mentioned that Crystal lake was bear country..and Tommy refutes that in 4


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on May 30, 2011, 10:45:09 PM
I always took that to mean it wasn't bear season.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on May 30, 2011, 10:50:30 PM
I did too ..but then I remembered that 4 takes place 2 days after 2...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on May 30, 2011, 10:54:03 PM
I did too ..but then I remembered that 4 takes place 2 days after 2...

Oh yeah!!  :-X

Wait...does it?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: slasherfan on May 31, 2011, 06:40:01 AM
Any way you look at it, Jason must know his way around to make the time that he does!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 03, 2011, 07:04:41 AM
Oh yeah!!  :-X

Wait...does it?
I thought it was supposed to be the same day/weekend.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 22, 2011, 10:52:42 PM
The beginning of 4 starts with them cleaning up from pt 3...then JV kills axel and the nurse...then it cuts to the next day..or a few days after....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 23, 2011, 06:37:35 AM
The beginning of 4 starts with them cleaning up from pt 3...then JV kills axel and the nurse...then it cuts to the next day..or a few days after....

It's not like there was ever any respect to continuity in the series.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on June 26, 2011, 05:36:47 PM
It's not like there was ever any respect to continuity in the series.


I have always thought of 1-4 as the first "saga" 5-7 as the 2nd...then it gets crazy from there...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on June 27, 2011, 04:11:54 AM
It's not like there was ever any respect to continuity in the series.

Continuity? Continuity? Con-tin-u-it-y. That's a funny word, what does it mean?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on June 27, 2011, 05:48:28 AM
Continuity? Continuity? Con-tin-u-it-y. That's a funny word, what does it mean?

Well, in the real world, it means that things progess in a straight line and events take place in a logical order.  But this is a slasher movie franchise we're talking about.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ZombieKeeper on July 04, 2011, 01:20:39 PM
The second best in the series IMHO. Loved seeing Corey do his thing at the end of the film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on July 04, 2011, 01:35:25 PM
The second best in the series IMHO. Loved seeing Corey do his thing at the end of the film.

I liked this movie, but honestly it's not because of Corey. Ted White as Jason really carried this pic along with Tom Savini's awesome FX.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ZombieKeeper on July 05, 2011, 07:04:11 PM
I liked this movie, but honestly it's not because of Corey. Ted White as Jason really carried this pic along with Tom Savini's awesome FX.

No argument from me  :emojack:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on July 05, 2011, 09:26:49 PM

I have always thought of 1-4 as the first "saga" 5-7 as the 2nd...then it gets crazy from there...
a great point !!

there's mos def a first 'version ' of the series , and Jason ... then there's round 2 and the ZOMBIE (B.S.) editions ...and then there's round 3 ,( even MORE !!!!!!!! B.S. ) with the crap body jumping /space /FVJ shit they tried to pull ?

sorry , zombie lovers , but F13th isn't meant to be a supernatural tale !!!
Cunningham had a goldmine in the 1st story ... , Miner MORE than compensated in the 2nd ..... after that ? the story and the legend , fell very , very , very FLAT .




Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 06, 2011, 07:02:43 AM
a great point !!

there's mos def a first 'version ' of the series , and Jason ... then there's round 2 and the ZOMBIE (B.S.) editions ...and then there's round 3 ,( even MORE !!!!!!!! B.S. ) with the crap body jumping /space /FVJ shit they tried to pull ?

sorry , zombie lovers , but F13th isn't meant to be a supernatural tale !!!
Cunningham had a goldmine in the 1st story ... , Miner MORE than compensated in the 2nd ..... after that ? the story and the legend , fell very , very , very FLAT .




ONG, I love this post!!!!!  You said everything I've thought for a long time.  Give the guy a cigar.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ProwlerChad on July 21, 2011, 07:52:55 PM
White is the scariest of the earlier Jasons. He was so mean in Part 4.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on July 22, 2011, 09:04:43 AM
White is the scariest of the earlier Jasons. He was so mean in Part 4.

LOL, probably because he's the only one who actually wanted to kill the person he was after. I'm looking at you, Feldman!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 22, 2011, 09:47:24 AM
HAHAHA!!  :D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 22, 2011, 12:12:23 PM
White is the scariest of the earlier Jasons. He was so mean in Part 4.

How do you think he compared to Hodder?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 22, 2011, 01:16:25 PM
I don't think he was all that scary in this one, I mean he WAS, but not so much more than any other...I think, in this installment, Jason is fed up and more pissy than usual.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 22, 2011, 03:09:54 PM
I don't think he was all that scary in this one, I mean he WAS, but not so much more than any other...I think, in this installment, Jason is fed up and more pissy than usual.

That would seem to explain all the carnage over a single weekend, don't you think


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 22, 2011, 07:16:48 PM
For sure.  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: sake on July 22, 2011, 09:21:38 PM
White is the scariest of the earlier Jasons. He was so mean in Part 4.
I think White is second scariest Jason in whole serie (scariest is Brooker imo)... and I don't like Hodder's Jason at all


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 25, 2011, 06:23:17 AM
I think White is second scariest Jason in whole serie (scariest is Brooker imo)... and I don't like Hodder's Jason at all

How come?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on July 25, 2011, 06:59:02 AM
I agree with 'sake'. I don't think it's Hodder as much as it is that he came in when Jason sort of became the hero, rather than the villian..and the movies lost it's impact as result.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 25, 2011, 08:32:06 AM
I agree with 'sake'. I don't think it's Hodder as much as it is that he came in when Jason sort of became the hero, rather than the villian..and the movies lost it's impact as result.

Jason became the hero because people sort of got used to the camp in the movies, and the movies lost the im pact because everything was becoming a joke IMO.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 25, 2011, 09:30:44 AM
Right on, Stalker.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 25, 2011, 09:53:18 AM
Right on, Stalker.

Glad to have someone agree with at least ONE of my posts.  You're a smart one.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on July 25, 2011, 11:20:22 AM
Jason became the hero because people sort of got used to the camp in the movies, and the movies lost the im pact because everything was becoming a joke IMO.
Which is why the later sequels aren't favs of mine.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 25, 2011, 02:06:22 PM
Glad you like Brooker though!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 25, 2011, 04:40:42 PM
Which is why the later sequels aren't favs of mine.

Well, yeah...but I don't consider them "later sequels" until after part 7. I don't see anything campy until part 8.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on July 25, 2011, 10:07:39 PM
Idk they're just different to me. I separate 1-4, 5, 6-8, JGTH-FvJ. When I said they aren't favs, doesn't mean I don't like them, just that I prefer the early Fridays.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 26, 2011, 06:46:01 AM
Idk they're just different to me. I separate 1-4, 5, 6-8, JGTH-FvJ. When I said they aren't favs, doesn't mean I don't like them, just that I prefer the early Fridays.

I have the funny feeling most people separate them like you do, but I'm not 100% sure. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 26, 2011, 09:01:16 AM
I agree...most people seem to. I don't get it though. OK, I can maybe see 7 being left out, what with the psychic powers and all...but what about part 6? How is it any different than, say, part 2?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 26, 2011, 09:02:04 AM
And wait...you just lumped 6 in with 8? Off to gouge my eyes out after reading that...

 :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on July 26, 2011, 11:20:20 AM
And wait...you just lumped 6 in with 8? Off to gouge my eyes out after reading that...

 :P

LOL, yeah, talk about comparing ice cream to horse manure.......


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Black_Panther on July 26, 2011, 12:25:08 PM
Different strokes.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 27, 2011, 07:15:49 AM
I agree...most people seem to. I don't get it though. OK, I can maybe see 7 being left out, what with the psychic powers and all...but what about part 6? How is it any different than, say, part 2?

I think the reason for lumping 6, 7 and 8 togerther is they were made in about 3-4 years, but they don't seem the really connect to each other at all.  They're more stand alones than connected.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 27, 2011, 08:10:28 AM
I think the reason for lumping 6, 7 and 8 togerther is they were made in about 3-4 years, but they don't seem the really connect to each other at all.  They're more stand alones than connected.

I agree w/that. But I still really really think 6 feels like the earlier ones. I mean, remove 5 and I think you could lump 1-6 together nicely.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 27, 2011, 01:05:19 PM
I agree w/that. But I still really really think 6 feels like the earlier ones. I mean, remove 5 and I think you could lump 1-6 together nicely.

After all, part 5 is its own stand alone.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 27, 2011, 01:16:58 PM
Agreed. :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: SirMWK on July 28, 2011, 05:05:50 AM
6 shows too much of Jason to be like the first four. It lacks the suspense the previous ones had.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 28, 2011, 06:51:57 AM
6 shows too much of Jason to be like the first four. It lacks the suspense the previous ones had.

Of course, it DOES have the triple decapitation.  Suspense DOES have its advantages.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 28, 2011, 08:13:28 AM
That reminds me...it also has that smiley face in the tree...lol...ok, ok, I'm beginning to see the difference, lol! :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on July 28, 2011, 11:40:04 AM
That reminds me...it also has that smiley face in the tree...lol...ok, ok, I'm beginning to see the difference, lol! :)

I LOVE the scene with the smiley face.  Json's holding the guy's severed arm like he has no idea what to make of it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on July 28, 2011, 12:13:30 PM
I LOVE the scene with the smiley face.  Json's holding the guy's severed arm like he has no idea what to make of it.

Yeah, he's all "Did I do that?!"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on August 01, 2011, 12:02:40 AM
Yeah, he's all "Did I do that?!"

LOL, you just turned Jason into Steve Urkel!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on August 01, 2011, 07:10:24 AM
LOL, you just turned Jason into Sreve Urkel!

Actuslly, the writers did, but you have a point.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on December 04, 2011, 03:44:08 AM
Even though they didn't show it on screen, I can picture Jason looking down at the body of the girl he pulled out the window.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 04, 2011, 10:59:37 AM
Even though they didn't show it on screen, I can picture Jason looking down at the body of the girl he pulled out the window.

This scene actually does exist in a TV edit of the movie. I believe, but can't swear to it, that it's in the Monstervision TNT edit.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 04, 2011, 05:06:41 PM
This scene actually does exist in a TV edit of the movie. I believe, but can't swear to it, that it's in the Monstervision TNT edit.
I guess Jason needs to check his own woek once in a while.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 05, 2011, 06:21:05 AM
I guess Jason needs to check his own woek once in a while.

LOL, yeah, everyone needs to enjoy their own accomplishments.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 05, 2011, 07:08:15 AM
LOL, yeah, everyone needs to enjoy their own accomplishments.
Nothing like savoring the moment.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 05, 2011, 08:40:40 AM
Nothing like savoring the moment.

I think it adds something to the character of Jason, just like it did to Michael Myers, to see them enjoying their work for lack of a better word. It gives them an air of realism, linking them to a behavior of real serial killers.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 05, 2011, 09:35:26 AM
I think it adds something to the character of Jason, just like it did to Michael Myers, to see them enjoying their work for lack of a better word. It gives them an air of realism, linking them to a behavior of real serial killers.
Serial killers are noted for wanting trophies and to relive the moment.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 05, 2011, 09:45:32 AM
Serial killers are noted for wanting trophies and to relive the moment.

Hence the body pile in the shack.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 05, 2011, 10:08:18 AM
Hence the body pile in the shack.
Right next to Mom's head.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 07, 2011, 10:04:58 AM
Right next to Mom's head.

Well, every little boy wants to show Mommy his good work.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 07, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
Well, every little boy wants to show Mommy his good work.
Of course, this goes above and beyond getting an " A " on a spelling test.  WAY above and beyond.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 09, 2011, 12:41:12 PM
Of course, this goes above and beyond getting an " A " on a spelling test.  WAY above and beyond.

Yeah, and you can't exactly put these up on the fridge.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 09, 2011, 07:57:57 PM
Yeah, and you can't exactly put these up on the fridge.
Well, you CAN, if you have a good staple gun or something, but you have to make sure outsiders won't notice, at least not until it's THEIR turn for show and tell.  Well, maybe not the " tell " part.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 10, 2011, 10:33:12 AM
Well, you CAN, if you have a good staple gun or something, but you have to make sure outsiders won't notice, at least not until it's THEIR turn for show and tell.  Well, maybe not the " tell " part.

You'd need a nail gun I think. Something in a Dewalt pneumatic model would probably be the way to go.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 10, 2011, 04:18:37 PM
You'd need a nail gun I think. Something in a Dewalt pneumatic model would probably be the way to go.
Or a couple railroad spikes. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 11, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
Or a couple railroad spikes. 

That'll do!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 12, 2011, 06:58:33 AM
That'll do!
I would hope so.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 13, 2011, 11:23:38 AM
I would hope so.

Hey, if it's good enough to hang up a McFly......


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 13, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
Hey, if it's good enough to hang up a McFly......
Or a dead teenager. Run with it!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 16, 2011, 11:51:54 AM
Or a dead teenager. Run with it!!!!

But has anyone ever wondered what Jason used to drive the spikes through Jimbo's hands?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 16, 2011, 02:33:35 PM
But has anyone ever wondered what Jason used to drive the spikes through Jimbo's hands?
Probably not Jimbo.  He's not wondering about anything anymore.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on December 17, 2011, 10:18:37 PM
Probably not Jimbo.  He's not wondering about anything anymore.



I always questioned that too.. then I thought maybe they were the spikes from robs tent ..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 19, 2011, 08:04:42 AM


I always questioned that too.. then I thought maybe they were the spikes from robs tent ..

See, that's the thing, I don't know if tent spikes would hold up a human body, for one thing, since they're meant to hold down a much lighter object. And, two, the question remains, how did he drive them through Jimbo's hands and into the door frame deep enough to hang that body up by the hands? He would've had to have used some sort of tool, maybe the blunt end of an axe to do it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 19, 2011, 12:07:06 PM
See, that's the thing, I don't know if tent spikes would hold up a human body, for one thing, since they're meant to hold down a much lighter object. And, two, the question remains, how did he drive them through Jimbo's hands and into the door frame deep enough to hang that body up by the hands? He would've had to have used some sort of tool, maybe the blunt end of an axe to do it.
You're very cooly analytical about this, Jet.  Should I be worried?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on December 21, 2011, 03:24:24 AM
I think Jett is over thinking it.  :P That is cool though. That is what this board is for. I just want Jett to know he is over thinking it. If he knows it and is okay with that, then I'm okay with it too.  8)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 21, 2011, 06:31:43 AM
I think Jett is over thinking it.  :P That is cool though. That is what this board is for. I just want Jett to know he is over thinking it. If he knows it and is okay with that, then I'm okay with it too.  8)
Well, I guess little ole me makes 3!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 21, 2011, 11:42:41 AM
I think Jett is over thinking it.  :P That is cool though. That is what this board is for. I just want Jett to know he is over thinking it. If he knows it and is okay with that, then I'm okay with it too.  8)

CSI: Crystal Lake, bitches!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 21, 2011, 01:59:11 PM
CSI: Crystal Lake, bitches!
Sign me up!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 22, 2011, 08:57:20 AM
Sign me up!!!!

Okay, someone go through The Who! catalouge for a theme song.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 22, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Okay, someone go through The Who! catalouge for a theme song.
How about " Behind Blue Eyes"?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 24, 2011, 12:17:15 PM
How about " Behind Blue Eyes"?

Perfect! Especially with my eyes being blue.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 24, 2011, 03:34:23 PM
Perfect! Especially with my eyes being blue.
So we'll make you the main character?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 24, 2011, 10:19:09 PM
So we'll make you the main character?

Naturally.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 24, 2011, 10:38:01 PM
Naturally.
Can I be the lab technician?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 182 turk on December 26, 2011, 08:20:42 AM
i have seen the real dream ending to part 4 but what happend to tommy, sister trish


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Kat on December 26, 2011, 09:26:03 AM
i have seen the real dream ending to part 4 but what happend to tommy, sister trish

Nobody knows. Weirdly in the beginning of Pt. 5 they state that his whole family was killed..


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 26, 2011, 12:06:42 PM
Can I be the lab technician?

Of course.

Nobody knows. Weirdly in the beginning of Pt. 5 they state that his whole family was killed..

Yeah, and since Trish the devoted sister just vanished completely I think she died somehow after the fourth film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 26, 2011, 05:04:03 PM
Of course.

Yeah, and since Trish the devoted sister just vanished completely I think she died somehow after the fourth film.
That would probably explain why we never see or hear from Trish again.  She's probably somewhere near Paul, who we never see or hear from again either.  Strange coincidence?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on December 27, 2011, 12:18:39 PM
That would probably explain why we never see or hear from Trish again.  She's probably somewhere near Paul, who we never see or hear from again either.  Strange coincidence?

They met somewhere and ran away together, he always had a thing for blondes.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 27, 2011, 02:40:13 PM
They met somewhere and ran away together, he always had a thing for blondes.
Now he's got TWO!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: LEAHCIMZEREP on December 27, 2011, 09:00:39 PM
Who is Rob's sister. I saw the movie last october and I don't remember. :P


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalker on December 28, 2011, 07:09:36 AM
Who is Rob's sister. I saw the movie last october and I don't remember. :P
Sandra from part two, she was with Jeff.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on January 11, 2012, 10:56:47 PM
I forgot how much I enjoyed this one....it  has countless questions and gaps...but it still holds strong as a whole...the alter ate/deleted ending is awesome IMO....but I I dunno if I would as much if it were actually in the film....JV is portrayed awesome in this one...very manic and violent..yet manages to still be stealth between kills...one thing that grabbed me from the beginning was that at first I thought that doug and...sara (I think? ) were gonna be the main characters...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 12, 2012, 03:46:07 AM
I forgot how much I enjoyed this one....it  has countless questions and gaps...but it still holds strong as a whole...the alter ate/deleted ending is awesome IMO....but I I dunno if I would as much if it were actually in the film....JV is portrayed awesome in this one...very manic and violent..yet manages to still be stealth between kills...one thing that grabbed me from the beginning was that at first I thought that doug and...sara (I think? ) were gonna be the main characters...

Yeah, this movie really works well in spite of, or maybe because of, it's many faults.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on January 12, 2012, 09:04:30 PM
Yeah, this movie really works well in spite of, or maybe because of, it's many faults.



Exactly! The questions that this film raises seems to attract me to it more....maybe because I like to speculate and make up my own answers/ scenarios...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 13, 2012, 10:38:38 AM


Exactly! The questions that this film raises seems to attract me to it more....maybe because I like to speculate and make up my own answers/ scenarios...

Yeah, I'm the same way, I love to draw my own conclusions and speculate.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on January 17, 2012, 09:06:24 PM
Second best after Jason Lives and IMO the last truly scary film of the series, Jason has never been more menacing nor brutal. Ted White for sure had to be the most intimidating Jason ever, he's such a psychopath in this one. Add to an outstanding Jason portrayal some awesome and violent-as-Hell death scenes, the ominous darker-than-dark atmosphere and tone, good heroic characters in Tommy and Trish, and IMO the best finale of the series. TFC's easily one of the best F13 movies.
Hands down the best F13 sequel! I agree Ted White is hardcore! His portrayal of Jason is perfection. The only thing that really irritates me about this film is Rob's death. A whole lot of thought was put into his character only to have him so easily offed. Sad really. What a waste.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on January 17, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
I respect ted alot for the way he stood up for the cast to Ziti...to my understanding. Ziti was very demanding and had the cast working long hours and whatnot....I vaguely remember him threatening to walk unless he eased up a lil bit on them...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: DUKE1 on January 18, 2012, 12:06:16 AM
Hands down the best F13 sequel! I agree Ted White is hardcore! His portrayal of Jason is perfection. The only thing that really irritates me about this film is Rob's death. A whole lot of thought was put into his character only to have him so easily offed. Sad really. What a waste.
I have always wished ROB put up a fight, but as years passed and I have gotten older I believe this. Evryone can punch someone in the face everyone will protect thier own the best they can and everyone will want some revenge but ti act on that revenge would be the tuffest thing someone could face I'll tell you know I'd kill someone who hurts my children no doubt in my heart,but I don't know what would happen if I got said chance would I do it or freeze?  I have never been put in such a situation so I don't know if I truly could I can only tell you today I would. So with that Rob had balls had a small plan and went to work then possibly he went after Jason and was unprepared and of course our boy is...well different then a real person. overpower and possible froze but he did go after him,no reason to believe he anything more then a hunter of game not(un)human.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on January 18, 2012, 12:26:16 PM
I have always wished ROB put up a fight, but as years passed and I have gotten older I believe this. Evryone can punch someone in the face everyone will protect thier own the best they can and everyone will want some revenge but ti act on that revenge would be the tuffest thing someone could face I'll tell you know I'd kill someone who hurts my children no doubt in my heart,but I don't know what would happen if I got said chance would I do it or freeze?  I have never been put in such a situation so I don't know if I truly could I can only tell you today I would. So with that Rob had balls had a small plan and went to work then possibly he went after Jason and was unprepared and of course our boy is...well different then a real person. overpower and possible froze but he did go after him,no reason to believe he anything more then a hunter of game not(un)human.

The reason Rob died is because he was an idiot. He went into the woods with one gun to take on a serial killer, then leaves the gun in his tent when he goes for a walk, where it's destroyed. I can't feel too bad for someone who dumbs themselves to death.

Hands down the best F13 sequel! I agree Ted White is hardcore! His portrayal of Jason is perfection. The only thing that really irritates me about this film is Rob's death. A whole lot of thought was put into his character only to have him so easily offed. Sad really. What a waste.

Ted White is an AWESOME Jason. He's one I would have liked to have seen make more than one appearance.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Evildead13th on February 06, 2012, 09:07:50 PM
What can I really say about this movie? It was the first Friday flick I saw in it's entirety and it made me want to see them all at that point in the 80s. It's just beautifully shot, I can't really explain it. For instance, in the opening scenes at the Higgins Haven aftermath, I love how they hang on to that shot of the ranch in the dark for that few seconds after the helicopter flies away. It may sound stupid to some but I love it, it just has this morbid homage feel to it. Even when they show Pamela's grave, it has that same feeling too. I love how thats little graveyard is so randomly placed like that and I have a thing for old cemeteries too. It really is just little things like these that help the atmosphere of this movie. Also, a hot cast of actresses always helps! ;) :-* Yes, I'm guilty of trying to do Jimbo's dance too, somewhere out there a video clip exists of me doing this at my friends halloween party and I was dressed as The Crow so it makes it that much funnier. If I ever find a way to get that from VHS to dvd to computer then I'll post it! Lmfao! Seriously though, I have no flaws with this flick and it's really one of my passionate favorites of the series! :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on February 06, 2012, 09:24:45 PM
What can I really say about this movie? It was the first Friday flick I saw in it's entirety and it made me want to see them all at that point in the 80s. It's just beautifully shot, I can't really explain it. For instance, in the opening scenes at the Higgins Haven aftermath, I love how they hang on to that shot of the ranch in the dark for that few seconds after the helicopter flies away. It may sound stupid to some but I love it, it just has this morbid homage feel to it. Even when they show Pamela's grave, it has that same feeling too. I love how thats little graveyard is so randomly placed like that and I have a thing for old cemeteries too. It really is just little things like these that help the atmosphere of this movie. Also, a hot cast of actresses always helps! ;) :-* Yes, I'm guilty of trying to do Jimbo's dance too, somewhere out there a video clip exists of me doing this at my friends halloween party and I was dressed as The Crow so it makes it that much funnier. If I ever find a way to get that from VHS to dvd to computer then I'll post it! Lmfao! Seriously though, I have no flaws with this flick and it's really one of my passionate favorites of the series! :jason4:
This was the first Friday I saw too. It remains my favorite. I will passionately defend this film till my death. Evil, please don't be such a dead fuck. Everyone needs to see your Jimbo dance as soon as you can run that through your little computer. Goddamn, this film is gold! Oh hell, I think I should open a topic asking people to post their best Jimbo dance moves. :jason4: :jason4: :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Evildead13th on February 07, 2012, 10:09:59 AM
This was the first Friday I saw too. It remains my favorite. I will passionately defend this film till my death. Evil, please don't be such a dead fuck. Everyone needs to see your Jimbo dance as soon as you can run that through your little computer. Goddamn, this film is gold! Oh hell, I think I should open a topic asking people to post their best Jimbo dance moves. :jason4: :jason4: :jason4:

Lmfao!! I will certainly try not to be such a dead fuck Nikki! Guilty as charged! Glad to hear you share the love of the magic of The Final Chapter! I think a Jimbo dance thread is order! Lol! :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on February 08, 2012, 02:02:07 AM
Lmfao!! I will certainly try not to be such a dead fuck Nikki! Guilty as charged! Glad to hear you share the love of the magic of The Final Chapter! I think a Jimbo dance thread is order! Lol! :jason4:
Too bad every time I try to do my Jimbo dance I dang near dislocate something. Goddamn, Jimbo's got the moves.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jet on February 11, 2012, 07:33:21 PM
Too bad every time I try to do my Jimbo dance I dang near dislocate something. Goddamn, Jimbo's got the moves.

Well, he learned them at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance. From a guy who suspiciously looked like the son he would later have, lol.

On that note, did anyone else ever wonder why George McFly didn't get really suspicious of his wife when his son grew up to look EXACTLY like their old high school chum Calvin Klein?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on February 17, 2012, 01:14:16 PM
This was actually the 4th Friday I saw. I saw Jason Goes to Hell in theaters. Then I saw Jason Lives on TV. Then I rented Part 1. Then I rented this. After that I started to buy them. I can remember the very first time I ever saw this film. I rented it on VHS back in the day. Jason was portrayed as super bad guy, as I thought as a kid. I absolutely loved the character because of this film and the others I saw.

Friday Final Chapter was really all the best elements of the franchise up to that point mixed into one film. It would become the single film that inspired the remake the most I think. I loved the structure of the film. It began with the backstory at the campfire. Then Jason comes back to life. We get to know each character in this film suprisingly well.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on February 17, 2012, 01:24:26 PM
Well, he learned them at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance. From a guy who suspiciously looked like the son he would later have, lol.

On that note, did anyone else ever wonder why George McFly didn't get really suspicious of his wife when his son grew up to look EXACTLY like their old high school chum Calvin Klein?
Maybe George forgot about ol' Calvin. Calvin wasn't really around for very long. He's like the kid who moves there for like a month and then moves away, now what was his name again? Forgotten.

Just curious though is it incest if you're your own dad?

I need to learn some dance moves. No one dances better than Jimbo...no one


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: infamouszboy on April 14, 2012, 08:31:38 PM
Idk. the movie was the first one that i saw and ive seen it more than any other. so to me i think its the wackest out of all of them :-X


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on April 15, 2012, 06:15:13 PM
Idk. the movie was the first one that i saw and ive seen it more than any other. so to me i think its the wackest out of all of them :-X
How is that?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on April 16, 2012, 07:25:05 PM
It says...it says you're a dead fuck.  The computer don't lie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on April 17, 2012, 05:56:39 PM
My one main gripe with this film is the way they built up Rob's character only to let him die like a big wimp. I mean he's going on about how he's gonna get Jason and all that for killing his sister but when they have their confrontation he just yells over and over "He's Killing Me"..

I would have to agree with Maniac.  A lot of work was put into Rob's character only for him to be killed in a very lame way...I guess I would think that Rob would've been one of  the last characters standing...but instead a child kills Jason...just doesn't seem right. It seemed like the movie hinted that Tommy was to take over the reign of Jason instead he ends up crazier than a rat in a tin shithouse (& I'm not talking about the craphouse Demon pooped in when he ate them damn enchiladas)

"Tommy Jarvis is a sick boy" "What'd you do take his temperature?" lol Sorry love that quote.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on April 17, 2012, 06:13:26 PM


That, in my opinion, is what makes part 4 so effective- Jason is truly frightening.  Now mind you, he's killing people, so there is naturally an element of fear regardless of who plays Jason.  However, in Part 2 he's brought down temporarily by a kick in the nuts; in Part 3, he's temporarily immobilized by a knife in the leg- but by Part 4, not even splitting his hand down the middle stops him or even elicits a slight groan in pain.

His scenes chasing Trish, or when he breaks through the door and throws the hammer are very, VERY effective!

I would 100% agree with you!  Jason is frightening.  You can beat him in the head with a hammer, nada until he gets the hook.  He still continues the chase.  Even the deep breaths of exertion from the chase.  Part 2 kicked in the nuts really? ( you think it was all part of the growing pains of his youthful adolescence?) Even the big grunt when he is hung out the barn.  Part 7 makes him look like a pussy, a girl is kicking  his ass with her mind? And Freddy Vs Jason & part 8...really Jason is not terrified of water...he swims in it in part 4 (to get sam) & 6 (to get tommy) & part 7 ( to get Russel's party of 2)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: deadman909 on May 09, 2012, 12:38:00 PM
My absolute, hands down, favorite in the series.  Ted White is AMAZING.  He seems genuinely pissed when chasing Trish and Tommy.  It has the best group of characters, I mean Crispin freaking Glover is in it!!  Great deaths, great setting, great story, I just love it. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: voorhees55 on July 01, 2012, 09:46:20 PM
 :jason5: I always wondered how he survived getting copped up and everything.I know why hes awesome like that. :jason5:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Misscarlett on July 08, 2012, 10:59:15 AM

i loved this one to! i hated that jerk ted with his fake computer and loved when jimmy came downstairs with the underwear and said run this through your computer! funny!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 08, 2012, 02:17:40 PM
i loved this one to! i hated that jerk ted with his fake computer and loved when jimmy came downstairs with the underwear and said run this through your computer! funny!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Ted was a jerk.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on July 11, 2012, 07:48:29 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Ted was a jerk.

Wanna give ol' teddy bear a kiss?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 12, 2012, 09:28:11 AM
Wanna give ol' teddy bear a kiss?
No bleeping way.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: voorhees55 on July 15, 2012, 10:20:25 AM
 :jason3: i swear everytime he kills that hippie with the banana i get sick alot. :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 16, 2012, 05:47:23 PM
:jason3: i swear everytime he kills that hippie with the banana i get sick alot. :jason4:
So why watch?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 17, 2012, 09:56:51 AM
i love the banana scene... but thats topped by axels death scene.. i bet he was gonna rub one out to his pornagraphic work out video before JV cut him off pre maturely lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 17, 2012, 02:41:07 PM
i love the banana scene... but thats topped by axels death scene.. i bet he was gonna rub one out to his pornagraphic work out video before JV cut him off pre maturely lol
Depriving us of another banana scene.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 17, 2012, 03:43:35 PM
Depriving us of another banana scene.

lol.. yeah.. i could do without seeing axels bananna... but the excersise girls melons id like to see...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on July 20, 2012, 07:22:05 PM
lol.. yeah.. i could do without seeing axels bananna... but the excersise girls melons id like to see...
You and every other guy.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on July 21, 2012, 11:00:09 AM
i love the banana scene... but thats topped by axels death scene.. i bet he was gonna rub one out to his pornagraphic work out video before JV cut him off pre maturely lol
How can you think Axel would actually rub one out to that exercise program on the TV!? That program is CLEARLY meant for exercise! And Axel is just REALLY into physical fitness. He's a total fanatic! I think he was planning on working out with his girls on TV. That's why he's in such great shape. That and he doesn't skip meals.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on July 22, 2012, 12:17:08 PM
How can you think Axel would actually rub one out to that exercise program on the TV!? That program is CLEARLY meant for exercise!


umm.. it was a joke?  :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Robot5 on September 30, 2012, 09:17:03 PM
4 used to be one of my favorites, but over the years, I like it less and 1 and 2 more and more. Is this one aging badly for anyone else?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on October 03, 2012, 11:30:11 PM
4 used to be one of my favorites, but over the years, I like it less and 1 and 2 more and more. Is this one aging badly for anyone else?
I didn't like it to begin with, and haven't changed my opinion.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: MMAX on October 14, 2012, 08:13:29 AM
I didn't like it to begin with, and haven't changed my opinion.

Yep, definately not the best. Even Part 3 dosen't sit well with myself although it's not as bad as 4. IMO 1 & 2 are my favs.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on October 15, 2012, 05:57:29 PM
Yep, definately not the best. Even Part 3 dosen't sit well with myself although it's not as bad as 4. IMO 1 & 2 are my favs.
Part 3 is one of my favorites because it was the first one I saw.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on November 09, 2012, 01:38:48 AM
I have always thought the first one was always the best of the series. I enjoy 2-4 a lot too though. The rest are very fun films. Make no mistake though, when it comes to horror film making, the original is THE best.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on November 09, 2012, 08:17:38 PM
I have always thought the first one was always the best of the series. I enjoy 2-4 a lot too though. The rest are very fun films. Make no mistake though, when it comes to horror film making, the original is THE best.
Gotta start somewhere, man!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rory40 on November 14, 2012, 03:53:35 PM
Definitely the best film of the series.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Starman on November 14, 2012, 11:32:02 PM
Definitely the best film of the series.

yeah this one is best but not one of my favorite. so what your favorite scene?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on November 26, 2012, 01:32:52 AM
My favorite scene is at the end when his mask is whipped off, falls to e floor, and you see his face.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on November 27, 2012, 04:45:21 AM
My favorite scene is at the end when his mask is whipped off, falls to e floor, and you see his face.
Put him on the cover of GQ.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on November 28, 2012, 12:46:14 AM
Jason is a sexy beast.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on November 28, 2012, 05:10:41 PM
Jason is a sexy beast.
Tell that to Chris.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on November 29, 2012, 11:37:48 AM
My favorite scene is at the end when his mask is whipped off, falls to e floor, and you see his face.
Quite a cool scene !

You can see how the 'kids' are repulsed by JV's look - rightfully so ...

Jason's head sliding down the machete was also a wicked part too !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on December 01, 2012, 04:53:57 AM
Quite a cool scene !

You can see how the 'kids' are repulsed by JV's look - rightfully so ...

Jason's head sliding down the machete was also a wicked part too !
You'd be repulsed too, man!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 01, 2012, 03:23:18 PM
You'd be repulsed too, man!!!!
You're probably right about that !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on December 01, 2012, 05:50:44 PM
You're probably right about that !
Jason's not what you call a CQ cover model.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 02, 2012, 09:13:12 PM
I love this movie and I think it has the best cast and script. I miss movies like this and I also think it has the best commentary on any of the movies so far on dvd. I always look forward to watching this movie the most especially now that IFC has the rights.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on December 05, 2012, 05:42:54 AM
I really like the commentary on the Jason Goes to Hell DVD. They were having a great time telling the behind the scenes stories.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 05, 2012, 01:25:13 PM
Same here. I got Jason Goes To Hell for my birthday one year on dvd and its funny and awesome.

I do love Pt 4 best though since all the special features are amazing along with the movie. My favorite special feature is the fan commentary.

Btw why isn't Crispin Glover part of the special features at all? Does he not like to discuss the movie? I wouldve loved to have heard some stories from him.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on December 05, 2012, 06:17:35 PM
I really like the commentary on the Jason Goes to Hell DVD. They were having a great time telling the behind the scenes stories.
I just wish JTGH the movie was fun to watch.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 05, 2012, 07:17:05 PM
Adam Marcus wanted to do some stuff they told him no on I think. I think there was a bunch of stuff especially at the end that got cut for one reason or another.

I want to know some of the other ideas the director and his crew were discussing for the ending. Adam said on the His Name Was Jason bonus interviews I think that he and his friends were tossing other ideas around before they settled on the Freddy's glove ending.

One cool thing was when the director and one cast member of Pt 4 did the tour of the house for the dvd.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on December 26, 2012, 03:08:12 PM
Originally Jason's heart turned into creature thing was supposed to grow to full human size. There is rough footage on it. At the end Jason was originally going to be pulled down to hell by demons, not big hands. Adam also wanted to do a scene with Jason in hell. They didn't have the budget to do that.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 26, 2012, 07:01:06 PM
Wouldve loved to have seen Jason actually going to Hell. Theyve never done that with him actually getting there u know?



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on December 27, 2012, 12:43:13 PM
I remember Adam Marcus wanting to do a scene with Jason in Hell, but they said they did not have the money for Hell.  ;D I believe he says that in the commentary.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 27, 2012, 02:24:39 PM
The Hell scenes would've been interesting to see . I wonder if there was any rough footage or mockups shot ?
I believe they had story board photos in the CLM book .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 27, 2012, 06:44:16 PM
Couldve sworn they had some in the His Name Was Jason documentary too.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 27, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
I don't own that one yet , Austin . I haven't found it whenever i've been out shopping ...
Can't wait to see it though !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on December 28, 2012, 11:18:25 AM
I just wish JTGH the movie was fun to watch.

It had great gore, kills, tits, music, characters, and a creative story line. I liked it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 28, 2012, 12:45:12 PM
JGTH did have some cool moments , as Rich stated . It was different for sure , but that's what Adam Marcus was going for .

I know i sound redundant , but i prefer the human Jason as opposed to the later sequels .
It's like AC/DC in a way - They keep putting out the same record again and again (basically) because that's what the fans want . They stay the same and don't change the formula ....

I wish the Friday movies could've been done in this manner !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 29, 2012, 10:09:45 PM
I love AC/DC so I know what u mean. The Jason series is always awesome for me but Pt 4 clicked with me the most. Best story, characters and ending all wrapped up into one.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on December 29, 2012, 10:34:33 PM
Thanks , Austin !

We all have our favs for sure , and reasons why these movies stand out for us . Glad that pt4 is your top choice , it's certainly a great flick for the reasons you mentioned . One of my favs too .

I'd like to think that we're gonna be treated with some new Jason footage before too long .
My fingers are crossed !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on December 30, 2012, 03:28:08 PM
Let's hope you're right hesvor.  It's been FAR to long!!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 01, 2013, 07:40:46 PM
You can't keep the guy in the hockey mask down for long. He will return sooner than later I think and if proof is needed of that we will have it when Warner Bros releases them on blu ray. Those sales always make people wamt to see him more. Just hope they go buckwild with the promotion for them. I still remember the ad for the From Crystal Lake To Manhattan dvd set. I tried finding it online on YouTube but can't seem to find it. Anyone have a link?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 07, 2013, 03:39:14 PM
I remember seeing an ad on tv , but i don't have a link .
Youtube is a great resource for stuff like this !

Try alternate key words for your search . As opposed to the full title (for example) , try Voorhees box set , or Friday the 13th tv promo , etc. 

It has to be out there somewhere , even if the title is misleading . Good Luck !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 07, 2013, 08:57:42 PM
I remember seeing an ad on tv , but i don't have a link .
Youtube is a great resource for stuff like this !

Try alternate key words for your search . As opposed to the full title (for example) , try Voorhees box set , or Friday the 13th tv promo , etc. 

It has to be out there somewhere , even if the title is misleading . Good Luck !

I will ty for the suggestion. :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 07, 2013, 10:16:30 PM
You're welcome !
I just hope it helps .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 08, 2013, 08:40:48 PM
Looked before bed on YouTube but didn't find anything. Ill keep looking though but if u find something before me please let me know. Thanx! :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 08, 2013, 10:01:50 PM
Will do !
To be honest , i forgot about it today . Now i'm on a mission to help you ! We'll find it bro :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 08, 2013, 10:05:43 PM
Thanks man! I remember there was a shot of him running in front of the sheriff's car from Pt 2.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 08, 2013, 10:13:14 PM
I've learned a lot from other members on this site too . Not saying that i know anything that you don't , only that if i can try to help out - i will !

Peace .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 08, 2013, 10:17:15 PM
Its cool I know what u mean. Ty again. :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on January 15, 2013, 12:43:25 PM
You can't keep the guy in the hockey mask down for long. He will return sooner than later I think and if proof is needed of that we will have it when Warner Bros releases them on blu ray. Those sales always make people wamt to see him more. Just hope they go buckwild with the promotion for them. I still remember the ad for the From Crystal Lake To Manhattan dvd set. I tried finding it online on YouTube but can't seem to find it. Anyone have a link?

I remember the internet promotion for that set. They wrote, "Meet Jason before he met Freddie." I always laughed at how they spelled Freddy.  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 15, 2013, 01:15:02 PM
Its cool I know what u mean. Ty again. :)
No luck yet , but someone has to have a clip somewhere .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 17, 2013, 10:34:50 PM
That's cool. Ill keep trying and ty for helping and saying u would keep looking too. I know it'll show up somehow too amd guess patience is a virtue. Don't tell Jason though. Something tells me he doesn't like to wait too much unless a chain is holding him underwater lol!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: JDW89 on January 22, 2013, 01:39:47 AM
Just watched this one earlier. I think it keeps the creepy vibe from part 3, but in my opinion is not as good as 3, but I do enjoy it and would probably recommend it to a F13 newbie.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 22, 2013, 01:52:25 AM
Just watched this one earlier. I think it keeps the creepy vibe from part 3, but in my opinion is not as good as 3, but I do enjoy it and would probably recommend it to a F13 newbie.
That's a pretty fair assessment IMO . I really do like the 1st four movies the best though .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: JDW89 on January 22, 2013, 01:53:38 AM
That's a pretty fair assessment IMO . I really do like the 1st four movies the best though .

I would definitely agree.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 22, 2013, 02:01:21 AM
Here's on for ya ...
Do you find that pt 1 is almost a stand alone film ? Meaning that Jason is what sells F13th - no debate there , but he didn't really get going until pt 2 . The average layman doesn't even know the name Pamela Voorhees . Hell , most people don;t even know that Jason had a specific 'look' before the damned hockey mask !



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: JDW89 on January 22, 2013, 02:38:10 AM
Here's on for ya ...
Do you find that pt 1 is almost a stand alone film ? Meaning that Jason is what sells F13th - no debate there , but he didn't really get going until pt 2 . The average layman doesn't even know the name Pamela Voorhees . Hell , most people don;t even know that Jason had a specific 'look' before the damned hockey mask !


I would agree that it is almost a stand alone film. I think this is mainly due to the fact that Sean Cunningham had no plans for a sequel, but it was obviously open ended enough for Miner to come in and do one (and a fine one to boot!). The original F13th doesn't really get the credit it deserves by the mainstream in my opinion at least.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 22, 2013, 03:49:57 AM
I would agree that it is almost a stand alone film. I think this is mainly due to the fact that Sean Cunningham had no plans for a sequel, but it was obviously open ended enough for Miner to come in and do one (and a fine one to boot!). The original F13th doesn't really get the credit it deserves by the mainstream in my opinion at least.
100 % agree with your whole post !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: JDW89 on January 22, 2013, 03:52:51 AM
Not only that but the Jason from part 2 is criminally underrated in my opinion as well.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 27, 2013, 02:13:41 PM
I always felt that Pt 2 was the beginning of the most savage living Jason. He was bent on revenge and NOTHING was gonna stop him!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 27, 2013, 02:56:48 PM
Not only that but the Jason from part 2 is criminally underrated in my opinion as well.
This is very true !
Pt 2 had the best version of Jason IMO , and yet it gets overlooked quite often .
It's weird to know that some people don't know about pt 1 and 2 ! They think that the hockey mask version is the original .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 27, 2013, 03:27:26 PM
This is very true !
Pt 2 had the best version of Jason IMO , and yet it gets overlooked quite often .
It's weird to know that some people don't know about pt 1 and 2 ! They think that the hockey mask version is the original .

Most people don't like the sack over his head either when they found out he did wear it at one time. I've always been creeped out by it personally.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 27, 2013, 03:30:19 PM
Me too !
I always thought the sack looked creepy . It's how i always remember Jason being a terrifying menace in the woods . The imagery of that movie has stuck with me for over 30 years .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 27, 2013, 04:57:38 PM
The sack was really creepy for me too!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 27, 2013, 05:49:11 PM
It's funny to me that as much as i loved the 2009 movie , the variation of the sack look didn't really appeal to me that much !? I liked it a bit don't get me wrong , but i much prefer the look from pt 2 .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 27, 2013, 06:45:49 PM

Yeah, the sack (that doesn't quite sound right now does it) in that one was to overdone if you ask me. All they didn't was something like the original one. Well at least something that would look good on Mears. I'm sure they had different takes in the design stage which I would love to see.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on January 28, 2013, 03:18:20 PM
I liked the sack in the 2009 film. As a matter of fact, I really have a huge amount of respect for the fact that they went back to Friday Part 2 for influenced and even put the sack on his head to begin with. I think it worked well in the 2009 film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 28, 2013, 04:10:54 PM
It had to much a Mummy feel to it to me. When I say that I mean the texture of the mask looked like the wrappings from a Mummy. But I agree I'm glad they went back took pointers from the earlier films.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 29, 2013, 01:35:21 AM
It had to much a Mummy feel to it to me. When I say that I mean the texture of the mask looked like the wrappings from a Mummy. But I agree I'm glad they went back took pointers from the earlier films.
It was a good idea to shown JV pre-hockey mask . No debate needed .
I agree that the bag look resembled a mummy . Kudos for trying , but the potato sack looked better . IMO .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 31, 2013, 09:01:16 PM
Maybe its just me but I always felt it looked different in the remake because they wanted to make sure Derek didnt get burns on his face like poor Steve Dash did back when they did Pt. 2. They made the bag different so he would have more freedom and comfort I thought.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 31, 2013, 09:08:47 PM
Maybe its just me but I always felt it looked different in the remake because they wanted to make sure Derek didnt get burns on his face like poor Steve Dash did back when they did Pt. 2. They made the bag different so he would have more freedom and comfort I thought.
I never got that impression . When did Dash get burns on himself from pt 2 ?
The bag/sack/mask  in the remake was introduced as a motif to reference the original series , and then to set up the hockey mask (YUCK) .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 31, 2013, 10:19:45 PM

I don't think Dash suffered any burns but he almost lost a finger when Amy Steel swung that machete at him.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 31, 2013, 10:35:42 PM
I read that too , in CLM .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on January 31, 2013, 11:33:52 PM

Yeah, he went to hospital in costume. lol


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on February 02, 2013, 10:25:25 AM
I think on the His Name Was Jason documentary he said they had to put double sided tape on his face to keep the page from moving around too much. When he took the tape off it gave him burns. I do remember the story about him going to the hospital.  That was pretty funny when he went in costume lol!  :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 02, 2013, 01:17:57 PM
Can you imagine the look on the faces of those people at the hospital ?
That would be priceless !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on February 02, 2013, 10:56:20 PM
Lol that's one of my favorite stories of the Friday The 13th legacy. Steve always tells it so well too.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 14, 2013, 07:46:37 PM
Lol that's one of my favorite stories of the Friday The 13th legacy. Steve always tells it so well too.
It reminds me of the similar story that happened while filming Madman .
The actor's wife went into labor , and he rushed to the hospital in full Madman Marz costume ...

Priceless !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: FvJsucked79 on February 14, 2013, 08:41:50 PM
It reminds me of the similar story that happened while filming Madman .
The actor's wife went into labor , and he rushed to the hospital in full Madman Marz costume ...

Priceless !

LOL! Now that's a story to remember.  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on February 16, 2013, 07:26:07 PM
Sounds like a great story to me lol!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Joe Karlosi on February 17, 2013, 12:20:31 PM
I just revisited THE FINAL CHAPTER last night. Man, this is easily one of the BEST in the series; I put it at a tie with JASON LIVES for the two best-made films. Ted White is really intense as Jason; he may now be my favorite.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on February 17, 2013, 12:50:17 PM
Its definitely my favorite in the series Joe. I love them all but I think The Final Chapter is the most real to me if I can put it that way. The movies have never been real but its more real with the characters and setting.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Joe Karlosi on February 17, 2013, 12:55:29 PM
Its definitely my favorite in the series Joe. I love them all but I think The Final Chapter is the most real to me if I can put it that way. The movies have never been real but its more real with the characters and setting.

I agree, and I think that's part of it. It seems a little more 'slick' too, when you watch the first four back to back. I think Joe Zito really did an exceptional job in directing it. Plus, the young actors were more professional, it seems.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on February 17, 2013, 01:03:17 PM
Yeah it felt like they really searched for actors who had done more before and had more experience under their belts. I love them all but this one felt more alive.

I remember Joe Zito saying he wanted to get the best performances from each actor because the studio or someone said he didn't have to stress so much or something to that effect. I really think he believed the true critics are the fans and I agree on that one. No one remember what Siskel said really without looking on video for the review. However everyone remembers what their friends and close family think when it comes to movies like this.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: AnoesVSFt13th on February 19, 2013, 12:29:58 PM
I just revisited THE FINAL CHAPTER last night. Man, this is easily one of the BEST in the series; I put it at a tie with JASON LIVES for the two best-made films. Ted White is really intense as Jason; he may now be my favorite.

Ted White was the best Jason in my opinion. He's Derek Mears favorite as well.

I still get chills when I watch this. Jason busting through the door and throwing the hammer at Trish is my favorite scene. White was such a menace as Jason. He had a cowboy, hillbilly way of moving around. Some of his subtle movements like a head tilt, he made look very intense.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 19, 2013, 12:37:56 PM
Ted White was the best Jason in my opinion. He's Derek Mears favorite as well.

I still get chills when I watch this. Jason busting through the door and throwing the hammer at Trish is my favorite scene. White was such a menace as Jason. He had a cowboy, hillbilly way of moving around. Some of his subtle movements like a head tilt, he made look very intense.
Pt 4 and Ted White as fan favorites for a lot of people .
The movie had a lot of neat twists to it , and Ted played the JV character very well .

It's a fun movie .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on March 03, 2013, 07:44:51 PM
I did think the actors did a great job in Pt 5 but kinda wish Ted had gotten to play him again in 5. He did a fantastic job and really made the role his own.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 03, 2013, 08:16:51 PM
It's funny how Kane was the only guy to do the role more than once .
There's a couple that fans would like to have seen reprise their roles a second time .

Ted and C.J. are two favorites from the fan base . Dash would also be on my list , as well as those two .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on March 04, 2013, 10:22:16 AM
I get the feeling from interviews that Ari wouldve come back too if asked.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Marie on March 04, 2013, 10:28:23 AM
CJ for sure!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 04, 2013, 03:21:14 PM
I get the feeling from interviews that Ari wouldve come back too if asked.
I forgot about him !
That could've been neat to see .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on March 05, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
CJ would've been awesome to see back too.

I think so too Hesvor. Ari said he had fun so I can only imagine what he would've done had he returned.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on March 05, 2013, 03:02:09 PM
CJ would've been awesome to see back too.

I think so too Hesvor. Ari said he had fun so I can only imagine what he would've done had he returned.
He might've been too young/small to play the adult Jason in pt 2 , but that might have given Steve /miner a reason to include more of a 'prequel' type of movie . At least some scenes .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 01, 2013, 02:49:18 PM
Yeah flashback sequence or prequel stuff would've worked. When they do another one then I'd love to see Ari make an appearance maybe as someone like Crazy Ralph.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 01, 2013, 03:59:46 PM
Yeah flashback sequence or prequel stuff would've worked. When they do another one then I'd love to see Ari make an appearance maybe as someone like Crazy Ralph.
That's a good idea ! Ari does look a little 'twisted' these days .

There's a whole slew of past characters i'd like to see return ; Ginny , Ned  and Paul would be good , seeing as they were from the original pt 2 . Cameos from them in the remake pt 2 would be awesome IMO . Maybe then they could clear up the 'where's Paul' questions ! I'd love to see an older and wiser Ginny get to kick Jason's ass again ...

Mrs.V in some prequel shots would be neat , and having Tommy return would please a lot of the fans .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 01, 2013, 04:16:49 PM
I'd love to see Pamela return as played by Betsy Palmer. Give her the benefits she asked for with the original movie because she truly is a main reason y the movie succeeded.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 01, 2013, 06:37:31 PM
I'd love to see Pamela return as played by Betsy Palmer. Give her the benefits she asked for with the original movie because she truly is a main reason y the movie succeeded.
Absolutely !!!

Another thing i was thinking about ...
Mears is doing a cameo in Hatchet III and the fans are looking forward to seeing Kane slaughter him .

Kane returning to the next F13th as a victim of Jason would be one hell of a twist of fate !
I think the fans would eat it up , and ensure an extra healthy opening weekend !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 02, 2013, 09:24:45 PM
Absolutely !!!

Another thing i was thinking about ...
Mears is doing a cameo in Hatchet III and the fans are looking forward to seeing Kane slaughter him .

Kane returning to the next F13th as a victim of Jason would be one hell of a twist of fate !
I think the fans would eat it up , and ensure an extra healthy opening weekend !

I absolutely would eat it up!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: DUKE1 on April 02, 2013, 09:39:51 PM
Absolutely !!!

Another thing i was thinking about ...
Mears is doing a cameo in Hatchet III and the fans are looking forward to seeing Kane slaughter him .

Kane returning to the next F13th as a victim of Jason would be one hell of a twist of fate !
I think the fans would eat it up , and ensure an extra healthy opening weekend !
they would put some stupid 80's 1 liner in it like Kane saying" If i was you i would have done it better" Whatever would be vomit inducing but yet i am sure  would smile.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 02, 2013, 10:20:15 PM
they would put some stupid 80's 1 liner in it like Kane saying" If i was you i would have done it better" Whatever would be vomit inducing but yet i am sure  would smile.
A lot of these movies make fun of themselves though .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ramse on April 03, 2013, 07:23:09 AM
I'd love to see Pamela return as played by Betsy Palmer. Give her the benefits she asked for with the original movie because she truly is a main reason y the movie succeeded.
[/quoteI'am ABSOLUTELY with you in all that.  I love that movie. I love Mrs V. I love Betsy.

But she's 87 right?.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ramse on April 03, 2013, 07:25:05 AM
I'd love to see Pamela return as played by Betsy Palmer. Give her the benefits she asked for with the original movie because she truly is a main reason y the movie succeeded.
[/quoteI'am ABSOLUTELY with you in all that.  I love that movie. I love Mrs V. I love Betsy.

But she's 87 right?.

Seems i quoted my self!   :D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on April 03, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
Corey Feldman needs to come back and play Tommy one last time.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 03, 2013, 10:13:59 PM
Corey Feldman needs to come back and play Tommy one last time.
Bring Ginny back as a milf love interest !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ramse on April 04, 2013, 06:55:19 AM
In "His name was Jason"  both Adrienne, Amy and i think the was still one more of the survivors expressed their interests in doing a some sort of surviving-girls-come-together vs Jason.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 04, 2013, 01:35:50 PM
Alice is not a survivor. She died in Part 2. Ginny, Chris, and Trish can come back though. Tina can too.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ramse on April 04, 2013, 01:41:53 PM
But... then again,   what If Alice's death was just a dreamsequence?  ;)  And maybe Jasons attack through the window in pt2 as well.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 04, 2013, 04:54:10 PM
Alice is not a survivor. She died in Part 2. Ginny, Chris, and Trish can come back though. Tina can too.
It's a great premise and i'd like to see it happen !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ramse on April 05, 2013, 11:15:54 AM
Alright, you got me there. But i still want to see Alice in that group.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 05, 2013, 12:35:11 PM
Alice sits in the boat with the police on shore calling her name. Suddenly, a rotting corpse of a child jumps out of the lake and pulls her in...

...Alice wakes up screaming!

Alice opens the refrigerator door to see a decomposing head sitting right next to to the milk. Suddenly, she is grabbed from behind and feels the sensation of a razor sharp object burn its way through her temple...

...Alice wakes up screaming!

Freddy: "What's the matter hockey puck? Can't keep the bitches dead in their sleep? Haaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaa!"


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ramse on April 05, 2013, 01:59:51 PM
Exactly! Briliant!   Alice shall NOT die!  8)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 05, 2013, 05:25:58 PM
Exactly! Briliant!   Alice shall NOT die!  8)
I like Alice too .

For me though , it's 'better' that she died . The campfire scene in pt 2 seems creepier that way .
No body , blood was everywhere ... Did Alice fight off Jason and then leave town ?

Plausible but doubtful IMO .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ramse on April 05, 2013, 06:36:02 PM
I like Alice too .

For me though , it's 'better' that she died . The campfire scene in pt 2 seems creepier that way .
No body , blood was everywhere ... Did Alice fight off Jason and then leave town ?

Plausible but doubtful IMO .

Why not a dream within a dream.  She goes back to California out of reach of Jason.  I like the campfire scene too, lets say Paul and Ginny were sort of mixing facts with speculation and rumours.  I don't know... but it could work.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on April 05, 2013, 06:49:27 PM
Reaching pretty far ...
I guess it might work though .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 21, 2013, 10:50:20 PM
Adrienne did say she wanted it left open so there was the possibility for her to return after her personal life calmed down. I wouldn't mind if she came back. If I remember correctly she even said she thought it wasn't Jason who got her. She said it wasn't like he could just look her up in the phone book. Maybe that was Elias instead.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 22, 2013, 03:08:27 PM
She is wrong. Jason killed her character in the beginning of Part 2. There is no coming back for Alice.  8) Sorry folks.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 22, 2013, 04:51:33 PM
If he really did kill her maybe a dream sequence where she and Nancy tell a heroine how to defeat Freddy and Jason. I'm talking fanfic here btw.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 23, 2013, 12:32:46 PM
I had written a Freddy fan fic years ago where Nancy comes back to life but in dreams, as a dream spirit, like Freddy, only she is Freddy's opposition, and had this huge supernatural dream battle at the end. It was really fun.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nightmare4 on April 23, 2013, 09:08:32 PM
I am one of the few who liked Human Jason more...so this is second favorite of series to the Second one to me.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 23, 2013, 09:35:48 PM
There was a rumor that Nightmare 4 was supposed to be with a mysterious dream master as the heroine who would turn out to be Nancy at the end. Don't know how true that was but it would've put a nice cap on a trilogy of Nancy vs Freddy.

I do like human Jason too but I like Jason resurrected too. Just give me a good Jason story and I'm a happy (Crystal Lake) camper.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 23, 2013, 09:44:04 PM
I am one of the few who liked Human Jason more...so this is second favorite of series to the Second one to me.

I like all the versions of Jason.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 29, 2013, 12:13:50 AM
I like all the versions of Jason.

Same here. Jason gets better each movie for me. I do like Final Chapter best but its because of how good and fun it is. Jason could've been young Jason or undead Jason and I would've loved it no matter what.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: DUKE1 on April 30, 2013, 11:13:46 AM
I would not want to see Alice come back, Jason got her she's dead.  How do you dream sequence her in the shack?

For me 30 plus years she's been dead would hate for the cheap "last season was a dream" thing.

I am all for the Girls vs. story Ginny Chris Trish That could be real cool.  But for me they fought "human" Jason not sure how to go about them fighting "zombie" Jason. I guess forget about 6 down the line and start new. Make it newly fresh with original series intact0


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on April 30, 2013, 02:30:49 PM
They could fight the zombie Jason if they also had Tina.  :)

I agree, Alice is dead. She died in Part 2. Sorry fans, but she can not come back.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on April 30, 2013, 05:09:11 PM
Where was she in the shack?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on April 30, 2013, 06:59:41 PM
I dunno if they are saying she was part of the shrine by mommy's head.  Jason would've transferred the body a long way from Cali to new jersey.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on May 03, 2013, 03:59:59 PM
I dunno if they are saying she was part of the shrine by mommy's head.  Jason would've transferred the body a long way from Cali to new jersey.
I don't think Alice ever made it back to Cali.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on May 03, 2013, 04:01:49 PM
I'd like to see Trish and Tommy reunited to square off with Jason one more time!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on May 03, 2013, 06:23:21 PM
I'd like to see Trish and Tommy reunited to square off with Jason one more time!

I'll second that suggestion! Both gave him a run for his money and we never really found out what happened to Trish.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 09, 2013, 01:29:52 PM
I dunno if they are saying she was part of the shrine by mommy's head.  Jason would've transferred the body a long way from Cali to new jersey.

In the beginning of Friday 2, Alice was not in Cali, she was in Crystal Lake. Her mother called her and she told her mother, "I know you and dad worry, and I appreciate that...I just have to get my life back together and this is the only way I know how." It is apparent that she returned to Crystal Lake to face her fears and prove to her psyche that it is all over. Then Jason found her (presumably stalking her and following her home at some point) and killed her.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on May 09, 2013, 02:04:32 PM
I heard in the novelization for Pt 2 that u see her in town and someone is watching her.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on June 04, 2013, 02:02:16 PM
I'm sure Jason watches the town from inside the woods. When he saw the woman who murdered his mother, I'm sure he followed her home and then picked his night to strike.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 09, 2013, 08:06:37 PM
I'm sure Jason watches the town from inside the woods. When he saw the woman who murdered his mother, I'm sure he followed her home and then picked his night to strike.
Spot on !
I'm in total agreement . That's another fun angle that a prequel might explore . Or even a new sequel that has flashback scenes in it .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Pablo on June 11, 2013, 09:51:15 PM
i agree with every thing said but still why did he take his mothers head? that really wasnt needed to kill her.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 11, 2013, 11:42:22 PM
i agree with every thing said but still why did he take his mothers head? that really wasnt needed to kill her.
I'm not sure i understand your question ?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on June 12, 2013, 02:20:53 AM
i agree with every thing said but still why did he take his mothers head? that really wasnt needed to kill her.

He did that because Alice was the one who killed Mrs. Voorhees. He wanted his mother to actually WATCH him take vengeance on her death. That one was the one Mrs. Voorhees got a front row seat to so that she can watch Jason avenge her.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Pablo on June 12, 2013, 06:36:12 AM
He did that because Alice was the one who killed Mrs. Voorhees. He wanted his mother to actually WATCH him take vengeance on her death. That one was the one Mrs. Voorhees got a front row seat to so that she can watch Jason avenge her.

I like that answer!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 12, 2013, 01:04:23 PM
I like that answer!
Me too !

Rich has a great mind for stuff like this .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on June 12, 2013, 01:15:47 PM
Thanks guys. I'm watching The Final Chapter right now. I remember the very first time I ever saw this film. I rented the original Friday the 13th on VHS from Blockbuster years ago. Then the very next week, I rented The Final Chapter on VHS tape from them. I was a kid, and I had already seen Jason Goes to Hell and Jason Lives. I had the time of my life watching those two rentals though. After soon, I began to just collect them on VHS tape.  8)

I remember being suprised to see Jason running after the girl the way he was.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Pablo on June 26, 2013, 09:02:45 AM
There really are a lot of characters who would be pretty interesting to see make a come back. there are a few counselors from part 2 that we never see come back to the camp, l'd love to see what has become of Reggie the Reckless after his brother and grandfathers deaths, Tina's life after after losing her mother, and What has Ginny and Chris been up to and what would it be like for these characters to meet or re-meet Tommy


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: PhenomenalTLD on June 26, 2013, 09:47:46 AM
There really are a lot of characters who would be pretty interesting to see make a come back. there are a few counselors from part 2 that we never see come back to the camp, l'd love to see what has become of Reggie the Reckless after his brother and grandfathers deaths, Tina's life after after losing her mother, and What has Ginny and Chris been up to and what would it be like for these characters to meet or re-meet Tommy
Would be cool to see a bunch of little short films like that on the new Crystal Lake Memories DVD. I know it won't happen, but I can dream.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: 8Jsandwich on June 30, 2013, 09:50:00 PM
Ted from part two hooks up with the bartender chick catches crabs and gets her knocked up. The other counselor a get into a car accident. Wrecks Jeff's precious truck and die in scorching flames. Reggie the wreck less gets some platinum albums including a hit song ooh baby hey baby. He catches on fire on stage and turns white with plastic surgery. Tina begins to dress sexier, starts stripping and dies of a heroine overdose. Ginny begins teaching self protection classes. Chris gets sent to a looney bin similar to pinehurst where she falls in love with a crazy chick named Lola.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on June 30, 2013, 09:50:28 PM
I liked the short things we got on some of the movies when they were rereleased a few years ago. They were good but I don't know why chapter 3 was only on part 3 blu ray. I'd love to see a series of short films for the new blu rays. I'd be ecstatic if they used them to sell the proposed TV series that Sean S. Cunningham brings up from time to time.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on August 01, 2013, 01:55:05 PM
I don't think that TV series is ever going to see the light of day. I honestly don't know if that is such a bad thing though. Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street do not have the best track record for TV series.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on August 02, 2013, 01:03:43 AM
I agree Rich. I would love to see them do a new Friday The 13th show though, one more close to what the movies were. I really think if they started out strong then it could be good.

I could see it happening if the Scream tv series MTV is gonna do takes off like a rocket. Never say never esp with Jason and Camp Crystal Lake.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on September 11, 2013, 07:01:09 PM
This one is also my fav! I love Ted White as Jason especially the way he moves and the sheer brutality he portrays particularly when he's chasing Trish up the stairs. Love it!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on September 12, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
Oh yes, Richard Brooker is another great Jason. I love his creepy, but yet graceful, movements. I like how he takes nice, long strides when he walks. Richard Brooker is so creepy and stalkerish!
Well, nice to meet you, Elmazalman, and glad you have such great taste when it comes to favorite Jasons  :jason4: Hope to see you lurking around  :jason3:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Elmazalman on September 14, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
 Teds the best so is Richard.Ive always liked Ted Whites more agile swifter body movement,giving the impression of more violence in his attacks then there actually is,and the fast cut away editing helps a lot too.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ramse on September 15, 2013, 02:15:52 PM
It is my 3rd best :) Does anyone know what ''Ted'' was watching on that T.V?




3rd best?   I hear you there!   8)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 15, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
Esquire Network starts in just over a week. It's owned by NBC Universal which also owns Syfy. They've been airing a bunch of Friday The 13th and Nightmare flicks. Maybe they'll do the same over on there. I'd love to see The Final Chapter on that network. Nice way to christen it if u ask me.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on September 26, 2013, 02:28:10 PM
Ted plays just as a "pissed off, I have had enough" type character. Ted's was a very intimidating character, while showing a very nice character moment when he first sees Tommy with the shaved head.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on September 27, 2013, 07:10:14 PM
That's good way of looking at it .


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on September 28, 2013, 09:29:53 AM
I love how he pulls off that very distinct change in character when he sees Tommy with his head shaved.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on September 28, 2013, 02:18:13 PM
I love how he pulls off that very distinct change in character when he sees Tommy with his head shaved.
Me too  ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 04, 2013, 11:22:39 PM
Yeah I definitely noticed the change in character too. Wasn't sure though until I watched it again recently.

I'm hoping that we will get The Final Chapter on blu ray separately. It is my absolute favorite in the franchise and the one I would snatch up ASAP. Anyone else feel the same way?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Elmazalman on October 05, 2013, 02:09:26 AM
It's also my favourite too,can't wait for a separate bluray release,as I already have the first 3.I don't want to be forced to buy the others.Thank god they still have the outtakes.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 05, 2013, 11:17:11 PM
I wouldn't mind buying the others but I have wanted to get 4 on blu ray ever since the first 3 were released yrs ago. I thought for sure 4 was a sure thing. Kinda sad they didn't release that one ASAP seeing as how it's the most popular of the franchise I think.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Elmazalman on October 06, 2013, 04:54:00 AM
I heard they delayed the blu ray because the blu rays weren't selling that well.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 06, 2013, 01:32:02 PM
They did? If true that's kinda sad because from what I've heard that is THE Jason flick everyone would have paid to have on blu ray.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Elmazalman on October 06, 2013, 04:53:41 PM
Yeah,kinda strange they would drag their heels on that one.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 06, 2013, 07:42:46 PM
They did? If true that's kinda sad because from what I've heard that is THE Jason flick everyone would have paid to have on blu ray.
I'm sure it will come out eventually . Sorry that we have to wait though ...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Nikki6am on October 06, 2013, 07:58:36 PM
I'm sure it will come out eventually . Sorry that we have to wait though ...
As Tom Petty once said, "The waiting is the hardest part" I have learned about 85% of my life lessons from Tom Petty.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 06, 2013, 08:00:56 PM
Waiting sucks !



Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 11, 2013, 01:09:32 AM
I love that Tom Petty song though. I agree waiting isn't fun. I have a feeling this will be the movie that will be worth dropping money for. I hope we kinda get the two commentaries from the Deluxe Edition DVD that came out before and also I'd love to see a commentary with Corey, Lawrence Monoson, Judie Aronson and maybe others like Kimberly Beck. It would be really cool if Crispin Glover could be involved but I don't know if he would. Anyone else u folks would like to hear on a commentary? Maybe Barbara Howard and Camilla and Carey More?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Elmazalman on October 11, 2013, 02:12:54 AM
Audio commentary(commentaries)with the whole cast and SFX team would be nice as well as ALL the deleted tv scenes.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 15, 2013, 05:55:25 PM
I'd love that too. This is the film in the franchise that is the most beloved from what I've heard so I'd go and make it the best version ever on blu ray. All the bells and whistles u know?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Elmazalman on October 15, 2013, 10:55:46 PM
Why not?,there's more than enough room on a Blu-ray Disc.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on October 16, 2013, 07:11:37 PM
I'd love that too. This is the film in the franchise that is the most beloved from what I've heard so I'd go and make it the best version ever on blu ray. All the bells and whistles u know?
I hope you're right !
They should give this one a full and proper treatment . The fans want it , and let's be honest - the fans are the one who've paid their salaries for all these years ...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on October 17, 2013, 12:58:58 AM
I hope you're right !
They should give this one a full and proper treatment . The fans want it , and let's be honest - the fans are the one who've paid their salaries for all these years ...

I completely agree! The fans have been watching, waiting and hoping for yrs. I think it's past time for the definitive blu ray edition.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on October 19, 2013, 11:45:59 AM
As Tom Petty once said, "The waiting is the hardest part" I have learned about 85% of my life lessons from Tom Petty.


i couldnt agree with you more...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 12, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
2014 is the 30th anniversary of this movie. I'm hoping we will see it aired on a proper network like IFC since they air films without editing out stuff. They aired them all in December of 2012 so I'd imagine they still have some sort of rights to air them.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 12, 2014, 07:14:40 PM
30 years ? WOW !!!

Even more reason for them to air it in it's entirety , and more importantly - give fans the definitive Blu-Ray with all the trimmings ...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 12, 2014, 07:31:58 PM
Definitely second that Hesvor. Especially since fans seem to consider it in the same league as The Dark Knight for its greatness u know?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 13, 2014, 12:07:22 AM
I agree .
It's too bad that it's taken so long , but hopefully this year gives pt 4 the treatment it deserves !


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 14, 2014, 09:49:05 PM
I agree .
It's too bad that it's taken so long , but hopefully this year gives pt 4 the treatment it deserves !

Absolutely. Part 4 seems to be the biggest example of how this series gets better with age. One of my favorite things to do is sit back, pop the top on a beer and watch The Final Chapter. I try and do that during the summer, especially if it's on an actual Friday The 13th.

I think I've said that b4 about watching it while having a beer but it's totally worth doing it. If we could get an Extremely Special Deluxe Edition on blu ray that'd just make it all the sweeter. My favorite part is listening to the fan commentary on the Deluxe Edition dvd and I'd definitely bring that over to blu ray.

Matter of fact I think the fan commentary is one of the best things they shouldve done for all of them and I think there were plans to do that for 5-8 on dvd but never happened. That'd be the first thing I included for all of them if I could. Part 4 is the measuring stick all films in the series should look toward especially for the Deluxe Editions on dvd and blu ray.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on January 25, 2014, 09:10:11 PM
I do have a question regarding Part 4 and how it ended. So we saw the cliffhanger and that look in Tommy's eyes. I remember the writer said that he did that intentionally so they could follow Tommy back to his town or wherever they wanted to go with Tommy living. It was going to be about the good that is done in the name of evil and vice versa.

My question is if u had the chance to wait and bring Corey back would u have waited? Let's say u r in charge of Paramount and Corey is filming The Goonies. U can make A New Beginning and u r about to proceed with that plan. However, at the last moment, u ask the fans and they say they wouldn't mind waiting for Part 5 as long as Corey returns and u have the opportunity to bring back the director from The Final Chapter. Maybe even get the director to hammer out some sort of a script and keep in mind u have awhile to work on the script to make it as good as possible. Do u keep the movie in development and then start production once Corey Feldman and Joseph Zito r free?

I like Part 5 but I do like to spitball and think of what could have happened if Corey had been Tommy Jarvis the whole film and they'd done the movie Barney Cohen had originally hinted at. He sounded like he had some really great ideas. Plus, they could've always brought back Jason at the end of Part 5 or Part 6 somehow anyway u know?

I think the door was wide open and the film could've gone any which way possible and done even better. I am glad that they did Part 5 but I can't imagine there isn't a fan who doesn't say "I wonder what would've happened if Corey and that dream team from Final Chapter returned".


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on January 25, 2014, 09:50:23 PM
I have two theories , Austin ;

1 - The producers may have felt that Corey was too small/young to portray the next generation of a killer in a F13th movie ? Of course , that's only after pt 5 was greenlit . Pt 4 was supposed to be the end of the entire series .

2 - Corey had moved on to other movie and tv roles . He wasn't (at the time) considered a huge horror draw y'know ? It's only after these films have been passed down through the years , that his popularity has grown immensely .

Personally , I wanted to see him back . Just for the continuity and 'cool' factor .
His idea about coming back as an adult to face Jason almost seems like a no-brainer . The fans would love it !!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on February 09, 2014, 10:55:28 PM
Good theories Hesvor. I think u r right on both counts and I'd love to see Jason vs Jarvis as some people hAve nicknamed the project. I think even Corey Feldman himself has been calling it that. I like the title!

I was watching it last night and shocked at how fastpaced it was. Not a bad thing but for some reason it's always seemed like they took their time when the movie was made in pacing I mean. Now it seems really fast. Still love watching it though and I'm definitely hoping IFC will play it again throughout the yr. the movie is like a fine wine. It ages extremely well and it's good everytime.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on February 09, 2014, 11:10:41 PM
Thanks , bro !
I do like that title as well . Fans would love to see Corey return to face Mr. Voorhees .

Other silly candidates ;

Jason Takes Jarvis
Jarvis Takes Jason
Jarvis Lives
Fri-J the 13th     

LOL . Just kidding !!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: mnknut22 on May 12, 2014, 12:08:06 AM
Everything about this movie, makes it the best in the series. No explaination needed. A classic!!  :jason4:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 25, 2014, 01:08:31 PM
Everything about this movie, makes it the best in the series. No explaination needed. A classic!!  :jason4:

For anyone who has never seen any of the films, this is a good film to introduce them to the franchise with.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: mnknut22 on May 25, 2014, 08:14:25 PM
For anyone who has never seen any of the films, this is a good film to introduce them to the franchise with.

This and jason lives are great introductions.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 26, 2014, 12:34:18 AM
I think this is a better introduction film, because of the opening. With Jason Lives, you have to know a little of the background of the franchise to know what is going on and who Tommy is as a reoccurring character.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: mnknut22 on May 26, 2014, 04:10:09 PM
I think this is a better introduction film, because of the opening. With Jason Lives, you have to know a little of the background of the franchise to know what is going on and who Tommy is as a reoccurring character.


The final chapter intro gives you a quick glimpse of the past. Its edited perfectly. Then you jump right into the movie. My favorite scene will always be when the police, helicopters and ambulances are leaving and for a few seconds you see higgens haven in the dark empty, and quiet after knowing what had happened there. I thought was creepy.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 27, 2014, 12:06:52 PM
My favorite moment of the film was when Jason was chasing Trish. He chased her up the stairs. He stood there and stared at her for a moment. Then than dashes toward her, forcing her to jump out the window. He than watches the window until she moves again.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: mnknut22 on May 27, 2014, 03:44:51 PM
My favorite moment of the film was when Jason was chasing Trish. He chased her up the stairs. He stood there and stared at her for a moment. Then than dashes toward her, forcing her to jump out the window. He than watches the window until she moves again.


I love when people say jason doesn't run. I think hes scarier if he does (parts 2-4 he does). That scene is a good example.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Rich on May 31, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
People who claim that Jason does not run obviously refer to the Jason of Part 6 through FVJ. If that is their preferred version of the character, that is fine.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stebob1984 on June 01, 2014, 01:00:16 PM


I love when people say jason doesn't run. I think hes scarier if he does (parts 2-4 he does). That scene is a good example.

What makes me laugh is they say he doesn't run like if he does its wrong yet he ran from Parts 2-4 and which were well before the Terminator version of Jason.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on June 02, 2014, 09:18:02 AM
What makes me laugh is they say he doesn't run like if he does its wrong yet he ran from Parts 2-4 and which were well before the Terminator version of Jason.
^^^ This !

Jason ran in the early films . Y'know , the ones that cemented him as a horror icon . He's scarier that way IMO . It provides a more human element to his character . The hocus pocus of the 'Terminator/Frankenstein ' JV was good for a few laughs and some entertainment , yet wasn't even remotely SCARY  ::) Even in the reboot - Jason was brought back to his roots . He was violent , he was eerie and brutal . He was scary .... Oh yeah ; he runs too .

Jason runs   ;D


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: mnknut22 on June 02, 2014, 10:25:12 PM
^^^ This !

Jason ran in the early films . Y'know , the ones that cemented him as a horror icon . He's scarier that way IMO . It provides a more human element to his character . The hocus pocus of the 'Terminator/Frankenstein ' JV was good for a few laughs and some entertainment , yet wasn't even remotely SCARY  ::) Even in the reboot - Jason was brought back to his roots . He was violent , he was eerie and brutal . He was scary .... Oh yeah ; he runs too .

Jason runs   ;D

Exactly. Jason running brings the tension up might higher. I liked the terminator like jason, but it was more like your rooting for him cause its comical, whereas the first four, your on the edge when hes running.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 04, 2014, 01:34:53 AM
Is it just me or does it seem like this movie gets less airtime than the others?  Its a shame because its my favorite of the series and time hasnt hurt the movie at all from what ive seen. Hope that itll air as part of Fearfest this yr.

Btw the reason i always feel it airs less than the others is because this yr alone, ive seen parts 1-3 air locally here at least 4 times each. However 4 hasnt aired nearly as much. Sad because i always get a kick out of watching these movies but 4 rocks my socks the most!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stalk 'N' Slash on September 18, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
For me the greatest horror film ever made.

There are some great entries in F13, but Final Chapter is for me the best of all of them.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 23, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
For me the greatest horror film ever made.

There are some great entries in F13, but Final Chapter is for me the best of all of them.

Same here! I always make sure to watch it when i see its being shown. Part 4 is the movie that should be shown to people in film classes. Ive said that b4 but its true.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: ThePunisher on October 10, 2014, 09:41:54 PM
^^^ This !

Jason ran in the early films . Y'know , the ones that cemented him as a horror icon . He's scarier that way IMO . It provides a more human element to his character . The hocus pocus of the 'Terminator/Frankenstein ' JV was good for a few laughs and some entertainment , yet wasn't even remotely SCARY  ::) Even in the reboot - Jason was brought back to his roots . He was violent , he was eerie and brutal . He was scary .... Oh yeah ; he runs too .

Jason runs   ;D
So put him in a track meet.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: DUKE1 on October 17, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
Same here! I always make sure to watch it when i see its being shown. Part 4 is the movie that should be shown to people in film classes. Ive said that b4 but its true.
At least 12 years ago part 4 was showing in NYC  so I took a friend that never saw it and after bar hopping at Mcsorleys and temple of beer and places we headed to the theater on the way we ran into a guy headed as well he was a film teacher and was waiting for students to show up. He clearly had a few pops as well.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on November 02, 2014, 12:03:52 AM
At least 12 years ago part 4 was showing in NYC  so I took a friend that never saw it and after bar hopping at Mcsorleys and temple of beer and places we headed to the theater on the way we ran into a guy headed as well he was a film teacher and was waiting for students to show up. He clearly had a few pops as well.

Bows down to you in respect. I was kinda hoping we would see a theatrical rerelease this yr being the 30th anniversary and all. I would've loved if TFC and the original ANOES would've played as a double feature. I would go see if they did that and sat through both too!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jessica on December 11, 2014, 08:38:18 PM
I love when people say jason doesn't run. I think hes scarier if he does (parts 2-4 he does).

Even Kane Hodder said that. What he should have said is, "MY Jason doesn't run."

Jason running brings the tension up might higher.

It's kind of like the scene from Texas Chainsaw Massacre when Leatherface is running RIGHT BEHIND her and you move to the edge of your seat.

Is it just me or does it seem like this movie gets less airtime than the others?

Probably because it has a lot more material in it that needs to be edited out on TV. Nudity and gore usually get cut. If you remove those things from Part 4, you're left with less running time than with the others in the series. Because Part 4 reduced Friday The 13th to its bare bones. That's why it's not my personal favorite. I like things about it, of course. Jason, Corey, Crispin, Etc. but it's not in my top 5 of these movies.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: DUKE1 on December 11, 2014, 10:58:54 PM
First time I new part 4 had cut scenes was from a tv showing. I WAS watching and was like what the fuck is this, I spent the next year going through the tv guide every day looking for it to show again I bought a year subscription.  Know the scenes our on the deluxe dvd, the dialog stuff was added to the TV cut I saw that fateful night.

So part 4 can be edit gore and add time.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jessica on December 12, 2014, 05:02:12 PM
So part 4 can be edit gore and add time.

That's true. But those scenes added are not particularly interesting unless you're a fan already. We tend to get excited about anything new. Whereas the average viewer would think, "It's a conversation between ambulance drivers. Why are you getting so excited?" lol.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 13, 2014, 12:51:01 AM
That's pretty cool they have extra stuff to put in to make up for the footage that has to be cut out.

Thank you Jessica that actually does make a lot of sense. I never thought about that before but u have a good point. More stuff to be excised and trimmed means more work so they may not want to take time to do all that stuff. Sad but makes sense ty again.

That's another reason these movies should air on a network like IFC. They don't cut ANYTHING so it'd make more sense for it to be on there u know what I mean?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jessica on December 13, 2014, 01:38:50 AM
That's another reason these movies should air on a network like IFC. They don't cut ANYTHING

Right. Or Turner Classic Movies (TCM) if they still do that "TCM Underground" thing.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 13, 2014, 10:25:32 AM
Absolutely! Id love if they did that. :)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stebob1984 on August 24, 2015, 05:53:21 PM
If you take the slasher icons movies it's usually the first one that's the best i.e. Halloween, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Childs Play, etc yet with Friday the 13th it's the Final Chapter. Not many film series  (even in horror) can you say the fourth one is the best. The thing about TFC though is it is the most quality of the series, the best acted, the best written etc. As someone pointed out aswell you usually have to watch the first film to get a feel for the story etc but because of opening if this one you can just slot tight in. TFC shows how to make a damn near perfect horror sequel.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Blane on August 24, 2015, 10:35:12 PM
it is the most quality of the series,  

In some ways, yeah. In other ways, no. I agree with whoever said the editing was clunky at times. Or maybe it's more fair to say the coverage wasn't great. It really stands out in that scene where Corey is trying to get the car started. I think it is supposed to startle us when Rob appears but the shots just aren't there. That happens a few times, in my opinion, where I feel the angles were either poorly chosen or poorly edited together.

But the gore effects were WAY BETTER in this movie.

the best acted

Crispin Glover and Maybe Corey Feldman make that a pretty fair statement. Though I always thought the acting in the original movie was more naturalistic.

the best written etc.

That depends on which aspects of writing you're talking about. For instance, I think a good case could be made that "Jason Lives" had the best dialog. Or at least the most stylized.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on August 28, 2015, 01:28:32 AM
I'm really hoping that we will see this one during October because I've said it before and I'll say it again. This movie IS the sequel that everyone should watch to know what to do right. It's just one of those movies I like to kick back, have a beer, eat some chips and just have an absolute blast!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stebob1984 on August 30, 2015, 08:33:14 AM
Agreed, they want ideas for the new movie use the structure of this one. Take note of the characters, they were easily the best written of the franchise and that's why the film worked so well. I think this and Part II are the ones they should be looking at.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on September 02, 2015, 02:42:24 AM
Absolutely Stebob. I remember when they said for Part 7 they were gonna knock Part 4 off its foundation or try to copy it or something. Whomever makes the new movie should be a filmmaker who loves these movies and takes a few days to watch them all in succession and takes note of what they should do. Especially 4. I would even go to people like Ted White, the director, writer and cast and crew and pick their brains as to what they did. let them be consultants on the film so u can get the best film possible.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Stebob1984 on September 04, 2015, 05:09:06 PM
Absolutely Stebob. I remember when they said for Part 7 they were gonna knock Part 4 off its foundation or try to copy it or something. Whomever makes the new movie should be a filmmaker who loves these movies and takes a few days to watch them all in succession and takes note of what they should do. Especially 4. I would even go to people like Ted White, the director, writer and cast and crew and pick their brains as to what they did. let them be consultants on the film so u can get the best film possible.

Definitely, the problem is the studios don't care as much about a quality product as they do at getting a movie out quickly that will make instant dollars.

I really hope that the next one takes its queues from the best of the series.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: mhtdtr on October 09, 2015, 01:15:00 PM
One of the best films of the franchise in my opinion. Serves at a beautiful ending for the first four films and the era of mortal Jason. Even i don't like much several characters in the film (they seem pretty stupid going where not supposed to go), in general the structure of the movie, the pace, the music, the killings (several great ones), Ted White as Jason... so many good things are in this movie.

I like the fact that continues the storyline that begins with part II and finish with the dead of Jason. I like to see Jason a lot because his presence is incredible in this film, you can feel the terror when he approached his victims.

It is a shame that most of the killing scenes were cut because some of them add so much terror and gore to the film. After watch this film several times i was tired of the name Gordon. The freaking dog's name is in Tommy's mouth and Tommy's mom mouth so much. When she was killed she called the dog a dozen times at least.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on November 02, 2015, 04:53:35 PM
Just noticed this. When Jimmy and Tina r in the bedroom and the bed breaks? Theyre laughing and it sounds like Jimmy says "Oh no not again!" I just noticed that has anyone else?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: hesvor on November 02, 2015, 07:56:23 PM
Just noticed this. When Jimmy and Tina r in the bedroom and the bed breaks? Theyre laughing and it sounds like Jimmy says "Oh no not again!" I just noticed that has anyone else?
I haven't, bro.
I'll have to go back and watch it again!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ramse on November 03, 2015, 04:40:21 PM
I haven't, bro.
I'll have to go back and watch it again!


Same here!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on November 12, 2015, 07:14:49 PM
Yeah i could swear that's what he said.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on December 01, 2015, 02:51:30 PM
Yeah i rewatched Part IV when i dvrd it off Sundance this past Wednesday. Jimmy says either "oh no not again" or "oh not again" lol.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on March 01, 2016, 06:48:48 PM
I was watching commercials for this movie and the others. I have a question. You know how at the end of the ads, the announcer used to say stuff like "Now playing at amc 15, Century 16, etc"? Do they still do that? It not why did they stop? I thought it was really cool and made me proud when i would hear it was playing at a theatre locally that i frequented. Was it just too much effort?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Gash on March 02, 2016, 01:45:57 AM
Chains mainly now and everything is super corporate or online.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on March 02, 2016, 11:16:13 AM
Ah ok ty. Was wondering. I liked when they did that stuff. By saying exactly what theatre i felt like it gave me a sense of pride since it said exactly which theatres i went to u know?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jameslofton on April 12, 2016, 09:29:19 AM
Gash is right. Corporations have ruined this sort of thing. Years ago if going to a concert it would be an arena with a unique name. Now its shit like Taco Bell arena, Levi Stadium,etc.

In the 21st century everything must be bland, sterile, look the same, and have a corporate sponsor. Everything is a shell compared to what it used to be. I went to the mall a few years ago and got a bit emotional by how it had been ruined. Blew me away how what used to be a hangout for teens at night/on weekends had been turned into such a stale environment.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Blane on April 14, 2016, 01:01:19 AM
I get what you're saying but I don't blame people for doing it. I mean, if you build an arena for millions of dollars, it's very easy to say to yourself, "I could make back a huge chunk of my investment if I sold the naming rights." And of course corporations are happy to slap their brand on something so they pony up.

As far as theaters, I dunno about that. I think there's WAY too many theaters near me for the commercials to name them all. Movies sometimes open on 2,000-3,000 screens nationwide! That'd be a big effort to make ads that name them.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on May 04, 2016, 03:30:32 AM
Yeah there r a lot of theatres around but I wou,d like to see them do that thing again. They wouldn't have to do all of them but they could say a few and then say and everywhere check local listings or something like that u know?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ookla on May 16, 2016, 12:36:19 AM
First I want to say that I enjoy all of the movies in the Friday The 13th franchise. Even the bad ones are fun to watch in a "so-bad-they're-good" kind of way. The best movies in the series are certainly the first four, IMO. Although I must admit, out of the first four, I think TFC is my least favorite. While it probably had the best Jason of the bunch, and some visually stunning visual effects (thank you Tom Savini), it was the least suspenseful of the four. Parts one through three did a much better job of building suspense than any of the movies that came after. Some of you might disagree, but I feel that a slasher flick that has cool death scenes without any suspense is like a porno movie with lots of money shots but no sex.

Oh, and I have a message for Kat, assuming she's the moderator here. I tried emailing her directly, but the site's direct contact function seems to be having problems. Anyway, in the "Final Chapter" section under "Continuity Errors" you wrote that in Part 2 Paul said that Crystal Lake was bear country, but when Rob told Trish that he was hunting bear Tommy said that there were no bears in the area. This isn't quite true.

Tommy DIDN'T say that there were NO bears in the area. What he said was that Rob COULDN'T be hunting for bear. A quick search on Google, I managed to find out that bear season in the state of New Jersey is in December. Since the Friday The 13th movies are supposed to take place in the summer time, that makes bears out of season and thus illegal to hunt. It's also possible that in 1983 over hunting may have reduced New Jersey's bear population to dangerously low levels, putting them on the state's Endangered Species List and therefore making hunting bear at any time of year illegal (that might require a little more research on the internet though). Just thought that I would point that out.




Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Blane on May 26, 2016, 02:28:45 AM
TFC has the 2nd best gore behind JGTH.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on June 03, 2016, 02:51:13 AM
First I want to say that I enjoy all of the movies in the Friday The 13th franchise. Even the bad ones are fun to watch in a "so-bad-they're-good" kind of way. The best movies in the series are certainly the first four, IMO. Although I must admit, out of the first four, I think TFC is my least favorite. While it probably had the best Jason of the bunch, and some visually stunning visual effects (thank you Tom Savini), it was the least suspenseful of the four. Parts one through three did a much better job of building suspense than any of the movies that came after. Some of you might disagree, but I feel that a slasher flick that has cool death scenes without any suspense is like a porno movie with lots of money shots but no sex.

Oh, and I have a message for Kat, assuming she's the moderator here. I tried emailing her directly, but the site's direct contact function seems to be having problems. Anyway, in the "Final Chapter" section under "Continuity Errors" you wrote that in Part 2 Paul said that Crystal Lake was bear country, but when Rob told Trish that he was hunting bear Tommy said that there were no bears in the area. This isn't quite true.

Tommy DIDN'T say that there were NO bears in the area. What he said was that Rob COULDN'T be hunting for bear. A quick search on Google, I managed to find out that bear season in the state of New Jersey is in December. Since the Friday The 13th movies are supposed to take place in the summer time, that makes bears out of season and thus illegal to hunt. It's also possible that in 1983 over hunting may have reduced New Jersey's bear population to dangerously low levels, putting them on the state's Endangered Species List and therefore making hunting bear at any time of year illegal (that might require a little more research on the internet though). Just thought that I would point that out.




No worries and I don't mind u said that. The good thing about these movies is that even with Part IV being the favorite for a lot of people, everyone has their favorites and different reasons for why u know?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ookla on November 13, 2016, 03:43:24 PM
It is my 3rd best :) Does anyone know what ''Ted'' was watching on that T.V?

They were old stag films from the 1920's (really old porn from the silent film era). At the time showing naked women on film was about as shocking as you could get. They didn't start showing people fucking in porn until much later (1940's I think), and even then it was tame by today's standards. If you were to travel back in time with a video projector, a dvd player with surround sound & speakers, and a Kelly Wells gangbang video, and show it to people in the underground theatres where men went to see stag films, the audience's heads would probably explode.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Ookla on November 13, 2016, 04:06:53 PM


That, in my opinion, is what makes part 4 so effective- Jason is truly frightening.  Now mind you, he's killing people, so there is naturally an element of fear regardless of who plays Jason.  However, in Part 2 he's brought down temporarily by a kick in the nuts; in Part 3, he's temporarily immobilized by a knife in the leg- but by Part 4, not even splitting his hand down the middle stops him or even elicits a slight groan in pain.

His scenes chasing Trish, or when he breaks through the door and throws the hammer are very, VERY effective!

TBH, them elevating Jason to practically superhuman levels kind of took me out of the movie. Things like Jason being knocked out by a shovel to the head or immobilized by a kick to the nuts helped make him more frightening, because he was "just a guy in a mask", which means he's the type of person you might have the misfortune of meeting in the dark woods. Once he becomes superhuman or supernatural, that level of suspension of disbelief is lost on me, making the movie less frightening.

In addition, there is a lack of building suspense in Part 4 which was present in the three previous films. This makes the kills less effective for me. Don't get me wrong, the kills in this movie were AWESOME. But without the building of suspense they're less effective. It's like the punchline of a joke. Without the set up, the punchline isn't all that funny. Tell someone "A guy came up to me in the street and told me that he hadn't had a bite in four days. So I bit him." you'll likely get a laugh, or at least a chuckle. But if you go up to someone and just say "So I bit him." they'll likely just look at you. While Part 4 wasn't nearly as bad as the later installments with the lack of suspense (Part 5 was horrible for this) this was the movie that started the "Bigger Body Count = Better Movie" formula that the studios started using for the later sequels.

Again, don't get me wrong, I LOVE the hell out of this movie, but it's not my favorite in the franchise. It's better than most of the sequels that follow it, but it's not better than the three that came before it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jasn88cubs on November 13, 2016, 09:18:35 PM
TBH, them elevating Jason to practically superhuman levels kind of took me out of the movie. Things like Jason being knocked out by a shovel to the head or immobilized by a kick to the nuts helped make him more frightening, because he was "just a guy in a mask", which means he's the type of person you might have the misfortune of meeting in the dark woods. Once he becomes superhuman or supernatural, that level of suspension of disbelief is lost on me, making the movie less frightening.

In addition, there is a lack of building suspense in Part 4 which was present in the three previous films. This makes the kills less effective for me. Don't get me wrong, the kills in this movie were AWESOME. But without the building of suspense they're less effective. It's like the punchline of a joke. Without the set up, the punchline isn't all that funny. Tell someone "A guy came up to me in the street and told me that he hadn't had a bite in four days. So I bit him." you'll likely get a laugh, or at least a chuckle. But if you go up to someone and just say "So I bit him." they'll likely just look at you. While Part 4 wasn't nearly as bad as the later installments with the lack of suspense (Part 5 was horrible for this) this was the movie that started the "Bigger Body Count = Better Movie" formula that the studios started using for the later sequels.

Again, don't get me wrong, I LOVE the hell out of this movie, but it's not my favorite in the franchise. It's better than most of the sequels that follow it, but it's not better than the three that came before it.

you nailed it


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jessica on January 05, 2017, 07:41:37 PM
Quote
the kills in this movie were AWESOME. But without the building of suspense they're less effective.

I agree with that. The overall tone was dark, though, so it may not be suspenseful or "edge of your seat" but it is creepy. I never agreed that Part 4 was the best, as so many people think, but I think it's at least better than the movies New Line made.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jasn88cubs on January 06, 2017, 06:59:18 PM
I agree with that. The overall tone was dark, though, so it may not be suspenseful or "edge of your seat" but it is creepy. I never agreed that Part 4 was the best, as so many people think, but I think it's at least better than the movies New Line made.

it's creepy but 1 and 2 were sio suspensful


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Tiny Sparrow on January 16, 2017, 07:42:49 PM

Part 4 had very dark and gloomy atmosphere. In one scene, Jason is walking from one house to the other from top view in slow motion. The scene where he is looking at Trish before she leaps out the window. Sam all alone in the raft in the dark. The scene where Rob is in the basement. Ted watching the nude film in the dark. Scenes like this.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jasn88cubs on January 16, 2017, 08:57:48 PM
I felt the kills should have been a little bit more spread out


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Tiny Sparrow on January 17, 2017, 07:30:17 PM

Do you mean in distance or timespan?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Austin 3:16 on February 05, 2017, 12:46:02 AM
I like how the camera stayed on certain shots longer. Like when Jason is brought into the morgue the camera focuses on him for a few moments while we the audience are kind of telling him to get up! Made me feel like the fans were part of the movie somehow you know?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jasn88cubs on February 05, 2017, 03:08:07 PM
Do you mean in distance or timespan?

timespan


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: Jameslofton on February 19, 2017, 02:49:22 AM
I'm sure its been said multiple times in a 40+ page thread but the main thing IV had going for it was its cast. The best cast in the franchise and anything else is a distant second.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: jimmyd on February 19, 2017, 11:06:22 AM
cast was mos def a plus on this one... ted whites approach also helped beef it up...even with the huge plot holes and unanswered  questions... this one has alot of gems in it that help it stand out in the series


Title: Re: Friday the 13th part 4 discussion
Post by: fogandmist on October 20, 2017, 05:02:31 AM
Re-watched.
A fresh review.
Gonna say this up front, 4 I think was one of the last films in the series that I ever saw and previously it kinda fell flat to me, not bad but simply more of the same while most people claim it is a top 3 contender for best film of the series.
This viewing (3rd or 4th viewing ever I think, first in at least 3 years)... I enjoyed it a lot more.

Pros...
- This film makes alot better use of Shadow & lighting then 3 did.
- Trish (kimberly beck) is a great final girl, effectively surpassing Chris from 3 in my book this viewing. Her charging back into the basement with Machete in hand to desperately try & save Rob at the last minute was awesome. Love her blue outfit.
- General cast isn't quite as likable as 2 or 3 but still friendly enough, at first they seem extremely interchangeable & generic but slowly several of them solidify their identifies.

Cons/Nitpicks...
- Score is fine, but not nearly as good as 3's was.
- Jason despite being hidden in shadow for alot more of this film doesn't look quite as menacing as he did in 3. The mask & how it fits on his face doesn't look as good IMO.
- Tommy attempt to distract Jason is... bizarre & nonsensical, he is basically trying to do what Ginny did at the end of 2, except Ginny was imitating Jason's mother who he clearly worshiped what with her severed head at a alter. But Tommy is trying to imitate Jason himself as a child??? Saying "remember me?" that would certainly confuse Jason with him always having been mentally handicapped but still. I think the scene would have made more sense if Tommy had instead tried to pretend being a child "like" Jason and attempt to convince him that they were born the same or something.